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[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm saying is i never see sakura fighting with naruto against someome only on the RTN srsly.
the only major heroish scene was her fight against sasori but the rest she became someome who needs to be protected at any cost.
There's only one arc left.
I hope we got a fight like naruto/sakura against someome because this cant be possible.
This is the main reason that i dont call her tsundere heroine.

Oh I get it. Well let's wait and see. I do hope for one. They have great chemistry according to Kakashi, so why not utilizing once more. Time will tell and hopefully time doesn't go by so fast.

[PhenixElite]

I'm saying is i never see sakura fighting with naruto against someome only on the RTN srsly.
the only major heroish scene was her fight against sasori but the rest she became someome who needs to be protected at any cost.
There's only one arc left.
I hope we got a fight like naruto/sakura against someome because this cant be possible.
This is the main reason that i dont call her tsundere heroine.

Sakuras heroine character was mostly shown in paet 1 i think. So fact is that like i said she is(also if not shown) a heroine.
Im also pretty sure she will get her next fighting action during this arc. If not then it will be the next one. maybe something like you pointed out (team 7 vs team taca)

[Sojobo]

Obito's battle is gonna be decisive in Naruto's love story.
Every NaruSaku fan was thinking about Sakura getting hurt, or will have something similar like the OVA - Naruto X Uniqlo.

I didn't expect that Rin could have so much influence in Obito's life. She is without no doubt the most important female character in the manga right now, because she is the one who made Tobi, one of the most important vilains in the manga.

It's becoming more obvious in my mind, we know that before changing the bad guys into good guys, you have to experience the same story as them.
That's why Naruto is the only one to have influence on Sasuke (sorry Sakura), that's why he was able to change Gaara and Nagato.

He understand them because he has the same past.
Naruto would never be able to understand Sasuke without Jiraiya's death.

Obito doesn't understand Naruto, Naruto's words doesn't affect him, because Obito is convinced that he's right. A boy who don't even understand him, Obito will not listen to him, because Naruto can't proove him right now that he's right.
It's quiet obvious that Naruto will change Obito soon into a good guy, that's why I think Kishi is planning to do something similar to what Obito get trough with Rin with Naruto and Sakura.

Kishi already gave us a hint in the last chapter, the medical team will fight Obito. Is it a coincidence ? I don't think so.
I know about NH fans that are in heaven with Kiba's words, and other stuff that Kishi showed in the war Arc.

Hope they will not get dissapointed in the end. \o/

[Chucky-kun]

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Naruto and Sakura FINALLY become FRIENDS, which is a great step for Sakura, since she basically hated Naruto.
There is nothing romantic from her standpoint, cause she obviously can't yet forget Sasuke (regardless of whether she still loves him).
Now, Naruto also doesn't have romantic feelings towards Hinata, but they've been FRIENDS ever since, cause they were never in a state of hating each other, UNLIKE the uneven "relationship" he had with Sakura.
Also, I think you forgot to mention that even as far back as Chuunin Exams, Hinata had a very realistic-yet-positive attitude towards Naruto: "you're a proud failure, not perfect, but never giving up".
Sakura never looked at Naruto in this view, she started trying being friendly with him only recently, and even that can't be sure to NOT have a slight taste of "he's the only hope for Sasuke".
So, yes, she accepted his friendship, but she never truly acknowledged him as a wholesome person - the imperfect proud failure he is.
More, Hinata's "selfishness" was about her feelings towards Naruto, while Sakura's - about her feelings towards Sasuke, a totally THIRD person.
Also, this "selfishness" led Hinata to nearly sacrifice her life to SAVE Naruto, while Sakura tried to KILL even the guy she "loves" - instead of never giving up on him, like Naruto STILL does.
Sakura is a much worse failure feeling-wise, AND she didn't learn a bit from Naruto's nindo, unlike Hinata.
It really seems that some fans can't view this objectively, seriously...

It's an answer to my question "Can someone give me a logical reason why Nh will happen or is going to happen?"

