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[CaramelMiki]

I don't think you know the nature of Naruto's kyuubi chakra. He is actually using half of the kyuubi chakra now which is the yang half. Minato sealed the other yin half using the shinigami sealing technique remember? I wonder how different Naruto's Kyubi mode would look like using the yin chakra. He'll probably look much darker but it will definitely be cool.
I've provided a link below if you're still confused.
Yin release.

Thanks I never even knew that he put Yin and Yang chakra in Naruto.

[Darth Krypt]

Thanks I never even knew that he put Yin and Yang chakra in Naruto.

Nope only yang is sealed into Naruto. Minato sealed the yin half into the shinigami. Now that I think about it, the shinigami technique is quite mysterious because no one knows how the chakra sealed into it can escape. If it can't then that means half of the kyuubi chakra will be lost forever which sucks. So I'll stick with my theory of Madara extracting Naruto's current yang chakra. Naruto dies or almost dies then he'll get the yin half of the chakra which would have a completely different appearance than the current Kyuubi mode. It would appear darker.

[Fenris]

Nope only yang is sealed into Naruto. Minato sealed the yin half into the shinigami. Now that I think about it, the shinigami technique is quite mysterious because no one knows how the chakra sealed into it can escape. If it can't then that means half of the kyuubi chakra will be lost forever which sucks. So I'll stick with my theory of Madara extracting Naruto's current yang chakra. Naruto dies or almost dies then he'll get the yin half of the chakra which would have a completely different appearance than the current Kyuubi mode. It would appear darker.

So the yin chakra is dark, and the yang is light?
.. So what if that whole yin/yang theory can be towards SS?

[Darth Krypt]

So the yin chakra is dark, and the yang is light?
.. So what if that whole yin/yang theory can be towards SS?

Yup to the first question. I don't get the second one

[merryGOflava]

So the yin chakra is dark, and the yang is light?
.. So what if that whole yin/yang theory can be towards SS?

i dont know but i thought

sakura was the brains....light or something

and naruto was the brawn....would that be dark?

sasuke and sakura arent really opposites. they are both pretty calm and junk. sasuke is cocky, sakura is hot-tempered.

[HenryFlitzroy]

The yin & yang symbolism has definitively been used in Naruto, but with Naruto and Sasuke, not Sakura and Sasuke (if that is what you meant?)

Remember Karin's comment on Naruto's chakra? http://www.mangaread...hapter-488.html

Edited by JibJabba, 12 October 2011 - 04:25 PM.

[elemental anubis]

Yang release techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form. Yin release is based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. According to the second mizukage genjutsu falls under Yin Release. It would make more sense if sakura was imbued with the Yin chakra of the kyuubi if they could get it back from the shinigami because it has been said that she has a natural affinity for genjutsu.

Edited by elemental anubis, 13 October 2011 - 04:13 PM.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

i dont know but i thought

sakura was the brains....light or something

and naruto was the brawn....would that be dark?

sasuke and sakura arent really opposites. they are both pretty calm and junk. sasuke is cocky, sakura is hot-tempered.

I think what your thinking is Sakura is Heaven and Naruto's Earth....what Iruka said....

[Darth Krypt]

Yang release techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form. Yin release is based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. According to the second mizukage genjutsu falls under Yin Release. It would make more sense if sakura was imbued with the Yin chakra of the kyuubi because it has been said that she has a natural affinity for genjutsu.

So you're suggesting Sakura becomes a jinchuuriki too? Then Naruto and Sakura would be the Kyuubi couple? Sounds farfetched even though I would like that to happen. It would certainly fit Kishi's claim that he will make Sakura more heroic.

[elemental anubis]

So you're suggesting Sakura becomes a jinchuuriki too? Then Naruto and Sakura would be the Kyuubi couple? Sounds farfetched even though I would like that to happen. It would certainly fit Kishi's claim that he will make Sakura more heroic.

The only thing I see that is farfetched is how they could get the kyuubi's yin chakra from the shinigami because killer B received the hachibi's chakra when he was older, I remember hearing that only babies could become jinchuriki because of their plyable chakra network and yet killer B became a jinchuriki when he was at least eight.

[CloudMountainJuror]

So you're suggesting Sakura becomes a jinchuuriki too? Then Naruto and Sakura would be the Kyuubi couple? Sounds farfetched even though I would like that to happen. It would certainly fit Kishi's claim that he will make Sakura more heroic.

Meh...sounds more like a terrible fanfiction to me. Just my opinion.

