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[rocci]

@ns4life

for me the one who will defeat madara is obito or combination of obito and kakashi.

it can be sasuke the one who will finish of madara, but I don't like that idea.

 

I believe the war arc will end in the next volume. 

[Shadow1275]

 

It won't be entirely over. Orochimaru is still lurking about (he can't be left to his own devices for long since he's still a dangerous threat to the nations) and if Taka chooses to remain beside Sasuke in his venture then they will definitely be locking horns with Naruto and friends. 

True plus despite Sasuke's "change of heart" I still consider him a villain. I'm just happy we're making progress in this war. For a while it was just back to back flashbacks coupled with Tnj that spouted the same thing over and over and over and over.... Ugh

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Madara has to be intoxicated with a tunnel vision perspective of having a new living body now for him to be so ecstatic. Otherwise it would be very odd of him to be so enthusiastic because this mortality doesn't change too much in the way of his enemies' strength. The entire Alliance, the bijuu, the Edo Hokages, and the living Kages are all focused on him still. Breathing life into his barren soul would actually make his predicament worst since he can be killed now. 

 

If he believes that by aiming for Hashirama's senjutsu will somehow save him then he's wrong. Realistically that opportunity would be lost to him the moment his distraction that was keeping everyone at bay was defeated. 

Like he would care, being mortal he's more strong than an edo, seals wont work on him anymore and he will able to uses jutsus that requires vitality, his rinnegan.

I noticed that Edo Tenseis are weaker than their being mortal ones.

BUt still it cant make sense on how we have a lot of ninjas with sensorial skills and even Naruto and they still could not sense Madara's kage bushin beneath the earth crawling towards Obito.

 

 

What's the point of becoming mortal again?

 

Probably kishi wants to make him the final villain, i can even see, Madara killing Orochimaru because Kishi has doesnt know what to do with him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 November 2013 - 10:13 AM.

[HauntedCake]

Wow what a chapter!

 

Poor Obito =(

 

I think Madara is after the 9 tails only tbh.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Wow what a chapter!

 

Poor Obito =(

 

I think Madara is after the 9 tails only tbh.

Kishi said that the bijuu's will gather together and kick his ass.

[James S Cassidy]

I would say "called it," but then everyone kind of called it at this point. ET Madara is now alive again? Well, if he can die once before he can die again. Think about this, we have a living Madara versus ET Hokage's and the rest of the alliance, the tailed beast, and then some. Realistically speaking, there is no way Madara can win....by himself. He would need to some how take control of the tailed beast again, use them to resurrect the ten-tails....again, and then have the power to wipe the army....again.

You know, I have lost track of why Madara is doing all this in the first place. Does anyone remember why he is doing all this?

Anyway, for those who wanted Obito to die...well you got your wish...which sucks. Can't we have one villain actually reform and you know NOT die? I guess you can count Gaara, but...whatever. Also, why is everyone saying "Wow, Obito change so quick." What part did it happen so quickly? Obito has been a villain for a good what 2 years run? What even surprises me more is how some of you that are kind of whining that it happened too quickly were the same ones who just wanted the war to be over cause it was going on for too long. I don't get it. Maybe I never will.

 

So the only villain, and I use this term lightly here, that is going to reform and live on is going to be Sasuke. I know he is not going die because of whatever reason now.

 

It is interesting with the twist where he was going to do the magic reset button and was stopped by Madara to revive himself. Although, now Madara can die...again. Sure, he is hard to kill, but now he is vulnerable to death once again. So I think he just weakened himself a bit here.

 

 

 

Am I the only one that feels sorry for Obito ?
I mean Madara has to pay for what he has done to him. Brainwashed him, controlled him, was probably directly or indirectly responsible for Rins death.
He took one of the nicest people in the NV and turned him into something evil and rotten.
And Obito finally woke up, he understood and was willing to die in order to undo some of the wrongs he has done. But once again Madara uses him as nothing but a tool to further his own agenda. It's a terrible life he has lived and a painful death. Knowing that even with your death you are helping the man who is responsible for all your suffering.

 

You are not the only one. Me and a vast minority actually feel....sorry for Obito due to the idea that he really is a victim of circumstance. Not unlike Sasuke, who had every chance to live a normal life and then threw it away willingly.

 

Obito, I hope you get to see Rin again. Despite everything, no one deserves to be alone.

 

Does Madara still have Hashirama's cells within him or is that part of him now gone because he is fully revived?

 

Oh chances are by some cop-out Uchiha black magic he gets to keep those powers and use them all he wants. Madara is broken like that.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 27 November 2013 - 10:28 AM.

[Hanabi]

This chapter was a pleasant surprise. if kishi can produce quality chapters like this I rather he work every two week. I literally laughed out loud when obito thought of doing rinne tensei. So is neji alive now? hahaha.

Kishi said that the bijuu's will gather together and kick his ass.

I think bijuus should actually stay far far away from that sly person. madara will kick their ass one by one like this 

Edited by Hanabi, 27 November 2013 - 10:30 AM.

[rocci]

@darkrest

zetsu  is earth himself, and look at how easy he can sneak into the summit without detection and to detect it, alliance need naruto emotion sensor, and well for naruto hmm... maybe madara presence overcoming his sense

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I would say "called it," but then everyone kind of called it at this point. ET Madara is now alive again? Well, if he can die once before he can die again. Think about this, we have a living Madara versus ET Hokage's and the rest of the alliance, the tailed beast, and then some. Realistically speaking, there is no way Madara can win....by himself. He would need to some how take control of the tailed beast again, use them to resurrect the ten-tails....again, and then have the power to wipe the army....again.

