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#5821 Akashi

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 06:44 AM

Okay, so now I'm really depressed.
I don't know what to wait from Kishi anymore.. Last chapter showed us that he loves to troll way too much + will use more plot twists and surprises (like the fake! and real!Madara).. I'm afraid that NS is in a great danger... =((((

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 06:44 AM

Personally, I find both of Sakura's confessions to be premature and confused.

When she confessed to Sasuke (when he was leaving the village), it was out of desperation, an urgent need to keep him back in the village (even though she was in love / infactuated or whatever you want to name it, it was still a 'retaining' confession more than anything else.)

And when she confessed to Naruto, again it was out of desperation to keep him back at all cost.

To me, it's the way Sakura is, impulsive and willing to give ALL for her 'loved' ones, and to me, that's why I put both her confessions on the same balance. If she thinks her feeling for Sasuke is true, then her feelings for Naruto IS true. (Don't know whether I'm making any sense in here).

Now, what worries me in Kishi going the way he is about Naru / Hina is that he can be preparing the development that was always missing between these two. He is throwing quite a lot of small - maybe insignificant at this time but still - interactions between the two in here.

We may argue that these are too few, but hey, in romance sometimes you need only a few days to fall for someone, especially in this case it's not as if Hinata is a total stranger for Naruto.

So, my hope now is that Kishi is preparing a huge, nice Narusaku soon for us, something which we all have been forecasting (like a hug or a kiss on the forehead or whatever), something which will in one sweep will flush all these small naruhina interactions as totally insignificant.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (SakuraUzumaki417 @ Oct 14 2011, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know how you feel. I would never doubt in NS but it's getting me worried that he's having these interactions for NH. Not that it's not normal, but the whole "just look at his eyes" comment was shamefulcry0js.gif How could she tell naruto apart from imposters by his eyes? Could it really be that Kishi intended for NH all along? Someone please prove me wrong and bring me out of my miserey! arg.gif


Oh , you can't tell me that all your belief was shattered with that one interaction. I also thought it didn't make sense, especially the eyes part, but in no way does it confirm NaruHina. Just try to remember every NaruSaku moment in the manga and you'll see that this 'moment' doesn't even hold a candle to any of them. Besides, Naruto didn't even bother to face her when he was talking, his back was turned the whole time.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:34 PM

Wow guys, your faith in NaruSaku is so weak. A little NH moment and your faith in NS is already weakened. Are you sure you're NS fans?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:23 PM

NH got nothing on us. We're super bass. wink.gif *If that even makes any sense o:

Plus. I think the whole eyes thing was just, like, "Look at his eyes, it's the real Naruto!"
Naruto has a very distinguishing attitude, and people can see your emotions through your eyes, at times. Like, 'your eyes say it all.' Sort of like, the 'eyes are a window to your soul/emotions.'
Im not worried at all. It's just a friend thing.
You can tell when one of your friends is down through their eyes, right? Exactly. You can. Nothing romantic about it.
Hinata and Naruto are just friends. (: Come on people, don't be so down about NS.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:39 PM

Nope, it's not a question of faith going down.

It's a question of looking at all angles. Shrug. I always look at all angles.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Oct 14 2011, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow guys, your faith in NaruSaku is so weak. A little NH moment and your faith in NS is already weakened. Are you sure you're NS fans?

I love NS VERY much, and I'm rooting for them with all my heart - that's why I'm so depressed/scared... shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:49 PM

Even looking from all angles... I still see it as a 99% chance of NS happening with all the ground we have to stand on. unless Kishi does a complete 360 and uses that 1%. sleep.gif
 
 
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Oct 14 2011, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow guys, your faith in NaruSaku is so weak. A little NH moment and your faith in NS is already weakened. Are you sure you're NS fans?


Eh, this happens every single time there's any kind of scene involving Naruto saying one word to Hinata or any scene with Sakura saying one word to Sasuke. Oh heck, even in obvious narusaku scenes. Some people here are just sure even obvious narusaku scenes means narusaku isn't going to happen. Doesn't make a bit of sense to me.

