A long time ago, I asked what does it take. Does the best friend (originally used by Itachi) or other person have to die or is it enough for the person with the eye to believe it? To me it makes more sense for the latter because then it depends on the person with the eye and what goes on in their brain. How would the sharingan know the difference as to whether Obito died or not, if Kakashi truly believed at the time? I'm willing to suspend disbelief to a degree, but not so much as to say that the evolution was because of Obito's death at a later point in time.
For the record, I didn't mean to suggest that Kakashi's Mangekyo upgrade was due to Obito's death at a later time. I was suggesting that if Obito did not die when it was assumed he did, that perhaps some event in Obito's ongoing life (of which Kakashi is unaware) was the reason for the Mangekyo upgrade in the eye that Kakashi possesses.
And believe me, I'm not saying any of this necessarily makes great sense, or that I can defend the theory. I'm just looking for ways to connect the dots with what we know -- plus leave room for potential asspullery.
Moreover, I believe he cannot shut it off because of the only sharingan DNA he has is in the eye, so he's limited in how much he can do with it and essentially gets the eye in the same condition that he took it. But if this is why he cannot shut it off he should not be able to evolve it either. It just doesn't add up.
I agree. As you said, the mystery of how the Sharingan works, its power levels and upgrades, and how it is affected by the body it's in have not been explained well. That's exactly why it's on my "what I'd like to see" list.
Kishimoto has relied on "DNA" as an explanation for a lot of things in his story, and yet he has steered clear of any real detailed or scientific explanations -- and I don't blame him. That's a slippery slope in a story like this, and it's more convenient to ask readers to be complicit in the fantasy aspect and accept his broad explanations at face value. (The problem is, you can easily run aground if you take other aspects of the story at face value.)
But..... I remember Obito saying, "I'll become your eye and see the future with you," and I wonder if maybe a mystical element is implied. That maybe characteristics/experiences of the Sharingan's original owner are bound to the eye itself somehow -- like Kakashi acquiring Obito's habitual tardiness post-implant, for instance.
I don't know. I may be trying too hard to connect the dots, or look for dots that aren't there. Hopefully Kishimoto will get it explained one of these days.
Well how can it be obito? Like he got killed at the time of minato vs tobi ? ( correct me if im Wrong please )
I wish I had $20 for every person who argued with my theory that Orochimaru would return before the end of the story. They said he couldn't POSSIBLY come back because he was "dead," and yet he just did. The thing is, in a story like this nearly anything is possible. There are ways Kishimoto could potentially explain how Obito is Tobi, and resolve all the confusion over the details in a reasonably satisfactory manner. (Well, as reasonably as he explains a lot of other stuff, anyway.
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Wow, seriously??
then that means the theory has more merit to it then. Kishi is also known for having word plays in his manga so I wouldn't be surprised if this were true.
That's what my friend said. He was just throwing it out as a possibility (months ago), and then when Tobi started telling Naruto that he was "no one" I thought that was something a "dead person" might say.
Also, if it is true, Kakashi would be a total wreck when he finds out. If Tobi retreats when his mask is broken (as it's been hinted), Kakashi is going to have trouble keeping himself sane. He's going to need someone by his side.
I've wondered that if Tobi turned out to be Obito somehow, maybe that revelation would be the focus on Kakashi that Kishimoto talked about covering in the story but he hasn't yet. IDK.