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[MangaReader]

God you're telling me. I can just hear the SasuSaku fans screaming victory over that ONE bloody panel. It's gonna be a nightmare.

If they do, they've got one little panel that's still one-sided to our 400+ page development(might be 300, cause I don't go back and count just to get every little detail)

[Manara]

Oh God, here I go again with that theme.

a friend of mine found the script of the interview of Kishi in Japanese and translated to English in google.

So, the error comes from the Japanese script?

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Original Japanese:
サスケの人
「その後サスケとか鷹はどうなっていくのか」

岸
「今回のダンゾウとの戦いでサスケは段々目つきが悪くなって行くんですけど
更に目つきが悪くなり…そこで鷹のメンバーともいろいろあったりして
サスケが方向性が決定着く戦いになるかな…」

サスケの人
「ちょっと言えないところもあると思うので」

岸
「そうですね、ちょっと昨日担当さんと打ち合わせして
こんな感じでやるかって感じなのでまだあんまり決まってない
カッコウつけて言ってますけど…サスケはこんな感じです」

427 名前：マロン名無しさん[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/20(日) 01:04:45 ID:???
今帰った

恋愛バレ

サクラの人の質問
「次週からの展開も気になるところなんですけど
ナルトに対するサクラのちょっとこれまでと違った感じでとても気遣ってて…
サスケくんに対する想いだとか」

岸
「サクラは…サスケ…サスケなんで、ナルトが近くにいるんでナルトも
気になっているんでしょうけどやっぱりサスケっていうのがあるんで、
そん中でアイツ結構驕ってるんで
ナルトが自分を好きだと言う気持ちを利用して言っちゃったり、
好きだとかナルトに言っちゃって
逆に…　意外となんかしたたかな感じで、正直に女の子っぽいの描こうと思ってて
そいで…ああいうキャラになったんですけど…まあ…これからちょっと意地を
見せるところを描こうかなていう
一応一応僕の中でヒロイン的な位置にありますので、
読者の方にヒロインっぽくないって散々言われたので
ちょっとヒロインっぽいとこ見せてやろうかなっていう
ヒナタヒナタって言うからヒナタじゃないよって言う」

サクラの人
「ナルトを抱きしめるみたい〇×△初めて見てなんかちょっとドキドキなんですよ」

岸
「まあ結構嫌なヤツは嫌なヤツなんですけど、これからちょっと上げるっていうか
そんな感じで描いてたんですけど…はい」

ナルトの人
「ナルトは火影になれますか？」

岸
「火影…そうですね、それ本となったらね…え…でも…なるんじゃないですかね？」

シカマルの人
「おい！いいんですか？そんなこと言っちゃって」

岸
「でも～…いやどうしたらいいんだろうね」

ナルトの人
「じゃあナルトの火影の前にサクラちゃんが火影になっちゃいますか？」

岸
「あ、それはない…それはない」

871 名前：マロン名無しさん[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/20(日) 03:30:49 ID:???
寝る前にもう一つ
ナルトのバレがあったから残しとくね

ナルトの活躍はラストの方
それまでにもう一回修行をはさむ

---------------------------------
Translated into English in google

Sasuke who
"How will then Sasuke or hawk to happen"

Coast
"In the battle with Sasuke Danzou, but this is going to look bad gradually
The worse you look there is so much more ... to where both members of the hawk
I will get to fight a determined direction of the floor. "

Sasuke who
"I think some even say so little"

Coast
"Well, yesterday for a little meeting with staff
I feel so much not decided yet whether I'll like this
I said I put Sasuke looks like cuckoos ... "

427 Name: Nameless marron [sage] Posted on: 2009/12/20 (Sun) 01:04:45 ID:???
Now back

Love Bale

Question of the cherry
"I'd worry that we will expand from next week
Very fearful to ever feel a little differently for Naruto and Sakura ...
I love it for Sasuke "