[Fenris]

...What are we exactly talking about? I'm terribly confused. Sakura coming a Kyuubi? How? Naruto being extracted of the Kyuubi's chakra? What?
I'm so confused. D:>

[elemental anubis]

Now I realize that my theory is incredibly crazy for what kishi wanted for sakura which is for her to be "normal" like lee amongst the super powered shinobi eg naruto and sasuke.


At the end of part one sakura said to naruto "we will get him back together" but when naruto and sasuke were talking in chapter 487 pg 4 she said "the only thing that remains for me is to believe in them" so did she just realize that she can't fight sasuke with naruto? and if that is the case why didn't she try to sign the summoning contract to summon slugs? does she not have enough chakra to summon them?

[Phantom_999]

It's highly likely being the Kyuubi host shortened her lifespan.

Fair enough

[nsfan17]

after watching this new episode, it has revived my hatred for fillers. i can't stand how they make it seem sakura has grown at all and concentrate on hinata.

Edited by nsfan17, 14 October 2011 - 12:12 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

You could be taking it the wrong way too.

The real question is, who is making this more complicated? The fanbase or Kishimoto? Do you count omission of information the same as lying? Some do, some don't. He says "On the contrary, I saw her as being an honest person." (paraphrasing) What else could it mean? You are either honest or you are not.

I think the fanbase is definitely making it more complicated by putting so much weight on an interview. I don’t see the point of it; the manga itself should be enough to stand on its own. The manga should be enough. Yet whenever someone wants to defend Sakura’s confession, all they have is that interview. The interview proves nothing at all except that Sakura still loves Sasuke but is close to Naruto, the only direct words Kishi said about feelings. Yet, even though Kishi directly said those words, I rarely see that brought up. Selective reading?

Again, THIS is the reason why we can't get a real answer. Interviews have him hinting of Hinata getting a chance with Naruto, but he never said they would get together either. She did get her chance, but just because it is not what you are expecting doesn't mean he lied. Compare what he said, to what you expected it to mean.

That was one interview where Kishi just went along with the interviewer. The interviewer wished Hinata her chance, he replied 'Me too.' It proves Kishi is vague in his replies.

Why does it need to be complicated? Why does it have to have a hidden meaning? Couldn't it just be that simple? I didn't expect Kishimoto to just end all pairing issues in an interview. If he did, then you might as well be thinking he spoiled NH from the start from the way he answered the question about Hinata "getting her chance." I am just saying that he said she was being honest, but people want to go into this deep philosophy...."Honest to Naruto or Honest to herself?"

He said he was trying to depict and honest and determined girl blah blah. It says nothing at all. It’s not evidence unless you can prove what he meant one way or another. That’s the point of why its misused. You can only speculate so it is not safe evidence. It's the same as Kishi saying 'Me too' in the NH interview. You certainly can't use that to prove NH because he could mean many many things.

Ask yourself this, would you confess your love for someone because you "honestly think it is the right thing to do?" I give Sakura more credit than that. She is not stupid, just emotionally confused as all teenagers her age would be. I accept the fact that she might not know who she loves more with her moving more towards Naruto.

If she didn’t know who she loved, she was lying. She could not, without a doubt, choose Naruto at that time. I agree she is confused, but she was not ready to confess; she was still hung up on Sasuke and could not give her heart fully to Naruto. Like I said, there is no point to crucify Sakura. It was a mistake.

And about why Sakura confessed her love, she considered it the best way to get Naruto to return with her to the village. That is why she said she went out there. Her priority was protecting him, not confessing any feelings. She knew it was wrong, she thought 'Sorry, Naruto!' and looked upset; but in comparison to him dying, it was what she thought was the priority.

Otherwise, I would take Hinata's confession variable. Maybe she wasn't being honest either. She just said that because she "honestly thought it was right." How come Hinata's confession is taken straight forward, but Sakura's isn't? Why does everything Hinata does is honest, but everything Sakura does is "dishonest?" And people wonder why Kishimoto is mad the way they treat Sakura. Even if he makes her honest, they still don't see her in good light.

Who is saying everything Hinata does is honest and everything Sakura does is dishonest? Not sure where you got this impression.

If you can’t tell a difference between Hinata’s confession and Sakura’s, then I don’t know what to tell you. They were extremely different. Hinata was introduced being in love with him, Sakura wasn’t. Most of Hinata’s character revolves around her love and admiration for Naruto, Sakura character revolves around changing from hate to ultimate respect for him. Hinata is straightforward, Sakura isn’t.

And really, its not treating Sakura badly to say the truth. It’s treating Sakura badly if you are covering up for her mistakes. She is largely a character about growth. She is, like you said, a teenager, she is supposed to be a real girl type character. What’s the point of hiding her faults? I feel there are too many Sakura fans who try to say she is perfection and therefore lack a huge understanding of who she is. Naruto certainly didn’t fall for her because she was perfect; he fell for her because she was like him: someone who could not gain acknowledgment easily.

