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[rocci]

@toby
Sasuke open up to sakura =/= he will love sakura.
It's a possibility that sasuke will love sakura, but it's weak.

[Toby]

@rocci

He doesn't have to love Sakura to want to get married to her for reproduction purposes. It's either her or another fangirl and Sasuke would choose Sakura, to hold an advantage over Naruto if nothing else. (he doesn't know Karin)

And then, if Sakura can choose either Nauto or Sasuke, she can really look into whose personality she likes better if they are both loyal to Konoha. I don't like the idea of NaruSaku happening simply because Sasuke is unavaliable. It makes Sakura shallow and as Kishi once said "a terrible woman" I'm sorry but it's true you don't just settle for a man JUST because the other man isn't avaliable)

[rocci]

@toby
But naruto love sakura, while sasuke doesn't.

If sasuke love sakura that mean ss is canon since their feeling is mutual.

For your last paragraph, that's why naruto need to make confession when sasuke comeback.

Edited by rocci, 04 November 2015 - 12:29 AM.

[Toby]

@rocci
so if Sasuke decides to return her feelings, there's no way Sakura would change her mind, and realize she prefers hanging out Naruto over hanging out with Sasuke?

[rocci]

@rocci
so if Sasuke decides to return her feelings, there's no way Sakura would change her mind, and realize she prefers hanging out Naruto over hanging out with Sasuke?

Yes, it would make ss feeling mutual.
And the way to undo it is sasuke dead.

[Toby]

Yes, it would make ss feeling mutual.
And the way to undo it is sasuke dead.

 

wtf no D:

[NarutoxSakuraFan4Life]

The problem is Sasuke actually started forgetting about revenge. Like 99% FORGOT. When Itachi showed up and beat some sense into Sasuke, he SUDDENLY realized: "Whoa, friends distract you from your true goal," and degressed back to his revenge-driven state.

 

If that never happened, and if factors that drove Sasuke into defected the village NEVER happened, he'd still have revenge on his mind but once Team 7 happens, he won't be AS revenge-driven (this was canon) and he would have continued being a more comrade-person if Itachi/Orochimaru didn't try to brainwash him.

 

If that happened, I can't imagine Sasuke remaining COLD like you claim. He's already begun opening up to Naruto (and inveratably Sakura.)

 

 

 

 

if THIS was the Sasuke that remained in Konoha, he's obviously going to open up to Naruto and Sakura. If this guy opens up, how can NaruSaku still happen?

Also with Sakura being the ONLY girl he's close to, and his plans to still restore the Uchiha, he's going to want Sakura. In that case how can Naruto stand a chance? 

 

Most of your posts are on Sakura realizing Sasuke doesn't recooperate her feelings at all but if he did, how can Sakura still choose Naruto?

 

Would Sakura have matured as she grows, and stopped being so clingy to Sasuke? Close to both Naruto and Sasuke, who finally acknowledges her since she's matured and he considers her a comrade (during the Gaara fight,) but Sakura would realize there are traits in Naruto she likes more than the traits in Sasuke. Ex: She thinks Sasuke is cool/hot, but she has more FUN with Naruto because Naruto pulls pranks and is goofy, she also finds herself interacting with Naruto more than Sasuke (since she scolds Naruto and Sasuke is always doing his own thing even though they're still close like Team 7.)  I was thinking along the lines of that.

 

BUT the truth about the forehead scene coming out is very important.

 

You have a point, there. He did briefly forget about revenge, I forgot he forgot about revenge honestly, it's been so long since I read the beginning. But, if we are following the same storyline, Itachi would eventually show up, and get into Sasuke's head and that would cause Sasuke to close everyone out again. Just saying. 

 

Okay, so what you're saying is that if Sasuke opens up with Naruto and Sakura (and stays that way) he can't JUST be friends with Sakura like he is with Naruto? I have many guy friends that have opened up to me, and I have been nothing more than friends/acquaintances with them. Opening up to someone does not mean they are bound to fall for you. Love is more complex then that. 

 

Yeah, Sakura is the only girl he's close to but, if Sasuke becomes more open (and remains to be open as you say) to Naruto and Sakura, wouldn't that mean that he becomes more open to everyone else? Or would he just shut everyone else out? Which would make no sense at all...? Does that mean does that mean Ino has zero chance with Sasuke, still? 

 

As for Sasuke "choosing to be" with Sakura because he's "close to her and needs to revive his clan"? That would be pretty dang shallow and selfish. I can't even imagine how hurt Sakura would be if Sasuke flat out told her, "I'm only going to sleep with you because I want to restore my clan. It's not because I love you."  (Also if Sasuke is open, wouldn't he let Naruto know this? Do you think Naruto would stand by and let it happen? Sasuke is his best friend, but he loves Sakura. He would not let Sasuke just use Sakura like that, especially since he knows how she feels about him.) 

 

So honestly, if Sasuke wanted to get with Sakura just to restore his clan, that gives Naruto an even better shot. It not only makes Naruto look better, it would make Sakura realize a few things. (Or maybe not, because here she is with Sasuke today and she has a kid with him, but yet they haven't kissed.... and Sasuke isn't even there with them... what even...?) 

 

Well if he did feel the same way, then ss would be canon (again) but much healthier. I would probably tolerate it more personally if Sasuke reciprocated Sakura's feelings. I don't imagine she would choose Naruto then. I mean. unless if Sasuke and Sakura dated and found out they weren't as right for each other as they thought.  I don't know. Why would you ask that question if you pretty much know the answer? 