Coast
"Sakura ... Sasuke ... Sasuke Nde, Nde Naruto and Naruto are near
But after all I've got a called Sasuke would've been anxious,
Nde I'm pretty haughty guy in the Son
Or else I feel like saying to use him like Naruto,
I got to say I like Naruto or
On the other hand ... feeling something surprisingly sturdy, and I like to paint the girl honestly
The Soi ... I'd like my character was ... well ... a little nasty now
A show where you draw Teiu
We are right in my position once and once heroine,
I was told it seem like terrible heroine readers
And called my mantle and this looks like a little heroine
I'm not saying because he told me Hinata Hinata - Hinata "

Sakura who
"Yes Naruto, like hugging a little nervous that I × I first saw something △"

Coast
"Well, pretty bad guy, though I hate that guy, I mean little now raise
I'd like that ... Yes I drew "

Naruto people
"How can I become Hokage, Naruto?"

Coast
"Yes Hokage, and it will become like this ... but ... it ... What I Is not going to be?"

People Shikamaru
"Hey! Is it good? Say I got that."

Coast
"But ... I guess I do - no,"

Naruto people
"What Cha become Hokage Sakura-chan Naruto Hokage before then?"

Coast
"Oh, it's not ... it is not"

871 Name: Nameless marron [sage] Posted on: 2009/12/20 (Sun) 03:30:49 ID:???
One more thing before going to bed
Toku I left because there was a naruto spoiler

Naruto is who he last
Caught, once more training so far

[Nate River]

Oh God, here I go again with that theme.

a friend of mine found the script of the interview of Kishi in Japanese and translated to English in google.

So, the error comes from the Japanese script?

----------------

Original Japanese:
サスケの人
「その後サスケとか鷹はどうなっていくのか」

岸
「今回のダンゾウとの戦いでサスケは段々目つきが悪くなって行くんですけど
更に目つきが悪くなり…そこで鷹のメンバーともいろいろあったりして
サスケが方向性が決定着く戦いになるかな…」

サスケの人
「ちょっと言えないところもあると思うので」

岸
「そうですね、ちょっと昨日担当さんと打ち合わせして
こんな感じでやるかって感じなのでまだあんまり決まってない
カッコウつけて言ってますけど…サスケはこんな感じです」

427 名前：マロン名無しさん[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/20(日) 01:04:45 ID:???
今帰った

恋愛バレ

サクラの人の質問
「次週からの展開も気になるところなんですけど
ナルトに対するサクラのちょっとこれまでと違った感じでとても気遣ってて…
サスケくんに対する想いだとか」

岸
「サクラは…サスケ…サスケなんで、ナルトが近くにいるんでナルトも
気になっているんでしょうけどやっぱりサスケっていうのがあるんで、
そん中でアイツ結構驕ってるんで
ナルトが自分を好きだと言う気持ちを利用して言っちゃったり、
好きだとかナルトに言っちゃって
逆に…　意外となんかしたたかな感じで、正直に女の子っぽいの描こうと思ってて
そいで…ああいうキャラになったんですけど…まあ…これからちょっと意地を
見せるところを描こうかなていう
一応一応僕の中でヒロイン的な位置にありますので、
読者の方にヒロインっぽくないって散々言われたので
ちょっとヒロインっぽいとこ見せてやろうかなっていう
ヒナタヒナタって言うからヒナタじゃないよって言う」

サクラの人
「ナルトを抱きしめるみたい〇×△初めて見てなんかちょっとドキドキなんですよ」

岸
「まあ結構嫌なヤツは嫌なヤツなんですけど、これからちょっと上げるっていうか
そんな感じで描いてたんですけど…はい」

ナルトの人
「ナルトは火影になれますか？」

岸
「火影…そうですね、それ本となったらね…え…でも…なるんじゃないですかね？」

シカマルの人
「おい！いいんですか？そんなこと言っちゃって」

岸
「でも～…いやどうしたらいいんだろうね」

ナルトの人
「じゃあナルトの火影の前にサクラちゃんが火影になっちゃいますか？」

岸
「あ、それはない…それはない」

871 名前：マロン名無しさん[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/20(日) 03:30:49 ID:???
寝る前にもう一つ
ナルトのバレがあったから残しとくね

