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[milan kyuubi]

What do you mean?

 

He/she probably means that Kishi messed up the story so bad. That 90% of NS fandom can't even watch new episodes. Or reread old chapters. Since it bring disgust to them!

 

Even neautral fans are calling BS. The only ones ok/happy are the biased NH/SS fans. And those who only watched Naruto without ever taking it seriously!

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
He/she probably means that Kishi messed up the story so bad. That 90% of NS fandom can't even watch new episodes. Or reread old chapters. Since it bring disgust to them!
 
Even neautral fans are calling BS. The only ones ok/happy are the biased NH/SS fans. And those who only watched Naruto without ever taking it seriously!

I see.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Well sorry miss ginger bread eater

I feel hungry now D:

You lil kittens are talking about the theme I've posted but didn't read it. I hate you all 

Wait, watt?

[CynMichi]

Does anyone else think that Bolt looks like a gangster lol
EDIT: and what is it about blonde uzumaki's that attract the stalkers

When I sent my sister (a Bleach fan) a link to 700 she immediately said the same thing I was thinking Super Saiyan Gohan ! It's like Kishi went full on Toriyama fanboy with this last chapter!! All we need is Sasuke to don his turban and train with Burrito in isolation so he can be a good surrogate father to Naruto's son! His daughter btw can't be trained lest it's in the art of domesticity cause ...lady parts!!

[Tsuki Hoshino]

When I sent my sister (a Bleach fan) a link to 700 she immediately said the same thing I was thinking Super Saiyan Gohan ! It's like Kishi went full on Toriyama fanboy with this last chapter!! All we need is Sasuke to don his turban and train with Burrito in isolation so he can be a good surrogate father to Naruto's son! His daughter btw can't be trained lest it's in the art of domesticity cause ...lady parts!!

Omg....AHAHAAAHAHAA. Too funny.

Lol...pls someone photoshop The Sauce in a turban...

[Gaara's hair]

I feel hungry now D:
Wait, watt?

[Lady Lys]

Mad props for the best use of that gif yet XD

I'm here to please.

[ultranx]

 

HEY, DORKS!

 

 

Well, this is my own version of the theories that some people are giving. I do know that this could end not being the case, so, well, unlike most of you I have reasons to believe this have a certain percentage to be true. Once again, maybe it’s not the case, but that doesn’t dismiss my reasons, because they are enough to suspect.

I believe most of you have already surrendered. I don’t want to give you false hopes if turns to be false, so you are reading this by your own will. Anyway, if you are in total denial and have already accepted NH/SS is the end game, life sucks, you hate Sakura, Naruto, the fly right there, the sound of people laughing, then, don’t even bother to read this or try to reply at this, because I don’t want to hear you.

In any case, there I go.

For all we know, the OOC-ness began with Sakura asking Sasuke to go with her. Some of you may think that it bagan with her “ignoring Naruto” when she finds them, but I will half disagree. She healed both of them, it’s just that Sasuke needed to say sorry.

 

 

This is Sakura IN character. She loves him, she wanted to save him, but she’s still resentful about it. She first doesn’t want to hear him, he says sorry anyway and she breaks and say “You’d better damn well be”.

However, the nightmare begins when Sasuke decides to go and she ask to go with him. That’s not the Sakura we know. Even some of the SS fans that “loves” Sakura—and I say ‘”loves” because how you can ship her with someone that hurts her in that way? – noticed that. I mean, they defended to the end that Sakura is more mature now, that she’s not the fangirl of before, and, because that, their love/relationship would be good once Sasuke is redeemed. Guess what, she’s practically a single-mother in the last chapter. But we are speaking about 699 first, so, the thing here is that Sakura would never let the village when they need her the most along with Tsunade. Isn’t Sakura supposed to know what the priorities are? I mean, just take a look at Sakura’s confession. After they knew what Sasuke was doing, Naruto’s life in danger and her village itself, she made a decision. If she could do it or not has nothing to do with it, because she already knew what comes first. They know too, at least, about NS friendship. Some of them shipped Narusaku as BROTP. But that friendship is also ruined in those few panels. Because, right away Sasuke is in the village, Sakura is up to him. What is that? Did she just used Naruto to get Sasuke? That’s not the Sakura we all know. And contradicts the manga itself. Sakura haters may be happy because their prejudices came “true”, but for the people that understood Sakura’s character knows that she’s not THAT.

Naruto probably didn’t confess because he heard what Sakura said. And for people saying Sasuke was OOC, yes it can be, but we didn’t know a Sasuke without hate, despair and feelings of void inside him. Just because you don’t like a character or believe they are 100% jerks doesn’t mean they are. Take a look at how Madara was when with Hashirama created the leaf.

Well, then 700 came out. And everything was exactly when it wasn’t supposed to be if we follow the manga’s time line.

Here is when my theory begins:

Some of you may already read Ramenanmitsu’s theory and other ones with the same feeling. Anyway, this is my variation.

