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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:09 AM

I hated post-war Sakura especially the one from Naruto gaiden. She was childish and fangirled over Sasuke all the way to the end. I know it's all Kishi's fault to ruin Sakura's character. But if I have to blame a character for the ending, it would be Sakura. She was a fangirl until the very end even after she got Sasuke's dck as an apology. She never grew up, no wonder Naruto got over her. 

I think what's even worse is that she's a grown adult who let all of this happen. I'm still here just wondering like...if she would have just told Sarada the truth in the first chapter then none of this would have happened. Sarada wouldn't have had to put her life in danger. Regardless of what anyone says Sakura IS at fault for that.


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:19 AM

I think what's even worse is that she's a grown adult who let all of this happen. I'm still here just wondering like...if she would have just told Sarada the truth in the first chapter then none of this would have happened. Sarada wouldn't have had to put her life in danger. Regardless of what anyone says Sakura IS at fault for that.

That's a very good point. Sakura should have straightened it out with Sarada from the beginning, i don't know why the hell she was hesitant


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:26 AM

That's a very good point. Sakura should have straightened it out with Sarada from the beginning, i don't know why the hell she was hesitant

And salad will not go to her adventure of searching for papa suke.

Is that called plot device?

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:29 AM

That's a very good point. Sakura should have straightened it out with Sarada from the beginning, i don't know why the hell she was hesitant

 

 

Maybe years of being in an abusive/ emotionally absent relationship with Sasuke has conditioned her to be an indecisive wreck.   :zaru:     

 

 

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:34 AM

And salad will not go to her adventure of searching for papa suke.

Is that called plot device?

yeah that plot made no sense. kishi is a fail


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:35 AM

yeah that plot made no sense. kishi is a fail

Tbh I can't believe he make kakashi gaiden with just, I don't know 6 chapters.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:19 AM



I see a lot of "well if Sakura is bad then __ is too" but isn't that avoiding the question? Point being is that Sakura's actions should not be blamed on anyone else. At this point of time she is a grown woman with grown responsibilities and just because other characters messed up too doesn't mean she shouldn't get critiqued. 

 

She's a character. She's only as good as her author, and the reason why people bring up "this person" "that person" is to show that she's a symptom of a greater problem--the author's inability to make his character's act in a way that's accountable, reasonable, and with enough justification that a reader could go "well, I see why they did that from their perspective..."

 

That's the funny thing about Gaiden; Sarada has taken on our questions and presented them in the framework of the story. Do her mom and dad love each other? Is Sakura her real mother when she looks so much like Karin? Why can't her mom answer questions? Gaiden was supposed to address these issues that largely revolve around Sasuke and Sakura's relationship/family and the result... didn't make sense.

 

Of course she's getting critiqued--and as redrose pointed out there is an odd fixation on her given that it's not an inherent flaw of personality and character; her actions in Gaiden go well above and beyond it. Sakura's actions and her relationship with Sasuke, like every other character who recieved focus in this story are the result of bad writing. 

 

Okay, so she's a grown woman with responsibilities. The only thing that I personally disliked was when she punched a hole in the ground and brought her house down. That is irresponsible and it could have hurt her albeit ninja daughter; and quite the over-reaction... but we know why it happened. It was a plot device for Sarada to find the photo, which in turn is another strange plot device... all for the sake of the red herrings. So if we ignore those and focus more on Sakura's relationship and life choices, they're not the most dignified but why should I hate her for them--now at this point in the story? She's living a domestic life after most of the conflict is over, raising her daughter. No evidence shows that she's a terrible mom, and maybe she wouldn't win mother of the year awards but what? What is she doing that most grown women with responsibilities don't anyway? If she divorces Sasuke, she's going to be in a similar situation--unless being a grown woman with responsibilities includes finding a man to marry that might stick around for... or else we'll hate her?



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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:40 AM

@ Broken Figurine You're right.

