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[ciardha]

I think he was just angry with her cause she lied about being "totally over Sasuke." I think she *still* harbons some feelings for him, deep down. But she's in love with Naruto - that's obvious on one thing.

English/Grammar fail on my part, sorry bout that.

To clarify further, not consciously lying about her feelings at all. Mad because she was "lying to herself" (meaning deluding herself) that she no longer felt any bond whatsoever to Sasuke. He may not have understood the change in her bond to Sasuke (no longer romantic love, but memories of those feelings, feelings of compassion, and of course the team mate bond). What Sakura had told herself was she must cut off any feelings about Sasuke, but it takes time for that, and now she feels guilt ridden about those remnant of feelings, it makes her think she's still too weak. Her love for Naruto is completely separate from that, and make her feel happy, etc... She may harbor shame about not being able to do what she thought she could.

Note how quickly Naruto's anger passes too, even by the time Sakura walks away in chapter 470 Naruto's not angry at her anymore, and then when Sai clarified things further in 474 that breaks for good the image he had harbored of her in his mind of the 12 year old Sasuke fangirl. The way Naruto acts when he rescues Sakura from Sasuke is quite tender- with a lingering touch on her shoulder, etc... Note as well, how Naruto says nothing about Sakura having any romantic feelings for Sasuke when he admonishes him. His words are all about respecting Sakura as a member of Team 7 the same as they are. Naruto's mental image of Sakura in chapter 505 shows dramatic the change in how he sees her. He now sees her as she is- as a young woman who looks at him with open affection, joy, absolute encouragement and trust.

[Rocket]

Hello people! I haven't been on in a while and there's all this talk about Sakura's Confession. First things first. Yes I a small portion of me supports NS, but a much larger portion of me supports NH. I'm so sick and tired of NS fans saying "Kishi said this! Kishi said that!" Are you kidding me? Interviews, Anime and anything else are NOT evidence. The manga is. Yes we know that Sakura's confession was not 100% truthful but I want you to show me specific manga evidence where is hints/shows it's true. P.S. I'm not trying to be rude, so I am sorry if I was.

Yaaaay you're back!

Anyways, interviews are counted as evidence, since this is stuff coming from mangaka themselves, however, in this case, not everyone in the NS fandom totally accepted the Jump Festa 2010 interview. A few pages back, some people were talking about Kishi-sensei being vague about Sakura being an honest girl. He didn't tell the people what he meant by that, so he could have been saying that Sakura was honest about one, her love for Naruto, or two, something else I can’t remember XD Also, Kishi-sensei is smart enough to know not to reveal anything that’s gonna happen in the manga.

I’ll admit myself, though, that I instantly took it that way at first, but I guess it’s because he also sent a message to the fans that sent hate mail regarding the confession, and how Sakura was the heroine, not Hinata.

To clarify further, not consciously lying about her feelings at all. Mad because she was "lying to herself" (meaning deluding herself) that she no longer felt any bond whatsoever to Sasuke.

This whole bit's pretty self explanatory. A lot of the fans of the opposing fandom (and even some NS fans too :|) mistake this as actually lying, when really she's just trying to deny her feelings for Sasuke, and obviously that isn't an easy thing to do.

[FoolishYoungling]

Oh.. the confession debate again I see, well then, pretty simple.
Why is it simple?

Well people are saying that she might of been lieing about her love for Naruto, well they are wrong. If you believe it was a lie, look back at the NS scene with Yamato saying to Sakura "I can tell you truly-". Yep! At that point we can tell she loves him, and she found it would of put Naruto at more rest to confess her love for him. I believe that Sai did push Sakura into believing that her love for Sasuke was nothing, but that would be a lie.

How about when he said stop lieing to yourself and got mad?

Well he was upset because he couldn't stand Sakura acting like she didn't care, and yes, he could tell she was trying to lift the burden off of him, but Naruto didn't want Sakura to act like she didn't care for Sasuke.

Why doesn't Naruto want Sakura to act this way?

