The only pattern I notice here is that all the girls in this series are hated for liking Sasuke. Sasuke, Sasuke, Sasuke, Sasuke, Sasuke....why is he so popular? Why? People say it is because of this "cool guy" persona, but why do they ignore all the abuse he has given to so many that didn't deserve and even now to this day?
What am I missing? How can this guy make every girl, no matter who they are, get so much hate all because they fall "in love" with him. How do all the girls fall in love with him when he gives them nothing to fall in love with?
What sort of delusion are girls seeing today? No offense to the females here, but what the hell is up with the girls falling in the love with the biggest douchebags on the planet? The same girls then complain on why they can't have romance or nice guys in their life, but they always fall for the wrong people. Not that I can say much seeing how I seem to always fall for the girls who apparently hate affection so much and even just hugging them is considered rape to them, but...what the hell happened?
A time ago, it used to be that Prince Charming was the go to guy and now....now all I see is "how cool Sasuke is" and how "he is so sexy" but the dude gives no craps and would rather be a loner the rest of his life. Yet if I tried to be that way, I get insulted and called a bad guy.
Why? Why is all this happening? Why couldn't NaruSaku be together and actually be a happy loving family? Why did it have to be this shallow, one dimensional, family drama that leads to nothing and NOBODY learns a lesson in anything?
Why are some people okay with this and even think it is amazing writing? Why is Karin and Naruto moving on seen as strength, but Sakura moving on seen as weakness? Why....
Why don't I belong in this world any more?
My idea of love is when you truly care for someone. When you're willing to anything for them and in turn they are the same for you. Where you want to be in their arms and have nights where it is just the two of you. Where you can have romantic and sexy night and not be ashamed of it. Where you trust each other so much that you can tell them anything and not be ashamed or afraid that they will think negatively of you. Like someone put an angel on earth to save you and just you. Where you go through anything and be happy. Politics, wars, religion, none of it mattered...just the two of you.
Apparently "true love" today is living in fear every day, neglect, anger, frustration...."sex is bad and even thinking about having sex makes you a rapist," and living in a fake delusional fantasy world where in real life you are so neglected that even the other person just spitting in your direction is more romantic than anything. You're so thirsty for attention you become obsessive and craving for even a glance.
I'll be honest...this world really makes me want to put a bullet in my head sometimes. I know that sounds dark, but if this is truly what the world has come to, then there is no point in living it because apparently me being the "nice, loving, hopeless romantic guy" makes me the biggest "Sexist, rapist, misogynist, women hating man on the planet," but a guy who hits you, calls you names, tells you to get back in the kitchen, doesn't give a kitten whether you live or die is the "new age hottie" that every girl wants to bang harder than a drum.
I'm sorry for being so dark about this, but this is all I have been feeling lately and this entire Naruto fandom is making me feel like life and love are nothing more than words to justify the cruelest reasons why people do the most disgusting acts against each other.
Being in love used to mean something.....now it means nothing. People used to say that Gay Marriage would have killed the sanctity of love and such....no, it was already bleeding and dead on the ground before any of that was a thought...and these new age "love affairs" are the downfall of it all.
yeup...the entire series is full of "terrible women" according to Kishimoto.
There's a lot to unpack here and my better judgment is telling me to leave this alone, but I just want to touch on a few points. I think a lot of the appeal for certain ships is just the fact that they're aesthetically appealing. Like, SS is a visually appealing couple. Same with Zutara. Are they the logical pairings based on development in their respective works? Nope. But from a solely visual standpoint, I think that's a big draw. And also, I think a lot of people are really good at compartmentalizing stuff and ignoring actual character traits in favor of shipping a couple for whatever reason they want. Why else are there people who ship Sansa with Littlefinger or talk about how Ramsay is attractive?
On another note, we really need to be cognizant of the fine line between being a nice, genuine person and being a Nice Guytm.
The reason I say they make no sense is because Sasuke bailed on Konoha was because of bonds. He was forced by the system into a team and despite his desires to the contrary, ended up forming bonds with this teammates. He lated complains those bonds hindered him.
So, naturally, the first thing he does upon going completely solo is form a new team.
Taka's creation, especially at the time he does it, makes no sense in light of his personal experience and motivation. The reason for this was to aid in his pursuit of Itachi, but they never do that. Itachi comes to him and no one interferes in the fight.
I'll grant you that there are things he could have done to make it better and that potential does exist, but I think their entire introduction would have to be redone to deal with glaring issue of Sasuke repeating an experience he just openly stated was a problem. But with one exception, they were always characters in search of role and that's generally not a good place to be.
It appears the real divide between you and I on this is I'm more focused on what they were when I say they should not exist and your more focused on what they could have been in the hands of a better author. As I said, I'll agree that they could have been much better than they ended up being.
I'm rather cynical about it at this point, but I'm inclined to believe this is just a case of Kishi not paying attention to the details or internal logic of his manga. Someone said (or he thought), "Hey! I need a vehicle to give my man Sasuke more page time." So he gave him a team.
Edited by Narufan85, 14 July 2015 - 12:56 AM.