Me, I look at manga and can pick up basically right away what the final canon couple is going to be. Shonen, Shoujo, Seinen or Josei. And seriously, Kishimoto has made it even more obvious than most shonen manga writers do, and shonen is the easiest to catch onto, since the romance is most often secondary, at most, to the main plot. (As it is with Naruto.) The constant emoing over nothing and even over obvious build up on narusaku does kind of get annoying in a site devoted to narusaku.

Heck, I saw less a lot less emoing amongst SpikexBuffy fans in Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans in seasons 6 and 7 than here amongst narusaku fans, and that with still some lingering mutual feelings between Angel and Buffy. (In the current comics Joss Whedon looks like he's finally working toward the AngelxFaith and SpikexBuffy resolution he laid the ground for on the BTVS and Angel TV shows. Joss has a bad tendency to dislike resolving anything though, so we shall see. You can only drag things out so long before fans start getting exasperated and leaving.)

I will say Kishimoto has reached that point storytelling wise, this may also be why the emoing is getting so bad. I can look at a story from a observers sense as well- having an instinct for when a plotline has crossed over into too long a time for readers to resolve. It's kind of starting to drift over into a bit long for the narusaku plotline to reach culmination, and move onto something closer to Minato's and Kushina's relationship once the mutual affection was realized. He's throwing out hints that their relationship is there, but doing so without the scene that outright showing that they are indeed a couple now. Naruto's mental image of Sakura in chapter 505, and the way Sakura looked at Naruto when he rescued her from Sasuke has been the most overt he's been. Looks like for a lot of the fandom they need something more shoujo manga romantic scene wise between Naruto and Sakura. Not really Kishimoto's style though.
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:11 PM

are you guys serious!!?

come on!!!

first kishi HAD to do this. you should be happy. why?

cause now naruto finally got hinata's saving him outta the way. now hinata has no blackmail on us!! >:D we are free from the burden of naruto falling for hinata cause she "saved" him.


naruto still likes sakura UNLESS stated otherwise. hinata wasnt even blushing in these chapters

they are good friends like all the rookie nine.

and did you notice? everyone is getting their little development in this war. :3

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:27 PM

When hinata apologized about everyone being suspicious about naruto being naruto he didn't even aknowlege that she said anything he just jumped in about going on the offencive in the battle, and in her own inner monologue she was depressed about not being able to protect naruto he doesn't want to be protected which seems to me that she doesn't understand naruto very well.

what are your thoughts on this?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE (elemental anubis @ Oct 14 2011, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When hinata apologized about everyone being suspicious about naruto being naruto he didn't even aknowlege that she said anything he just jumped in about going on the offencive in the battle, and in her own inner monologue she was depresed about not being able to protect naruto he doesn't want to be protected which seems to me that she doesn't understand naruto very well.


Exactly, if she knew Naruto very well, then she should know that his life duties is to always be active in any defense whatsoever, and that he always wants to be there in action and rather not be the one that does nothing because well, he's F'en Naruto. He's the hyperactive ninja. He'll take the chance of going down, as long as everyone he's knows and is associated with is safe.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Madz @ Oct 14 2011, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope, it's not a question of faith going down.

It's a question of looking at all angles. Shrug. I always look at all angles.


You're not the only one who looks at all angles. In fact I pride myself for doing it. But still I am confident, after looking at all angles, that NS is going to be the end pairing. NH has so little moments compared to NS. It would be bad writing for Kishi to go for the other pair.

QUOTE (ciardha @ Oct 14 2011, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me, I look at manga and can pick up basically right away what the final canon couple is going to be. \


I would really like to know who you think Erza and Gray from Fairy Tail would end up with. Natsu and Lucy would be the obvious pairing.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Oct 14 2011, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly, if she knew Naruto very well, then she should know that his life duties is to always be active in any defense whatsoever, and that he always wants to be there in action and rather not be the one that does nothing because well, he's F'en Naruto. He's the hyperactive ninja. He'll take the chance of going down, as long as everyone he's knows and is associated with is safe.


but ......thats not a good argument???

i mean even sakura felt bad that she couldnt protect naruto sometimes.