All the things that happened in this spin off was shown to come about due to plot devices. Things like Sakura tapping herself over team Taka's photo, instead of cutting them out, Shikamaru letting two unsupervised academy students leave the village, even when he knew there was an enemy targeting Salad, and of course the fact that for some bizarre reason Karin had Salad's umbilical cord.

The plot devices were so obvious that it was ridiculous. Everything was forced, the " conflict" was forced, Sasuke's absence for 12 years was forced, and SS scenes were forced, because none of this should have happened.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 06:48 AM

Sakura is horrible. No development, same girl from part 1 only older tbh.

 

What is really crappy is when the NS fandom attacks Naruto like he was supposed to love Sakura forever and become Jiraiya. Its Sakura's fault NS didnt happen, Naruto was the captain of the NS ship, he was the only thing keeping us going. Thankfully he moved on and made himself a family, I am proud of him for that. 


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 07:56 AM

Sakura is horrible. No development, same girl from part 1 only older tbh.
 
What is really crappy is when the NS fandom attacks Naruto like he was supposed to love Sakura forever and become Jiraiya. Its Sakura's fault NS didnt happen, Naruto was the captain of the NS ship, he was the only thing keeping us going. Thankfully he moved on and made himself a family, I am proud of him for that. 

No, naruto doesn't need to become jiraiya.
naruto only need to make confession or if he truly doesn't love sakura, he(read: kishi) should make it clear.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 10:56 AM

It just breaks my heart. I can't hate sakura... she's one of my favourite characters... but the way it all ended...

 

heck i've seen way better FF where sakura truly blossomed.

 

She's worse than her 12 year old self now.. :(


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 02:01 PM

I don't really think her character changed much. She is just acting on her already present character flaws more than before.

This is the reason I started hating her after the last.
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Posted 03 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

I really feel for Sakura here, but as others have said, it's Kishi's fault, since a character is only as good as their writer, and he screwed her over so much, just as he did EVERYONE in this series, even the kids.



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Posted 03 July 2015 - 02:34 PM

Yep. Lol. The worst was Karin (keeping the umbical chord and all that). Like yeah..She was clingy. but is a whole new level.

In the end, the characters suffered and thus it is the characters who're hated, just as primarily, it is the character who's loved if it's well written, not the author :D
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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:34 PM

Sakura is horrible. No development, same girl from part 1 only older tbh.
 
What is really crappy is when the NS fandom attacks Naruto like he was supposed to love Sakura forever and become Jiraiya. Its Sakura's fault NS didnt happen, Naruto was the captain of the NS ship, he was the only thing keeping us going. Thankfully he moved on and made himself a family, I am proud of him for that.

I dont see how naruto went from being his own person to a mere pawn/figurehead is anything good. He was so pathetic in the last, a supposedly canon story shoved down our throat.

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    Wish that Kishi would just stop trying to 'fix' Naruto, I guess that no one ever told him the phrase 'digging your own grave'. I will remember fondly the characters that made me love Naruto that were sacrificed at the all-mighty altar that is money (and crazy fan boys/girls).

Posted 03 July 2015 - 04:11 PM

In regards to the first paragraph, why does Naruto garner any blame for the person Sakura has turned out to be? And also, did you forget Sakura did the exact same thing as Naruto? Sakura used Sasuke for her pissing contest with Ino, yet routinely gets no flak for that. There are only two differences between Naruto and Sakura when it comes to that. The first is that there was an exorbitant amount of evidence that Sakura's only reason for pining after Sasuke was to beat Ino, while there was no evidence to suggest that about Naruto. The second difference between her and Naruto is that Sakura succeeded whereas Naruto failed.

 

That's exactly right!!!! While both are at fault, Sakura used Sasuke as a measuring stick in her rivalry with Ino, she even admits that Ino is her rival in love!!! Naruto never does admit to using Sakura as a way to beat Sasuke, I honestly think that Kishi and the writers of The Last just used that as an excuse to destroy any chance of Naruto and Sakura getting together. The fact that it only can be a man's feelings that change is ridiculous, and unrealistic. That's why I hate more on the writers than the characters because they were the one's in charge of giving these characters life, and Kishi and comp. totally ruined them.



