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QUOTE (tricksie @ Oct 12 2011, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me too. It's not so much about the nonsense Hinata stuff, because no new ground was covered there. It think it's even a stretch to say she resolved things. It was just a throwaway moment between her and Naruto.
I'm pissed that Sakura is off fighting somewhere — FIGHTING! — and we aren't shown it. This isn't a little defensive move like in the medic tent. She's engaged in full-on fights!! I honestly can't remember the last time she was in a battle, and now it's pushed to the side. How long have we waited for her to be in battle!?!
As for Madara->Tobi->Obito, I don't know how it could be Obito. He's a good guy. But it could be another villain using Obito's body. Such as Madara's brother. What if he faked his death, then took on Madara's identity, finishing his brother's work? Because Madara/Tobi had waaaaay more knowledge of the Uchiha clan than Obito would ever have been given. (And especially a child killed in a battle at 12, he would have no reason to hate Konoha on the level that Madara did. And Obito would have no opportunity, after his "death," to go back and amass the amount of knowledge Madara had.) So I think it can't possibly be Obito. I think the name/crushed eye similarity is meant to confuse. Because whoever is behind Madara's mask, must have been intimately involved with the clan. So it had to have been either Madara or one of his contemporaries (like his brother).
I wonder if it could be Madara's attached his soul to Obito's body (somehow through Orochimaru's rejuvenation techniques, like Oro wanted to do with himself to Sasuke's body), and Kabuto is resurrecting Madara's original body. So basically, Madara's true body is a puppet, while his soul lives on in Obito's body. It would make sense — there's never been a good reason why Orochimaru was involved with Madara's hand-picked Akatsuki. But if his medic skills were necessary to keep Madara alive, then Orochimaru would have been a handy guy to have.
Still bummed though.
I'm pissed that Sakura is off fighting somewhere — FIGHTING! — and we aren't shown it. This isn't a little defensive move like in the medic tent. She's engaged in full-on fights!! I honestly can't remember the last time she was in a battle, and now it's pushed to the side. How long have we waited for her to be in battle!?!
As for Madara->Tobi->Obito, I don't know how it could be Obito. He's a good guy. But it could be another villain using Obito's body. Such as Madara's brother. What if he faked his death, then took on Madara's identity, finishing his brother's work? Because Madara/Tobi had waaaaay more knowledge of the Uchiha clan than Obito would ever have been given. (And especially a child killed in a battle at 12, he would have no reason to hate Konoha on the level that Madara did. And Obito would have no opportunity, after his "death," to go back and amass the amount of knowledge Madara had.) So I think it can't possibly be Obito. I think the name/crushed eye similarity is meant to confuse. Because whoever is behind Madara's mask, must have been intimately involved with the clan. So it had to have been either Madara or one of his contemporaries (like his brother).
I wonder if it could be Madara's attached his soul to Obito's body (somehow through Orochimaru's rejuvenation techniques, like Oro wanted to do with himself to Sasuke's body), and Kabuto is resurrecting Madara's original body. So basically, Madara's true body is a puppet, while his soul lives on in Obito's body. It would make sense — there's never been a good reason why Orochimaru was involved with Madara's hand-picked Akatsuki. But if his medic skills were necessary to keep Madara alive, then Orochimaru would have been a handy guy to have.
Still bummed though.
QUOTE (ciardha @ Oct 12 2011, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I liked the panel with Naruto and Sakura- notice how it was completely centered on them fighting as partners in the scene: they are guarding each others backs, etc...
It reminded me of Minato and Kushina fighting the Kyuubi as partners, how Mito fought as a partner with Hashirama to defeat Madara and the Kyuubi, even Chiyo using her son and daughter-in-law puppets and the reference to how they fought enemies together, and Jiraiya and Tsunade fighting Orochimaru together
I was certain from "Tobi's" reaction to Kabuto showing him what was in the coffin that it was Madara's real body. My guess has been that Tobi/Madara is Obito's body with a fragment of Madara's soul in it. My guess is that Orochimaru found Obito, who wasn't quite dead yet and kept him in stasis (similar to what Nagato did with the Pain bodies) found Madara's body and used that to draw back part of his soul in Obito's body, which messed up Obito's mind- thus the two personalities in Tobi. Madara quickly took over, so what was left was a really messed up fragment of Obito's personality. When Orochimaru was all but killed by Sasuke, Kabuto got everything, including Madara's real body. Orochimaru didn't let on that he had Madara's real body.
It reminded me of Minato and Kushina fighting the Kyuubi as partners, how Mito fought as a partner with Hashirama to defeat Madara and the Kyuubi, even Chiyo using her son and daughter-in-law puppets and the reference to how they fought enemies together, and Jiraiya and Tsunade fighting Orochimaru together
I was certain from "Tobi's" reaction to Kabuto showing him what was in the coffin that it was Madara's real body. My guess has been that Tobi/Madara is Obito's body with a fragment of Madara's soul in it. My guess is that Orochimaru found Obito, who wasn't quite dead yet and kept him in stasis (similar to what Nagato did with the Pain bodies) found Madara's body and used that to draw back part of his soul in Obito's body, which messed up Obito's mind- thus the two personalities in Tobi. Madara quickly took over, so what was left was a really messed up fragment of Obito's personality. When Orochimaru was all but killed by Sasuke, Kabuto got everything, including Madara's real body. Orochimaru didn't let on that he had Madara's real body.
But the major problem is... the way Madara spoke after he was summoned. It seemed as if Madara doesn't even know anything about the current events, if he had, he probably would have said something like "just as planned, huh??" (FYI, the translator is naruhodo. That guy's really unreliable when it comes to translations, so I would take this chapter with a bit of a grain of salt) page 3 where he said that... I don't trust it one bit because the last panel had him surprised about ET. If both of them are Madara, then how is it possible one is surprised about ET and the other... well..... you get my drift. What I'm trying to say is, if Madara expected for the war, and waited to be summoned, he should seem unfazed of the current events, but to me he seems genuinely surprised.
As for Orochimaru's motives, what the heck would he use Obito's body for?? for kittens and giggles?? also, when Tobi attacked Konoha 16 years ago, he was full grown adult, not a kid like Kakashi and Guy was. There's just too many holes with that theory.
But on the other side, if the theory is (partially) true. Then that means this increases the chances of Kushina and Minato being revived as well. The reason why I'm saying Minato can work, because if ET is fine with half a soul, then that means it's possible to revive Minato as Minato's soul that was sealed in Naruto has already disappeared and is in nirvana along with Kushina.
Edited by Codus N, 12 October 2011 - 03:42 PM.