ナルトの活躍はラストの方
それまでにもう一回修行をはさむ

---------------------------------
Translated into English in google

Sasuke who
"How will then Sasuke or hawk to happen"

Coast
"In the battle with Sasuke Danzou, but this is going to look bad gradually
The worse you look there is so much more ... to where both members of the hawk
I will get to fight a determined direction of the floor. "

Sasuke who
"I think some even say so little"

Coast
"Well, yesterday for a little meeting with staff
I feel so much not decided yet whether I'll like this
I said I put Sasuke looks like cuckoos ... "

427 Name: Nameless marron [sage] Posted on: 2009/12/20 (Sun) 01:04:45 ID:???
Now back

Love Bale

Question of the cherry
"I'd worry that we will expand from next week
Very fearful to ever feel a little differently for Naruto and Sakura ...
I love it for Sasuke "

Coast
"Sakura ... Sasuke ... Sasuke Nde, Nde Naruto and Naruto are near
But after all I've got a called Sasuke would've been anxious,
Nde I'm pretty haughty guy in the Son
Or else I feel like saying to use him like Naruto,
I got to say I like Naruto or
On the other hand ... feeling something surprisingly sturdy, and I like to paint the girl honestly
The Soi ... I'd like my character was ... well ... a little nasty now
A show where you draw Teiu
We are right in my position once and once heroine,
I was told it seem like terrible heroine readers
And called my mantle and this looks like a little heroine
I'm not saying because he told me Hinata Hinata - Hinata "

Sakura who
"Yes Naruto, like hugging a little nervous that I × I first saw something △"

Coast
"Well, pretty bad guy, though I hate that guy, I mean little now raise
I'd like that ... Yes I drew "

Naruto people
"How can I become Hokage, Naruto?"

Coast
"Yes Hokage, and it will become like this ... but ... it ... What I Is not going to be?"

People Shikamaru
"Hey! Is it good? Say I got that."

Coast
"But ... I guess I do - no,"

Naruto people
"What Cha become Hokage Sakura-chan Naruto Hokage before then?"

Coast
"Oh, it's not ... it is not"

871 Name: Nameless marron [sage] Posted on: 2009/12/20 (Sun) 03:30:49 ID:???
One more thing before going to bed
Toku I left because there was a naruto spoiler

Naruto is who he last
Caught, once more training so far

Wait.....so it was run through a google translator? No wonder the grammar (in English) is so bad.

[Manara]

Wait.....so it was run through a google translator? No wonder the grammar (in English) is so bad.

Yes, but the important is:

岸
「サクラは…サスケ…サスケなんで、ナルトが近くにいるんでナルトも
気になっているんでしょうけどやっぱりサスケっていうのがあるんで、
そん中でアイツ結構驕ってるんで
ナルトが自分を好きだと言う気持ちを利用して言っちゃったり、
好きだとかナルトに言っちゃって
逆に…　意外となんかしたたかな感じで、正直に女の子っぽいの描こうと思ってて
そいで…ああいうキャラになったんですけど…まあ…これからちょっと意地を
見せるところを描こうかなていう
一応一応僕の中でヒロイン的な位置にありますので、
読者の方にヒロインっぽくないって散々言われたので
ちょっとヒロインっぽいとこ見せてやろうかなっていう
ヒナタヒナタって言うからヒナタじゃないよって言う」

This paragraph seems to be just the answer by Kishimoto. And the people here
found the speech of three people in there.

The question is: There is another Japanese script?

[ciardha]

I'm afraid your friend found what might be a reverse translated version of the summary. I'm seeing the same issue with the bad summary where Kishimoto's words and questioners words are mixed together. It's a bit less obvious than the summary though. I'm not seeing so many obvious inserted words, but there's still the issue of muddled questions and answers. There's an attempt to break things apart but it's not done fully. It's either a reverse translation of the summary or a really sloppy transcript and a bit of a telling omission of his complete statement about his annoyance at the Sakura bashing letters that praised Hinata to the skies. This was similar to what was done in the bad summary, except the whole statement was altered to make it look like Kishimoto was saying Hinata was more heroic than Sakura, etc... This seems to just have a foreshortened version of Kishimoto's statement...

