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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It doesn't make any sense indeed .

 

Bolded :Thats the deal , how and why do you love somebody if you cant name a single reason why , not that its needed , but come on at least 1 he made me happy he complemented me every step of the way, he gave me attention he gave me flowers he saved me from my true love not killing me ,I mean dafuq not a single reason . He's cool he's handsome , and ? .. How does that make your heart at peace ? How does that make you feel safe and sound ? Remove the killing attempts the bad treatment and what do we have ? Part 1 Sakura fangirling over Sasuke and he is indifferent , which makes no effing  sense... And that makes the double standard valid. The right man was there all along  who looked  in to her soul made her dreams come true by complementing her forehead .., oh wait there is the reason she loves Sasuke .

Unfortunately , yes i agree it came out of nowhere he had to give her that power before the reunion like after 615-616 when the alliance were given the kyuubi cloak chakra , but that didn't happen and a lot of people are bashing Sakura for that moment . He choose to keep her hidden for 50-70 chapters even more and than that..

After the summit Kishi had everyone regress , she goes to the land of iron confesses to Naruto then 5 chapters after that she loves Sasuke ... Where does that make sense ? Then 540 practically assassinated her character, after the  attempted murders the crappy treatment she still loves Sasuke , why? No one knows .  She could have lended at least a single punch or slap on him ,but she chose a poison Kunai and even then she couldn't bring herself scratching him , which negated the Confession all of the feelings she holds for Naruto and there you have it Kishi has screwed him self up.

 

Yep , her ''feelings'' for Sasuke are held for Drama which has caused a lot of fights in this fandom till this very day...

 

That's what i've been telling people around the fandom but no one believes me and they call me delusional , oh well.
Yep , Naruto has to die for her to realize how important is he to her , isn't it ironic , i mean we all have to loose something to realize how we really love it , but we ignore it before that , but when we loose it we cry about it .. Humans
Mhm, that damaged her character , even that SS girl agreed to that which is unbelievable coming from a fan of that fandom .

He had to hide it to keep the suspense , but some say otherwise ..   oh well

The summit would be good if kishi didnt bought up 540, i mean he should not have done that, let her feelings alone in a suspense without that chapter, it damaged NS but still is better than the others, the parallel MK sealed the deal, and the destiny thing.

Jiraiya/Tsunade and Obito/Rin were used as tools to make the audience rooting for NS, i mean who after seeing Obito's misery would not root for Naruto and Sakura to be together?

MK and the parallels give the impression that they are destined to each other, i just believe that the summit was the best moment where Sakura could realize her feelings for Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 August 2013 - 10:15 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Hey guys is this real?

Ending of Storm 3, there will be full burst and mod support for PC.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 August 2013 - 10:19 AM.

[Superman333]

Ending of Storm 3, there will be full burst and mod support for PC.

what is that ending all about .? whats going on there .?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

what is that ending all about .? whats going on there .?

He defeats Obito, Naruto with no reason awakes from his bed, then he goes out and Sakura greets him and then everyone who's around him start praising him.

[Superman333]

He defeats Obito, Naruto with no reason awakes from his bed, then he goes out and Sakura greets him and then everyone who's around him start praising him.

i really don't understand the purpose of that ending but as for the discussion you was having earlier with 540 . I myself may not have liked the fact that she thought of Sasuke and I don't think it should have been done . But I see a good purpose in it also . At that point she could have realized her feelings already for Naruto . 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i really don't understand the purpose of that ending but as for the discussion you was having earlier with 540 . I myself may not have liked the fact that she thought of Sasuke and I don't think it should have been done . But I see a good purpose in it also . At that point she could have realized her feelings already for Naruto . 

I dont understand 540 it doesnt make sense, she says she loves Sasuke without second thoughts.

"There's already someome else I..." Dafuq is that?

 

The only thing i know of about 540 is that she doesnt see Sasuke as a great guy.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 August 2013 - 10:43 AM.

[rocci]

@darkrest & pshyco
Pairing drama, that's what happen when kishi intend to make a pairing canon at the end of manga.

[Superman333]

I dont understand 540 it doesnt make sense, she says she loves Sasuke without second thoughts.

"There's already someome else I..." Dafuq is that?