Keep in mind. I am looking at JUST the confession. The whole Sasuke part is a separate subject. God, I hate to see if a pairing does happen. Kishimoto shows the wedding day itself and many fans will still see it as being a "dream sequence" or something different.

Sorry, the Sasuke part was entirely part of the confession. You can’t just say its some separate entity; it’s the major reason why she was made to look dishonest, and it was her own idea to bring Sasuke up in the first place. Not a good idea when you are confessing to someone, correct?

If Sakura told the 100% truth, would you believe it? Probably not

Depends on the portrayal by the author, doesn’t it? Most things Sakura says are truthful. This time it happened to be a cover up. Do you believe it more correct to blindly just believe everything a character says just because you like them? Does that make you a better fan? No, it doesn’t.

[ramenanmitsu]

I actually agree with everything Miss Soupy said.

Do you have any ideas to what Kishi meant by, "honest girl"?
To me I thought there could be two possibilities.
First possibility is, she is honest in a way she shows her bad side(being a little bit manipulative, arrogant towards Naruto).
Second possibility I thought is, that she can't lie. She lies terribly because she's not used to it. She's not used to it because she's supposed to be an honest girl.

[Miss Soupy]

^ Could be both. I took it as she was doing what she honestly thought was the right course of action, even if it involved being dishonest for part of it. But, like I said, we can't prove it one way or another, which means it isn't very good proof towards anything XD

[Super Boom]

I mentioned this on another thread, but, when it comes to the "honest but stubborn girl" part of the interview, I think more emphasis is placed on her being "honest" than her being "stubborn". To me, that line reinforced the conclusion I originally came to: she's honest, on some level, about how she feels about Naruto, but she was too stubborn to completely give up her feelings for Sasuke at that point. As far as her stubbornness goes, Sakura is very similar to Naruto, so I don't think she would be able give up on Sasuke at that point in time. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

In any case, I don't like to cite that interview as evidence, mainly because of how I took it when it was first translated. The initial reaction of a lot of N/S fans towards that interview was, "Oh it's nothing. Kishi wouldn't give away the ending like that. He's just trolling." All of a sudden, when a decent translation comes out, and we see the "honest..." statement, N/S fans start using the interview to call canon. Doesn't that sound like a double-standard? I do think it was odd that Kishi would call Sakura "honest" after she was just accused of lying to main character, but I don't think it's quite enough to call canon either. Basically, even if the mangaka is involved, I don't consider it anything to use seriously in a shipping argument until it's shown in the manga canon itself. At least, that's my opinion on the subject. I guess I generally tend to avoid interviews by mangaka, since oftentimes they're either just trolling their fans, or their words were mistranslated in the first place (*grimaces at Tite Kubo's "Grimmjow was originally supposed to die = Grimmjow is dead" comment*).

Edited by Boom...Winning, 14 October 2011 - 03:17 AM.

[naruto-z]

I mentioned this on another thread, but, when it comes to the "honest but stubborn girl" part of the interview, I think more emphasis is placed on her being "honest" than her being "stubborn". To me, that line reinforced the conclusion I originally came to: she's honest, on some level, about how she feels about Naruto, but she was too stubborn to completely give up her feelings for Sasuke at that point. As far as her stubbornness goes, Sakura is very similar to Naruto, so I don't think she would be able give up on Sasuke at that point in time. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

In any case, I don't like to cite that interview as evidence, mainly because of how I took it when it was first translated. The initial reaction of a lot of N/S fans towards that interview was, "Oh it's nothing. Kishi wouldn't give away the ending like that. He's just trolling." All of a sudden, when a decent translation comes out, and we see the "honest..." statement, N/S fans start using the interview to call canon. Doesn't that sound like a double-standard? I do think it was odd that Kishi would call Sakura "honest" after she was just accused of lying to main character, but I don't think it's quite enough to call canon either. Basically, even if the mangaka is involved, I don't consider it anything to use seriously in a shipping argument until it's shown in the manga canon itself. At least, that's my opinion on the subject. I guess I generally tend to avoid interviews by mangaka, since oftentimes they're either just trolling their fans, or their words were mistranslated in the first place (*grimaces at Tite Kubo's "Grimmjow was originally supposed to die = Grimmjow is dead" comment*).

Alright..who wants to find a honest raw of this interview and put the theories to rest by "OFFICIALLY" translating it
This interview has become a sort of sore topic for me because it's been debated, rehashed, debated more, and then debated again.
....I'm excited about the new Jump Interview!!! Woo....3 more months probably