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[PhenixElite]

SS would be retarded, NH is not retarded is one-sided and overrated but not completely retarded.
because sasuke did the inverse of what naruto did to sakura, while naruto treated her like a woman deserves, sasuke treated her like a trash, and the worse is it happens all the time, woman never give a chance to a kind and gentle guy is always give a chance to a guy that will surely kick her ass, and treats her like a trash, this is the part of me that i see on naruto.
I will rage and send a kitten you to kishimoto.

The point is that NH and SS are both very unlikely but i personally think SS is even far, far under NH.
The reason for that is that sakuras character would be completly trsh and everyone would hate her character for not changing her feelings for sasuke,
thats the way i see it.

[Chatte]

SS would be retarded, NH is not retarded is one-sided and overrated but not completely retarded.
because sasuke did the inverse of what naruto did to sakura, while naruto treated her like a woman deserves, sasuke treated her like a trash, and the worse is it happens all the time, woman never give a chance to a kind and gentle guy is always give a chance to a guy that will surely kick her ass, and treats her like a trash, this is the part of me that i see on naruto.
I will rage and send a kitten you to kishimoto.

The point is that NH and SS are both very unlikely but i personally think SS is even far, far under NH.
The reason for that is that sakuras character would be completly trsh and everyone would hate her character for not changing her feelings for sasuke,
thats the way i see it.

Well, hopefully that won't happen though I saw it like a good question, though. As I read it (can't remember if on another forum or tumblr) the person in cause said something like, why do you think that when Naruto wants to explain to her why Sasuke has fallen so low, Naruto was stopped.
Anyway, hope it really doesn't happen. :|
I like her and everything, but with this, Kishi would ruin years of work on her character.

[PhenixElite]

Well, hopefully that won't happen though I saw it like a good question, though. As I read it (can't remember if on another forum or tumblr) the person in cause said something like, why do you think that when Naruto wants to explain to her why Sasuke has fallen so low, Naruto was stopped.
Anyway, hope it really doesn't happen. :|
I like her and everything, but with this, Kishi would ruin years of work on her character.

Just have a little faith, the last kishi can make is SS it just has no chance. I say it the last time, that usually in shonen the tsundere gets with the hero and the shy gril ends up alone and this one will be no exception if we followed the manga till now.
Hes not destroying his manga with something like that. As i said in one of my previous posts, im sure that kishi included sakuras love for sasuke for naruto to get with her in the end.
I mean what should be the reason for kishi to show sakura coming together with an total A$$hole, if she can also choose the selfless hero? Theres just no reason!

[swagosaurus]

Wait, what is everyone reading that's so awesome? I feel so out of the loop D:

[Tsubaki]

If Kishi really use that excuse to make SS canon I'll be very disappointed with him. isn't even because SS become canon, It's simply because that would be a sh*** excuse.

It's like "oh he was disturbed for what happened with his brother, so that's why he tried to kill me without hesitation!!" .. this is really not a good excuse. c'mon Kishi you can do something better than that.

So guys, I was in crunchyroll watching some anime and checking the news and found this (It's for the blood donation but want you guys to see it):



Is it just me or this picture is full of cuteness .

aww This is soo adorable!!

Edited by Tsubaki, 10 December 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Wait, what is everyone reading that's so awesome? I feel so out of the loop D:

Twilight

[luffyq1]

Well she still has feelings for a guy who tried to kill her. Remember, Sakura broke down into tears when she found out what happens to Naruto once the bijuu is extracted. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that her feelings for Sasuke will be strengthened upon hearing what truly happened to the Uchiha clan. Look, I'm a NS fan but I'm looking at this from both sides. But it still doesn't change the fact that he treated her like garbage in part 1. For Sakura to end up with Sasuke at the end of the manga will be laughable. Not only will i lose all respect that i have for Kishimoto, but i will also lose respect for Sakura's character completely.

Edited by luffyq1, 10 December 2012 - 09:47 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well she still has feelings for a guy who tried to kill her. Remember, Sakura broke down into tears when she found out what happens to Naruto once the bijuu is extracted. It's not out of the real of possibilities that her feelings for Sasuke will be strengthened upon hearing what truly happened to the Uchiha clan. Look, I'm a NS fan but I'm looking at this from both sides. But it still doesn't change the fact that he treated her like garbage in part 1. For Sakura to end up with Sasuke at the end of the manga will be laughable. Not only will i lose all respect that i have for Kishimoto, but i will also lose respect for Sakura's character completely.

We're nto talking about sasuke feelings be strenghtened we talked about she comes to understand sasuke like "so he's doing this because of his clan.." so it would be ok if he tried to kill her, now you understand, i do not want this to happen because the high probability of she thinking that her near death experience was nothing and forgive sasuke.