You know, I have lost track of why Madara is doing all this in the first place. Does anyone remember why he is doing all this?

Anyway, for those who wanted Obito to die...well you got your wish...which sucks. Can't we have one villain actually reform and you know NOT die? I guess you can count Gaara, but...whatever. Also, why is everyone saying "Wow, Obito change so quick." What part did it happen so quickly? Obito has been a villain for a good what 2 years run? What even surprises me more is how some of you that are kind of whining that it happened too quickly were the same ones who just wanted the war to be over cause it was going on for too long. I don't get it. Maybe I never will.

 

So the only villain, and I use this term lightly here, that is going to reform and live on is going to be Sasuke. I know he is not going die because of whatever reason now.

 

It is interesting with the twist where he was going to do the magic reset button and was stopped by Madara to revive himself. Although, now Madara can die...again. Sure, he is hard to kill, but now he is vulnerable to death once again. So I think he just weakened himself a bit here.
 

I just pointed out that on the story, they arent punished by other people, it's the villains who punish themselves.

Because of the things he did Obito wanted to use to Gedo Rinne Tensei to make up for himself, Kakashi even said "you can still be here and compensate" but he chose to die using the rinne tensei to make up for that.

 

Yep but he will also find a way to punish himself and make up for his bad actions but wont be death.

[六道仙人]

good chapter... I seemed to understand that Obito was gonna to revive Jiraiya... Did you have this feeling too, guys?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

good chapter... I seemed to understand that Obito was gonna to revive Jiraiya... Did you have this feeling too, guys?

I have the feeling, after this chapter, that is Madara who's going to use the Gedo Rinne Tensei.

I'm not joking.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 November 2013 - 10:56 AM.

[六道仙人]

I have the feeling, after this chapter, that is Madara who's going to use the Gedo Rinne Tensei.

I'm not joking.

 

LOL me too.. He will gonna to revive Hashirama LOL

[Inferno180]

Well that's the climax this volume, madaras trump card was black zetsu. Now obito is dead and Madara is revived. Didn't see that coming but now the fight has escalated. Obito did die for his sins and hoped to use the rinne tensei for the right reasons but now he is dead.

This was an interesting chapter, gaara talking to shukaku was a nice part with the other tailed beasts wanting to help. If anything the fight against Madara may depend on the 7 tailed beasts to help.

Likewise since obito is dead and the rinne tensei is gone, I would say the route of a temp sakura death has been closed off, if no rinne tensei is to come then there is no chance for this to come up, she could be hurt but live. Even then there would not be much of an impact on her kinda like the tree of lif event in which we thought it took her chakra away when it simply grazed her and instead we had to worry about shikamaru. Now with a revived Madara, the only thing left to do is kill him, something naruto and Sasuke must handle I bet it's going to be bad for hashirama though.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well that's the climax this volume, madaras trump card was black zetsu. Now obito is dead and Madara is revived. Didn't see that coming but now the fight has escalated. Obito did die for his sins and hoped to use the rinne tensei for the right reasons but now he is dead.

This was an interesting chapter, gaara talking to shukaku was a nice part with the other tailed beasts wanting to help. If anything the fight against Madara may depend on the 7 tailed beasts to help.

Likewise since obito is dead and the rinne tensei is gone, I would say the route of a temp sakura death has been closed off, if no rinne tensei is to come then there is no chance for this to come up, she could be hurt but live. Even then there would not be much of an impact on her kinda like the tree of lif event in which we thought it took her chakra away when it simply grazed her and instead we had to worry about shikamaru. Now with a revived Madara, the only thing left to do is kill him, something naruto and Sasuke must handle I bet it's going to be bad for hashirama though.

We have no confirmation that Obito is dead, the guy said that he still had the gedo mazou and which gave him a lot of vitality.

I'll hold on this until Kishi confirms Obito's death, i'm not going to jump on conclusions too soon.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 November 2013 - 11:01 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

We have no confirmation that Obito is dead, the guy said that he still had the gedo mazou and which gave him a lot of vitality.

I'll hold on this until Kishi confirms Obito's death, i'm not going to jump on conclusions too soon.

 

I have a funny feeling if he is not dead already, he is going to die.

[Canadian_DJ]

Does this mean obito is dead :'(

[Nefertieh]

Even though I saw it coming, I actually hoped Obito would stick around for a bit longer. He would be a bit too much of a sore thumb to be kept in the story from a plot perspective, and would never be forgiven by the shinobi world.

 

 

We have no confirmation that Obito is dead, the guy said that he still had the gedo mazou and which gave him a lot of vitality.

I'll hold on this until Kishi confirms Obito's death, i'm not going to jump on conclusions too soon.

 

My guess would be that he'd have a hand in defeating Madara for good. It would finally give him a "redemption," I suppose.

Edited by Nefertieh, 27 November 2013 - 12:30 PM.

[六道仙人]

Maybe Nagato is dead for the huge effort given that he had to revive more than one people while Obito was forced to revive only one person here...

[HauntedCake]

Now we will have an entire volume of tnj between hashi and madara....

[BlueStarSaber]

Say out of curiosity how would everyone react if Sakura does the killing blow to Madara? Not saying it's likely or goanna happen, just how would you feel.