There are so many flaws in this argument.. Lol.
1. Of course Sakura can't forget Sasuke, did you see the state INO was in after they announced Sasuke an international criminal? Imagine Sakura, sheesh.
2. Not hating someone means you're instantly friends, okay.
3. Sakura only started being friendly recently? Where has this guy been for the past 600 chapters?
4. She knows that naruto will never give up. Thats why she tried to persuade him to stop chasing after Sasuke with the confession because she knows that naruto "will never give up" Sakura is much more in sync with naruto, the argument we've been using about how she has confidence in naruto's abilities? Well she didn't have confidence in naruto's abilities during that post pain arc and with good reason. Even naruto himself said that Sasuke was stronger than him at that point in time.
5. Its true that Sakura was selfish during part 1, but a character CAN develop, I swear all the NH fans look over this part. Is it selfish that Sakura decided to confess to naruto to make sure that no harm came to him while fulfilling that promise? I think not.
6. After the confession, did Sakura not risk her own life to bring down Sasuke? Instead of having him potentially kill naruto in the future? Is this not the same concept?
7. Oh the hypocrisy of saying some fans can't view this objectively.

GG

[Atheck]

The arguments that some people create to subvert the prevalence of NaruSaku development while overly emphasizing what interactions Naruto and Hinata have had is very annoying. Generally speaking their claims can range from something like there was no romantic or non-platonic development between the two of them throughout the entire series to NaruSaku having ceased development at the Kage Summit while NH gets played up more because Kishi has changed his intentions to something as trivial as Sakura being "flat chested" (a petty and inaccurate claim) thus Naruto shouldn't have a romantic relationship with her and instead have someone who's "sexy".

It would be a daunting task to count how many excuses and attempts at revision of certain events there are throughout the Internet. I've learned that ignoring them is best because they're so steadfast in their perspectives of characters and scenes that arguing with them becomes a fruitless task. Regardless I find myself being tempted to argue anyway.

Sojobo and NaruSaku4life stated it best.

[Chucky-kun]

The arguments that some people create to subvert the prevalence of NaruSaku development while overly emphasizing what interactions Naruto and Hinata have had is very annoying. Generally speaking their claims can range from something like there was no romantic or non-platonic development between the two of them throughout the entire series to NaruSaku having ceased development at the Kage Summit while NH gets played up more because Kishi has changed his intentions to something as trivial as Sakura being "flat chested" (a petty and inaccurate claim) thus Naruto shouldn't have a romantic relationship with her and instead have someone who's "sexy".

It would be a daunting task to count how many excuses and attempts at revision of certain events there are throughout the Internet. I've learned that ignoring them is best because they're so steadfast in their perspectives of characters and scenes that arguing with them becomes a fruitless task. Regardless I find myself being tempted to argue anyway.

Sojobo and NaruSaku4life stated it best.

Like you said, sometimes it is much too tempting to disassemble an entire argument. Bit by bit, leaving them grasping for straws in desperation.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well sakura is flat chested but he loves it.

[Atheck]

Well sakura is flat chested but he loves it.

She isn't really flat. Sakura is about a large A to small B. Much of the reason for her appearing flat has to do with her loose top obscuring her figure. This is with the top tightened on her. http://i.imgur.com/M5ysR.png

Sure she isn't the same size as Hinata or Ino but she's not flat chested. I would consider characters like Shizune, Karin, and Karui to be flat.

Edited by Atheck, 08 December 2012 - 11:47 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well sakura is flat chested but he loves it.

Well yeah, main character usually go for their personality and what not, not the beauty/size. They can at first but they will learn more than just look. Anyway, Naruto didn't say anything about her body whether its good or bad. Closest we got was when he said Haku looked prettier than Sakura. Other than that, nothing changed him. If we go by filler, he seems to be great with her size, even though she will take it as a negative way. But anyway, it's rather dumb to bring up about their body looks as a factor when Naruto never considered it in love. He can be a pervert sure, but when it's love, it's different.