Well simple, he wants to win her fair and square, and he wants her to not feel like she must protect him from something. Plus he wants her to keep her bond with Sasuke, and see team 7 again. Now this might make you think that SS is already approved by Naruto, but that is wrong. Naruto still loves Sakura (NH has no room in this anime), and he plans on keeping it that way. Now I don't know if Naruto knows if she was lieing or not, but I would say he knows she likes him and Sasuke. Now before you say NH and SS got us on this one, just think of some of the ways the confession answers can be resolved.. 1) forehead kiss.. 2) Kushina approving of NS... 3) Sakura calling herself a burden and Naruto saying no and telling her he loves her...

So yes, Sakura has feelings for 2 men, 1 jerk, and 1 main hero of the anime, look shes a heroine guys, not really hard to see where Kishi is going with this.

[Anguyen92]

Well simple, he wants to win her fair and square, and he wants her to not feel like she must protect him from something. Plus he wants her to keep her bond with Sasuke, and see team 7 again. Now this might make you think that SS is already approved by Naruto, but that is wrong. Naruto still loves Sakura (NH has no room in this anime), and he plans on keeping it that way. Now I don't know if Naruto knows if she was lieing or not, but I would say he knows she likes him and Sasuke. Now before you say NH and SS got us on this one, just think of some of the ways the confession answers can be resolved.. 1) forehead kiss.. 2) Kushina approving of NS... 3) Sakura calling herself a burden and Naruto saying no and telling her he loves her...

So yes, Sakura has feelings for 2 men, 1 jerk, and 1 main hero of the anime, look shes a heroine guys, not really hard to see where Kishi is going with this.

Yep, pretty fairly good and logical deduction points from there. He was just pretty flabbergasted and upset that she said any feelings, they don't have to be romantic or anything, regarding Sasuke had been gone, while that is not true, to a certain extend. The whole main story for part II is bringing Sasuke home with a clear-mind and see the bonds Naruto have with his cherished ones, especially with Sakura, grow, right? And Sakura just does not want that anymore with Sasuke, right? That does not really compute well, in the grand scheme of things. It may be a long shot, but will that team seven happy ending, with narusaku as the final pairing of course, still be alive?

Boy, this has been one really bumpy and yet somehow steady road to defining a canon pairing, because yep, not all relationships are perfect. There will be some roadblocks, but the results and the ending would be satisfying because that's how stories work. If you look at all the possible pairings, out of the three, which one would have a future that both of them would be satisfied and happy about?

Edited by Anguyen92, 17 October 2011 - 08:08 PM.

[Don-kun]

Sorry for my english is not my 1st speaking language, I try to make it a bit more readable



I was thinking about nice fairy to resolve the bench scene.

Naruto leaven to fight Sasuke and Sakura start haven a flashback about how wonderful person Naruto really is, but just before Naruto leave for the final battle Sakura hug Naruto

Hug --Click here to view--

and tell please come back alive, Naruto I cannot bare to lose you, you are the most important person in my life, I will not be able to live with out you.
Hearing that Naruto will have a shocked expression he will look at her, apologize and kiss her on her forehead then then tell her, sorry Sakura chan " you sure have a large charming forehead... I always wanted to kiss it.''

Forehead --Click here to view--

Sakura will then have a shock and confused expression...... ''That_was_you...Naruto'' but when the tear of happiness start falling and her face, Naruto will tell her don't worry Sakura chan I will never leave you alone, plus I will not die before I become Hokage.

This is my scenario of that bench scene what you guys think.

Know my reasons why I still think Naruto will confess to Sakura after the war is over.

Make someone happy --Click here to view--

Reason why I feel Naruto never thought he could make Sakura really Happy.

Epic save --Click here to view--

Naruto always thought that only Sasuke could bring her real happiness, but after this event Naruto will not hold back his feelings for her.

Friends --Click here to view--

Naruto visual image of his friends

NaruSaku---MInaKushi --Click here to view--

NaruSaku Future example.

What you guys think

Edited by donjoseph19, 18 October 2011 - 08:15 PM.

