Do you think this would happen if NaruSaku became canon?
#41
Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:51 AM
#42
Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:37 AM
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#43
Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:15 AM
#44
Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:39 AM
#45
Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:26 PM
I want to ask, how many have been through a really bad break up? I have and even though I have thought about the person it was me finding closure. What was the reason why it didn't work out? Reflecting ideas back onto the situation and so forth. From my own experiences, whenever I thought about the person or someone asked me about love I thought my ex. "You need someone special" Was my ex special? "You need someone who loves you no matter what" Was she someone that loved me no matter what? and yes I even got a similar "She must be someone special." I realized she wasn't something special. She was mean and nasty to me and I realized I was the true pathetic one. Like people have said of her regretting her emotions.
Well that's the reason why I put "problem" in quotation marks, because to me, there really isn't a problem. Yeah sure, the fact that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke after everything he's done is kind of a bummer but ultimately, I feel that having Sakura go through this process is the best solution, not just because it is the most realistic, but because it also fits with Sakura's role of being the most human out of all the Naruto characters.
As for your question. Yeah, I have been through a really bad break up. It was about five years ago. At the time, I was very upset (she was the one who broke up with me), but in just a few months I slowly began to realize that it really wasn't a healthy relationship. Once that happened, my life improved drastically and overall I felt like I came out of it as a better more mature person.
Look at what the lover-nin said "He must be a great guy." That sentence alone makes me think as much as Sakura did. The fact that Sasuke isn't a great guy. The fact that she tries see it in Sasuke and can't is her realizing the truth and getting closure.
Now, let's say in the upcoming chapters Sakura sees Naruto again and the lover-nins words play in her mind "He must be a great guy" and she sees Naruto standing like a hero fighting the enemy protecting everyone from harm even at the cost of his own health. If Kishi does that in any form or in anyway implies this way of thinking, then it would confirm my theory that really this is just Sakura getting closure and re-evaluating her feelings.
Agreed. Once she gets to actually see Naruto in action, I believe whatever inner turmoil she might have about love will be resolved. However, as I've said before, nothing will truly be resolved until Naruto and Sakura both sit down and sort out their feelings.
Sakura still thinking of Sasuke is to keep the readers in anticipation and to make them raise the question: Sakura keeps growing closer to Naruto but yet she thinks of Sasuke, will she really change her feelings?
Kishimoto will make us keep thinking this question until he's ready to resolve the love side plot, not before.
My thoughts exactly. The moment we have any sort of solid evidence that Sakura has even the slighest romantic interest in Naruto is the moment NS will be canon. So of course Kishi is going to keep things as ambiguous as possible. It's just that some people don't see it that way and take everything at face value.
Edited by TerrorKing, 03 May 2012 - 03:29 PM.
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#46
Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:50 PM
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#47
Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:28 PM
I really like that, but Hinata also said that she and Naruto were going to be side by side. i wonder how she'll interfere with this.
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#48
Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:51 PM
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#49
Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:52 PM
naruto can make a clone did u forget it?
i think the love for sasuke was just to give more power to the rivalry between naruto and sasuke.
about hinata was just to say that naruto wasnt all alone
Edited by dovahkiin, 03 May 2012 - 07:54 PM.
#50
Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:30 PM
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#51
Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:33 PM
You'd be surprised.
I think we all agree that none of us should truly jump to any conclusion until we get more Sakura and Naruto interaction and that is almost guaranteed. That will be the moment of truth and depending on how Kishi plays it out we will get a better sense of what is happening.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 May 2012 - 01:02 PM.
#52
Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:52 PM
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#53
Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:36 PM
1) It was just to troll NS fans more
2) Kishi is thinking of not making sakura love naruto and end naruto alone or something else but he won't make NS canon
Other than the above reasons their was really no need of that scene I think!
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#54
Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:46 PM
1) It was just to troll NS fans more
2) Kishi is thinking of not making sakura love naruto and end naruto alone or something else but he won't make NS canon
Other than the above reasons their was really no need of that scene I think!
But...it wasn't a romance scene. Not really. I think we can establish that romance scenes can only occur when both characters interact and show romance in them. Otherwise we have to count it as a romance scene every time Hinata thought about Naruto.
I think what Kishimoto is trying to do is development. Let's be honest about this, if Sakura just all of a sudden started to love Naruto, then it won't be believable. Even if we did win, it wouldn't make sense. I rather show that development process happening. I am not wavered by it at all because to me, it's her getting over her feelings like I said. It's really hard to explain and I am trying the best I can, but I could not see this happen any other way.
Maybe my point would be clearer when Sakura and Naruto interact again and we get a romance scene for real between them. It would show what I mean more clearly.
#55
Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:45 PM
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#56
Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:16 PM
Sakura feeding is definitely a romantic moment. Especially since when he has Sai say "I heard if you are close to someone, you feed them." Sai is what I like to call a "Rosetta stone to the romance." He basically points out ways that people get close with them not using honorifics, feeding each other, interactions, and other such things. While he makes Sai some what clueless in an innocent sort of way, I think Kishi uses him as saying "If Sai points out that it is romantic or "friendly" then it most definitely is."