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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:09 PM

 

She's a character. She's only as good as her author, and the reason why people bring up "this person" "that person" is to show that she's a symptom of a greater problem--the author's inability to make his character's act in a way that's accountable, reasonable, and with enough justification that a reader could go "well, I see why they did that from their perspective..."

 

That's the funny thing about Gaiden; Sarada has taken on our questions and presented them in the framework of the story. Do her mom and dad love each other? Is Sakura her real mother when she looks so much like Karin? Why can't her mom answer questions? Gaiden was supposed to address these issues that largely revolve around Sasuke and Sakura's relationship/family and the result... didn't make sense.

 

Of course she's getting critiqued--and as redrose pointed out there is an odd fixation on her given that it's not an inherent flaw of personality and character; her actions in Gaiden go well above and beyond it. Sakura's actions and her relationship with Sasuke, like every other character who recieved focus in this story are the result of bad writing. 

 

Okay, so she's a grown woman with responsibilities. The only thing that I personally disliked was when she punched a hole in the ground and brought her house down. That is irresponsible and it could have hurt her albeit ninja daughter; and quite the over-reaction... but we know why it happened. It was a plot device for Sarada to find the photo, which in turn is another strange plot device... all for the sake of the red herrings. So if we ignore those and focus more on Sakura's relationship and life choices, they're not the most dignified but why should I hate her for them--now at this point in the story? She's living a domestic life after most of the conflict is over, raising her daughter. No evidence shows that she's a terrible mom, and maybe she wouldn't win mother of the year awards but what? What is she doing that most grown women with responsibilities don't anyway? If she divorces Sasuke, she's going to be in a similar situation--unless being a grown woman with responsibilities includes finding a man to marry that might stick around for... or else we'll hate her?

Okay, pointing out that she's a character is like saying "water is wet"  at this point. I think everyone can agree that Sakura's problems are all the result of Kishimoto's own issues with Sakura. He's even admitted that he didn't know how to make her character more popular, and it's obvious he didn't find the answer. But we know this. Pointing this out is completely derailing the original question. 

 

The topic is to discuss Sakura's actions, not to discuss who's at fault. Now granted, her actions are the case of misleading the readers to fall for another red herring, but it doesn't mean we can't discuss them. In the end, all Kishimoto did was make Sakura look worse than she already did. Like I've continuously said, Kishimoto gave people a justified right to hate Sakura now. But we should be talking about her actions, and her actions only. 

 

Another thing though-  do you guys really think everyone looks as bad as Sakura and Sasuke after the Gaiden? I mean, yeah Shikamaru made some mistakes, Naruto is rusty and broken, Ino apparently is still fond of Sasuke, Hinata became a housewife, etc. The list could go on. But what none of them have done is wait for a man who's never returned for 12 years like a dog waiting for food. None of them have been shown to put themselves in debt. None of them showed violence to their own kid. This entire Gaiden made Sakura and Sasuke look the worst out of everybody. Which is why pointing the finger to somebody else doesn't help. 

 

Okay....maybe Naruto looks as bad as both Sakura and Sasuke but that's about it. 


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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:36 AM

Of course I see things from both sides, the first being that all these characters are the way they are because they were written that way. Their personalities, their actions, and their behavior in general comes from Kishi. Everything that they we were, and are now, is because of him. However I can understand looking at everyone as if they were real people, hypothetically that is. If I do that, then I personally think that Sakura is a women with very poor judgement....very poor judgement. I haven't been pleased with her, especially with Gaiden, she really went down in my book, but I can't sit here and say she's a horrible person that I hate because of her actions, no matter how crappy they are, because lets face it, there are moments in all our lives were we haven't made the best choices, and while it's easy to say "Oh my god when will she learn," we ourselves are very capable of making the same mistakes over and over again in our own lives. 