[Anguyen92]

^^ That was really good man, and don't worry about the whole English is not your 1st language thing, you typed it well, better than me, I might add. Good use of pictures, as reference, especially the last one and all of that.

[AzureWaters]

To clarify further, not consciously lying about her feelings at all. Mad because she was "lying to herself" (meaning deluding herself) that she no longer felt any bond whatsoever to Sasuke. He may not have understood the change in her bond to Sasuke (no longer romantic love, but memories of those feelings, feelings of compassion, and of course the team mate bond). What Sakura had told herself was she must cut off any feelings about Sasuke, but it takes time for that, and now she feels guilt ridden about those remnant of feelings, it makes her think she's still too weak. Her love for Naruto is completely separate from that, and make her feel happy, etc... She may harbor shame about not being able to do what she thought she could.

Note how quickly Naruto's anger passes too, even by the time Sakura walks away in chapter 470 Naruto's not angry at her anymore, and then when Sai clarified things further in 474 that breaks for good the image he had harbored of her in his mind of the 12 year old Sasuke fangirl. The way Naruto acts when he rescues Sakura from Sasuke is quite tender- with a lingering touch on her shoulder, etc... Note as well, how Naruto says nothing about Sakura having any romantic feelings for Sasuke when he admonishes him. His words are all about respecting Sakura as a member of Team 7 the same as they are. Naruto's mental image of Sakura in chapter 505 shows dramatic the change in how he sees her. He now sees her as she is- as a young woman who looks at him with open affection, joy, absolute encouragement and trust.

Eh, sorry Ciardha, but sometimes I think you're just a bit too radical =/

During Kage Arc Kishimoto did in fact confirm that Sakura was still in love with Sasuke. I'm a NaruSaku fan too, but sometimes you just have to admit to things and move on. Recognizing this current fact doesn't mean there's not a possibility of Sakura's feelings developing in a different (or deeper, depending on ones perspective) direction towards Naruto, but as of right now she likes Sasuke.

[FoolishYoungling]

Eh, sorry Ciardha, but sometimes I think you're just a bit too radical =/

During Kage Arc Kishimoto did in fact confirm that Sakura was still in love with Sasuke. I'm a NaruSaku fan too, but sometimes you just have to admit to things and move on. Recognizing this current fact doesn't mean there's not a possibility of Sakura's feelings developing in a different (or deeper, depending on ones perspective) direction towards Naruto, but as of right now she likes Sasuke.

in love with Sasuke or not, in the end, Naruto will be getting Sakura, I mean, hero likes a heroine since episode 1... promise of a lifetime... you see where I'm going with this?

[Fenris]

Eh, sorry Ciardha, but sometimes I think you're just a bit too radical =/

During Kage Arc Kishimoto did in fact confirm that Sakura was still in love with Sasuke. I'm a NaruSaku fan too, but sometimes you just have to admit to things and move on. Recognizing this current fact doesn't mean there's not a possibility of Sakura's feelings developing in a different (or deeper, depending on ones perspective) direction towards Naruto, but as of right now she likes Sasuke.

Eh? Moving on from what? The chance of a pairing happening? Seems kind of lame to me. It's not like Sasukes just gonna up and love Sakura. Sure, Sakura still harbons feelings for Sasuke, we all know that. Doesn't mean she cant fall for Naruto like she's already seemingly is. She already confessed, for Kyuubi's sake. Of course, she lied about not having gotten TOTALLY over Sasuke. But, yeah. I mean, he's Naruto. Who could not fall for him. And it's not like Narutos gonna up and go: "Oh Hinata, I love you!" after barely any interaction with her. Naruto and Sakura have the strongest bond in the manga - whether it be romantic or friendship. Do the math.. (cause it's not like Sasuke gives a kitten about Naruto or Sakura anymore.. . Not to sound rude.

Edited by iamfenris, 18 October 2011 - 11:36 PM.

[naruto-z]

in love with Sasuke or not, in the end, Naruto will be getting Sakura, I mean, hero likes a heroine since episode 1... promise of a lifetime... you see where I'm going with this?

