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#41 Gravenimage

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 11:00 PM

QUOTE (crazyefra @ Jul 28 2011, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This chapter proved that Madara's "lie" to Sasuke is in fact the truth cool.gif ...Itachi did told Naruto to stop talking, so it might also be that he is hurt about Sasuke ignoring his (Itachi) will.


That very much is true Efra Madara used Sasuke's pain, his affection and devotion for Itachi, as well as the suffering he went through by his actions to guide him into a new darker path of revenge. He's not brainwashing him with a genjutsu of the sort all the choices Sasuke made them on his own free will which benefit Madara's plans.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:01 AM

Yeah Smiter it'll definitely be over sometime in 2012, any longer would just be ridiculous.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jul 28 2011, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah Smiter it'll definitely be over sometime in 2012, any longer would just be ridiculous.


You say this and then you look at something like Bleach that should have already ended.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:21 AM

QUOTE (TheOmegaMan @ Jul 28 2011, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You say this and then you look at something like Bleach that should have already ended.

nawww, just needs a new bullsh** no jutsu villain with ridiculous powers.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jul 28 2011, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah Smiter it'll definitely be over sometime in 2012, any longer would just be ridiculous.

Yeah, that's what I see happening. All the loose ends seem like they're being tied up at long last, so unless he really drags out the war, I doubt it'll go past next summer, at the latest. But we'll see, I just think it's hard to continue the plot after a world war concludes. I mean, how do you top that?

QUOTE (TheOmegaMan @ Jul 28 2011, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You say this and then you look at something like Bleach that should have already ended.

Bleach had way too many loose ends to tie up, so the comparison doesn't really fit. Every once in a while I'll watch/read an old episode/chapter of Bleach and still see stuff Kubo hasn't addressed. I remember thinking the plot would end with Aizen, but thinking, "Really? He's gonna end the plot without addressing Isshin's past, Sado's powers, Grimmjow's fate, and Yachiru's namesake (Kenpachi claimed he named Yachiru after the 'only person he ever admired', I shiver thinking of Kenpachi admiring someone wink.gif )?" I'm sure there's more I'm not thinking of, but I would have been royally ticked if the plot ended on that note.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (pharix @ Jul 28 2011, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nawww, just needs a new bullsh** no jutsu villain with ridiculous powers.


Right on the money cool.gif
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:18 AM

As I expected, this chapter was just all kinds of awesome! The fighting was awesome and even when the focus shifted to Itachi's past, Sasuke and Madara, it did so without all the angst that used to turn me away from anything that had to do with the Uchiha clan. Like others have mentioned, Nagato and Itachi just seems to content, as do Naruto and Bee. Its like an all out sparring session between Godzilla, Neo, Batman and Chuck Norris! cool.gif

Also, I am really looking forward to finding out what Itachi's gift is. Hopefully it will be something to counter and/or resist the sharingan, because as it stands now those things are damn near invinsible. happy.gif

Oh and that Sakura fanart is indeed kittening awesome! So awesome in fact, that it has now become my desktop wallpaper! wink.gif

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:43 AM

I liked this chapter. Nagato seems so much at ease, and the way he smiled at and expressed complete confidence in Naruto was my favorite part of the chapter. I think as soon as Naruto is able to reach Nagato and immobilize him he'll be freed from Kabuto and be released from this world. Itachi, although he's decided he made the right choice in leaving Sasuke to Naruto, still has so many burdens, I wonder if Naruto will just have to seal him away in the end.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 04:36 AM

QUOTE (Smiter @ Jul 28 2011, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Loved this chapter, and can't wait to see what happens next week. smile.gif I agree with those who think the manga is drawing to a close, we've seen a lot of questions answered recently, and Kishimoto is pulling out all the stops with the recent fights. Could we be seeing the end of Naruto sometime in 2012?


It might smiter but with Naruto's popularity they might run it until the 2020s

QUOTE (pharix @ Jul 29 2011, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nawww, just needs a new bullsh** no jutsu villain with ridiculous powers.


Jutsu doesn't apply to Bleach mellow.gif and any action manga series would prolong with that, prime example: Dragon Ball rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jul 29 2011, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I liked this chapter. Nagato seems so much at ease, and the way he smiled at and expressed complete confidence in Naruto was my favorite part of the chapter. I think as soon as Naruto is able to reach Nagato and immobilize him he'll be freed from Kabuto and be released from this world. Itachi, although he's decided he made the right choice in leaving Sasuke to Naruto, still has so many burdens, I wonder if Naruto will just have to seal him away in the end.


Well Itachi ALWAYS had faith in Naruto right?