 

The only thing i know of about 540 is that she doesnt see Sasuke as a great guy.

to me its no so much that she was saying it with her heart but she said she loves him with her head ... you know what I mean .? when the guy said he must be a great guy , then thats when her heart took over and she actually looked deep in her heart and realized that she doesn't truly love him . knowing Sakura Haruno she would have cried because of that but she didn't  . I can't remember the last time Sakura cried over Sasuke aftyer the summit arc and 540 . 

[Psychox]

I dont understand 540 it doesnt make sense, she says she loves Sasuke without second thoughts.

"There's already someome else I..." Dafuq is that?

 

The only thing i know of about 540 is that she doesnt see Sasuke as a great guy.

True ,and that's why it was total assassination then for her character , regressing 3 years back . She didn't thought of Naruto at all ..

 

@darkrest & pshyco
Pairing drama, that's what happen when kishi intend to make a pairing canon at the end of manga.

 I know its about drama , but doing that with her did NO good for her or for our fandom . She literally sunk .. Its like all the things she said and did for Naruto didn't matter , at all . That's why people proclaimed NS Dead and called us the d word for shipping a dead pairing . That scene was useless , it did more damage than helped ..

Another thing , why do people threat Hinata like a godess while Sakura is that evil ,bad person who deserves to die ? Maybe because of her confession and mainly of that chapter ? Who knows ^^.

[rocci]

@pshyco
Yes I agree. Oh about Hinata, I don't hate her character, and the reason she become so popular is, she is overrate by the fan and overhyped by kishi. The other character who get the same treatment is itachi and minato.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@pshyco
Yes I agree. Oh about Hinata, I don't hate her character, and the reason she become so popular is, she is overrate by the fan and overhyped by kishi. The other character who get the same treatment is itachi and minato.

hahahahaha no.

I would say Sasuke.

 

 

to me its no so much that she was saying it with her heart but she said she loves him with her head ... you know what I mean .? when the guy said he must be a great guy , then thats when her heart took over and she actually looked deep in her heart and realized that she doesn't truly love him . knowing Sakura Haruno she would have cried because of that but she didn't  . I can't remember the last time Sakura cried over Sasuke aftyer the summit arc and 540 . 

 

I fele more like a last hope, the scene really doesnt make sense, but there's path to radiance where she views Naruto as a great guy, i mean there are hints that she changed, she didnt fangirled and neither showed romantic hints towards Sasuke unlike Ino and Karin.

Kishi is aware of that i think, he knows he messed up with Sakura to give more drama, i just hope he doesnt go back for the sake of it, because he really damaged NS her character aswell.

Sasuke questionable behavior and Naruto's personality, and the parallels who sealed the deal, it's more like he's going to finish it rather than milking it to the end.

 

Because he made Ino and Karin look pathetic with Sasuke.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 August 2013 - 11:55 AM.

[Superman333]

hahahahaha no.

I would say Sasuke.

 

 

 

I fele more like a last hope, the scene really doesnt make sense, but there's path to radiance where she views Naruto as a great guy, i mean there are hints that she changed, she didnt fangirled and neither showed romantic hints towards Sasuke unlike Ino and Karin.

Kishi is aware of that i think, he knows he messed up with Sakura to give more drama, i just hope he doesnt go back for the sake of it, because he really damaged NS her character aswell.

Sasuke questionable behavior and Naruto's personality, and the parallels who sealed the deal, it's more like he's going to finish it rather than milking it to the end.

 

Because he made Ino and Karin look pathetic with Sasuke.

Karin had a more valid reason to act like that to Sasuke . She actually had a reason to fall for Sasuke I think . Kishi is a wonderful writer and I don't think he will make Sakura look pathetic anymore from chapter 643 and up thats why 635 happened and the chapter where she looked like she didn't want him there . It took having both Naruto and Sasuke in the same place to make her realize this , thats part of the reason Kishi made Sasuke come back was so Sakura can finally sort out ehr feelings with both guys being there . 

And what chapter was the path of Radiance again , I want to read it . 

[Hanabi]

Another thing , why do people threat Hinata like a godess while Sakura is that evil ,bad person who deserves to die ? Maybe because of her confession and mainly of that chapter ? Who knows ^^.

