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#41
Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:16 PM
#42
Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:28 PM
Or they could still be alive but not mentioned often.
I know the Senju clan was strong in the old era, but that reputation could clearly come to be thanks to select strong individuals like Hashirama and Tobirama. After they passed their level of power representation could potentially be diminished.
Let's say that the Uchiha clan was still alive, they would be considered a very powerful clan, right? Let's say that suddenly all of the members capable of using the sharingan died. Their reputation and overall power would surely go down, right? I'm sure that not all the Uchiha were able to awaken the sharingan.
#43
Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:40 PM
That's a good point, if it were part 1 sakura and sasuke asked her to kill a random girl she would of probably done it.
#44
Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:30 PM
I really do not think so . During her confession she would have said anything to get Sasuke to stay , but from saying to actually doing is a long way . I really do not think that even part 1 Sakura would actually have killed any1 for Sasuke .
#45
Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:31 PM
On the chapter its going along the lines i thought it might be.
The development of Hashirama and Madaras friendship was solid especially as long as they didnt know their names, as long as the titles of clans and such werent put on them they could be friends. But like Sasuke who allowed the name of his clan and its honor to influence him to vengance for its loss and percieved persecution Madara made the same choice.
Hashirama chose to put aside clan and name in order to make peace, just as Naruto has done embracing Sasuke not as an uchiha but as a friend.
It looks like the final abttle will be Sasuke and Naruto full power for the right to see whose philosophy holds true. The notion of of the cycle of hatred and vengance or the notion of peace and brotherhood.
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#46
Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:39 PM
Hmm, she did say whe would do ANYTHING..... but i guess killing someone is a bit drastic.
I don't ever underestimate her current character but i do have tendencies to look down apun her part 1 character a lot.
#47
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:07 PM
I don't ever underestimate her current character but i do have tendencies to look down apun her part 1 character a lot.
everyone uses that line to get someone to listen to them XD
she would never kill anyone innocent for sasuke ever. period.
not part 1 and totally not part 2.
#48
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:11 PM
#49
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:48 PM
I know the Senju clan was strong in the old era, but that reputation could clearly come to be thanks to select strong individuals like Hashirama and Tobirama. After they passed their level of power representation could potentially be diminished.
Let's say that the Uchiha clan was still alive, they would be considered a very powerful clan, right? Let's say that suddenly all of the members capable of using the sharingan died. Their reputation and overall power would surely go down, right? I'm sure that not all the Uchiha were able to awaken the sharingan.
I think it's obvious that the Senju is an overall powerful clan.
First of all, Senju DNA is everyone's favourite candy nowadays. They're direct descendants of Rikudo. And it is said that most Uchihas were elites, and they were Konoha's most powerful clan before the massacre. The Senju were stronger. That means that somehow, they got wiped out.
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#50
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:51 PM
First of all, Senju DNA is everyone's favourite candy nowadays. They're direct descendants of Rikudo. And it is said that most Uchihas were elites, and they were Konoha's most powerful clan before the massacre. The Senju were stronger. That means that somehow, they got wiped out.
Best to wait after the flashback ends. When Hashirama reaches to the point where he dies, perhaps Tobirama will fill some other events like the downfall of Senju, assuming he lasted long enough to see them disappear.
#51
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:03 PM
First of all, Senju DNA is everyone's favourite candy nowadays. They're direct descendants of Rikudo. And it is said that most Uchihas were elites, and they were Konoha's most powerful clan before the massacre. The Senju were stronger. That means that somehow, they got wiped out.
They are all working minimum wage jobs to pay off the Huge debt Tsunade built up during her decade or two long gambling trip....lol They have to be extinct, if they are still around then Kishi deserves a good slap for treating the other clan in this centuries old fued as insignicant. 'The will of Fire burns strongly in you Naruto, and also in those few hundred Senju clan members who we failed to mention up until now'..lol
Actually talking of Will of Fire, I wonder if Hirashima coined that phrase because of Madara who is from the clan known for their Fire jutsu, and his dream of uniting the country....It's always been amusing how the land of fire is the only country that doesn't have many ninja's specialising in the element their land is fmous for (well they didn't until that entire platoon of Saratobi clan members popped up recently.)
