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#5781 PhenixElite

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:38 PM

/\ Hahaha! You guys with that NF. Why do you care so much about their comments. If you really need to read what they wirte then do so but dont take it so serious all the time. We know how the story went till now, so just laugh about it if they turn the story how they want to have it. Its just their opinion not kishis. laugh.gif

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#5782 Atheck

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:44 PM

You guys are definitely right but whenever I read a post of theirs centered around personal opinion only or generalizations commonly associated with the characters it just gets on my nerves. Don't any of you ever feel like that? You know where you just want to do everything in your power to refute their arguments because their logic is just so one-sided that it's painful to even glance at.



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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Dec 4 2012, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys are definitely right but whenever I read a post of theirs centered around personal opinion only or generalizations commonly associated with the characters it just gets on my nerves. Don't any of you ever feel like that? You know where you just want to do everything in your power to refute their arguments because their logic is just so one-sided that it's painful to even glance at.

No actually not i always have to laugh laugh.gif

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:20 PM

When hinata made her cofession they said that kishi changed and is building naruhina, after kiba's coment they are saying the same stuff again.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

Just a quick question, how many of you believe that the last chapter had a NS development. Naruto sailed heal him (Kakashi first). But the way he said was like Sakura tried to heal him first.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Dec 4 2012, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just a quick question, how many of you believe that the last chapter had a NS development. Naruto sailed heal him (Kakashi first). But the way he said was like Sakura tried to heal him first.

There's no any moment for anyone in the last chapter. If Sakura is going after Naruto to heal next, then she may do it next chapter, but lets hold that judgment. Hm, I wonder. Could this be a way to stall Obito reaction of seeing another Rin for this chapter since last chapter was about arrival? Maybe, but I won't get my hopes up. Keep it low expectation. Anyway, no moments, but funny how he only talks to Sakura. Reminds me that he always sense Sakura, even in chakra sense. But oh well, we will get the clear picture of Kishi's intention very soon. Last chance for all.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 4 2012, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When hinata made her cofession they said that kishi changed and is building naruhina, after kiba's coment they are saying the same stuff again.


Yep it's the never ending story for a certain fandom that always get their hopes up and in the end Kishi always slap their faces with his reality pairing of choice. I'm just relax and calm because there was no NH or NS moment in that specific panel. That was only Hinata being her usual self always worried about Naruto and he didn't even reply to her or look at her, his attention was on Sakura probably going to ask her to heal Kakashi and Gai first before she heals him that's it.

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#5789 Don-kun

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:24 AM

A random NH fan was asking a another NH fan DA who posted a RTN art is she saw the NH moment on chapter 611. (give link to chapter 611)

OP Replay.

Thanks...but when I mean hints of them, I mean hints directly between Naruto and Hinata. Btw, do you know when will chapter 612 comes out? Again OP is a NH fan.

http://browse.devian...rusaku#/d5n2ec2

If you read true her replies you can see that she is completely different from a regular NH fan, I wish that at lease 80% of them were like her, life on forums would of being so nice.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

@ Canadian_DJ
Quote: “wait, are you trying to say that hinata has the potential to be your favourite character if it weren't for all the "naruto-kuns"?”

No no no no and hell no. Actually every single chapter and episode without Hinata is a happy day for me. What really bugs me about Hinata is that she is incredibly selfish, she doesn’t care about Naruto or anyone the only thing she cares about is Getting Naruto. I don’t want to see some great revelation about her that she is the reincarnation of the Rikudou Sennin mother or something ridiculous like that. And I also don’t want to see Hinata fighting against Madara or Obito or the Juubi and even worse holding her ground that will be just stupid. The proper development that she needs is if she finally opens her eyes to the truth. Which is that she is selfish and she’s obsessed with Naruto. The problem with this is the only way I can see this happen is if someone close to her (and by someone close to her I don’t mean Naruto, Naruto is a complete stranger to her) like Neji, Kiba, Shino or her father dies in front of her eyes and that person dies (or is greatly injured) because instead of focusing on the enemy she was too busy looking at Naruto. The problem with this is that I don’t want someone who actually did something in this storyline die or nearly die just so Hinata can finally open her eyes and realize that her entire life she was an idiot. That instead of being obsessed with Naruto she should’ve decided to help the people around her, to became strong so she can protect her friends, her younger sister, the members of her clan, the villagers etc. I mean she could’ve decided to change the way of the Hyuga because she is supposed to lead her clan when her father dies. But instead she decided to be obsessed with Naruto.
This is why I like Naruto and Sakura as characters because they understood that it’s not what they want that matters. It’s what the world wants and what the world needs that matters.
They understood that they must put away their own selfish desires so other people can be happy or safe.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 5 2012, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A random NH fan was asking a another NH fan DA who posted a RTN art is she saw the NH moment on chapter 611. (give link to chapter 611)

OP Replay.