Sad thing is I think the real thing was quickly disappeared by those that bash Sakura that unfortunately have control of most of the western general Naruto forums... I know they disappeared the sasunaru shipper's accurate transcript pretty quickly.

Edited by ciardha, 01 June 2011 - 01:04 AM.

[Manara]

I'm afraid your friend found a reverse translated version of the summary, I'm seeing the same issue with the bad summary where Kishimoto's words and questioners words are mixed together. It's a bit less obvious than the summary though. I'm not seeing inserted words, but there's still the issue of muddled questions and answers.

perhaps... Could someone, somehow, find the actual script?

[Manara]

she find it here http://www.narutofor...ad.php?t=576454

[Naty]

I'm the friend.
I found the script on the NF, isn't it right? Argh, so they're just like the people from NBDB (the major Naruto brazilians comunity), always making the things look more and more NaruHina and SasuSaku

Edited by Naty, 01 June 2011 - 01:25 AM.

[ciardha]

I'm the friend.
I found the script on the NF, isn't it right? Argh, so they're just like the people from NBDB (the major Naruto brazilians comunity), always making the things look more and more NaruHina and SasuSaku

In a nutshell, yes.

You have to wonder what they'll when Naruto and Sakura do get together as a permanent couple- that's a rhetorical question. I have a good idea already, from other fandoms.

[Manara]

Sad thing is I think the real thing was quickly disappeared by those that bash Sakura that unfortunately have control of most of the western general Naruto forums... I know they disappeared the sasunaru shipper's accurate transcript pretty quickly.

that is really sad. I personally believe in you people. But even the NaruSaku fandom in Brazil are very in low self esteem to believe anything without a real proof.

[Naty]

In a nutshell, yes.

You have to wonder what they'll when Naruto and Sakura do get together as a permanent couple- that's a rhetorical question. I have a good idea already, from other fandoms.

Me too. But I do know some people that will never believe in NaruSaku, Naruto and Sakura could marry, have children and they still will say "They are just good friends", "Kishimoto is a troll. There isn't any NaruSaku moment in all manga", "Not because Sakura has a blond child that it means Naruto is the father, even if the child is a Naruto 2" "You know, Sakura could just be the nanny" Etc.

[Manara]

Me too. But I do know some people that will never believe in NaruSaku, Naruto and Sakura could marry, have children and they still will say "They are just good friends", "Kishimoto is a troll. There isn't any NaruSaku moment in all manga", "Not because Sakura has a blond child that it means Naruto is the father, even if the child is a Naruto 2" "You know, Sakura could just be the nanny" Etc.

Just LOL

[jmf]

Was that the real interview cause he says sakura is still in love with sasuke and what does haughty even mean?

[Naty]

The translation from NF:
A question about Sakura
"Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto...
How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?"

Kishimoto-sensei:
"As for Sakura... Sasuke... what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.
Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy.
She used Naruto's love for her and told him she loved him.
On the contrary.... I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.
So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata' "
The basic premise is: Sakura loves Sasuke more than Naruto. She hasn't been that heroin-ish, but Kishimoto-sensei will try to change that.

About Sakura:
"When I first saw her hugging Naruto, my heart beat throbbed a bit."

Kishimoto-sensei:
"Well, an unpleasant person is an unpleasant person, but the feeling I was trying to depict is that you could say "after this, [my opinion of her] has gone up a bit... yeah"

[Manara]

The translation from NF:
A question about Sakura
"Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto...
How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?"

Kishimoto-sensei:
"As for Sakura... Sasuke... what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.
Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy.
She used Naruto's love for her and told him she loved him.
On the contrary.... I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.
So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata' "
The basic premise is: Sakura loves Sasuke more than Naruto. She hasn't been that heroin-ish, but Kishimoto-sensei will try to change that.

About Sakura:
"When I first saw her hugging Naruto, my heart beat throbbed a bit."

