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#561 Miss Soupy

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (True @ Apr 6 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Holy crap Soupy that was a spectacular post! You've put a lot of thought into Ulquiorra's character and put him in a different perspective for me. Very well constructed post. I loved reading all of it!


Thanks True XD;; If you want an even more in depth analysis of Ulquiorra, i suggest you read this guys thread: http://forums.bleach...ead.php?t=68967

He points out of ton of things that are hard to catch. Most of the earlier stuff is in his first post there, the rest is scattered throughout that thread.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Apr 6 2009, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks True XD;; If you want an even more in depth analysis of Ulquiorra, i suggest you read this guys thread: http://forums.bleach...ead.php?t=68967

He points out of ton of things that are hard to catch. Most of the earlier stuff is in his first post there, the rest is scattered throughout that thread.

I'm at a loss for words. That is easily one of the best fanmade essays' I've read for any fandom! This makes me really want to reread Bleach and look at the deeper meanings. Thanks for the link Soupy! smile.gif

Also spoilers are out and...I'm loving the chapter if they are accurate. But I just had to post this....
I love you Kubo, oh God do I love you ! (no kitten)

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (True @ Apr 8 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love you Kubo, oh God do I love you ! (no h***)

agreed, Kubo's been good to us.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:13 PM

Thanks for that well-thought out post, Miss Soupy! I'll post a few thoughts on some of the things you posted when I have more time. Right now, I'm just "whaaaat theee heeeell?" regarding this latest chapter and need all the brain cells I can spare.

AND I have seen that poster True! Matsumoto! Damn, that hint of garter just... sfdjskfjapisfh!

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:55 AM

New chapter is up!

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Front cover is fanservice for all male fans out there!

Ulq.. ;___; You were badass...

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:57 AM

rest in pieces ulqi

j/k

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:58 AM

;_; So in the end, he seemed to get a small understanding of what being human was like. A bittersweet end to a bittersweet fight.

And damn, that cover page is nice. Neliel's breasts look like they might be bigger than Matsumoto's! No wonder she turns into a centaur. She needs the extra legs to carry all that weight!

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 06:37 AM

Cover = HAWWWWTTT!!!! nosebleed8rx.gif

*ahem*

Anyways, ash to ash, dust to dust. Ulquiorra proves that statement.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 06:42 AM

Dang...you know, I had a feeling that Ulquiorra was at the end of his rope, but...I didn't expect him to go so...peacefully. Huh...it kind of reminds me of how Hollows are purified by the Shinigami's zanpakutou. The title 'The Ash' fits perfectly though, just like Derock also noticed:

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust...

Yeah, corny, but Kubo really knows how to make a good transition between action and tragedy (or victory? Not sure, I kind of found myself liking Ulquiorra a bit after his second bout with Ichigo, so tragedy seems to fit better in my opinion). Kubo even threw in some UlquiorraxOrihime for the fans that ship it. XD

chapter 353, page 20 http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/353/20/

chapter 353, page 21 http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/353/21/

Makes me want to support the pairing. tongue.gif

Well, in the end, Ichigo has managed to once again save his friends, and I think Ulquiorra is going to be leaving a lasting impression on those three teens, especially Ichigo. I think he learned a bit more about his own strength. Though, I guess the one who truly got the biggest impression out of the group was Ulquiorra himself. He actually seemed to be a bit disappointed that he was dying/disappearing (not sure what happened, but I assume he's dead now) and leaving these humans who warped his view on humans so much.

R.I.P. Ulquiorra. You'll definitely be leaving a mark on Ichigo, which hopefully will help him grow even stronger by his own means.

Gimme a break, 'kay?

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 07:12 PM

Good chapter, nice ending for Ulquiorra.
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Posted 10 April 2009 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Kurosaki Ichigo @ Apr 10 2009, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good chapter, nice ending for Ulquiorra.

This is gonna be my PS3's new wallpaper.


haha. I guess you can call that sexy harem no jutsu. smile.gif

I was very impressed with this chapter. Ulq's development has been very unique and Kubo did a great job of making him unique from the other Espada. You can almost sense more of a human side to him compared to the rest. Except maybe Nell, but she's one of the good guys. smile.gif

I woner if given the opportunity if Orhime would have been able to heal him. Since she kind of negates/reverses time or something with her ability. I guess now we'll never know. The thing that bothered me was the whole "cut my arm and leg off too!" deal. It's not like he could grow them back after the fight (or could he?!!!). lol. I'd be more like, I'll fight you with an arm tied behind my back and on one leg, but I want to keep them. tongue.gif

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 07:39 PM

Even if Ichigo couldn't recover his limbs, Inoue could bring them back. She's done it for several other characters already. Hell, when those kids that were torturing her got killed by Grimmjow, she restored part of one of their HEADS. I think restoring brain would be a lot more complicated then restoring arms and legs, so I don't think she'd have a problem with it.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:30 PM

The chapter was very beautiful, but to me seems shockingly abrupt. Ichigo's reaction to becoming a monster seemed all too calm and we still don't know much about how he became that way or how he can suddenly regenerate. I hope Kubo elaborates on this some more. Ishida just kinda hung out with his sword wound XD I found it kinda comical, why must he be tortured so? XD

Ulquiorra has never looked so sad, as he did in this chapter; heart-breakingly so. I'm confused as to why he bothered sonido-ing to pull out Ichigo's sword when he was apparently so weak. But, besides all of that, he only had eyes for Orihime, which, as an ulquihime fan, I loved the very obvious glances/sad looks. (NO ONE can deny these, THANK YOU KUBO!)

