The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:29 PM

It's really not that big of a deal for their birth years. Older or younger, it won't make a difference in the manga.

for some reason it would be kind of weird to me if Sakura is the oldest ...

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:32 PM

i heard he started writing it in 95 , it wasn't published til 99 . lets be real he had to put alot of time into writing the whole concept and making the characters and thinking of the Jutsu its no way he developed everything in 99 and had it published in the same year .

Kishimoto started to be a professional mangaka in 1995 by writing Karakuri (he himself said that Karakuri was been his first manga drawned), not started to think about naruto. He launched the oneshot of Naruto in 1997 with a different story respect to this actual. Then he modified it due to editor's tips and started to launch Naruto in 1999.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:35 PM

i could have sworn he said he was thinking about Naruto since college also ...

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:35 PM

for some reason it would be kind of weird to me if Sakura is the oldest ...

Maybe your thought is that the girl should be younger ? But, it won't make a difference in the manga, not to mention that there's only one year between them if she was the oldest.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:36 PM

Maybe your thought is that the girl should be younger ? But, it won't make a difference in the manga, not to mention that there's only one year between them if she was the oldest.

its either she is a year under them or they was born in the same year ... with ehr some months difference ...

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:40 PM

It doesn't matter who's older or younger, so long it's not a big gap. Otherwise, pairing won't happen. This usually happens for teenager manga/anime. Adult, well, I guess it's free-for-all maybe.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:05 PM

Not the ages again... :lol:

for some reason it would be kind of weird to me if Sakura is the oldest ...

You know, Temari is 3 years older than Shikamaru.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:38 PM

Not the ages again...

You know, Temari is 3 years older than Shikamaru.

I still can't believe that. How did I miss that?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:01 PM

Oh no ages again...

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:00 PM

does anybody know which episode is this?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:01 PM

does anybody know which episode is this?

It's from a movie. The second shippuden movie I think.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:15 PM

does anybody know which episode is this?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:20 PM

@pshyco
Yes I agree. Oh about Hinata, I don't hate her character, and the reason she become so popular is, she is overrate by the fan and overhyped by kishi. The other character who get the same treatment is itachi and minato.

Perriot had a hand in it too.

I checked the wikia, and it's hilarious how many "anime only" jutsu Hinata has. :lmao:

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:24 PM

@pshyco
Yes I agree. Oh about Hinata, I don't hate her character, and the reason she become so popular is, she is overrate by the fan and overhyped by kishi. The other character who get the same treatment is itachi and minato.

Im sorryyyyy :arg:

but everything in this post is wrong.
1.kishi never hyped hinatas character.
2.hinata isnt so popular, for reasons I've explained tons of times.
3.hinata isnt hyped by all the fans, mostly in the west only, a minority. Not at all in japan.
4.many other characters such as team 7, shikamaru and many other characters (not team 8) have got this luxury.

I think one reason is that the second love competitor will always be more well received. *Example Nisekoi: Onodera is generally more well loved than Chitoge*

Another reason by nh fans is this : [Sakura <3 Sasuke, most people dislike Sasuke = so they dislike Sakura as well, Hinata <3 Naruto, most people like Naruto = so they like hinata as well.] That only applies to a minority of nh fanbase though. Naruto and Minato got so much hate because of 631

But the best reason is just this: [NaruHina's popular because Hinata's popular. Hinata's popular because she's the alternate to Sakura. That's really all there is to it. -Some MF User][/size]

Oh and hating sakura is a trend for teens/kids too. I've talked to some neutral fans and some have admit that they absolutely detest sakura in the past for no reason, just because of their teenage agnsty feels

Hinata isnt loved more than sakura in the west. Its just that there are quite a few sakura haters in the west, but that doesnt mean her haters are more than her lovers.

For example. In japan hinata isnt treated better than sakura by the author or even by the fans and in the media, since naturally sakura is the heroine.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:26 PM

Perriot had a hand in it too.

I checked the wikia, and it's hilarious how many "anime only" jutsu Hinata has.

