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When did Naruto jump the shark in your opinion?


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#41 lupina

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Posted 16 June 2022 - 11:48 AM

Yeah I don't think sakura was trying to manipulate naruto here with his feelings, given how angry she got when he accused her of lying.

I was not saying that she was lying.

Giving a confession does mean something, even if it was not given with the intention of getting close to the person you like (which was obvious). She was probably very suprised that he refused her.

Sakura could've just admittet that she still cares deeply for Sasuke and wants him to be saved, but that she is not a child anymore and Naruto now means more to her than Sasuke ever had instead of just pretend that she's completly cold now. Sakura was (for whatever reason) still in love with Sasuke, and after all her efforts to hide this from Naruto and most likely also herself (she was planning on killing him! You can't do that to someone you love!) Naruto still saw right through her.
He "hit" her where it hurt and Sakura responded with anger, which is quite understandable.

It is also not likely that the feelings Sakura confessed to Naruto in this stage were more than platonic love, IF they were still planning on going with NS while writing this scene, which I highly doubt. There were a lot of scenes that hinted Sakuras' heart yearns for more than that in the future, but up to that point she has never thought/adressed/confronted herself about it, not to mention the conflict with the feelings she still has for Sasuke (which also have not been adressed/resolved to this point) this would've caused.


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#42 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted 16 June 2022 - 04:32 PM

Emotional manipulation. This is evil, even if she thought she was doing this for his own good.
This scene was just horrible and an unreasonable attempt on destroying Narutos' and Sakuras' Relationship, implying that their is a fundamental lack of trust, honesty and (platonic) intimacy between those two that forced Sakura to act the way she did.
 
This was just so painful.


It's made worse too with the claim by Sakura in The Last about Naruto's feelings for her which twists how she felt too in the end, and that's what some of us seem to be pissed about.

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Posted 17 June 2022 - 12:12 PM

It's made worse too with the claim by Sakura in The Last about Naruto's feelings for her which twists how she felt too in the end, and that's what some of us seem to be pissed about.

I remember.

People from opposite fandoms were like "Ahahah, see? It was so obvious that it is fake and those stupid fools belived it". Then Kishimoto himself said that he had the intention to show an honest (but stubborn) girl. But he said a lot of things, right? Like N/H planned from the middle, than from the beginning and then N/S was just supposed to be one big red herring (lol). Theese people are not trustworthy and their words probably don't mean anything.


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#44 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted 17 June 2022 - 06:01 PM

I remember.
People from opposite fandoms were like "Ahahah, see? It was so obvious that it is fake and those stupid fools belived it". Then Kishimoto himself said that he had the intention to show an honest (but stubborn) girl. But he said a lot of things, right? Like N/H planned from the middle, than from the beginning and then N/S was just supposed to be one big red herring (lol). Theese people are not trustworthy and their words probably don't mean anything.


And a lot of it is due to Studio Pierrot's meddling




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