And finally, right when they seemed to understand each other and reached for contact, he crumbled into ash. Ulquiorra has risen from the ashes once before (the chapter named 'If You Rise from the Ashes'). I still must hold some hope that he can again. As poetic as his 'death' was, there was much left unknown about him. Next week perhaps we will get a flashback, or words from Yammy. It's hard to believe Kubo would let Ulquiorra go without a backstory, as important a character as he has been. I've followed Ulquiorra for, how many years now?...Ever since he was introduced I think. I can't just let him go quite yet, I hope he will return to the story at some point. *sniffles*

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 06:31 AM

Chapter was very nice. Though this fight wasn't that great since it went from one curbstomp to another curbstomp, it was an interesting observation of hollow/humans and how Ichigo and Ulquiorra both experienced the opposing species sentiments.

The ending was well done. I don't think anyone can deny the Ulquihime sub tones. It's quite a tragic pair as if humans and hollows will never be able to get together. Just as Kubo said everything divides us. The reaching out for the hands and then turning into ash. Wow what a shoujish moment. Kubo's done it before with the 5 lifetimes confession and again he pulls it off with this chapter. I'm more inclined to believe now that Ulquiorra's last act in breaking Ichigo's horn was to protect Ishida/Inoue from getting hurt by his cero. I mean he knew he was already dead from the inside, so with his last resort he decided to save the two of em. A last act of redemption? I'm sure he'd deny it, but I think that was what was being implemented. The symbolism of ash and Ash Wedsneday (I know it was on Febuary this year, but WSJ comes out on Wednesday, and I just feel that Kubo purposely used Christian sub tones during this fight--even with Ichigo's hollow mask) could possibly correlate to repentance on his part.

The reaching out for one another hands..I would says its a two part attraction and repulsion; both of the characters personalities and dynamic are completely different from each others that it seemed to mystify their interaction, and there's always an element of fascination in mystery that fans are to wonder "what if they really could end up together?" and Kubo leaves it up for them to decide with this ending. That curiosity is what drove this pair to be one of the most popular in Bleach.

Of course Ichigo will be the one to break this (since he's the main character) and become the perfect hybrid of hollow/shinigami/human. Also, I hope we get more clarification on his transformation as well as his regeneration. If he becomes Hichigo when he dies..then well hes more powerful then his regular form.

And poor Ishida...the guy's had his hand cut off and a sword stuck through him and yanked out. Looks like he'll have to patch himself up. Ah well just a compliment to the chivalrous white knight.

QUOTE (Chivalrysae @ Apr 10 2009, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing that bothered me was the whole "cut my arm and leg off too!" deal. It's not like he could grow them back after the fight (or could he?!!!). lol. I'd be more like, I'll fight you with an arm tied behind my back and on one leg, but I want to keep them. tongue.gif

That's always been Ichigo's attitude. He likes to have a fair even fight without handicaps. When his hollow took over during the Byakuya fight, he apologized for the interference. His final fight with Grimmjow he had Orihime heal his arm. It's just his lust for battle that's similar to Kenpachi who forcefully puts handicaps on himself, while Ichigo refuses for his opponents to give him handicaps.

I'm hoping we get a flashback of Ulquiorra next chapter as well as a broader definition on whats up with Ichigo's fluctuating power level.

Ulquiorra's character portrayed that of complete despair. Someone shuddered in darkness lacking a heart. When Orihime came into his life, she was that ray of light that seemed to shine upon him. Even if he refused to acknowledge it, there was an impact and a lasting impression upon him. Their dynamic showcases the connection that hollows and humans have with one another. Can they ever truly understand one another? Coexist with one another? Break this black and white image of good and evil? That was the portrayal of their relationship and something that will have to be concluded in Bleach.


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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:25 PM

Awesome photo, True!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:30 AM

Oh damn...


The Espada numbers are from 0 to 9!

DAAAAAAAAAYUM, GO YAMMY!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 06:30 AM



Only one person can beat him now...and that's Captain Mom with her kendo.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 06:40 AM

QUOTE (True @ Apr 17 2009, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Only one person can beat him now...and that's Captain Mom with her kendo.


lol
And I didn't believe the spoiler at first but I guess I was wrong...This makes things interesting... sleep.gif

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 06:43 AM

Somewhere Kubo is sitting and sipping his tea while watching the Bleach fandom go "WTF?!?!"

Though we won't know about his release since we're switching back to fake Karakura town. This is a time when I want the next weeks chapter already! XD

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:03 AM

Number 0?! Does that make him stronger than Stark, then?! Hopefully Ichigo and Inoue will be able to get it together in time to help the others fights, because I don't think Yammy is going to go down easy.

Looks like captain Pre-Teen isn't faring so well in Fake Town. I like the fact that Halibel went to her release so quickly. Too many characters in this series hold their full strength back for too long.




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