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[Atheck]

Caption at the end of this chapter implies were gonna see quite a bit of Madara next week

 

That would be so wonderfully ironic since Gaara has been trying to get Naruto to safety for the past three chapters. Madara arrives minutes before them and proceeds to utterly dominate Minato and Kakashi in that time; seizing his other Rinnegan eye with Yin Kurama in tow and Minato lying face-first in the dirt beneath his shakujo. Gaara and Sakura arrive soon afterwards into the waiting arms of Madara and Black Zetsu. 

Edited by Atheck, 06 February 2014 - 08:43 AM.

[Transformers03]

 

“Their first kiss is a mouth to mouth w”

 

“It can’t be! This is NaruSaku’s great victory!

No it’s true?! I’m soo happy!”

 

“And then the father in law will see Sakura taking care of Naruto. “

 

“Artificial respiration is like a kiss after all, so don’t you think NaruSaku won because this doesn’t happen to NaruHina????”

 

As you can see, they consider it as a victory for NaruSaku. But you have to know that since chapter 631, NaruSaku is already canon for a lot of NS fans in Japan. You should have seen that, there were a lot of "NaruSaku is official! Yatta" and the difference with us is that they were not hardcore anti-NS that were denyinf the whole scene. 

 

Can I see the sites in which you got this information?

[That Uchiha]

Just curious, are you guys worried about the possibility of Sakura's death? I thought she was likely to die for awhile now and recently all the big YouTube reviewers (Sawyer, KOL, etc) are seeing death flags. There's always the chance she could sacrifice herself or be killed by Madara. Apparently Kishimoto said there would be 2 major deaths among the Konoha nins... 

 

I hope not though, I can't handle anymore of my favorite characters dying.   

 

​Although I was upset earlier I can finally say this chapter was truly amazing! It even brought me back to this site. 

Madara's transformation was fantastic, I have no idea how the alliance can defeat him now.

Sakura and Karin blew me away! Kishimoto really outdid himself here although there's some plot issues with Karin I don't care she's still a BAMF!

That was the most intense and extreme CPR I've ever seen like dang you go Sakura.   

And I just want someone to save Sasuke already!  Karin, Sakura, Kabuto???? Anybody? 

[咲耶姫]

 

Can I see the sites in which you got this information?

 

http://2ch.ebookr.jp...omic/1364402555

[Transformers03]

 

http://2ch.ebookr.jp...omic/1364402555

 

Thank you.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Honestly, I feel like the Sakura death ship has sailed. The most appropriate time for that was when Naruto was up against Obito and ended up using Sakura as a plot device to help "redeem" Obito. However, that obviously didn't happen and the heavy potential faded pretty fast IMO.

 

Even if Sakura does die (I literally cannot think of a good reason for her to, but I'll roll with it), it will definitely be a temporary death. Too much emphasis is done centering her involvement with Team 7 and resolutions with her relationships with Naruto and Sasuke. Not only that, but the multiple Sakura/Kushina parallels about the hero having a woman standing by their side and supporting their dream are too powerful and practically give her a plot-shield from being gone forever.

 

There's probably going to be some angsty and dramatic moments ahead, but definitely not as big as Sakura dying. I feel like we're probably going to get that with Naruto, but he has a plot-shield too so why should I be worried?

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 06 February 2014 - 07:32 AM.

[narusakurama]

Just curious, are you guys worried about the possibility of Sakura's death? I thought she was likely to die for awhile now and recently all the big YouTube reviewers (Sawyer, KOL, etc) are seeing death flags. There's always the chance she could sacrifice herself or be killed by Madara. Apparently Kishimoto said there would be 2 major deaths among the Konoha nins... 

 

 

When did he say the bolded ? Tsunade or Kakashi would also count as major deaths . If any more major deaths are to happen ,imo Kakashi is most likely the one to sacrifice himself for the next generation .

 

I doubt the major reviewers say Sakura will die because they see any death flags ... that 's just their biased wishful thinking .

[Darth Krypt]

Just curious, are you guys worried about the possibility of Sakura's death? I thought she was likely to die for awhile now and recently all the big YouTube reviewers (Sawyer, KOL, etc) are seeing death flags. There's always the chance she could sacrifice herself or be killed by Madara. Apparently Kishimoto said there would be 2 major deaths among the Konoha nins... 

 

I hope not though, I can't handle anymore of my favorite characters dying.   

