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[RyohkiFan]

I need help...I can't stop listening to TG and Parasyte OP...

[rocci]

Uh huh! Double standards are everywhere! They hate Sakura for being a damsel in distress everytime but forget that Hinata is no different. Atleast Sakura can stand her own....Hinata cannot even do that!

That because Hinata doesn't has rival. Have kishi make a pure tsundere that love naruto too, Hinata will not as popular as now.
But I don't think it will help NS.

[rocci]

I need help...I can't stop listening to TG and Parasyte OP...

I like tg opening.

[Gaara's hair]

I need help...I can't stop listening to TG and Parasyte OP...

No, keep listening :) Good night again everyone.

[LuckyChi7]

Your cousin, a reasonable NH fan. How does she feel towards that couple now btw?

Well, I personally never realized this before, but a post opened my eyes to the unfair distribution of male and female team members. It's always one girl per team, no more, but sometimes not one at all.

It's not really sexist, but remember the flashback with Ino and Sakura doing this flower arranging? Never understood what the whole deal about that was, but wiki said this:

"Girls must attend kunoichi classes, where they are taught about other cultures and how skills such as flower arranging will help them to blend in during an infiltration mission." So girls are being taught to become spies?

 

Well as far as the manga goes She's been really disgusted at how other NH fans are like OMG DID KISHI's genius writing. 

 

Instead of having this as her reaction    like the other typical NH fanboys. 

 

She's basically doing this to the other NH fans and toward the couple as far as manga standards go

 

 

 

 

Ria still ships them, but she's got her own little head canon of how NH can happen logically and I kinda liked her idea.  If you want I can tell you what you how she pictured it happening logically. 

 

 

Coming to your question, I just don't know anymore, The series in of itself had set up alot of groundwork on the world and the characters in Part 1. Then Part 2 kinda betrays some of those rules like the sharingan for instance on both Obito and Kakashi, So when it comes to girls being spies by gardening flowers I mean okay, more should've been built upon it. Like did these flowers contain a deadly posion or something? That could've been something for the kunoichis to do gardening.   

[RyohkiFan]

No, keep listening :) Good night again everyone.

AHHH Night

[luffyq1]

Come again, where was it? Totally not here.

i'm not going to hold your hand and direct you to every post discussing about how naruto's feelings were dismissed.
 

And about other - so you saying there was no such women as Karin-type?

no. what i'm saying is if he's going to portray something so negative, at least make it be a stepping stone for the character, like some of us actually believed that was the direction he was going at one point.
 

Because she from the first time was portraited as someone who is totally crazy over Sasuke.

and where exactly did all of this stuff lead to anyway? absolutely nowhere. it was pointless, and i wasted my time reading that fangilring crap because it amounted to nothing. there was never a lesson to be learned. that's how kishi views women and we have to deal with it.
 

And I can see that kind of women.

ok
 

One thing - Karin that had her ways and reasons for Sasuke his, other way - Sakura and her contradicted moves that went totally against all development she had.

karin could fall in love with sasuke for the shallowest reasons and she'd still love him no matter what, even if he tortured her with tsukuyomi.

Edited by luffyq1, 22 January 2015 - 05:10 AM.

[Aizen-Sama]

Hinata being Naruto's 2nd choice is what makes me not like NH. For awhile Sasuke took the back seat to Naruto for Sakura and we all thought Naruto had become her 1st choice. Hinata was never shown as #1 for Naruto in his mind. She was just sorta his back up when Sakura married Sasuke. Hero gets dumped by girl so he marries dorky girl instead. It really is a sad love story.

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 22 January 2015 - 05:11 AM.

[luffyq1]

Hinata being Naruto's 2nd choice is what makes me not like NH. For awhile Sasuke took the back seat to Naruto for Sakura and we all thought Naruto had become her 1st choice. Hinata was never shown as #1 for Naruto in his mind. She was just sorta his back up when Sakura married Sasuke. Hero gets dumped by girl so he marries dorky girl instead. It really is a sad love story.

well hinata got a big promotion because she's number one now. in fact, she's the most important person in naruto's life.

 

mom? lol yeah right

 

dad? nope

 

sasuke? nah

 

sakura? no way

 

iruka? sorry ain't happening

 

kakashi? better luck next time

 

hinata takes 1st place in naruto's life.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Pretty funny that I can't credit SP for TG season 2 since it's from Ishida himself. Which begs the question, what's with the tease with hero/heroine? I should lift my hiatus.

[Aizen-Sama]

well hinata got a big promotion because she's number one now. in fact, she's the most important person in naruto's life.
 
mom? lol yeah right
 
dad? nope
 
sasuke? nah
 
sakura? no way
 
iruka? sorry ain't happening
 
kakashi? better luck next time
 
hinata takes 1st place in naruto's life.