Kishimoto-sensei:
"Well, an unpleasant person is an unpleasant person, but the feeling I was trying to depict is that you could say "after this, [my opinion of her] has gone up a bit... yeah"

That makes no sense!

Edited by Manara, 01 June 2011 - 02:35 AM.

[Manara]

Kishi seems like a drunk, asking questions to himself. And there is no chance of him denigrate their own character that way!

Of course this translation're wrong.

[Naty]

That make no sense!

yes, I agree with you. But maybe Kishi-sensei start talking about the fandom opinion... And his own opinion start in "On the contrary."

I don't know. It's crazy and vage, it could really be wath Kishi said or the first paragraphs are other person words...
On the Google translator there isn't any "Kishimoto-sensei said"

Edited by Naty, 01 June 2011 - 02:41 AM.

[Super Boom]

Kishimoto-sensei:
"As for Sakura... Sasuke... what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.
Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy.
She used Naruto's love for her and told him she loved him.
On the contrary.... I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.
So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata' "
The basic premise is: Sakura loves Sasuke more than Naruto. She hasn't been that heroin-ish, but Kishimoto-sensei will try to change that.

I don't know, if it's from NF I'd be a little wary about it. Most people on that site seem to ship NaruHina, so they have something obvious to gain by posting a mistranslation.
I guess I've seen three or four versions of this interview floating around the Internet, so I'm taking the whole thing with the grain of salt. So far, the only constant I've seen is the "honest but stubborn" comment, but even that's been shifted around a bit. Bottom line is, even if this is the correct translation, there's always the possibility that Kishi is just trolling. I've heard stories that Tite Kubo has done it a few times, so I wouldn't be too surprised. And considering how Sakura herself claims to want to join Sasuke in the manga after that interview took place, it seems fairly possible that Kishi is trying to avoid ruining the suspense. I mean, the scene wouldn't be the same if Kishi told us that she was over Sasuke.
By the way, welcome to H & E, Naty!

[Naty]

I don't know, if it's from NF I'd be a little wary about it. Most people on that site seem to ship NaruHina, so they have something obvious to gain by posting a mistranslation.
I guess I've seen three or four versions of this interview floating around the Internet, so I'm taking the whole thing with the grain of salt. So far, the only constant I've seen is the "honest but stubborn" comment, but even that's been shifted around a bit. Bottom line is, even if this is the correct translation, there's always the possibility that Kishi is just trolling. I've heard stories that Tite Kubo has done it a few times, so I wouldn't be too surprised. And considering how Sakura herself claims to want to join Sasuke in the manga after that interview took place, it seems fairly possible that Kishi is trying to avoid ruining the suspense. I mean, the scene wouldn't be the same if Kishi told us that she was over Sasuke.
By the way, welcome to H & E, Naty!

Thanks
That makes sense. Kishi always a troll on interviews. I think it's a mangaka/author thing.

[ciardha]

That makes no sense!

Yep, that's one of the many fake versions on Narutofan. Like I said it's not coherent, people's questions are attributed to Kishimoto, etc... The only reliable versions is by the sasunaru shipper (who didn't particularly care for Sakura, but was disgusted at the fake and incoherent versions floating around) who was actually there. No surprise it was quickly disappeared from NF...

Boom, that was Sakura's tactic to get close enough to Sasuke to kill him, which she tries for the first time in the very next chapter. And if she was actually still in love with him she would have thought to act like she did back when they were in Team 7. Instead she's completely devoid of any affection whatsoever. She's blunt and emotionless. That's a major point, it didn't even occur to her- she didn't even think about it making Sasuke suspicious if she wasn't all lovey-dovey.... That's pretty obviously showing what she told Naruto was true (although she was being overly optimistic in thinking she was completely over any emotional connection to Sasuke) and what Sai said about her moving on from Sasuke and falling in love with Naruto. Note as well the difference in part 2 in how she is with Naruto vs how she reacts to Sasuke. With Naruto she smiles, blushes, flirts, teases, comforts, embraces, confesses her love, with Sasuke her reaction is fear, sadness and depression.... hmm, sure does look like love with Naruto, not love with Sasuke to me...