#52
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:32 PM
I do have to wonder once again, how did the Senju die out? It seems that they were the stronger of the two clans here, yet we have no idea how they disapeared, and I have a feeling Kishi won't tell us because he only really cares to tell us the Uchiha's history.
Sasuke because he was a kid that "my brother died my life makes no sense anymore".
#53
Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:15 PM
Hashirama: no.
Tobirama: what-? but!
Hashirama: I said NO. *death stare*......okay Madara...what do I gotta do to get you to trust us again?
Madara: ....eeh...kill your brother...or yourself...then we're cool~
Hashirama:......on second thought.
#54
Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:19 PM
Hashirama: no.
Tobirama: what-? but!
Hashirama: I said NO. *death stare*......okay Madara...what do I gotta do to get you to trust us again?
Madara: ....eeh...kill your brother...or yourself...then we're cool~
Hashirama:......on second thought.
Lol.
You know, it's sad because it seems like Hashirama is to be blamed for not saving Uchiha name as well as causing Madara to plan the ultimate plan for the future. It all could have prevented if he just kill him there. It reminds me on how Hiruzen could have prevent a lot of moments concerning Orochimaru.
#55
Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:51 PM
You know, it's sad because it seems like Hashirama is to be blamed for not saving Uchiha name as well as causing Madara to plan the ultimate plan for the future. It all could have prevented if he just kill him there. It reminds me on how Hiruzen could have prevent a lot of moments concerning Orochimaru.
Just another thing that Naruto has in common with Hashirama , both will give anyone a second chance to redemption
#56
Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:16 PM
First of all, Senju DNA is everyone's favourite candy nowadays. They're direct descendants of Rikudo. And it is said that most Uchihas were elites, and they were Konoha's most powerful clan before the massacre. The Senju were stronger. That means that somehow, they got wiped out.
I'm not going to interfere with that term but in actuality it's Hashirama DNA. I think people adopted the term Senju DNA because is had a better flow but in the end this is exclusive about Hashirama, not the entire Senju clan. I'll still call it Senju DNA though, I got used to it.
I'm not denying the overall strength of the Senju was huge back in the past but I still think Hashirama was a significant factor in their eventual superiority. Before Hashirama became the head of the Senju they always remained equal to the Uchiha. It was only after Hashirama's rise that the Uchiha started to loose their previous momentum and slowly became inferior.
I think the Uchiha were considered elite as a whole, not that most individuals were elite. And such eliteness came from the select members that were able to use the sharingan.
#57
Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:44 AM
Agree with everything you said here.
About the chapter, the only thing I can say is that the pace was fast and entertaining sadly the Uchiha crap is annoying.
#58
Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:04 AM
god is sweet.......
courage,,,,,,,,,,,
doesn't always roar.............
sometimescourage is quite voice at the
end of the day saying,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
'll try again tomorrow"
#59
Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:39 AM
I'm pretty sure its because back during the Wave arc when Kakashi reviled his Sharingan, Sasuke said that the Shaingan was something that awakened in only a few members of the Uchiha clan.
#60
Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:52 AM
I seriously doubt this. Just because she was a little crazed over Sasuke doesn't necessarily mean she would of killed some random person for him back then. She's never been like that at all. I don't even know why people think she would. Her confession didn't even hint at this nor did her actions back then either. It just meant she would defect from Konoha with him. That's about it.
On the chapter its going along the lines i thought it might be.
The development of Hashirama and Madaras friendship was solid especially as long as they didnt know their names, as long as the titles of clans and such werent put on them they could be friends. But like Sasuke who allowed the name of his clan and its honor to influence him to vengance for its loss and percieved persecution Madara made the same choice.
Hashirama chose to put aside clan and name in order to make peace, just as Naruto has done embracing Sasuke not as an uchiha but as a friend.
It looks like the final abttle will be Sasuke and Naruto full power for the right to see whose philosophy holds true. The notion of of the cycle of hatred and vengance or the notion of peace and brotherhood.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS! I couldn't of said it better myself. I really don't understand where "she'd kill for Sasuke in Part 1" came from anyway. Nothing she does in Part 1 even suggests this at all. You nailed her character perfectly with your post though. Nice!
Edited by StriderC, 20 March 2013 - 03:55 AM.
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