 

Sawyer had a point about Gaara being there. The person who also had his bijuu extracted and died but got revived by Chiyo. And Sakura was there to see it happen so its possible. Sakura would definitely sacrifice herself if it meant Naruto would live. We will at least see her intending to do it but if it actually happens, I don't know and I certainly hope not.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sakura being there is not all clear yet but man, so far, it's definitely a strong determination and more display of relationship importance. Since Sakura starts thinking of his dream again, things are getting more personal. That said still got to wait and see. Same goes to Team Taka. If the mystery person ends up not Taka, only to help Sasuke, what is going to be the purpose for Taka, outside the potential further development for Karin, due to unleashing more Uzumaki aspect. So much to wait for. I love it.

[redragon88]

Just curious, are you guys worried about the possibility of Sakura's death? I thought she was likely to die for awhile now and recently all the big YouTube reviewers (Sawyer, KOL, etc) are seeing death flags. There's always the chance she could sacrifice herself or be killed by Madara. Apparently Kishimoto said there would be 2 major deaths among the Konoha nins...

 

Since when does being a youtube reviewer makes you a certified expert in story analysis?

 

They are just normal people like you and me, and they can make extremely wrong predictions that go completely against what happens later.

 

Did you know that Sawyer predicted some time before Tobi's reveal that his true identity was Sasuke from the future? lol

 

Did you know that KoL predicted that during 2013 we would see progression in the relationship between Naruto and Hinata? double lol

 

Don't put those guys on a pedestal. Their opinion is not superior to that of any other Naruto fan.

Edited by redragon88, 06 February 2014 - 08:34 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

Since when does being a youtube reviewer makes you a certified expert in story analysis?

 

They are just normal people like you and me, and they can make extremely wrong predictions that go completely against what happens later.

 

Did you know that Sawyer predicted some time before Tobi's reveal that his true identity was Sasuke from the future? lol

 

Did you know that KoL predicted that during 2013 we would see progression in the relationship between Naruto and Hinata? double lol

 

Don't put those guys on a pedestal. Their opinion is not superior to that of any other Naruto fan.

Agreed. Same goes to me. I'm not all knowing in terms of prediction. I just give the routes that it can go to but even then, I can miss the mark. In short, we're all human.

[Darth Krypt]

Wow all he did was express an opinion/prediction that was shared with some youtubers. No pedestals were involved.

[thiagoSPTN]

 

Since when does being a youtube reviewer makes you a certified expert in story analysis?

 

They are just normal people like you and me, and they can make extremely wrong predictions that go completely against what happens later.

 

Did you know that Sawyer predicted some time before Tobi's reveal that his true identity was Sasuke from the future? lol

 

Did you know that KoL predicted that during 2013 we would see progression in the relationship between Naruto and Hinata? double lol

 

Don't put those guys on a pedestal. Their opinion is not superior to that of any other Naruto fan.

 

Totally agree with you. People overreact what these reviewers say, specially sawyer. I kinda like his videos, but he's VERY biased when it comes to a pairing argumentation. 

I learned to ignore what they say about NaruSaku, cause, in their point of view, if it's not their liking = bad.

[FireFox]

Okay, why is everyone so afraid of a SasuSaku moment happened at this very moment? It's not going to happen. This is why Karin was brought into play. Why do people keep forgetting that Karin loves Sasuke too and that Kishimoto purposely set it up so she would go? You don't need Sakura going if Karin is already there. I get you want Sakura to have that open choice between the two boys, but come on, that's pretty petty right now. The scene is supposed to be a huge emotional one with Naruto and Sasuke dying and you want a petty scene where Sakura has to choose between Naruto and Sasuke?

Some of you even think that if she knew about Sasuke, she would just abandon Naruto right then and there, but I doubt it. There is a good chance that Sakura wouldn't even know of Sasuke condition at all and I know people are going to use this in arguments. Which again is such a petty argument. I hate this one.

Sasuke has been on the battlefield the whole time and Sakura didn't worry about Sasuke once nor even thought about him. Why all of a sudden now? Because he is dying? If Kishi wanted Sakura to be by Sasuke, he would have set it up that way. Instead she is by Naruto's side keeping him alive. She teared up even at the thought, but kept her composure.

As for "lack of emotion" some are claiming. She is a medical ninja. Just like a real world doctor who is trained to put duty before emotion, she is putting what needs to be done first. It's not like Karin who is thrashing out erratically out of pure emotional trauma or Hinata who gets emotional and trips giving up. She is the strongest of the three. She'll be emotional when Naruto is alive and wakes up. 

It reminds me of that scene in the movie City of Angels where Maggie the doctor is trying to save an Old Man's life by literally massaging his heart. The old man dies anyway and she tells the family with a calm composure. She then goes to a secret staircase and starts crying her eyes out thinking she could have done more to save the man's life. That's what this scene is to me. Sakura is hold back because she has not given up hope yet and when it is all said and done, then she will feel the weight of the emotion. Still, the scene is very emotional internally (no pun intended) and that's where really the magic is. It's not on Sakura's face, it's what she is feeling in her heart.