Eh? Moving on from what? The chance of a pairing happening? Seems kind of lame to me. It's not like Sasukes just gonna up and love Sakura. Sure, Sakura still harbons feelings for Sasuke, we all know that. Doesn't mean she cant fall for Naruto like she's already seemingly is. She already confessed, for Kyuubi's sake. Of course, she lied about not having gotten TOTALLY over Sasuke. But, yeah. I mean, he's Naruto. Who could not fall for him. And it's not like Narutos gonna up and go: "Oh Hinata, I love you!" after barely any interaction with her. Naruto and Sakura have the strongest bond in the manga - whether it be romantic or friendship. Do the math.. (cause it's not like Sasuke gives a kitten about Naruto or Sakura anymore.. . Not to sound rude.

Uhh, hey you guys:

Recognizing this current fact doesn't mean there's not a possibility of Sakura's feelings developing in a different (or deeper, depending on ones perspective) direction towards Naruto

Edited by naruto-z, 18 October 2011 - 11:50 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

Eh? Moving on from what? The chance of a pairing happening? Seems kind of lame to me. It's not like Sasukes just gonna up and love Sakura. Sure, Sakura still harbons feelings for Sasuke, we all know that. Doesn't mean she cant fall for Naruto like she's already seemingly is. She already confessed, for Kyuubi's sake. Of course, she lied about not having gotten TOTALLY over Sasuke. But, yeah. I mean, he's Naruto. Who could not fall for him. And it's not like Narutos gonna up and go: "Oh Hinata, I love you!" after barely any interaction with her. Naruto and Sakura have the strongest bond in the manga - whether it be romantic or friendship. Do the math.. (cause it's not like Sasuke gives a s*it about Naruto or Sakura anymore.. . Not to sound rude.

Right! and this is why SasuHina would be great together, so they don't end up being left out in the end!

[Darth Krypt]

Uhh, hey you guys:

Thank you for saving me the trouble. Some of you guys really have to read people's posts properly before replying.

[AzureWaters]

Eh? Moving on from what? The chance of a pairing happening? Seems kind of lame to me. It's not like Sasukes just gonna up and love Sakura. Sure, Sakura still harbons feelings for Sasuke, we all know that. Doesn't mean she cant fall for Naruto like she's already seemingly is. She already confessed, for Kyuubi's sake. Of course, she lied about not having gotten TOTALLY over Sasuke. But, yeah. I mean, he's Naruto. Who could not fall for him. And it's not like Narutos gonna up and go: "Oh Hinata, I love you!" after barely any interaction with her. Naruto and Sakura have the strongest bond in the manga - whether it be romantic or friendship. Do the math.. (cause it's not like Sasuke gives a kitten about Naruto or Sakura anymore.. . Not to sound rude.

Moving on as in moving on from the idea that she's not in love with Sasuke currently. I mentioned in my post that that didn't mean NaruSaku couldn't happen; I specifically said that there's a chance that Sakura will eventually move on and fall for Naruto instead.

At this point I don't think Sakura's in love with Naruto, but the possibility is there that she could evolve into having those feelings. And in no way do I use that supposed confession in 469 as a hint that Sakura has been falling for Naruto. Other than exposing her worry for Naruto, that confession did the total opposite of convincing me of that. What I think will happen is that Sakura may or may not have an epiphany later down the line-- likely when Naruto is in danger or when the major conflict is settled. There's also a chance that she may remain in love with Sasuke; whether SasuSaku happens or not, there would still be a possibility that she may keep her one-sided feelings with everything remaining stagnant and unresolved. Fortunately I don't think the author is heading that way, as he's already putting a little too much attention into pairings.

And Sakura has no obligation to fall for Naruto. He's saved her once or twice, and is a great friend, but if she's just not into him that way than it shouldn't be forced. Whatever Kishimoto wants will happen-- whether its a NS outcome or not.