Thanks...but when I mean hints of them, I mean hints directly between Naruto and Hinata. Btw, do you know when will chapter 612 comes out? Again OP is a NH fan.

http://browse.devian...rusaku#/d5n2ec2

If you read true her replies you can see that she is completely different from a regular NH fan, I wish that at lease 80% of them were like her, life on forums would of being so nice.

I now NS also have some tards, but the rational NS fans overshadow the NStards by far.




LOL.
There are those types everywhere.
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#5792 Cupcake-chan

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:12 PM

Does it matter at all that in the most recent chapter 612 (I think) Hinata is positioned in front of everyone and closer to Naruto than Sakura? It was the same in 611 in the ending of the chapter. Now I may be putting too much thought to it, but it can't be a mere coincidence that Sakura is further away from Naruto than Hinata. (Not that I ship Hinata or anything)

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Cupcake-chan @ Dec 5 2012, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does it matter at all that in the most recent chapter 612 (I think) Hinata is positioned in front of everyone and closer to Naruto than Sakura? It was the same in 611 in the ending of the chapter. Now I may be putting too much thought to it, but it can't be a mere coincidence that Sakura is further away from Naruto than Hinata. (Not that I ship Hinata or anything)



I'm really starting to believe that you're a troll.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE (kidNinja @ Dec 5 2012, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm really starting to believe that you're a troll.

Hey, it's a valid point. And no I'm not a troll, I am simply pointing out something that should be taken notice. I'm a neutral party (though inclined to NS).

#5795 PhenixElite

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (Cupcake-chan @ Dec 5 2012, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, it's a valid point. And no I'm not a troll, I am simply pointing out something that should be taken notice. I'm a neutral party (though inclined to NS).

If that really was a serious question then my answer is:
I think kishi gives a fuqq where he places his characters.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (Cupcake-chan @ Dec 5 2012, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does it matter at all that in the most recent chapter 612 (I think) Hinata is positioned in front of everyone and closer to Naruto than Sakura? It was the same in 611 in the ending of the chapter. Now I may be putting too much thought to it, but it can't be a mere coincidence that Sakura is further away from Naruto than Hinata. (Not that I ship Hinata or anything)


I don't thinks, the positioning of Sakura makes since, in the last chapter you see that Hinata and Ino land closer to Naruto then Kakashi, Guy and B. While as Sakura got there Naruto told her to heal Kakashi, so it would make since that Sakura was closer to Kakashi the Naruto at the end of 611 because she had just finished, and as for 612 it picks up exactly at the point where 611 left off so Kishi had to keep everyone's placement the same, especially after the incident with the Hokage Monument back in 599.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 5 2012, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that really was a serious question then my answer is:
I think kishi gives a fuqq where he places his characters.


Positioning matters more than you might know. It matters in advertising, photographs and art (you think it's by chance that Ancient Egyptian art placed the poor people normally at the bottom of murals with smaller proportions than the wealthy?). And debate all you want, but manga is a form of art.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 5 2012, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't thinks, the positioning of Sakura makes since, in the last chapter you see that Hinata and Ino land closer to Naruto then Kakashi, Guy and B. While as Sakura got there Naruto told her to heal Kakashi, so it would make since that Sakura was closer to Kakashi the Naruto at the end of 611 because she had just finished, and as for 612 it picks up exactly at the point where 611 left off so Kishi had to keep everyone's placement the same, especially after the incident with the Hokage Monument back in 599.

Thank you for answering my question seriously.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (Cupcake-chan @ Dec 5 2012, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Positioning matters more than you might know. It matters in advertising, photographs and art (you think it's by chance that Ancient Egyptian art placed the poor people normally at the bottom of murals with smaller proportions than the wealthy?). And debate all you want, but manga is a form of art.


Thank you for answering my question seriously.

I dissagree. Positioning doenst matter at all. Do you really think Kishi is placing his characters like: The one whos standing nearest to naruto is the one who will end up together? If thats the case the Ino has also a great chance i think. Not to mention Kiba. That picture just shows the K11, standing around random.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:32 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 5 2012, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that really was a serious question then my answer is:
I think kishi gives a fuqq where he places his characters.

I agree with You phenix, the positioning didnt matter on that specifically chapter, e and about why he keep the same positioning is because he didnt draw again the first page he just copied like this
I've seen this same face of naruto 15 times, two times on the first page of shounen jump, one shot manga, naruto's fight against kyuubi and so on.
he do not draw every page sometimes he just copy this is like he did with first page of 612, why draw it again if i can just copy?

Manga is a art too but as a mangaka sometimes copying latest works speed up the process.

Last chapter was about kiba's comment now is about positioning srsly wtf.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 December 2012 - 05:54 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:53 PM

Wouldn't that apply Kiba is another main character or fitting as Sai's role? It's a joke of course. Position doesn't matter. You got to remember the position. It would look rather odd if Sakura decided to move up more to get the best of it. Rather selfish to do. Imagine Hinata is all the way in the back, then next chapter she moves up because well you know. It will be stupid. I find it funny that they all split up. So much for that. I like the transition to Naruto vs. Obito. I guess they have to settle the score once and for all. I do think Madara may live to see another day, but we'll see.




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