[luffyq1]

We're nto talking about sasuke feelings be strenghtened we talked about she comes to understand sasuke like "so he's doing this because of his clan.." so it would be ok if he tried to kill her, now you understand, i do not want this to happen because the high probability of she thinking that her near death experience was nothing and forgive sasuke.

What in the bloody hell? Where in my post did i touch on Sasuke's feelings? I was talking about Sakura's feelings, not Sasuke. Like i said before, her feelings being strengthened upon hearing the truth about the Uchiha clan is not an impossible thing. After all, Naruto understood why Sasuke is in the dark place he is in right now.

Edited by luffyq1, 10 December 2012 - 09:57 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I have started to read it now, hehe.
Wow, so much insight and things I have never though about.
Anyway, wanted to ask you guys some stuff.

Someone once said, dunno where I read it, that Sakura's going to fall for Sasuke once more after she'll find out the secret behind the Uchiha Clan Massacre and will understand why Sasuke turned this way, etc and that there's no denying that.
What do you guys think?
Something to "worry" about?
I see that happening in a way, heh. Meaning, finding about the secret behind it.

The idea of Sakura falling for Sasuke after finding out the truth of the clan massacre is retarded and probably SS fans last resort for the pairing to become canon. And most importantly it will go against all of her character development done from the beginning till this point. What good would falling in love with Sasuke again will do to her? It doesn't change the fact of Sasuke ever loving her, she will also suffer more than she already has. In POV if Naruto chooses to tell her the truth of the Uchiha massacre it will have the opposite effect she will support Naruto of stopping Sasuke (not necessarily kill him). Because it doesn't change the fact that finding out Itachi wanted the best for Konoha Sasuke is going against his wishes and the right thing to do will be to support and follow his wishes, but its clear which path Sasuke took. Therefore the" Sakura falling for Sasuke if she finds out the truth of the massacre theory" to me is a complete FAIL.

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 December 2012 - 09:58 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

What in the bloody hell? Where in my post did i touch on Sasuke's feelings? I was talking about Sakura's feelings, not Sasuke. Like i said before, her feelings being strengthened upon hearing the truth about the Uchiha clan is not an impossible thing. After all, Naruto understood why Sasuke is in the dark place he is in right now.

Do you think naruto feelings for sasuke strenghtened?
naruto understood but he knows what he's doing is not right it's different.
Naruto knows what sasuke did and after all of it he dont say i'll bring him back but he said i'll save him, this started happening after his talk with gaara.

naruto said to izuna that he would bring sasuke back this happened before learning that sasuke joined akatsuki and attacked the kages and kill that samurais and etc..

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 December 2012 - 10:03 PM.

[PhenixElite]

The idea of Sakura falling for Sasuke after finding out the truth of the clan massacre is retarded and probably SS fans last resort for the pairing to become canon. And most importantly it will go against all of her character development done from the beginning till this point. What good would falling in love with Sasuke again will do to her? It doesn't change the fact of Sasuke ever loving her, she will also suffer more than she already has. In POV if Naruto chooses to tell her the truth of the Uchiha massacre it will have the opposite effect she will support Naruto of stopping Sasuke (not necessarily kill him). Because it doesn't change the fact that finding out Itachi wanted the best for Konoha Sasuke is going against his wishes and the right thing to do will be to support and follow his wishes, but its clear which path Sasuke took. Therefore the" Sakura falling for Sasuke if she finds out the truth of the massacre theory" to me is a complete FAIL.

Also if sasuke becomes good again, he still wont hold feelings from her out of no where. Thats just a big point why i think SS just cant happen.
So since sasuke is not going to change im sure sakura is going to change becuase i dont think that kishi shows her running after a guy till the end who has completly no feelings for her and then she end up alone.
Thats just not the right flow of the story. Maybe Sasuke will be redeemed and survives it, but, but also then sakura will already recognize her true feelings for naruto.

Just think about it. Theres a whole databook about how sakura is not sure about what she feels for naruto. In other words it means sakura has romantic feelings for naruto, since your not confused if its just normal friendship right?
So for me the databook already gives the big enough hint for NS beeing canon in the end.

[luffyq1]

The idea of Sakura falling for Sasuke after finding out the truth of the clan massacre is retarded and probably SS fans last resort for the pairing to become canon.

As retarded as that theory sounds, it's still a possibility. After all Sasuke has done to her, Sakura still views Sasuke in a romantic light, while she still views Naruto as her close friend. Retarded theory is supported by this fact.

[PhenixElite]

As retarded as that theory sounds, it's still a possibility. After all Sasuke has done to her, Sakura still views Sasuke in a romantic light, while she still views Naruto as her close friend. Retarded theory is supported by this fact.