Yes. Almost we all are up to the IT theory and the rest think that

• Or the “real” chapter didn’t come out, hence what we read is trolling for all the piracy they are victim of. But I really doubt this, since isn’t it too much to leak even colour pages? Before of what we have read—I mean, the scans—we’ve seen pics of the book itself (the pages of the book*). Either way, didn’t Evil tell us spoilers that came to be true? She has contacts inside, doesn’t she? And, how do you think the ones who translate the chapter gets…the chapters?
• Or that it’s over but Kishimoto feelt obligated for someone else. Since I know nothing about how these things work, I recommend you to read this http://www.narusaku....e=6#entry650084 . Reply #2.

That’s why I think a variation of Infinite Tsukuyomi can explain almost everything. And I mean almost everything because 699 is practically not remediable—even I have some ideas about how fix that but it’s highly less possible than anything—but we still can get a better ending than this one.

Okay. We have now a variation of the IT. I don’t believe it’s actually the IT we know.

The reason I believe it’s…well, because for the same IT you will need a Sharingan and a Rinnegan (?) and, for we know, Sasuke is not involved with the bad guys this time. Also, because it seems more to be “another world” than only Hinata’s perspective. Why? Because then Bolt wouldn’t be problematic or Naruto so busy. They will have had the perfect life. And because it also involves other people’s lives/feelings as not satisfied. If it were just Hinata’s IT, then we probably would have seen all from Hinata’s perspective. As if we’re her, not things she’s not interested about or she doesn’t know.

Kishimoto created a different version of the IT for RTN, why can’t do the same for this movie? I mean, in the manga says that Naruto have never talk with Hinata, but in the movie there is a flashback, so who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Anyway, I could be wrong. There are things that can indicate that it is, indeed, Hinata’s IT dream. Her life along Naruto not being 100% perfect with Naruto, as should be if we are talking about IT, can be her conscience about Naruto not loving her, etc. Any way it can’t explain how other people’s feelings were showed too. Even people she doesn’t know about. I mean… the cat girl with Kiba? ¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯

I believe is something more like RTN IT version but where they aren’t fully aware of it. Imagine the people just waking up in that world, singly confused, but with that world’s memories, so they aren’t really aware it’s an IT. An Infinite Tsukuyomi where all people’s desires combine and creates a “new world”. Have you seen Bruce Almighty? What happened to Bruce when he tried to solve everyone’s problems? A mess, chaos and more dissatisfaction. One’s desire can block something somewhere and it becomes a cycle that never ends.

One of the leaked designs of the other day contain Hinata with a dress.

She’s going to be kidnapped, right? And thanks to this translation

http://www.narusaku....e=6#entry650991

I can say that Toneri is apparently interested in Hinata more than anything. And this dress indicates a twisted wedding or part of a ritual. Typical cliché, if you ask me. She will be probably controlled in some way.  And maybe…the rescue team fails? And this is how the variation of the IT begins. At the end, this will be solved, because people will realize they are not happy, they really want something else, etc.

Why do I suspect that? Because of some elements, such as Sasusaku’s daughter looking like Karin or Naruhina’s kids with a cherry blossom hair. I mean, how even???

 

At the end, this could be about Hinata finally moving on.

So, how can we fix then the final chapter? Releasing another one after the movie is out. Someone here in H&E told me that, months ago, he read somewhere that for the ones who see the movie it will be a new chapter. Isn’t going to be an early release for the movie? For some “lucky” ones the tickets will be raffled? Either way the rumor about a new chapter after the early movie release may be false, but who knows? Maybe there will actually be one more chapter for all of us after the movie in December. For what I remember, Kishimoto’s assistant said that he drew along with Kishimoto and someone else (I believe?) 32 pages for the final chapter. But wasn’t it 21? I mean, for chapter 700. Either way, if I’m wrong in this last one it doesn’t affect anything I’ve said.

Now, you may be thinking why Kishimoto would do something like this?

Because it’s his big ending and he’s… a bit dramatic, don’t you think? He may have exaggerate in some things or drag the resolution of the romance sub-plot to the end. But you really think he’s stupid enough to poop in his own work which cost 15 years and time with his family? He has invested too much for just ruining everything.

The movie is being worked since almost…two years, isn’t it? What have we get in that time? From the interview about Sakura’s confession, Minato’s comment, CPR, SK and NS mirrored, more Hinata’s literally falling when she tried to be the person at Naruto’s side, more negative moments to add to Sasusaku’s relationship.

I mean, if we were “trolled” because the manga was up to be interpreted as a Narusaku ending, work of 15 years. Why can’t he troll NH/SS making them believe they are canon? How crazy is really that? Hinata’s feelings need a closure, after all and she’s a popular character, so… since he wasn’t able to do that in the manga, he decided to make a movie.

If it weren’t like that, he wouldn’t add to much positive moments for NS in the time he was making the movie. He would have foreshadowed NH and SS, but he didn’t. He could have make Hinata met Minato, but he didn’t. He could have make Hinata not fail to reach Naruto, but he didn’t. He could have make Sakura be with Sasuke instead of Karin, but he didn’t. He could have make Sasuke be more aware of Sakura’s life in danger, but he didn’t. Two years making the movie and drawing the manga and the end doesn’t match at all. That’s why I believe this is not the end.