 

I noticed that she isn't as clingy to Sasuke as time went on. Like at the chunin exams (after Orochimaru attacked and she vowed to get stronger) she wasn't constantly up in his face, like she as. She showed her concern but she was constantly fangirling and trying to get his attention. She was also warming up to Naruto so Sasuke wasn't the only person she thought of 24/7. So, there is a 75% to 80% chance she would have still matured. Especially since she would still meet Tsunade and would train with her. 

 

But yeah, the bench/forehead scene and the truth coming out is what it all boils down to. As I said before, I think that one moment in Sakura's life was what triggered off how she fell for Sasuke. 

[ichigo500]

@ichigo
Yes, he still sasuke.
But why people think sasuke open up and become friendly mean sasuke will in love with sakura.
 

Well, I said there could be a POSSIBILITY ! There's no rule for this.Just like if someone who doesn't open his heart to anyone, can fall in love,unexpectedly . But if Sakura stayed like the chapter 3-Sakura, he wouldn't love her.  

[totherpage95]

i heard that there was some ss evidence in a databook apparently? about sakura healing sasuke's heart or something. if its true its probably some of the best evidence for ss. although information not from the original content doesn't seem reliable in anime/manga

Edited by totherpage95, 26 November 2015 - 03:22 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

i heard that there was some ss evidence in a databook apparently? about sakura healing sasuke's heart or something. if its true its probably some of the best evidence for ss

None of that happened with 3 and below. 4 I don't know but that is the last minute moment aka bs engaged. I wouldn't know. Databook 3 still really mess up the flow of "it's pure SS all the way and no one else."

[rocci]

I think it from databook 1.

The only one who fill sasuke lonely hearth is naruto.

[db84x]

Sakura isn't popular enough to be Naruto wife, Japanesse fans base already say it, due their preference on moe character than tsundere.   Actually SP in beginning managed to sold idea to fans base but flock tsundere heroine in market made NS loosing appeal in Japan fanbase.  Honestly most of Sakura haters came from anti tsundere faction, later when Sakura stripped from her tsundere trait, Sakura popularity start became normal again. 

Edited by db84x, 26 November 2015 - 03:58 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I wouldn't say that its impossible, just a very difficult hurdle. 

I mean by the Chuunin exams Sakura was already starting to view Naruto more positively,  if Sasuke continued to be a jerk and showed no interest, If Naruto was consistent in his affections and they just continued building up, who can say?

But thats only if you were to throw Kishimoto's writing out the window  

[Ryriena]

Sakura isn't popular enough to be Naruto wife, Japanesse fans base already say it, due their preference on moe character than tsundere.   Actually SP in beginning managed to sold idea to fans base but flock tsundere heroine in market made NS loosing appeal in Japan fanbase.  Honestly most of Sakura haters came from anti tsundere faction, later when Sakura stripped from her tsundere trait, Sakura popularity start became normal again. 

kitten off please and thanks a story shouldn't be based off of popularity. Quit your trolling and as a matter fact Sakura in Japan made the top ten every freaking poll while Neji was above Hinata in every poll. Hell even Sakura was above Hinata in Japaness polls in American polls she might have been above Sakura.

[rocci]

kitten off please and thanks a story shouldn't be based off of popularity. Quit your trolling and as a matter fact Sakura in Japan made the top ten every freaking poll while Neji was above Hinata in every poll. Hell even Sakura was above Hinata in Japaness polls in American polls she might have been above Sakura.

I disagre with him, tsundere >>>>> moe shy character anytime anyday in japan. Tsundere triumph in shonen.

But he's right that sakura is not that popular.
In the latest weekly shonen jump poll, sakura doesn't place in top ten. Hinata instead goes to top ten. So yeah, Hinata beat sakura in wsj popularity poll.

[Ryriena]

I disagre with him, tsundere >>>>> moe shy character anytime anyday in japan. Tsundere triumph in shonen.
But he's right that sakura is not that popular.
In the latest weekly shonen jump poll, sakura doesn't place in top ten. Hinata instead goes to top ten. So yeah, Hinata beat sakura in wsj popularity poll.

So that's what I said in Japan she much more popular than Hinata and not in the states becuase they don't understand the Tsundere troop. WSJ = Japan who knew.

[Nostradamus]

I disagre with him, tsundere >>>>> moe shy character anytime anyday in japan. Tsundere triumph in shonen.

But he's right that sakura is not that popular.
In the latest weekly shonen jump poll, sakura doesn't place in top ten. Hinata instead goes to top ten. So yeah, Hinata beat sakura in wsj popularity poll.

Yeah once she was ahead of Sakura. But again have you forgotten the poll that Ramen posted which showed Sakura way above Hinata. And even now you can see that Hinata is not popular with the Japanese since after The Last they stopped using her to advertise their stuff entirely.

Hinata is not really popular, she just has a loud and small rabid fanbase in the west that will rip your heart out and eat it for dinner if you dare to even say anything bad about her.

Edited by Nostradamus, 26 November 2015 - 11:37 PM.

[rocci]

So that's what I said in Japan she much more popular than Hinata and not in the states becuase they don't understand the Tsundere troop. WSJ = Japan who knew.

In japan based on wsj poll, Hinata is more popular than sakura.
Sakura reception in japan is as poor as the other country.

[TouKen4Life3g]

In japan based on wsj poll, Hinata is more popular than sakura.
Sakura reception in japan is as poor as the other country.

Amazing how we really have a poor heroine. I rarely see one and when I do, there's no replacement.

[rocci]

Amazing how we really have a poor heroine. I rarely see one and when I do, there's no replacement.

Do you know detective conan?
The latest popularity poll show that a side female character place in number two/three. She beat the heroine and love interest of mc. But this is aoyama gosho and not kishimoto, so I doubt he will change heroine in the last minute.

@nostradamus
Well, that's in 2chan. Wsj use their own popularity poll to determine the popularity of character.