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE (Smiter @ Jul 28 2011, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Loved this chapter, and can't wait to see what happens next week. smile.gif I agree with those who think the manga is drawing to a close, we've seen a lot of questions answered recently, and Kishimoto is pulling out all the stops with the recent fights. Could we be seeing the end of Naruto sometime in 2012?


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Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:46 AM

Once the war ends and the Sasuke conflict concluded, there isn't much to go on and continue the story anymore. Like Boom said alot of things are going to be revealed in this war. The only way to continue after the war is to introduce a completely new threat which I won't really like. Once Naruto becomes Hokage, Kishi should really wrap up the manga. Usually in mangas where the objective has been introduced from the start of the story and emphasized throughout, once that objective is met the story usually ends. Eg. Inuyasha - destroy the Shikon no Tama. FMA - Ed and Al getting their bodies back. Even Avatar: TLA - Defeat the firelord. I guess one piece would end once Luffy becomes the pirate king. For Bleach defeating Aizen wasn't the main focus at the start of the series when Ichigo got his powers. So Kubo could drag is as long as he can.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (TheOmegaMan @ Jul 28 2011, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You say this and then you look at something like Bleach that should have already ended.



QUOTE (pharix @ Jul 28 2011, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nawww, just needs a new bullsh** no jutsu villain with ridiculous powers.


I guess the Soul King and Royal Guard isn't important to the plot.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (Dreamer @ Jul 29 2011, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess the Soul King and Royal Guard isn't important to the plot.


You have no say in here Kubo, did you forgot how you tempted Kishimoto to the Troll side of the force? hm.png

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:10 PM

*ROFLS* Oh god, that strip is just pure epicness!!!! laugh.gif

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:16 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Jul 29 2011, 06:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once the war ends and the Sasuke conflict concluded, there isn't much to go on and continue the story anymore. Like Boom said alot of things are going to be revealed in this war. The only way to continue after the war is to introduce a completely new threat which I won't really like. Once Naruto becomes Hokage, Kishi should really wrap up the manga. Usually in mangas where the objective has been introduced from the start of the story and emphasized throughout, once that objective is met the story usually ends. Eg. Inuyasha - destroy the Shikon no Tama. FMA - Ed and Al getting their bodies back. Even Avatar: TLA - Defeat the firelord. I guess one piece would end once Luffy becomes the pirate king. For Bleach defeating Aizen wasn't the main focus at the start of the series when Ichigo got his powers. So Kubo could drag is as long as he can.


But Bleach doesn't have an objective mellow.gif and even though it's true that the the series should end after they complete their objective a series can be pestered into continuing, trust me on that editors and fans could keep egging on an artist to keep prolonging the the until they are satisfied. although I only know that happened to Dragon Ball so far headscratch.gif

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:37 PM

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his chapter proved that Madara's "lie" to Sasuke is in fact the truth cool.gif


No, he lied.

http://www.mangaread...hapter-399.html

It wasn't a "natura desaster", it was Madara who controlled the Nine-Tails and tried to take revenge on the village.
Imho that's a very important fact.
Madara also tried to let the story look like a campain of disempowerment for the Uchia ... wich is also not true.

Hm.
As more as I think about Madaras story, as more he becomes a victim of his Timeline to me. Seek power, no mater what it takes.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (lupina @ Jul 29 2011, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, he lied.

http://www.mangaread...hapter-399.html

It wasn't a "natura desaster", it was Madara who controlled the Nine-Tails and tried to take revenge on the village.
Imho that's a very important fact.
Madara also tried to let the story look like a campain of disempowerment for the Uchia ... wich is also not true.

Hm.
As more as I think about Madaras story, as more he becomes a victim of his Timeline to me. Seek power, no mater what it takes.


Its true that Madara said a couple of lies (the Kyuubi being a natural disaster, Madara saying that he wanted to protect Uchiha which it was complete bullcrap making himself look like a victim to Sasuke) however the Itachi part was true, the Uchiha rebellion that was true, Itachi turning traitor for the protection of the village and Sasuke that was true. His plan to make Sasuke look like a hero of the Uchiha clan by killing him that was true.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE (alexander @ Jul 29 2011, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have no say in here Kubo, did you forgot how you tempted Kishimoto to the Troll side of the force? hm.png

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Jul 29 2011, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But Bleach doesn't have an objective mellow.gif and even though it's true that the the series should end after they complete their objective a series can be pestered into continuing, trust me on that editors and fans could keep egging on an artist to keep prolonging the the until they are satisfied. although I only know that happened to Dragon Ball so far headscratch.gif


Did you read my post properly? I said Bleach didn't have a main focus since the start. And I'm fully aware of the editors pestering the mangaka to prolong the series but that's not the point of my post.

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 12:02 AM

No you said defeating Aizen wasn't the main objective that's different than saying there was no objective from the start

Edited by Phantom_999, 30 July 2011 - 12:02 AM.

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