[Atheck]

Well yeah, main character usually go for their personality and what not, not the beauty/size. They can at first but they will learn more than just look. Anyway, Naruto didn't say anything about her body whether its good or bad. Closest we got was when he said Haku looked prettier than Sakura. Other than that, nothing changed him. If we go by filler, he seems to be great with her size, even though she will take it as a negative way. But anyway, it's rather dumb to bring up about their body looks as a factor when Naruto never considered it in love. He can be a pervert sure, but when it's love, it's different.

True. Personality and love should take precedence.

[TouKen4Life3g]

She isn't really flat. Sakura is about a large A to small B. Much of the reason for her appearing flat has to do with her loose top obscuring her figure. This is with the top tightened on her. http://i.imgur.com/M5ysR.png

Sure she isn't the same size as Hinata or Ino but she's not flat chested. I would consider characters like Shizune, Karin, and Karui to be flat.

Sakura is not that flat-chested as to say Rukia from Bleach or if we are going by Naruto, Karin. She just has them small. Probably the smallest out of K11 but whatever. Besides, I quite like her figure, especially the way Kishi drew her in her summer look back then. She has that athletic body which is pretty nice to me. Plus, she does have "that". I'll leave you with that. I'm already sounding like Jiraiya.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

She isn't really flat. Sakura is about a large A to small B. Much of the reason for her appearing flat has to do with her loose top obscuring her figure. This is with the top tightened on her. http://i.imgur.com/M5ysR.png

Sure she isn't the same size as Hinata or Ino but she's not flat chested. I would consider characters like Shizune, Karin, and Karui to be flat.

OMG here we go.
I dont know why u take flat chested as an insult, she is flat chested, i know that some tiards use this as an argument to bash sakura's character but some people find this cute which is naruto's case, he's in love with sakura because of her forehead, her smile, her flat chested dafuq is the problem, there are a lot of panels that shows her as a flat chested and other that shows her with small B, so we both are right.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 09 December 2012 - 12:40 AM.

[PhenixElite]

OMG here we go.
I dont know why u take flat chested as an insult, she is flat chested, i know that some tiards use this as an argument to bash sakura's character but some people find this cute which is naruto's case, he's in love with sakura because of her forehead, her smile, her flat chested dafuq is the problem, there are a lot of panels that shows her as a flat chested and other that shows her with small B, so we both are right.

Pls dont start that flat chested theme again, we already had that 1 month ago

[TouKen4Life3g]

Pls dont start that flat chested theme again, we already had that 1 month ago

We did? Lol. I don't care about that. Like I said, I do like her figure. Plus, she has another perk. I let you figure that out.

[Atheck]

OMG here we go.
I dont know why u take flat chested as an insult, she is flat chested, i know that some tiards use this as an argument to bash sakura's character but some people find this cute which is naruto's case, he's in love with sakura because of her forehead, her smile, her flat chested dafuq is the problem, there are a lot of panels that shows her as a flat chested and other that shows her with small B, so we both are right.

That's not an insult. I genuinely believe that she is not flat. It is wrong to criticize her character based off of her physical appearance alone but it would be incorrect to claim that she lacks any breasts at all which many users on various Naruto forums argue for.

Naruto is attracted to Sakura for various reasons but the primary one, at least in the initial stages of the manga, was that she sought acknowledgement which is the same desire that Naruto has.

[merryGOflava]

OMG here we go.
I dont know why u take flat chested as an insult, she is flat chested, i know that some tiards use this as an argument to bash sakura's character but some people find this cute which is naruto's case, he's in love with sakura because of her forehead, her smile, her flat chested dafuq is the problem, there are a lot of panels that shows her as a flat chested and other that shows her with small B, so we both are right.

i dont wanna start this up again, but sakura IS NOT flat-chested XD

this is ---> http://3.bp.blogspot...ed-idols-80.jpg

XD sakura is not that flat.

personally i dislike when people say flat-chested like willy-nilly, like any girl that doesnt have huge boobs is considered it.

sakura is normal.

Edited by merryGOflava, 09 December 2012 - 01:28 AM.