Of course hes still showing sakura holding romantic feelings for sasuke. It brings tension to the whole romance subplot. Also if she already was over sasuke, would mean that Naruto and sakura already should be together, but thats saved for the end so its just normal. Thats also the reason why we still see hinata development.

[luffyq1]

Do you think naruto feelings for sasuke strenghtened?
naruto understood but he knows what he's doing is not right it's different.
Naruto knows what sasuke did and after all of it he dont say i'll bring him back but he said i'll save him, this started happening after his talk with gaara.

naruto said to izuna that he would bring sasuke back this happened before learning that sasuke joined akatsuki and attacked the kages and kill that samurais and etc..

Yes, i do think Naruto's feelings for Sasuke strengthened during the summit, as shown evident through his determination to bring Sasuke back to the village so team 7 can be happy again. Hell, he even placed himself in Sasuke's position. I'm not saying that Naruto thinks what Sasuke is doing is right, read my post carefully please. When Sakura learned about what happens to a Jin once their Bijuu is extracted, she became very protective of Naruto. Who's to say that her feelings won't be strengthened upon hearing the truth about the Uchiha clan? It's possible, don't deny it.

Of course hes still showing sakura holding romantic feelings for sasuke. It brings tension to the whole romance subplot. Also if she already was over sasuke, would mean that Naruto and sakura already should be together, but thats saved for the end so its just normal. Thats also the reason why we still see hinata development.

If she was already over Sasuke then it would just mean she's settling for Naruto, and Naruto ain't having that crap, as shown through the confession. If murder attempts still doesn't remove her feelings for Sasuke, then what else is there to make them go away? We're seeing more Hinata development because the manga is reaching it's end and Kishi wants to resolve her feelings for Naruto, be it good or bad, it needs to be resolved.

Edited by luffyq1, 10 December 2012 - 10:35 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Yes, i do think Naruto's feelings for Sasuke strengthened during the summit, as shown evident through his determination to bring Sasuke back to the vilage so team 7 can be happy again. Hell, he even placed himself in Sasuke's position. I'm not saying that Naruto thinks what Sasuke is doing is right, read my post carefully please. When Sakura learned about what happens to a Jin once their Bijuu is extracted, she became very protective of Naruto. Who's to say that her feelings won't be strengthened upon hearing the truth about the Uchiha clan? It's possible, don't deny it.



If she was already over Sasuke then it would just mean she's settling for Naruto, and Naruto ain't having that crap, as shown through the confession. If murder attempts still doesn't remove her feelings for Sasuke, then what else is there to make them go away? We're seeing more Hinata development because the manga is reaching it's end and Kishi wants to resolve her feelings for Naruto, be it good or bad, it needs to be resolved.

The thing that make sakura realize her feelings for naruto is first of all time , and the second thing is when naruto finally keeps his promise.
Also as weve seen her feelings for naruto come up in specific situations like when hes in danger. Maybe something like that happens during the battle Naruto vs Sasuke.
Next thing is that she already seems to be in love with naruto, but when the time is right she will have to decide if her feelings for naruto are the true ones or her feelings for sasuke.
So seriously do you really think that kishimoto would make everyone hate her character if he already stated that hes fond of her? I guess not.

For me SS is already dead. I cant see it happening and theres noone who will change my opinion. I just dont see kishi as a bad writer like that.

Edit:
If kishis intention was SS why even release something like the databook? It just makes no sence at all.
To add something to sakuras feelings: Feelings dont change instantly, that means just because sasuke tried to kill her doenst mean that shes instantly over sasuke.
Sakura first of all even regognized that sasuke went over to akatsuki after the pain fight. So that was the moment when she first really started to see him in bad light.

Edited by PhenixElite, 10 December 2012 - 10:49 PM.

[Chatte]

Well, hopefully things like those won't happen, because Kishi would ruin her character.
Regarding other parts...

What I see now although everyone sees NaruHina, I see Hinata coming out of her shell, gaining that confidence to seek for Naruto's response and when she'll get it, she won't be destroyed (as in emotionally) by the answer, she'll grow the mental fortitude to overcome this and to get to an understanding.

Which I love, not because of NaruSaku as 99.99% NaruHina fans would be inclined to think but because of her, because she'll finally show that she is able to exist WITHOUT her character's existence to be all-around Naruto. It's the stand-point for Hinata's growth. But with them becoming rather friends than lovers.
Because if Kishi would have indented them to be lovers, he wouldn't have written all that he did for other outcomes.

Right?

[luffyq1]

The thing that make sakura realize her feelings for naruto is first of all time , and the second thing is when naruto finally keeps his promise.