just cause naruto doesnt want to be saved doesnt mean its bad to want to save him.

i mean im sure sakura doesnt want to be saved by naruto, cause it makes her seem like a burden.
but he does anyway and she may feel a little bad but appreciates it alot.

but naruto being a boy it makes it seem like he would hate it. cause boys dont like being saved by girls XD

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:39 PM

^^ Hmmm, well yeah, that's true. I don't know really. I think in Sakura's case, its not really her wanting to protect Naruto but to help him out in any way shape or form. Boy, I knew I shouldn't have posted today, this was suppose to be my day of not posting. I know I would say something that is incoherent.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 04:53 PM

I just hope that Kishi will give us some NS interaction in the upcoming chapter... Then I'll be at ease...
QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Oct 14 2011, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would really like to know who you think Erza and Gray from Fairy Tail would end up with. Natsu and Lucy would be the obvious pairing.

I ship ErzaxGray NatsuxLucy.. I also don't mind NatsuxErza and LokixLucy. Seems like NARUTO is the manga with the most crazy and cruel shipping wars, lol. argh1.png

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (Roxy @ Oct 14 2011, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just hope that Kishi will give us some NS interaction in the upcoming chapter... Then I'll be at ease...

I ship ErzaxGray NatsuxLucy.. I also don't mind NatsuxErza and LokixLucy. Seems like NARUTO is the manga with the most crazy and cruel shipping wars, lol. argh1.png


Hmmm, that is a good statement, because see, in Fairy Tail, Natsu has like, I don't know, four women that he could pair with and I don't mind any of them (I prefer more of NatsuxLucy, due to somewhat of a natural interaction, the fact that they wore matching clothes once, and that Happy is always owning Lucy about not having a boyfriend, and then NatsuxErza, because of competition and all of that).

Whereas Naruto, there are two pairings (one with a strong development and chemistry and one that does not have that) where there's like this animosity that I don't like about it. I can't quite describe, but there's something that I don't like in this pairings war.

However, I'm sure in an alternate universe that the epilogue would have naruhina, in the end, and make it work, but that's not the case here.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (Roxy @ Oct 14 2011, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems like NARUTO is the manga with the most crazy and cruel shipping wars, lol. argh1.png


If you're talking about the most popular mangas recently, then yes. But I have seen shipping wars just as bad or even worse, because the situation was a little more ambiguous.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 05:14 PM

Ok, new topic:

On Tvtropes, it is stated that the NH fandom sees Konohamaru/Hanabi as a Generation Xerox of NH. I think this is wrong on so many levels. If you ask me, Konohamaru/Hanabi is closer to being a Generation Xerox of NS (perhaps even more closer to MinaKushi). As we can see in her brief appearance, I think we can easily deduce that her personality is closer to that of Neji.

So, if Konohamaru/Hanabi would work, it would work like NS do. Hanabi would probably look down on Konohamaru at first, but slowly, Konohamaru gains recognition from her. We all know Konohamaru desires recognition from everyone as Konohamaru not Konohamaru of the Sarutobi clan.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Oct 14 2011, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, new topic:

On Tvtropes, it is stated that the NH fandom sees Konohamaru/Hanabi as a Generation Xerox of NH. I think this is wrong on so many levels. If you ask me, Konohamaru/Hanabi is closer to being a Generation Xerox of NS (perhaps even more closer to MinaKushi). As we can see in her brief appearance, I think we can easily deduce that her personality is closer to that of Neji.

So, if Konohamaru/Hanabi would work, it would work like NS do. Hanabi would probably look down on Konohamaru at first, but slowly, Konohamaru gains recognition from her. We all know Konohamaru desires recognition from everyone as Konohamaru not Konohamaru of the Sarutobi clan.

But the only thing is... Moegi and Konohamaru seem pretty... "NS-y" to me, too. Remember the episode where she went all tsundere on Konohamaru for using the sexy jutsu? And Sakura was about to punch him as well, but Moegi did it before her, and Sakura took admiration of it. Naruto looked pretty scared too.

Edit: Wait, Whos Hanabi D:

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