 

I think one reason is that the second love competitor will always be more well received. *Example Nisekoi: Onodera is generally more well loved than Chitoge*

 

Another reason by nh fans is this : [Sakura <3 Sasuke, most people dislike Sasuke = so they dislike Sakura as well, Hinata <3 Naruto, most people like Naruto = so they like hinata as well.] That only applies to a minority of nh fanbase though. Naruto and Minato got so much hate because of 631 

 

But the best reason is just this: [NaruHina's popular because Hinata's popular. Hinata's popular because she's the alternate to Sakura. That's really all there is to it. -Some MF User]

 

Oh and hating sakura is a trend for teens/kids too. I've talked to some neutral fans and some have admit that they absolutely detest sakura in the past for no reason, just because of their teenage agnsty feels

Edited by Hanabi, 15 August 2013 - 12:14 PM.

[Psychox]

@pshyco
Yes I agree. Oh about Hinata, I don't hate her character, and the reason she become so popular is, she is overrate by the fan and overhyped by kishi. The other character who get the same treatment is itachi and minato.

I guess.

Btw guys here is a head scratcher ,  I've told you that i was debating with an SS fan (girl) she surrendered   because i showed her the development of NS , not that its not THAT OBVIOUS , but oh well . The thing is she got to the point of self contradicting and reversing to previous moments influencing  the story in hoping that Sasuke will be redeemed 100% , in other words she added fanfiction elements.
How is Kishi not gonna build one pairing just to drop it on another, its poor story telling , but she brought some points about Sakura's confession , chapter 540 and Naruto confessing,  i know how to respond , but lets discuss it since we are already at it , shall we ?

-''I already explained how this flashback is not credible in another of my posts, one that you responded to in fact, but let’s roll with it anyway. Say Naruto does plan to confess after Sasuke comes back. Sasuke is obviously going to come back given a happy ending, and Naruto decides to confess to Sakura. This does not mean Sakura will return Naruto’s romantic feelings. Sakura loves Sasuke, and given Sasuke fully redeems himself as he most likely will, Sakura will choose him no question.Also, Sakura is already aware of Naruto’s feelings thanks to Sai. As it turns out, learning that Naruto has serious romantic feelings for her devastates her. It was the final straw that broke Sakura in the guilt trip. After reacting so negatively to hearing it the first time, there is no chance in hell Sakura will react positively the second time, especially after Sasuke is back. ''

Apparently Sasuke's redemption has the magical powers to fix everything including installing feelings for Sakura .. So, she will react negatively because Sasuke is back and she will turn down Naruto , because she thinks she loves Sasuke ? I will say no , because she has already developed romantical emotions for Naruto , but thats what she refuses and denies it at the end yet again. Thoughts?


''Guess what happens in the Five Kage Summit arc? Sakura convinces herself to give up on Sasuke after hearing about how far he’s fallen, then proceeds to confess to Naruto… and Naruto is not buying one second of it. He tells her she’s lying to herself, and later on we see Sakura unable to kill Sasuke because, despite her knowing how far he’s fallen and consciously deciding to kill him, she loves him too much to go through with it. Not only does it show Naruto is more mature and understanding of Sakura, it shows that Sasuke turning evil does not sway Sakura’s love for the guy, unlike how Naruto originally thought.''

So allegedly she has developed romantical feelings for Naruto , but went to kill Sasuke to save him from darkness to she failed to kill him because she loves him so much .   I am implying that there is a lot of contradictory here and there is only Kishi to blame ^^.




 



 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Karin had a more valid reason to act like that to Sasuke . She actually had a reason to fall for Sasuke I think . Kishi is a wonderful writer and I don't think he will make Sakura look pathetic anymore from chapter 643 and up thats why 635 happened and the chapter where she looked like she didn't want him there . It took having both Naruto and Sasuke in the same place to make her realize this , thats part of the reason Kishi made Sasuke come back was so Sakura can finally sort out ehr feelings with both guys being there . 

And what chapter was the path of Radiance again , I want to read it . 

Yeah acting bipolar "I'm done" to "he's so cool" S2.

