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#59261 Atheck

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 01:58 AM

I don't know, but promoting a movie costs a lot of money. Promoting in general is very expansive, don't underestimate how much it costs to promote and advertise


Which is why I'm considering 50% of the production costs to be a adequate assumption for the amount of money spent on promotional content and airing time. Altogether that's ¥2.13 billion worth of expenditures for "The Last".
 

But, are those markets whiling to spend as much as the people from the US are?


The US does have the largest population of those 7 countries which "The Last" is being exported to, but it's not the majority of people in the potential market. I think The Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia's accumulative fanbases would be the greater market to try and seize compared to just the US, as insane as that might sound.
 

But I'm also certain they're going to theatrically release it in big cities on other countries too, so it'll still cost them.


No doubt, but it may not cost as much to air the film in some place like Jakarta versus New York city. Don't quote me on that, however.

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 01:59 AM

Whoa! Man...

I'm guessing you saw what I saw right? lol


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 01:59 AM

Just when you thought the Last couldn't be advertised stupidly enough...

... you see this

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G . I . N . T . A . M .A

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“The country? The skies? You can have them! I'm busy enough protecting what's in front of me. I don't know how many times I failed to protect what I wanted. I have nothing left, so at least if something has fallen at my feet, I'll pick it up."
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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:00 AM

I'm guessing you saw what I saw right? lol

What do you guys mean? I'm curious :chuckle:


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#59265 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:00 AM

I'm guessing you saw what I saw right? lol

What did you saw?  :hm:



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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:00 AM

It was one of her reasons for being happy for Hinata getting Naruto. Something about her shyness :facepalm:

Yeah, all characters just have to surrender to Hinata-sama lol. NH fans always ignored his feelings for Sakura, Sasuke and basically every character except Hinata, so yup.

Kishi might as well rename the manga Hinata. :zaru:
Right? :twitch: and that's what almost every single NH argument boils down to "she deserves him" :facepalm:

Stalkers/creeps are technically shy, should I also love stalkers/creeps because they're shy? 

I just can't anymore


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:01 AM

I'm guessing you saw what I saw right? lol

Hahaha, yyyyes...



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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:01 AM

also, naruto gets praised for putting sakura's feelings above his own, but i think i'm gonna have to call bullsh** on that. that selfless act isn't winning him any brownie points. naruto should have smacked some sense into sakura by telling her that sasuke is no good for her at all. forget playing the nice guy act, lives are at stake here. he doesn't have to necessarily tell her to be with him because he treats her like a human being. he should just say that there are so much better guys out there for her and leave it at that.
 
ns wasn't as realistic as i hoped it would be, so the chances of the two sitting down and having a conversation about their feelings were slim to none.


Naruto should've dropped his mission of bringing Sasuke back to Sakura the moment the former tried to kill her. He didn't really love Sakura if he still wanted her with her attempted murderer. Such a stupid kittening story.

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:02 AM

also, naruto gets praised for putting sakura's feelings above his own, but i think i'm gonna have to call bullsh** on that. that selfless act isn't winning him any brownie points. naruto should have smacked some sense into sakura by telling her that sasuke is no good for her at all. forget playing the nice guy act, lives are at stake here. he doesn't have to necessarily tell her to be with him because he treats her like a human being. he should just say that there are so much better guys out there for her and leave it at that.

 

ns wasn't as realistic as i hoped it would be, so the chances of the two sitting down and having a conversation about their feelings were slim to none.

 

 

Honestly, I disagree on part of that. I see what you're saying, but you can't fault Naruto for being the "nice guy". I think he should have told her to wake the kitten up though.

 

I'm going way out on a vine here, but luffy's post made me think about this. Yeah, Naruto gets a lot of praise for putting Sakura's feelings first and wanting to see her happy and bring back Sasuke. But luffy is right; he should have smacked her down and told her how awful Sasuke was for her.

We criticize NH and SS a lot for the self-insert aspect of the pairings. Beta males who want to get a girl like Hinata and teenage girls who want Sasuke. But there's some room for self-insert in NS, too. That awful type of "nice guy" stuff you see. I see them in fanfic profiles all the time. "If you talk to her on the phone after her boyfriend dumps her." "If you let her cry on your shoulder." "If you pick her up drunk from a party." You guys know what I'm talking about.

That's the awful kinda "nice guy" that ends up shooting up a sorority because women won't sleep with him.

 

And all of this just confirms what we already know. Not only did Kishi's inability to portray romance destroy the story. Not only did it require a bunch of retcon and abandonment of important themes and narratives. But all the pairings reflect awful views on men, women, and the nature of relationships.