I wouldn't have it any other way because Sakura is NOT Hinata, she is NOT Karin. She is a strong, yet stubborn girl who never gives up. People want to say that Hinata never gives up and yet we just had a scene where she did and broke down. Here we have Sakura doing the exact opposite of that and not giving up and not letting her emotions cloud her judgement.

 

This is how real story writing is supposed to be. Not just....as Nostaliga Critic..."UUUUNNNNNCCCLLLLLEEEE BEEEEEEEENNNNN OOOHHH"

Beautiful read i was just about to post something like this but then i saw your post and said F it   so i'm just gonna add a few things about this whole mess.

 

The fact that Kishi played this the way it played i think that it's suppose to show you that even if Sakura did find out about Sasuke it still wouldn't change a thing , that her choice is obviously Naruto and imo always has been and her finding out about Sasuke wouldn't even phased her so there is no need for adding a useless drama suspense , and  seriously the time for her to find out has past  away  since Sasuke's already gonna be taken care of by Karin/Taka or by whoever that person is , so if Sakura was supposed to know to be phased by this so it can play any kind of a difference with her feelings Kishi would have made it so , and this was the chapter that he should have done it but he didn't instead he put someone else to take care of Sasuke . So what this means is that Sakura finding out about Sasuke is pretty much irrelevant since Kishi is obviously bringing NS home and to some extend SK also .

 

Also i keep hearing things like , even if Sakura still loves Sasuke she would still chose Naruto cus she cares and he means to much to her , Konoha and the world , so for that reasons she would chose him . Ummmm NO just NO , can i just say how stupid and anti this sounds   . If Naruto means to much to her and she cares worries more about Naruto than Sasuke , then by what logic does she still loves Sasuke ? Sorry but that just shows you how much she doesn't love Sasuke , i have never understand this logic , shouldn't the person that's the most precious to you , the one you care , worry the most be the one you truly love ? So i really don't understand how can people claim that she "loves" Sasuke but Naruto's more important to her it doesn't make any sense to be honest , so i dare anyone to explain this to me .          

        

[redragon88]

Wow all he did was express an opinion/prediction that was shared with some youtubers. No pedestals were involved.

 

He used the fact that youtube reviewers are saying that Sakura will die as justification to be worried about it becoming a reality. That's putting their opinions on a pedestal.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I can't believe I thought Hinata will go flying and reach to Naruto. Lol silly me.

[dejavu]

Sakura doing a Chiyo is still possible imo..

 

who would reach minato first? Gaara or Madara?

 

That girl is as hardheaded as Naruto. She keeps on saying she'll absolutely save him, make him reach his dreams etc. so such a decision could be made, she made it a point in the Iron country arc that she'll sacrifice everything for Naruto and yes also Sasuke.

 

 

But then just a question.. is it just me over-thinking or is Sakura being included here is sort of a preparation for the bigger stage later on? or sadly her part is just upto this CPR and heart massage?? do you guys think she'll have a bigger role on this? or is this the peak of her usefulness for this current dilemma?

 

i'm a big Sakura fan so at first i never really thought of it much, as long as i could see her in a chapter.

 

but if Gaara and the kyuubi's plan is to get to Minato to save Naruto... then why go so far to Tsunade? time is racing and it seems that Minato is very far from them.

 

Why not go directly to Minato?

 

I know its for medical assistance.. but the Kyuubi was freakin' extracted so thats insta-death and we all know medical jutsu won't do kitten on a jinjuuriki who got his bijuu stolen. Gaara knows that well

 

Also, its Sakura not Tsunade, not karin or shizune not hinata or etc..

 

This setup is making me believe (or maybe its pure hope) Kishimoto prepared the stage during 662. 

 

And as much as i'm excited to  think that Sakura will do something BIG... i'm also scared of the danger she is in, although a part of me thinks she really won't die prolly near death or almost killed yeah but not FULLY killed.

Edited by hello panda, 06 February 2014 - 10:04 AM.

[soraandven]

since no one has mentioned this i guess i will remember in yu yu hakusho keiko gave alittle of her life energy to save yusuke she saved him by kissing him kishi could be setting up sakura to do what she did for him heh

[thiagoSPTN]

Sakura doing a Chiyo is still possible imo..

 

who would reach minato first? Gaara or Madara?