Maybe this is why he uses Sai as this third party negotiator. He is getting the ball rolling and he has pushed Naruto and Sakura into admitting they love each other. I think people take what Sai says too literally though and mostly he just says what people want to hear to push people. It's like how Sai said that the POAL was a burden to Naruto when he said this Sakura. Is the POAL a burden? I am not sure. You would have to ask Naruto about that, but I think he put it this way to push her into doing something for once and then you get more development. Likewise for Naruto. He pushing them to be together in a subtle way.
Honestly, I like Sai for this. He is smarter than he looks when it comes to this stuff and it is almost like he is a NaruSaku supporter. Yeah he has said some things, but he did all for the sake of Naruto and Sakura and he always putting in his two cents in to a situation proving that just because you can't always understand a situation, does not mean you don't know what is going on.
I think this is why I am not bothered by whether or not Sai said "Sakura loves Sasuke" or that Sakura thought of Sasuke in that one scene. It's better to see how it plays out as a whole than individual moments.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 May 2012 - 07:31 PM.
#57
Posted 04 May 2012 - 11:03 PM
Maybe this is why he uses Sai as this third party negotiator. He is getting the ball rolling and he has pushed Naruto and Sakura into admitting they love each other. I think people take what Sai says too literally though and mostly he just says what people want to hear to push people. It's like how Sai said that the POAL was a burden to Naruto when he said this Sakura. Is the POAL a burden? I am not sure. You would have to ask Naruto about that, but I think he put it this way to push her into doing something for once and then you get more development. Likewise for Naruto. He pushing them to be together in a subtle way.
Honestly, I like Sai for this. He is smarter than he looks when it comes to this stuff and it is almost like he is a NaruSaku supporter. Yeah he has said some things, but he did all for the sake of Naruto and Sakura and he always putting in his two cents in to a situation proving that just because you can't always understand a situation, does not mean you don't know what is going on.
I think this is why I am not bothered by whether or not Sai said "Sakura loves Sasuke" or that Sakura thought of Sasuke in that one scene. It's better to see how it plays out as a whole than individual moments.
I think a lot of people realize this. For example, I brought this up to NH fans and they began ranting, calling Sai ignorant. Lol
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#58
Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:04 AM
I think what Kishimoto is trying to do is development. Let's be honest about this, if Sakura just all of a sudden started to love Naruto, then it won't be believable. Even if we did win, it wouldn't make sense. I rather show that development process happening. I am not wavered by it at all because to me, it's her getting over her feelings like I said. It's really hard to explain and I am trying the best I can, but I could not see this happen any other way.
Maybe my point would be clearer when Sakura and Naruto interact again and we get a romance scene for real between them. It would show what I mean more clearly.
I used wrong words by saying romantic, I should have said a hint to sakura's romatic feelings towards sasuke!
By the way before chapter 540 I was quite convinced with NS happening because until that time sakura herself never ever thought of sasuke in love way ut in chapter 540 when she was asked who she loves, sauske emerges! And because of that I want more development in NS! Before that if NS would have happened it was perfect we already have very high development on our side! But soon after confession the things slowly seem to be going off NS!I don't know about NH or SS because I care only about my pairing, but sakura's feelings shown in chapter 540 are surely questionable, that whether she loves naruto in romantic way even a bit or not!
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#59
Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:24 AM
As for the love nin at chapter 540, i don't take that as slap to ns for some reasons, the first being that sakura said there is someone else she loves, that could be naruto or sasuke, but for the sake of my point i will assume it was naruto who she loves at that point. then the guy says (manga reader translation, need a new one please??) "if it's someone that you like, then they're bound to be a great person" now english isn't my first language but i know for a fact the guy "they are" menaing naruto and sasuke. So the guy bassicly says sakura probably only loves good guys, that's what i get from the line he quoted, but let's assume she loved sasuke and now loves naruto. of course sasuke isn't a good guy so that's why sakura remembered him with darkness and all that stuff and became depressed, because she cares for sasuke at some extent, possibly like naruto (no yaoi pun intended XD) that's why she couldn't kill him after her confession, that's why she gets sad at things related to sasuke as naruto does, and that's what she lied in her confession, that she didn't care for sasuke anymore, and notice that in her confession she doesn't say the verb "love", but "care" so yeah...
What do you guys think of it? do you agree or disagree, i mean i want to see your views on this mini-theory thing
Edited by ichaichamaster, 05 May 2012 - 01:28 PM.
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#60
Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:36 PM
I agree, but the biggest issue with this is that people argue that since he doesn't know what he is talking about then he doesn't really see that Naruto actually loves Hinata or something along those lines and blah blah blah. It's always an issue when people want to be selective with what characters say and pick apart each word. NH fans say that Sai doesn't know anything when he told Sakura Naruto loves her, but say he 100% correct when he says that Sakura loves Sasuke.
So we have this moment where people say he is not a good source to follow love by...however, the fact that we got the scene where Sai basically asks Naruto if he loves Sakura and whether or not he told her kind of back up the fact that Sai knows Naruto loves Sakura. (Yeah, he says "really like" and not love, but I think this is semantics and "really like" and "love" kind of fall in the same category.)
But I fear we are going off topic on this. I think by the time Sakura chooses Naruto, she won't think of Sasuke as a lover anymore. Maybe as a former teammate, but once she chooses she is going to remain with that choice with no regrets.
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