Of course an entire movie was made to switch around the roles-- Naruto friendzoning Sakura and Hinata becoming his #1 dream girl. Can't have the hero settling. The whole movie is made to cover that up.

[rocci]

@aizen
I don't have any problem with second choice. But the problem is studio Pierrot want Hinata as naruto first choice to the point retconing naruto feeling. I don't like it.
Naruto is sakura second choice.

@luffy
Just read recent sunahara wataru doujin, man I just realize that sakura look like kushina. Damn you kishi.

[narusaku256]

Hinata being Naruto's 2nd choice is what makes me not like NH. For awhile Sasuke took the back seat to Naruto for Sakura and we all thought Naruto had become her 1st choice. Hinata was never shown as #1 for Naruto in his mind. She was just sorta his back up when Sakura married Sasuke. Hero gets dumped by girl so he marries dorky girl instead. It really is a sad love story.

He doesn't even give quality time to his family. "A ninja must endure" really shows how unwanted Bolt is for Naruto. It seems like...he just cannot love Bolt!

[trang95]

I need help...I can't stop listening to TG and Parasyte OP...

It's too late. There's no helping you anymore. I'm having the same problem.

 

 

Well as far as the manga goes She's been really disgusted at how other NH fans are like OMG DID KISHI's genius writing. 

 

Instead of having this as her reaction    like the other typical NH fanboys. 

 

She's basically doing this to the other NH fans and toward the couple as far as manga standards go

 

 

 

 

Ria still ships them, but she's got her own little head canon of how NH can happen logically and I kinda liked her idea.  If you want I can tell you what you how she pictured it happening logically. 

 

 

Coming to your question, I just don't know anymore, The series in of itself had set up alot of groundwork on the world and the characters in Part 1. Then Part 2 kinda betrays some of those rules like the sharingan for instance on both Obito and Kakashi, So when it comes to girls being spies by gardening flowers I mean okay, more should've been built upon it. Like did these flowers contain a deadly posion or something? That could've been something for the kunoichis to do gardening.   

Sure, just pm me this headcannon. I neither like NH nor SS and never will, but I still think NH is x1000 better than SS.

Imao, your cousin's awesome. I'm tired arguing with NH fans.

I just thought back then that girls had to learn doing flowers b/c it was a womanly thing to do as a housewife? I was twelve back then, so I have no idea why I thought that. I subconsciously interpretated this scene in a sexist way, imao.

[RyohkiFan]

It's too late. There's no helping you anymore. I'm having the same problem.

good music be difficult...

[LuckyChi7]

 

Sure, just pm me this headcannon. I neither like NH nor SS and never will, but I still think NH is x1000 better than SS.

Imao, your cousin's awesome. I'm tired arguing with NH fans.

I just thought back then that girls had to learn doing flowers b/c it was a womanly thing to do as a housewife? I was twelve back then, so I have no idea why I thought that. I subconsciously interpretated this scene in a sexist way, imao.

 

Alrighty then, and regarding NH and SS  it's the same thing for me tbh as far as how I see them. It's hillarious being around her when it comes to that fandom and bringing an Avatar joke into this, but she told me "I just wanna bloodbend all the NH and SS fans that believe this ending was spectacular." and I honestly couldn't help but laugh and say "Ria take it one step forward and bloodbend Kishi." 

 

Hmm I guess that's one way you an interpret this scene in that way. 

[Atheck]

He doesn't even give quality time to his family. "A ninja must endure" really shows how unwanted Bolt is for Naruto. It seems like...he just cannot love Bolt!

 

Or perhaps the spawn is supposed to be interpreted as the impetus that causes Naruto's mind to be flooded with the false oaths he made as a child that he was unable to accomplish. The spawn happens to be an avatar of the brazen outsider seeking attention that he once was. If I were in Naruto's position, I wouldn't want to be reminded of my failures and insecurities either. Fortunately for him though, a parallel to his romantic inclinations and, more importantly, to the woman whom he loves doesn't exist with this progeny. 

[luffyq1]

i bet these poor innocent souls didn't know the character they're dressing up as grows up to be a scumbag   

 
 

[narusaku256]

 
Or perhaps the spawn is supposed to be interpreted as the impetus that causes Naruto's mind to be flooded with the false oaths he made as a child that he was unable to accomplish. The spawn happens to be an avatar of the brazen outsider seeking attention that he once was. If I were in Naruto's position, I wouldn't want to be reminded of my failures and insecurities either. Fortunately for him though, a parallel to his romantic inclinations and, more importantly, to the woman whom he loves doesn't exist with this progeny. 

No one likes being reminded of their failures. But when you are reminded by your own son....something is definitely wrong!

[TouKen4Life3g]

i bet these poor innocent souls didn't know the character they're dressing up as grows up to be a scumbag   

 
 

I think all of them changed their identity.