I'll be honest, Ino had better development than Sakura, unlike Sakura and Hinata, Ino didnt had a "Naruto" at her side or even serving as inspiration, Sakura does understand Naruto's pain but doesnt understand hatred and lose someome really important, neither why Naruto truly wants to save Sasuke, Sakura as yet to be placed with Naruto on his goal to destroy the curse of hatred.

 

Hinata is worse, she doesnt understand Naruto at all, she lose Neji and that could be a gap to surpass sakura on this matter but Neji died and it looked like he wasnt important to her life.

 

Ino, lose her father and her teacher, she grow strong by herself, she went though the revenge thing and was the first one along with Shikamaru and Chouji to understand revenge and the consequences of it he even said "if you two die we will seek revenge and may even lead to a war".

Ino was the female character with the best development but then he destroyed it by having her saying "My love for Sasuke is perfect" and did worse he implied that she thought her love for Sasuke was more important than everything.

That's assassination, he's not a wonderfull writer on my perspective, he made Ino and Karin look pathetic there.
He destroyed Ino's development on one chapter and even her father saying that "her love for Sasuke is not more important than her friends" when Sasuke returned she basically was going to jump on him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 August 2013 - 12:22 PM.

[Superman333]

I guess.

Btw guys here is a head scratcher ,  I've told you that i was debating with an SS fan (girl) she surrendered   because i showed her the development of NS , not that its not THAT OBVIOUS , but oh well . The thing is she got to the point of self contradicting and reversing to previous moments influencing  the story in hoping that Sasuke will be redeemed 100% , in other words she added fanfiction elements.
How is Kishi not gonna build one pairing just to drop it on another, its poor story telling , but she brought some points about Sakura's confession , chapter 540 and Naruto confessing,  i know how to respond , but lets discuss it since we are already at it , shall we ?

-''I already explained how this flashback is not credible in another of my posts, one that you responded to in fact, but let’s roll with it anyway. Say Naruto does plan to confess after Sasuke comes back. Sasuke is obviously going to come back given a happy ending, and Naruto decides to confess to Sakura. This does not mean Sakura will return Naruto’s romantic feelings. Sakura loves Sasuke, and given Sasuke fully redeems himself as he most likely will, Sakura will choose him no question.Also, Sakura is already aware of Naruto’s feelings thanks to Sai. As it turns out, learning that Naruto has serious romantic feelings for her devastates her. It was the final straw that broke Sakura in the guilt trip. After reacting so negatively to hearing it the first time, there is no chance in hell Sakura will react positively the second time, especially after Sasuke is back. ''

Apparently Sasuke's redemption has the magical powers to fix everything including installing feelings for Sakura .. So, she will react negatively because Sasuke is back and she will turn down Naruto , because she thinks she loves Sasuke ? I will say no , because she has already developed romantical emotions for Naruto , but thats what she refuses and denies it at the end yet again. Thoughts?


''Guess what happens in the Five Kage Summit arc? Sakura convinces herself to give up on Sasuke after hearing about how far he’s fallen, then proceeds to confess to Naruto… and Naruto is not buying one second of it. He tells her she’s lying to herself, and later on we see Sakura unable to kill Sasuke because, despite her knowing how far he’s fallen and consciously deciding to kill him, she loves him too much to go through with it. Not only does it show Naruto is more mature and understanding of Sakura, it shows that Sasuke turning evil does not sway Sakura’s love for the guy, unlike how Naruto originally thought.''

So allegedly she has developed romantical feelings for Naruto , but went to kill Sasuke to save him from darkness to she failed to kill him because she loves him so much .   I am implying that there is a lot of contradictory here and there is only Kishi to blame ^^.




 



 

yes and also the fact the SS fan you was talking to made no sense whatsoever . 

[Superman333]

Yeah acting bipolar "I'm done" to "he's so cool" S2.

I'll be honest, Ino had better development than Sakura, unlike Sakura and Hinata, Ino didnt had a "Naruto" at her side or even serving as inspiration, Sakura does understand Naruto's pain but doesnt understand hatred and lose someome really important, neither why Naruto truly wants to save Sasuke, Sakura as yet to be placed with Naruto on his goal to destroy the curse of hatred.

 

Hinata is worse, she doesnt understand Naruto at all, she lose Neji and that could be a gap to surpass sakura on this matter but Neji died and it looked like he wasnt important to her life.