The only thing I can’t really justify is 699. That chapter has Sakura blushing, with that destroys NS friendship, Sakura’s final development and kind of foreshadowed the possibility of him falling for her in a future…and she accepting him. Which is why he probably didn’t confess, which is why he went to Hinata (I’m not saying he doesn’t love her if this is the case, but that his feelings aren’t 100% positive for the relationship), which is why he doesn’t eat from Hinata’s bento and instead eats instant ramen and keeps himself busy* since he bottled up his feelings for Sakura.

(*This is an interpretation for the following reason right there.)

And so on, and so on.

I said early that I have an explanation for 699 but I also said that it was the less likely of all. And is that… for the sake of preparing people to 700, he drew that Sasusaku scene and Hinata alongside Naruto in Neji’s funeral. Either way, is too much, and what if after the movie he releases two chapters? One replacing 699, more like some scenes and 700, obviously. But as I said, I hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighly doubt this, so we are doomed about 699 anyway.

 

Well, those are my thoughts. I hope it was well explained.

 

If it turns not to be like this, then, indeed, Kishi has ruined his own manga breaking the continuity. And I'll be done forever and ever. 

#Bye.

 

 

I think maybe it is an IT, nothing adds up 0.0 I know I said I wasn't gonna comment but I've been having a strange day xD

Edited by ultranx, 08 November 2014 - 06:50 PM.

[Gaara's hair]

When I sent my sister (a Bleach fan) a link to 700 she immediately said the same thing I was thinking Super Saiyan Gohan ! It's like Kishi went full on Toriyama fanboy with this last chapter!! All we need is Sasuke to don his turban and train with Burrito in isolation so he can be a good surrogate father to Naruto's son! His daughter btw can't be trained lest it's in the art of domesticity cause ...lady parts!!

So mister Sasuke is going to train Bolt and grow a bond with him while leaving his own family behind?!

[ALEX SENJU]

Reposting this from movie thread!

 

I'll say it again! NS was real, then something happened behind the scene. Probably when the info about Naruto only having 5 chapters came out. That felt so rushed!

 

It's clear that even Kishi didn't like the ending! Look what he did. He shat upon everything!

 

What happened I don't know. But I think if anyone who had the power to force Kishi to do something he didn't want. It would be SJ! They probably already planed part 3. And made Kishi change his ending to suit their new story.

 

Heck the new story is not even being written by Kishi. Shows that he never even planed part 3. But the SJ wanted to milk more cash. Which will never work. Since it's something everybody know. In 99% sequels suck!

^This, all they care about is $ heck they are even continuing the anime after the manga *sigh*

[Lady Lys]

So mister Sasuke is going to train Bolt and grow a bond with him while leaving his own family behind?!

OMG that made me snort the water up my nose. Imo that's totally something he would do, 'cause  --> Kishi =/= Logic.

Edited by Lady Lys, 08 November 2014 - 06:53 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

The next Starbucks I see I'm getting the gingerbread latte liquified ginger people,MmmMmmm.

I'm here to please.

Dr.reed can also psychoanalyze me any day ;D

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 08 November 2014 - 06:57 PM.

[milan kyuubi]

^This, all they care about is $ heck they are even continuing the anime after the manga *sigh*

 

Don't worry it's all going bloow out. Many Naruto fans are only manga readers. And I doubt any anime fan will watch the episodes beyond Guy vs Madara, NS vs Madara/Kaguya!

 

Soon like other shows Naruto will be "forgoten". Probably mentoined here and there like DB. But nothing beyond that.

 

It will be like fillers in part 1! XD

Edited by milan kyuubi, 08 November 2014 - 06:57 PM.

[MangaReader]

I did make a second stare dad poster if anyone wants to see it

[Gaara's hair]

The next Starbucks I see I'm getting the gingerbread latte liquified ginger people,MmmMmmm.

 

^This, all they care about is $ heck they are even continuing the anime after the manga *sigh*

Are they really?

[Lady Lys]

Dr.reed can also psychoanalyze me any day ;D

Ditto, ditto I have such a ridiculous crush on him, it's almost funny... But no more fangirlage lest we become too much like the type of women Kishi would like 

[Gaara's hair]

Ditto, ditto I have such a ridiculous crush on him, it's almost funny... But no more fangirlage lest we become too much like the type of women Kishi would like 

Stalkers 

[MangaReader]

Just cancelled my typing of Naruto Shippuden and deleted my saved episodes... couldn't even force myself to watch Sakura's Tears

[milan kyuubi]

I had a funny thought. Is us keeping posting about NS. Makes even harder to move on?

Edited by milan kyuubi, 08 November 2014 - 07:02 PM.

[Lady Lys]

Stalkers 

Oh NOES you discovered us!!! (maybe we should have hidden ourselves behind a wall... )

Tsuki our cover is blown!!!!