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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:02 AM

i believe Sakura was asking Naruto not telling him and since he didn't say anything she ran with it, that he only loved her because of his rivalry with sasuke. Even though sai and a number of others would of told her that was false.Also she didn't have any reason to question it,since he kept trying to bring sasuke back even though she and the others accepted him as a criminal, and wanted to kill him to free Naruto for the POAL. [/size]

She really didn't, but I know the movie was just using this as some BS excuse for it to make Hinata not look like a silver medal, all at the cost of making Naruto look like a jackass though :facepalm:
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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:02 AM

Just when you thought the Last couldn't be advertised stupidly enough...

... you see this

Hahaha, the last chocolate :argh: Ew...


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:03 AM

Honestly, I disagree on part of that. I see what you're saying, but you can't fault Naruto for being the "nice guy". I think he should have told her to wake the kitten up though.

but naruto is the guy who specializes in people's feelings, so why didn't he address the glaring problem for sakura's character? for example, if my mom starts dating some douchebag i'll tell her to do better. but if my mom starts dating a guy that attempts to put his hands on her, i'll be sending that guy to the emergency room. no way in hell i'm gonna stand by and watch the person i love get treated like kitten. if she's not smart enough to make the decisions on her own, then you do it for her. it shows how much you love the person.

 

that's another problem that i have with ns, there's no damn communication.


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:03 AM

What did you saw?  :hm:

Let me pm you lol


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:03 AM

Just when you thought the Last couldn't be advertised stupidly enough...

... you see this

Genuinely curious about what Cherry Blossoms taste like.
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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:05 AM

Genuinely curious about what Cherry Blossoms taste like.

Taste like leaves :lulz:



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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:06 AM

 

 

 

I'm going way out on a vine here, but luffy's post made me think about this. Yeah, Naruto gets a lot of praise for putting Sakura's feelings first and wanting to see her happy and bring back Sasuke. But luffy is right; he should have smacked her down and told her how awful Sasuke was for her.

We criticize NH and SS a lot for the self-insert aspect of the pairings. Beta males who want to get a girl like Hinata and teenage girls who want Sasuke. But there's some room for self-insert in NS, too. That awful type of "nice guy" stuff you see. I see them in fanfic profiles all the time. "If you talk to her on the phone after her boyfriend dumps her." "If you let her cry on your shoulder." "If you pick her up drunk from a party." You guys know what I'm talking about.

That's the awful kinda "nice guy" that ends up shooting up a sorority because women won't sleep with him.

 

And all of this just confirms what we already know. Not only did Kishi's inability to portray romance destroy the story. Not only did it require a bunch of retcon and abandonment of important themes and narratives. But all the pairings reflect awful views on men, women, and the nature of relationships.

Wait, self-insert of good guy is horrible too? lol

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:06 AM

What do you guys mean? I'm curious :chuckle:

 

 

Just when you thought the Last couldn't be advertised stupidly enough...

... you see this

Glad I don't like chocolates lol Also,  :chuckle:


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:06 AM

Just when you thought the Last couldn't be advertised stupidly enough...

... you see this


So Toneri's vanilla and Sasuke is chocolate? Lol. Also "cherry blossom" isn't even a flavor. Sakura's should have just been cherry. How did Hinata get "lemon"? Grape or blueberry would've fit her better.

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:07 AM

Taste like leaves :lulz:

Ew :sick:
Pass :down:

And wtf, Green Tea chocolate :wot:
Who would even remotely have any kind of interest in eating that :wot: :wot: :wot:
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Posted 23 January 2015 - 02:08 AM

Which is why I'm considering 50% of the production costs to be a adequate assumption for the amount of money spent on promotional content and airing time. Altogether that's ¥2.13 billion worth of expenditures for "The Last".
 

The US does have the largest population of those 7 countries which "The Last" is being exported to, but it's not the majority of people in the potential market. I think The Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia's accumulative fanbases would be the greater market to try and seize compared to just the US, as insane as that might sound.
 

No doubt, but it may not cost as much to air the film in some place like Jakarta versus New York city. Don't quote me on that, however.

Well, you're probably right of it being half of the cost

I just thought you were saying that they're costs couldn't be that high

 

It doesn't sound insane, but I just want to know the fan bases from those countries would pay the most money 

 

Guess we'll have to leave the theater cost conversation since we don't really know what it costs for other countries compared to the US

 

Just when you thought the Last couldn't be advertised stupidly enough...

... you see this

Still advertising Sasuke who barely had a minute in the movie 

No surprise 


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