 

Ino, lose her father and her teacher, she grow strong by herself, she went though the revenge thing and was the first one along with Shikamaru and Chouji to understand revenge and the consequences of it he even said "if you two die we will seek revenge and may even lead to a war".

Ino was the female character with the best development but then he destroyed it by having her saying "My love for Sasuke is perfect" and did worse he implied that she thought her love for Sasuke was more important than everything.

That's assassination, he's not a wonderfull writer on my perspective, he made Ino and Karin look pathetic there.
He destroyed Ino's development on one chapter and even her father saying that "her love for Sasuke is not more important than her friends" when Sasuke returned she basically was going to jump on him.

what made me also mad was why did Kishimoto make Hinata say what she said in chapter 573 .? thats what also made everythign get out of hand . and also I thought of something , 573 debunked 540 because she thinks of Naruto as a great guy and not so much for Sasuke . and in that same chapter it shows that Sasuke is up to no good . The last page saws that when Sasuke comes to the battlefield it will be carnage . 

Edited by Superman333, 15 August 2013 - 12:38 PM.

[Psychox]

Yeah acting bipolar "I'm done" to "he's so cool" S2.

I'll be honest, Ino had better development than Sakura, unlike Sakura and Hinata, Ino didnt had a "Naruto" at her side or even serving as inspiration, Sakura does understand Naruto's pain but doesnt understand hatred and lose someome really important, neither why Naruto truly wants to save Sasuke, Sakura as yet to be placed with Naruto on his goal to destroy the curse of hatred.

 

Hinata is worse, she doesnt understand Naruto at all, she lose Neji and that could be a gap to surpass sakura on this matter but Neji died and it looked like he wasnt important to her life.

 

Ino, lose her father and her teacher, she grow strong by herself, she went though the revenge thing and was the first one along with Shikamaru and Chouji to understand revenge and the consequences of it he even said "if you two die we will seek revenge and may even lead to a war".

Ino was the female character with the best development but then he destroyed it by having her saying "My love for Sasuke is perfect" and did worse he implied that she thought her love for Sasuke was more important than everything.

That's assassination, he's not a wonderfull writer on my perspective, he made Ino and Karin look pathetic there.
He destroyed Ino's development on one chapter and even her father saying that "her love for Sasuke is not more important than her friends" when Sasuke returned she basically was going to jump on him.

I agree Ino progressed on her own , she lost a close relative including her master which Sakura doesn't get close one bit , the Sasuke part was really useless to add , why did kishi do that , beats me ..

True , Hinata forgot about Neji the second she started to hold Naruto's big ''hand'' , though she surpasses Sakura in this aspect .

Hatred is a word that Sakura  doesn't know, hm i wonder if Naruto ''dies'' by the hand of Sasuke , will she begin to hate him ? Because the closest person in her life  besides Kakashi and Sasuke , its Naruto , regardless BFF or something more complicated .

[Psychox]

what made me also mad was why did Kishimoto make Hinata say what she said in chapter 573 .? thats what also made everythign get out of hand . and also I thought of something , 573 debunked 540 because she thinks of Naruto as a great guy and not so much for Sasuke . 

He is just throwing random references, how is one or two sentences gonna make an eclipse on a whole manga of development ?
Some nh fans still believe that 633 Hinata is gonna be Naruto's wife by interpreting her words in romantic aspect , how is she gonna force something even it was romantic , she wants to support him not be his wife ..... When it comes to NH and SS every moment and sentences are romantic , but if its NS , its a joke , red herring and such ,tell me please how are those not double standards? 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I agree Ino progressed on her own , she lost a close relative including her master which Sakura doesn't get close one bit , the Sasuke part was really useless to add , why did kishi do that , beats me ..

True , Hinata forgot about Neji the second she started to hold Naruto's big ''hand'' , though she surpasses Sakura in this aspect .

Hatred is a word that Sakura  doesn't know, hm i wonder if Naruto ''dies'' by the hand of Sasuke , will she begin to hate him ? Because the closest person in her life  besides Kakashi and Sasuke , its Naruto , regardless BFF or something more complicated .

She doesnt because Neji's death became comparable to when Chyo-baa died and Sakura was there it served as the same purpose not development, Neji's death didnt give development to Hinata.