Naruto isn't doing this for the promise anymore. The promise has been lifted. He wants to save Sasuke because he's in a dark place right now, he's like his brother, and to see team 7 together.
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Also as weve seen her feelings for naruto come up in specific situations like when hes in danger. Maybe something like that happens during the battle Naruto vs Sasuke.

That could happen.

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Next thing is that she already seems to be in love with naruto, but when the time is right she will have to decide if her feelings for naruto are the true ones or her feelings for sasuke.

She seems to be in love with Sasuke, not Naruto.
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So seriously do you really think that kishimoto would make everyone hate her character if he already stated that hes fond of her? I guess not.

He's already done that, and still currently is by still having Sakura love Sasuke after all he's done.
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For me SS is already dead. I cant see it happening and theres noone who will change my opinion. I just dont see kishi as a bad writer like that.

Agreed. But she still loves Sasuke. Kishi is being a bad writter by still showing Sakura loves Sasuke.

Edited by luffyq1, 10 December 2012 - 11:16 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Next to Sakura's love resolution, Sasuke's redemption will be the hardest task for Kishi to make it believable. The only acceptable option I can only see is either death or wonder the world. The problem is the fact there's so much conflicts within Sasuke and Konoha. If one side agree, the other won't. Sasuke already did enough deed for the world to see that he must be dead or anything of sort. He has worked for the villains countless times, invade the summit, which that alone already is a big crime. It's like invading the United Nation building. Danzou was killed by Sasuke (note: Sasuke said it whether he did or not), regardless if Danzou did some underground deeds, the point is that he belong in Konoha. It's like yeah, you hate the vice president for being rude and such, but killing him won't do anything good, rather make you worse. He has done so much, and him being redeemed and have open arm by Konoha like no big deal will be a horrible solution. The problem is even if Konoha is cool with it, you think everyone in there are? You think the other nations will be good with it? Realistically, if he has the chance to flee, he will be banished from all named villages, and just wonder the world. Even Kakashi said if Konoha or perhaps everyone learns about the truth, it will cause chaos and perhaps a civil war.

Now, the possibility of Sakura learning about Sasuke's reason and forgives him is a bit there, but I don't think it will help her to feel love again. Her love is fading and if Naruto gets the best of her without force, then she will change her feelings. In media, they tends to make the situation for women in love harder by placing them in confusion. Like on one hand, you like this guy, but then you meet another guy who is either your childhood friend or the fact he is similar to you and will be able to do many things alongside. Sakura is this situation, but the confusion has not yet started for her. It all depends on how Sakura sees it. Right now, Naruto has been nothing but positive for her. Sasuke continues to be negative. Again, she can respect both of them respectively, but love is something else.

Even if Sakura learns the truth of the massacre, what good that will do for her. She already accepts the fact that Naruto will handle Sasuke, 1-on-1, no one else. She can still help, but once Sasuke himself shows up, then leave it to Naruto. What's worrying her now is two things: the current situation in the manga and Naruto's plan with Sasuke (die together). She has nothing on Sasuke but hope Team 7 will return again. The fact that Sasuke's redemption will happen in the final climax tells me that her time is out and it will only come out rushed as hell, more than this so-called NH in the current situation. Naruto and Sakura has more stuff to deal with each other before bringing Team 7 as a whole. Right now, Naruto is getting his glory moment in front of Sakura, so the positive just keeps getting higher. Not once Sasuke thought of her individually throughout the manga. Yes, I said it without hesitation. It's always about one whole team. That's his purpose. Naruto is similar, but his is about them respectively. I still stand by this, but Naruto's last moment before the storm will be Sakura and with that, there's no way you can dodge a potential romance scene. I have seen this countless times and it's always the same.

This arc is like the Pain Invasion Arc, the Team 7 center won't be the vocal point. That will be the next. Right now, it's all Naruto. That's another thing. Sakura is always been his side to the very end. The Kage Summit arc really shows how much each of them has changed, with the exception of Naruto. That was the point. Naruto was being indirectly told to change. Instead, he managed to fight back and decided to never back down and settle it with himself. If he did change his mind, he will no longer be the Naruto we all know. That's why he had mental breakdown. It was hard, but he still pulled it through. Rest assure, it will all be clear once the situation with Sasuke begins. Sakura is no doubt in state of moving on. It will take Naruto to impress her without force. It will click soon. This does happen a lot. Time is clicking.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@luffyq1 -> Do you really think that scene was to show that she loves sasuke?
it had implications it made her rethink her feelings for him, saying that she still loves sasuke is not a valid statement now, we have to see what is the resolution that she got, if kishi shows one more time that she loves sasuke, therefore i do not see NS as canon.
For NS to be canon depends of her resolution.
if even that guy could not made her think about her "Love" it will remain as that.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 December 2012 - 11:14 PM.