Anime Hinata is being treated like a create-a-character, always something new come in. Surprised that Kishi don't adapt it. I know the game does but I guess that's because it's one way to separate Neji before it looks like vanilla Street Fighter 2 with Ken and Ryu.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:32 PM

Perriot had a hand in it too.

I checked the wikia, and it's hilarious how many "anime only" jutsu Hinata has.

, lol , anime counts too , for some reasons ^^. oh , did it mention that she is a medic too

Just talked to a nh fan he thinks that the biggest thread to NS is Sasuke :lmao: , the guy with 0 interest in Sakura .
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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

if thats the case then Kishimoto is ruining his own stuff and doens't even realize it . But I guess since she held his hand already that its done and Hinata's chapter is finished and all she is used for is her Byakugan lols . A human x-ray vision . SS is horrible . NH is one sided and NS the both of them is shown with feelings toward each other , NS is one thing Kishi has been consistent about . chpater 573 pretty much made SS die because Kishi states that Sasuke is coming back to kill lots of people .

What she meant in 633 wasnt romantic. She said that she wanted to be by his side and that naruto keeps improving and that she'll keep improving as well even if its one step. I dont see kishi ruining his manga. I see him finishing hinatas character.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:43 PM

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Thanks a lot!

Hinata isnt loved more than sakura in the west. Its just that there are quite a few sakura haters in the west, but that doesnt mean her haters are more than her lovers.

For example. In japan hinata isnt treated better than sakura by the author or even by the fans and in the media, since naturally sakura is the heroine.

In the manga site I frequent, there'll be Hinata / Naruhina pics in 3/5 of the ads below every page . I'm so sick seeing those pictures over and over again :arg:

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:46 PM

No, Kaiba is a rival. He spent his time trying to beat Yugi, but Yugi was always better. And at least Kaiba actually did stuff. Whether he succeeded or failed, he still did stuff and not constantly contemplate what kind of person he was. There were time Yugi had to save Kaiba and this urked Kaiba pushing him to be better at dueling.

Vegata was a rival who wanted to beat Goku. Who trained and fought at times with people to gain power. He knew what he wanted and he chose any path to get it. In the end, he knew that he couldn't beat Goku and decided to live knowing he will always be second best no matter how hard he trained.

Sasuke isn't even a rival because while yes, he was jealous of Naruto at times, his goal wasn't "I have to beat Naruto. I have to be the best." His goals were "I have to get revenge." At best all he wanted to do was fight Naruto. He already believes he is the strongest and thinks he can kill Naruto with little effort. So what kind of rival is he to Naruto? Compared to the other better well-known rivals, he lacks the rivalry part.

Sasuke wasn't even well written from the start and the only rivalry he really did was in being a "love interest" which he had no care for in the first place. So I think you are really wrong here. Sakura may have been useless in the beginning, but Sasuke has been pointless throughout the entire manga. Merely an excuse to add drama.

People complain about the useless drama in this manga and I have to say most of it would be gone if Sasuke was never a character in this one. I will stand by this even if you, Dark, try to prove how "important" he was in part 1.

I personally like sasuke :umm:

I think hes well developed *dont kill me*
And no, sakura wasnt useless during part 1, trust me. :yes:

she was very useful, shes the heroine.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:48 PM

Lol.

That and I would like Sakura go back to either new look or old look to end it all. Heck, I want Naruto to enter with a cape for the final battle as if to say, "Hokage coming through." So yeah, I want everyone in their own look in the end.

Same here. There has to a be short break to develop the final moments for th manga. It wouldn't man sense anyways. If you look at it. Sasuke is still way under powered. He has to be brought up to par. I se him some how getting assisted by madara in this department. Once naruto gets his next power up he is gonna start flaring with jealousy.

And I do agree with you about the new look. I think it's obvious. I mean if there is a break, h
Naruto will def get some new threads, heck his current close are torn and in shambles.

And I don't think it end next year. I still see about a 100 chapters worth of story left.