 

With that said I don't think Sakura was ever really a bad person from the beginning, a brat maybe, but never bad. She really grew as a person, and for the better, especially in Shippuden. She was actually really maturing, but once the war started she began to decline little by little. For whatever reason Sasuke does nothing but robe her of her own self respect. The strong woman that she's very capable of being crumbles whenever he's near. I know most everyone here agrees that if Naruto and Sakura were Bolt's parents he wouldn't be a brat, because Sakura wouldn't allow Naruto to neglect their child. She'd put a stop to it, and she'd also put Bolt in his place if he ever threw bratty fits in front of her. No sad looking Hinata moments if her son threw his sisters birthday cake on the floor.

 

However, when she's with Sasuke, Sakura becomes a shell of a person, and big issues, like Sasuke not being with his family for 12 years, is forgiven with, a family dinner, a family picture, a neglected kiss, and a forehead tap for his daughter. Sakura can be so pathetic, and it's sad to watch her interact with Sasuke, because each time she does we're guarantee that she'll messed up in one way or another. She becomes this drone that only has Sasuke on her mind. Which doesn't make any sense seeing that Sasuke hasn't been loving to her, there's no romance, no interaction, heck no communication between the two! It's easy to say that Salad was the product of a one night stand, a miracle child if you will, especially when you realize just how hard it is to get pregnant. In some ways Sakura acts like an abused woman. She just keeps taking emotional beatings over and over again, but her unwavering devotion to him never falters.

 

Which brings me to one of the many things Sakura has done that I was very disappointed in, and that was her looking for Sasuke while she was pregnant. She was a damn fool for doing that, she was being completely irresponsible and not thinking about what was really important, and that was her unborn child. It's almost as if she was banking on Sasuke not leaving her again if he saw that she was with child. Her searching for him was a desperate attempt for her to have a somewhat normal life with him. She wanted to be the happy house wife doting on her husband and child, and traveling for 9 freaking months to make that come true was sad. Doing that, keeping Salad in the dark, hiding her apparent friends photo with her own, allowing Sasuke to abandon them for 12 years, and permitting him to make her look like a damn love struck fool that was just denied a freaking kiss is just unbelievable.

 

All of these mistakes have just added to her horrible track record as of late. If she would have just thought things through she wouldn't be as hated as she is. Once she had Salad that should have been enough for her, she should have forgotten about Sasuke. She shouldn't have painted a picture of him to her daughter at all. No fake family photos, or  Uchiha clan symbol. She should have been honest with Salad from the beginning. She could have easily told Salad that her father was someone she thought she knew as a child, but he was a damaged man, and he's on his own little journey to make amends for all his wrongs. Being honest with her daughter from the start would have stopped all the events in Gaiden from happening to begin with.

 

I mean one of Sakura's biggest jobs as a mother is too show her daughter what a healthy relationship looks like. Allowing her to see the mess, that is her being submissive towards Sasuke, is a major fail on her part. Would she want Salad to end up with someone like her father? Would a mother want that kind of treatment for her own daughter, no of course not, but for whatever reason Sakura doesn't seem to see things like that. So again I don't think she's a bad person, instead she's a poor shell of a women who's allowed a simple crush to turn into a toxic relationship that has left her as an emotional slave to a man who's only connection to her is through their daughter. 


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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:42 AM

@konohakitten
Sakura has poor judgement because she doesn't has byakugan lol.

For some reason kishi always emphasize that she can't see "thing" with her eye.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:45 AM

I almost agree but I don't really hate this Sakura. My anger is not directed at her. I hate Kishimoto for destroying his characters.

totally agree, honestly they're now all characters that were created by kishimoto's lack of Backbone :facepalm:   

 

personally, I would've been okay with the ending ONLY if sasuke was truly sorry to both sakura & naruto for everything he did & if kashimoto created him to be a great uchiha, working alongside naruto to help Konoha  

but all Kishi did was basically force two characters to revert back to being 12 years old, and with an emo hairstyle (-.///)


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