 

That girl is as hardheaded as Naruto. She keeps on saying she'll absolutely save him, make him reach his dreams etc. so such a decision could be made, she made it a point in the Iron country arc that she'll sacrifice everything for Naruto and yes also Sasuke.

 

 

But then just a question.. is it just me over-thinking or is Sakura being included here is sort of a preparation for the bigger stage later on? or sadly her part is just upto this CPR and heart massage?? do you guys think she'll have a bigger role on this? or is this the peak of her usefulness for this current dilemma?

 

i'm a big Sakura fan so at first i never really thought of it much, as long as i could see her in a chapter.

 

but if Gaara and the kyuubi's plan is to get to Minato to save Naruto... then why go so far to Tsunade? time is racing and it seems that Minato is very far from them.

 

Why not go directly to Minato?

 

I know its for medical assistance.. but the Kyuubi was freakin' extracted so thats insta-death and we all know medical jutsu won't do kitten on a jinjuuriki who got his bijuu stolen. Gaara knows that well

 

Also, its Sakura not Tsunade, not karin or shizune not hinata or etc..

 

This setup is making me believe (or maybe its pure hope) Kishimoto prepared the stage during 662. 

 

And as much as i'm excited to  think that Sakura will do something BIG... i'm also scared of the danger she is in, although a part of me thinks she really won't die prolly near death or almost killed yeah but not FULLY killed.

 

Sakura's participating a very important moment in the story right now, we can't deny it. Gaara too, they're both trying to save Naruto, and that's a crucial role they're having. I really hope that Kishi is planning more and more for her.

IMO Sakura is not going to die later on, I mean, she's one of the main, even though Kishimoto said that there will be 2 important deaths in this war. One of them was Neji, and I think Yamato may be the other one, or maybe Kakashi, or even Killer Bee, cause he had the Bijuu extraction too in the past chapters, he's probably dying or already dead at this moment.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The problem is, Nate, that unlike me and you and some other fans who look at "story" possibilities...many, many, many, other fans from other fandoms only look at the pairing possibilities and that is what I am talking about. Here is where I know you are going to say "Well, their opinions don't matter." They do actually and it all depends on the greater goal of the writer in question. If you want your audience for the majority to like a certain character or see them in a certain light, then don't put them or make them go into situation that you know might get them hated for it. Especially with an audience as shallow and as tunnel-visioned as the Naruto fandom.

The Naruto fandom is the cancer who helped to destroy the series.
In fact is that it doesnt matter, if she will get hated or not, i think the point is that how Sakura will react if she knows that Sasuke is dying that's the question, i doubt that Kishi will shown because his intention is to hide her feelings to the very end, even the recent two chapters doesnt give the impression she loves Naruto romantically now.
In a way it was less impactfull than Sasuke's death was to Karin, she rushed crying and asspulling Kushina's jutsu on a statue that not even the third was capable of beating it.

You guys keep trying to say "forget about them and focus on the story, it doesn't matter what opinion they have," but honestly I should argue that maybe we all should put the pairing wars on a backpedal and actually focus on the story itself. Here is the irony of it all as well, if every fan, regardless of pairing choice, just focused on what is good for the story and not what is good for their pairing choice then the pairing wars wouldn't even exist.

I think the author already give the impression he's not writing a good story just by the recent interview that he reassured once again that he's focused on giving a conclusive ending, already shows that he knows that the current arc is not making any sense at all.
We got yet another Sage of Six Paths wandering around which is stronger than Obito who already beat Naruto and Sasuke but was defeated because he gave up.

Unfortunately, that is not the world we live in. We live in a fandom where a majority of the fanbase cares more about their own pairing and what moments their pairng gets than actually what it an awesome story plot. You know this to be true. Kishimoto even knows this considering that he even hears some fan comments and even finds some of them disturbing when he answers with a "I thought I did this, but apparently I was told wrong by fans that it wasn't like this at all."

I dont think he's a good writer either, he's a bad writer and sums this with a fandom like Naruto, part 1 Naruto was a plagiarism of Hunter X Hunter.

So inessence it is our fault and we have no one to blame, but ourselves.

Yeah, it would be great from a story telling point of view, but all the drama that it would kick up would not be worth it. You're better off using it for something else. You are also guilty of the same thing with characters and plot devices that you find unreasonable even though it actually can be a good story plot. I am the same way with Sasuke as you are with Obito and Karin.

I think both, the author who cant write a decent story because is more concerned of giving fanservices and at the same time afraid of it's own fandom to a point that he cant even finish Hinata's character.

That kind of story plot would be better used for the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke where "This is the end, this is where all questions get answered."

Sasuke just killed the story.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 February 2014 - 11:58 AM.