[KnS]

Sakura is not that flat-chested as to say Rukia from Bleach or if we are going by Naruto, Karin. She just has them small. Probably the smallest out of K11 but whatever. Besides, I quite like her figure, especially the way Kishi drew her in her summer look back then. She has that athletic body which is pretty nice to me. Plus, she does have "that". I'll leave you with that. I'm already sounding like Jiraiya.

That made me laugh so much. I love how honest Jiraiya was about his lustful nature. I really miss him.

As for all this talk about Sakura's body and attraction and love, I agree with the other posts here. Sakura's body type will appeal to some, while Hinata's will appeal to others. Sakura is very athletic, and in my opinion her more streamlined body visually complements her physical ninja qualities -- concentrated strength, power, and evasion among others. (Tsunade obviously has strength too, and the opposite of a streamlined body, lol, but she's supposed to have a mature figure.)

What's important is that Naruto likes and accepts Sakura the way she is. There's no explaining physical attraction. It just... happens. Back in chapter 3, Naruto thought of Sakura as "a total babe," and since then it's become obvious that Naruto feels a complex and complete attraction to her. It's like Sai said, Naruto smiles a lot around her. Something about her charges his batteries. Even Sai knew, as he stood there and could feel the vibe, that Naruto is in love with Sakura in a real and meaningful way.

Naruto's interactions with Hinata have never had anything even close to the same giddy, smiling, "you make me happy just being near you" quality that his moments with Sakura can have. As I have pointed out before, when Naruto realizes Hinata is seeking acknowledgement he sounds like a leader. A coach. He tells her she's strong and a good person, and she should believe in herself. It's focused on Hinata's feelings and contribution as a ninja.

By contrast, Sakura rarely needs or seeks acknowledgement from external sources about her skills or capability as a ninja. She interally doubts herself and her feelings, and agonizes over her personal mistakes, but she tries to take control of them herself -- albeit with questionable results, lol.

And really, one of the only clear instances of Sakura expressing a need for acknowledgement was also back in #3 -- when she told Naruto-henged-as-Sasuke that Sasuke's notice and opinion of her was very important. But despite how that must have hurt his feelings, what was Naruto's reaction? He admitted to himself that he was starting to understand what he loved about Sakura.

So far, at least, Naruto only relates to Hinata in terms of supporting her as a fellow ninja. He relates to Sakura in very personal terms. She's in his heart. There's really no comparison.

ETA: Another moment when Sakura sought acknowledgement? Was to ask Naruto if he thought she looked more womanly. Also very... personal.

Edited by KnS, 09 December 2012 - 01:51 AM.

[Atheck]

For the love of god these people are so infuriating to contend with. You guys mentioned that avoiding any arguments is a good idea but the difficulty in doing that, restraining yourself from trying to protect your perspective, is just an incredibly difficult task. I don't see how it doesn't bother any of you to refrain from becoming involved in disputes that have to do with Sakura's character or the pairing.

I'm sorry if this sounds repetitive but it's very frustrating. Are there any personal methods that you guys have with dealing with this kind of situation? Like maybe some particular thoughts that you have when reading negative discussions that help prevent you from getting involved in something that you'll regret?

Edited by Atheck, 09 December 2012 - 02:23 AM.

[Gravenimage]

For the love of god these people are so infuriating to contend with. You guys mentioned that avoiding any arguments is a good idea but the difficulty in doing that, restraining yourself from trying to protect your perspective, is just an incredibly difficult task. I don't see how it doesn't bother any of you to refrain from becoming involved in disputes that have to do with Sakura's character or the pairing.

I'm sorry if this sounds repetitive but it's very frustrating. Are there any personal methods that you guys have with dealing with this kind of situation? Like maybe some particular thoughts that you have when reading negative discussions that help prevent you from getting involved in something that you'll regret?

You must be new at this. My personal advice keep quiet and ignore any haters or opposite fandoms. I haven't had a debate with a NH or SS fan in years because I realized it's not worth it, a lot of them immediately started bashing Sakura instead of showing evidence and points to why their pairing will become canon in the manga.

[Lady_duckish]

LOL. I love when they try to make the breast argument.

It's the moment you know they've run out of fuel.