Sorry if I may seem a little less enthusiastic than the rest of you guys. I'm holding out for NaruSaku, but honestly I'm just trying to keep an open mind. Being close-minded to other possibilities (like SasuSaku or NaruHina), no matter how much I personally dislike it, would only lead to more disappointment if something happens that isn't so favorable for us.

[FoolishYoungling]

Moving on as in moving on from the idea that she's not in love with Sasuke currently. I mentioned in my post that that didn't mean NaruSaku couldn't happen; I specifically said that there's a chance that Sakura will eventually move on and fall for Naruto instead.

At this point I don't think Sakura's in love with Naruto, but the possibility is there that she could evolve into having those feelings. And in no way do I use that supposed confession in 469 as a hint that Sakura has been falling for Naruto. Other than exposing her worry for Naruto, that confession did the total opposite of convincing me of that. What I think will happen is that Sakura may or may not have an epiphany later down the line-- likely when Naruto is in danger or when the major conflict is settled. There's also a chance that she may remain in love with Sasuke; whether SasuSaku happens or not, there would still be a possibility that she may keep her one-sided feelings with everything remaining stagnant and unresolved. Fortunately I don't think the author is heading that way, as he's already putting a little too much attention into pairings.

And Sakura has no obligation to fall for Naruto. He's saved her once or twice, and is a great friend, but if she's just not into him that way than it shouldn't be forced. Whatever Kishimoto wants will happen-- whether its a NS outcome or not.

Sorry if I may seem a little less enthusiastic than the rest of you guys. I'm holding out for NaruSaku, but honestly I'm just trying to keep an open mind. Being close-minded to other possibilities (like SasuSaku or NaruHina), no matter how much I personally dislike it, would only lead to more disappointment if something happens that isn't so favorable for us.

Yeah, but what about the Yamato moment at the bridge... can't really forget the other ones, NS isn't all just the confession scene... but good points, you may be right

[AzureWaters]

Yeah, but what about the Yamato moment at the bridge... can't really forget the other ones, NS isn't all just the confession scene... but good points, you may be right

When the chapter came out with the sentence I thought the same as everyone else, but since 469 was after this, the two sort of cancel one another out. If 469 proved that Sakura hadn't been in love with Naruto at that point, then the chapters before this basically meant the same. I'm not saying it wasn't a ship teasing moment, but later down the line Kishimoto made his official thoughts clear on the matter.

[Fenris]

Thank you for saving me the trouble. Some of you guys really have to read people's posts properly before replying.

When the chapter came out with the sentence I thought the same as everyone else, but since 469 was after this, the two sort of cancel one another out. If 469 proved that Sakura hadn't been in love with Naruto at that point, then the chapters before this basically meant the same. I'm not saying it wasn't a ship teasing moment, but later down the line Kishimoto made his official thoughts clear on the matter.

I've heard that Kishi said that her confession was true, though? What do you mean?
And sorry about seeming snappy earlier, I may of misunderstood you back in my other post

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Similarity, eh?

Edited by iamfenris, 19 October 2011 - 12:37 AM.

[naruto-z]

All I'm going to say is that I am very excited for tomorrow and can't wait for what tomorrow will bring for us in terms of debates!

Edited by naruto-z, 19 October 2011 - 01:23 AM.

[Fenris]

All I'm going to say is I am very excited for tomorrow and can't wait for tomorrow will bring for us in terms of debates!

Yeah. I just hope that it's not just based solely on Madaras appearance or a fight, (even though i'm excited to see the whole Madara thing.) and at least has some pairing relatedness in it.

[FoolishYoungling]

I've heard that Kishi said that her confession was true, though? What do you mean?
And sorry about seeming snappy earlier, I may of misunderstood you back in my other post

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Similarity, eh?

MinaKush=NaruSaku.. similar in too many ways!

[Fenris]

MinaKush=NaruSaku.. similar in too many ways!

Yeah That's kind of what keeps my belief in NS going... Especially the way Kushina explained how she HAAAATED Minato to Naruto when they met. It reminded me so much of a certain pink haired ninja. o: