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[TouKen4Life3g]

While I understand your point in Fairy Tail, a bit uncalled for don't you think? Plus I'm on your side, despite keep thinking your avatar keep telling me you're a troll when you're not. Anyway, I should read your point of view.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 16 May 2015 - 12:31 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

While I understand your point in Fairy Tail, a bit uncalled for don't you think? Plus I'm on your side, despite keep thinking your avatar keep telling me you're a troll when you're not. Anyway, I should read your point of view.

Well, I will gladly read what you think about NnT 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I will gladly read what you think about NnT 

I like your point of view (despite burying other series along the way with ironically Naruto clone being pushed by you though again, I haven't read it so I'm only saying it based on first impression). I don't have time but I'll just say DB meets RPG in terms of concept.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I like your point of view (despite burying other series along the way with ironically Naruto clone being pushed by you though again, I haven't read it so I'm only saying it based on first impression). I don't have time but I'll just say DB meets RPG in terms of concept.

Eh, don't get me wrong, I can see, flaws of this story 

Naruto clone in BC? lol, as long as author resolve all what he borrowed from Naruto in good way -  I have no problmes with it. I read previous work of that author too - and it was ok, Japan sometimes burn good series and keep bad stories on surface. 

What is DB? 

Would gladly read more detailed version of your opinion 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 16 May 2015 - 01:06 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Eh, don't get me wrong, I can see, flaws of this story 
Naruto clone in BC? lol, as long as author resolve all what he borrowed from Naruto in good way -  I have no problmes with it. I read previous work of that author too - and it was ok, Japan sometimes burn good series and keep bad stories on surface. 
What is DB? 
Would gladly read more detailed version of your opinion 

Dragon Ball.

I'm watching the anime now and maybe it's the bose headphones to make the sounds sound really "epic", or maybe the soundtrack is so far pretty good and suited for the concept, or I don't know, but I like it so far.

[trang95]

Yeah I've read it, and I agree with everything you've said.  

 

And there's nothing wrong with having 2 or 3 stories going on at the same time- it all depends on how you execute it. And this was just executed horribly. I mean we got a random flashback chapter in the middle of 3 fights. There was so much going on that nothing held my attention. And now I'm expected to just be content with King being okay after fighting a demon-which took 3 sins to kill on the other side btw. And of course the other fight was predictable. There's no way any of them could die.  

 

The romance is officially dead in this manga. My personal fav will never happen and my most wanted is being dragged to hell. Lol. But in all seriousness, Diane and King can never catch a break. I feel like all of this is happening just to drag out their story for a longer time. All of the couples are just...terribad.  

 

And lastly, I don't think we'll ever learn about Merlin. I think, along with EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS STORY, it will be kitten-pulled. Someway, somehow. Because this is a kitten story. Not worth a kitten dime. Kitten.

Ah eh, I'll disagree with you on that one. We will learn about her motives and what happened exactly on that day, I'm sure about that. That little flashback was not thrown in just for fun. Nakaba has just decided not to address it immediately for the simple purpose suspense. I suspect he won't reveal it until all members are assembled (yes, I also mean baka Ban who god knows how long will travel the earth to resurrect his fairy lover).

I personally am a little bit irritated how how Meliodas and Merlin interact with each other. I know there's some distrust b/w the two of them due to whatever happened in the past, but at the same time they look too comfortable with each other. But then again, I've lately been wondering how close the sins are to each other...

 

 

What makes you like Fairy Tail when right now?

 

Why I like NnT? Well, let's see?

- More than one main hero? Yes. And his character traits is what I didn't saw in a long time, who had that "perv" part of character in him? Naruto? When it was shown last time in daily situation? Good luck trying to remember those 3XX chapters.

- Story not goes around only around him/her? Yes. Story shifts as gears in car, and it's good for me, One Piece is suffering right now, because one arc is dragged already 2+ years, and half of team was thrown away, there is HUGE amount of characters and Oda doesn't keep up with all of them all that well.

- Intrestnig world? Yes, Medieval Britain - YES, at least something not totally japanese, it's intresting to see how japanese author looks on west mythology and old fairy heroes.

- Many asked questions that needs answers? Yes. There is at least 7 flashbacks for each sin, story of Demons, barbarians, and 4 clans.

 

Now to what Pix is ranting about? 

 

In my opinion only part of King was executed not well, but Nakaba already showed that he put's every bit on information in manga, not in 10th movie that goes out of story. Again, I don't give a damn about King, he's story ended up, and now his motives are only feelings for Diana and his word to be one of NnT. How King went all fully alive and healthy? Maybe because his battle already was finished before Galan even went to Mel and Group, and previous chapter was based some time after it all, with sacred tree around - King's health could pretty well be restored in hours. Him carring about Dian but not others? Well, pretty much in character. Already many times he left his friends for his purposes, was it word he gave Helbram, was it because he was King of Fairys or because Ban went to whatever place.

 

Fight with Gowther was meaningless? No it wasn't we got to know who he is, what is his problem, and exactly in the end of that fight it was foreshadowed that Diane lost her present memory of King and SEVEN deadly sins, how long it was? 10+ chapters ago, and it wasn't dropped.

 

Nakaba trying to create intresting story, without boring parts (what almost happend after Holy Knights conflict, but he changed course of story pretty quickly). His art is pretty detailed, in tier of Oda's league, and he even releases additional "Extra" chapters that have value to main plot [when Mashima of Fairy tail, do 2 chapters per week to just rush stupid and mostly meaningles arc to it's obvious end with dropping half of characters lines], so I wonder how this story is bad? Surely, it has flaws but they don't even cover 1/10 of greatness of this story. When girls ranted about Meliodas attitude to Eli - I get that, it was unpleasent to them, but I never saw it that serious, because than - we could consider Sakura hitting Naruto - as abuse, Nami hitting Luffy and team - as abuse, Kaour hitting Kenshin - as asbuse  

How they don't happy about Eli being demsel in distress for 95% of story, but after release of chapter where authors says that Eliz power is key to winning the war and she herself says that she want to fight, Merlin aproves her determination to do train (at the same time as Arthur) - not even word about that, it's    ...  

To every - his own, I can say for sure - that there is nothing intresting for me in FT, those few characters that is have value to me - rarely get action and if they get - it's only for Natsu to shine even more. And many here - pretty cool with recent chapters of it, and I wonder why? Because it's utter kitten, and had no value at all, and only reason because it went to "old FT style" doesn't mean it's good - because last 100+ chapters of it - is horrible, and I read it without hope, to just end it, and look how many people have same opinion as mine.

BnHA  - well, now it's not all that intresting, characters are well developed (except Bakugou, but I feel that his time will come very soon, against this new villian) but story itself doesn't promise anything intresting other than interrupting another tournament (I'm pretty sure that author won't go for this, throwing few villians into center of Heroues show is... suicide).

Black Clover - there is something new and fresh about this story 

_____________________________

And yeah, due to spoilers of next chapter - Diane's gaiden incoming. 

 

Let's leave Fairy Tail out of here, shall we? Before I know it, you'll bring up Tokyo Ghoul, your other source of resentment...

I definitely love the individual characters of this manga. Each of the sins is unique, buuuuut you liking Meliodas is truly subjective. True, that might be "refreshing" for some readers that he has a perv trait, but that's a characteristic I personally never was looking in any character, neither guy nor girl- at least not blatantly executed in this way. What annoys Pix and me about Meliodas' constant harassment is the SEXUAL abuse he's doing on a 16-yr old girl. That's something we can't ignore, especially b/c Elizabeth doesn't like it (or maybe she does, which makes it even worse).

Elizabeth... *sigh* Look, I'm not a fan of her, but I also don't hate her. She's very nice, and was incredibly brave to set out on a journey to save her kingdom. You want me to address her resolve to fight? Fine, that was cute of her, but as always, I can't take it seriously. Kamisama has bestowed some goddess powers on her Some think it's impressive, but I already know that's just some powerups. But hey, maybe I will like as time goes on. It's not necessarily the type of character she is that I despise b/c I've liked girls like her... I don't even look out for girls who necessarily have to fight, it's more the resolve they have and how serious they are about it (and quite frankly, Elizabeth always acts like a child in my eyes unlike Yona from Akatsuki no Yona for instance who's the same age as Elizabeth).

Setting: Well, what can I say, you think Japanese settings are boring, but I personally don't care... As for BnHA, I think the modern Japanese setting fits. It's a "hero" themed manga, so modernization is only asked. Horikoshi could have made it more interesting of course by tweaking things here and there and maybe using a city like New York as a model, but thre's no need to appeal to the western fanbase when you already have the hero theme. If I had to pick my favorite setting though right now, it'd be Magi. Wonderfully crafted in my eyes.

[trang95]

Dragon Ball.

I'm watching the anime now and maybe it's the bose headphones to make the sounds sound really "epic", or maybe the soundtrack is so far pretty good and suited for the concept, or I don't know, but I like it so far.

That's b/c that's the same composer for Attack on Titan.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's b/c that's the same composer for Attack on Titan.

That explains a lot.

So far, it's good. I guess Japan did good call to make this a high rating show. The over the top action is suited for anime because of explosions and such. So yeah, I'm enjoying this one.

[trang95]

That explains a lot.

So far, it's good. I guess Japan did good call to make this a high rating show. The over the top action is suited for anime because of explosions and such. So yeah, I'm enjoying this one.

The anime boosted the manga sales

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Ah eh, I'll disagree with you on that one. We will learn about her motives and what happened exactly on that day, I'm sure about that. That little flashback was not thrown in just for fun. Nakaba has just decided not to address it immediately for the simple purpose suspense. I suspect he won't reveal it until all members are assembled (yes, I also mean baka Ban who god knows how long will travel the earth to resurrect his fairy lover).

I personally am a little bit irritated how how Meliodas and Merlin interact with each other. I know there's some distrust b/w the two of them due to whatever happened in the past, but at the same time they look too comfortable with each other. But then again, I've lately been wondering how close the sins are to each other...

 

Let's leave Fairy Tail out of here, shall we? Before I know it, you'll bring up Tokyo Ghoul, your other source of resentment...

I definitely love the individual characters of this manga. Each of the sins is unique, buuuuut you liking Meliodas is truly subjective. True, that might be "refreshing" for some readers that he has a perv trait, but that's a characteristic I personally never was looking in any character, neither guy nor girl- at least not blatantly executed in this way. What annoys Pix and me about Meliodas' constant harassment is the SEXUAL abuse he's doing on a 16-yr old girl. That's something we can't ignore, especially b/c Elizabeth doesn't like it (or maybe she does, which makes it even worse).

Elizabeth... *sigh* Look, I'm not a fan of her, but I also don't hate her. She's very nice, and was incredibly brave to set out on a journey to save her kingdom. You want me to address her resolve to fight? Fine, that was cute of her, but as always, I can't take it seriously. Kamisama has bestowed some goddess powers on her Some think it's impressive, but I already know that's just some powerups. But hey, maybe I will like as time goes on. It's not necessarily the type of character she is that I despise b/c I've liked girls like her... I don't even look out for girls who necessarily have to fight, it's more the resolve they have and how serious they are about it (and quite frankly, Elizabeth always acts like a child in my eyes unlike Yona from Akatsuki no Yona for instance who's the same age as Elizabeth).

Setting: Well, what can I say, you think Japanese settings are boring, but I personally don't care... As for BnHA, I think the modern Japanese setting fits. It's a "hero" themed manga, so modernization is only asked. Horikoshi could have made it more interesting of course by tweaking things here and there and maybe using a city like New York as a model, but thre's no need to appeal to the western fanbase when you already have the hero theme. If I had to pick my favorite setting though right now, it'd be Magi. Wonderfully crafted in my eyes.

Eh, as much as I don't like hype around TG - I can't judge TG itself, because people I know have similar tastes to mine - liked it. I've read AoT after it's hype and wasn't impressed at all, so I have idea what I don't like, and I'm dislike it not for only solely purpose of "hate".

 

If it's purpose in not comedy but TRULLY sexual harassment of 16yo, why didn't you alermed Sakura hitting Naruto, is physical abuse of 16yo girl to 16yo boy?   Because they pretty much was similary used. I get that it's unpleasent for you and females in general, but what I think, you must understand that both situations are for comedy purpose, and what is funny or not - blame Japan for their humor 

About Eli... eh?! I was thinking that you like girls that is willing to stand for themself <_< Personaly I don't remember such character with Eliz type of character that is willing to fight and succed in it, that Hinata always was boobie character , so for me it will be intresting to see Eli as fighter. 

 

About Meliodas, well, I enjoy heroes that is out of "normal japanese guyzzzzzzzzzzzzz" rule, and shonens nowadays are kind of boring because, there is no real characters with purpose other than "save", perhaps it's shonen genre to blame   . At least back then, heroes was intresting, Kenshin, Kenshiro, JoJo's, Ryo and etc, they wasn't "normal japanese guys" to start with, and stories with them was still intresting, now shonen heroes is something as "dolls", they don't have negative treats at all, so Mel doing even one step from this state of MC, was suprise for me 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 16 May 2015 - 02:18 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The anime boosted the manga sales

Good point but at least they give it all or in a high price and seems like it worked. I just didn't think it worked that well.

[Pix]

Ah eh, I'll disagree with you on that one. We will learn about her motives and what happened exactly on that day, I'm sure about that. That little flashback was not thrown in just for fun. Nakaba has just decided not to address it immediately for the simple purpose suspense. I suspect he won't reveal it until all members are assembled (yes, I also mean baka Ban who god knows how long will travel the earth to resurrect his fairy lover).

I personally am a little bit irritated how how Meliodas and Merlin interact with each other. I know there's some distrust b/w the two of them due to whatever happened in the past, but at the same time they look too comfortable with each other. But then again, I've lately been wondering how close the sins are to each other...

 

Let's leave Fairy Tail out of here, shall we? Before I know it, you'll bring up Tokyo Ghoul, your other source of resentment...

I definitely love the individual characters of this manga. Each of the sins is unique, buuuuut you liking Meliodas is truly subjective. True, that might be "refreshing" for some readers that he has a perv trait, but that's a characteristic I personally never was looking in any character, neither guy nor girl- at least not blatantly executed in this way. What annoys Pix and me about Meliodas' constant harassment is the SEXUAL abuse he's doing on a 16-yr old girl. That's something we can't ignore, especially b/c Elizabeth doesn't like it (or maybe she does, which makes it even worse).

Elizabeth... *sigh* Look, I'm not a fan of her, but I also don't hate her. She's very nice, and was incredibly brave to set out on a journey to save her kingdom. You want me to address her resolve to fight? Fine, that was cute of her, but as always, I can't take it seriously. Kamisama has bestowed some goddess powers on her Some think it's impressive, but I already know that's just some powerups. But hey, maybe I will like as time goes on. It's not necessarily the type of character she is that I despise b/c I've liked girls like her... I don't even look out for girls who necessarily have to fight, it's more the resolve they have and how serious they are about it (and quite frankly, Elizabeth always acts like a child in my eyes unlike Yona from Akatsuki no Yona for instance who's the same age as Elizabeth).

Setting: Well, what can I say, you think Japanese settings are boring, but I personally don't care... As for BnHA, I think the modern Japanese setting fits. It's a "hero" themed manga, so modernization is only asked. Horikoshi could have made it more interesting of course by tweaking things here and there and maybe using a city like New York as a model, but thre's no need to appeal to the western fanbase when you already have the hero theme. If I had to pick my favorite setting though right now, it'd be Magi. Wonderfully crafted in my eyes.

Bhna is destined to be big in the west. Look at All Might for crying out loud. Perfect example of a western hero with Japanese influence. Plus there may be an arc where they'll travel to the west for all we know. That would be pretty cool.  

 

And maybe that's what's making me believe that Merlin's story will never be touched upon. Merlin and Melodias are just so comfortable together, even when he knows of her betrayal. It does bother me. 

 

 

What makes you like Fairy Tail when right now?

 

Why I like NnT? Well, let's see?

- More than one main hero? Yes. And his character traits is what I didn't saw in a long time, who had that "perv" part of character in him? Naruto? When it was shown last time in daily situation? Good luck trying to remember those 3XX chapters.

- Story not goes around only around him/her? Yes. Story shifts as gears in car, and it's good for me, One Piece is suffering right now, because one arc is dragged already 2+ years, and half of team was thrown away, there is HUGE amount of characters and Oda doesn't keep up with all of them all that well.

- Intrestnig world? Yes, Medieval Britain - YES, at least something not totally japanese, it's intresting to see how japanese author looks on west mythology and old fairy heroes.

- Many asked questions that needs answers? Yes. There is at least 7 flashbacks for each sin, story of Demons, barbarians, and 4 clans.

 

Now to what Pix is ranting about? 

 

In my opinion only part of King was executed not well, but Nakaba already showed that he put's every bit on information in manga, not in 10th movie that goes out of story. Again, I don't give a damn about King, he's story ended up, and now his motives are only feelings for Diana and his word to be one of NnT. How King went all fully alive and healthy? Maybe because his battle already was finished before Galan even went to Mel and Group, and previous chapter was based some time after it all, with sacred tree around - King's health could pretty well be restored in hours. Him carring about Dian but not others? Well, pretty much in character. Already many times he left his friends for his purposes, was it word he gave Helbram, was it because he was King of Fairys or because Ban went to whatever place.

 

Fight with Gowther was meaningless? No it wasn't we got to know who he is, what is his problem, and exactly in the end of that fight it was foreshadowed that Diane lost her present memory of King and SEVEN deadly sins, how long it was? 10+ chapters ago, and it wasn't dropped.

 

Nakaba trying to create intresting story, without boring parts (what almost happend after Holy Knights conflict, but he changed course of story pretty quickly). His art is pretty detailed, in tier of Oda's league, and he even releases additional "Extra" chapters that have value to main plot [when Mashima of Fairy tail, do 2 chapters per week to just rush stupid and mostly meaningles arc to it's obvious end with dropping half of characters lines], so I wonder how this story is bad? Surely, it has flaws but they don't even cover 1/10 of greatness of this story. When girls ranted about Meliodas attitude to Eli - I get that, it was unpleasent to them, but I never saw it that serious, because than - we could consider Sakura hitting Naruto - as abuse, Nami hitting Luffy and team - as abuse, Kaour hitting Kenshin - as asbuse  

How they don't happy about Eli being demsel in distress for 95% of story, but after release of chapter where authors says that Eliz power is key to winning the war and she herself says that she want to fight, Merlin aproves her determination to do train (at the same time as Arthur) - not even word about that, it's    ...  

To every - his own, I can say for sure - that there is nothing intresting for me in FT, those few characters that is have value to me - rarely get action and if they get - it's only for Natsu to shine even more. And many here - pretty cool with recent chapters of it, and I wonder why? Because it's utter kitten, and had no value at all, and only reason because it went to "old FT style" doesn't mean it's good - because last 100+ chapters of it - is horrible, and I read it without hope, to just end it, and look how many people have same opinion as mine.

BnHA  - well, now it's not all that intresting, characters are well developed (except Bakugou, but I feel that his time will come very soon, against this new villian) but story itself doesn't promise anything intresting other than interrupting another tournament (I'm pretty sure that author won't go for this, throwing few villians into center of Heroues show is... suicide).

Black Clover - there is something new and fresh about this story 

_____________________________

And yeah, due to spoilers of next chapter - Diane's gaiden incoming. 

 

To each of it's own- you're right. 

 

But no, man I completely disagree. So we're just gonna excuse the fact that Nakaba didn't write about King's aftermath?? That's the same thing Naruto fans do with Naruto- they keep making excuses for the creator, and that's why Kishi still gets away with pulling crap on us. King was fighting a top tier demon, with no help. He was literally drawn as almost losing his life (along with his nails) at the end of this fight. So the readers are supposed to just assume he's okay and make headcanons on how he healed? That should be the writer's job. And even if it is explained how he overcame that situation (which I hope so), it was poorly executed. To see King almost losing his life to now seeing him ONLY care about Diane is just...poorly executed. 

 

We could have known who he is in one simple flashback chapter (like Nakaba tried to do with Hendrickson), there was no need for the waste of chapters. The importance of that fight has been extremely overshadowed, especially since we just entered 4 fights straight without warning. And, in the course of 10 chapters, Gowther is good all over again. It wasn't even elaborated on enough. There's already a solvent to his problem, that was just added in the latest chapter. Like I've said, wasted chapters.  

 

Okay, molesting people =/= hitting people. I think that's a super false comparison. Melodias has never hit Elizabeth- he's molesting Elizabeth. In no way do those two examples justify this. Sakura hitting Naruto is bad, I've never said it was good. Matter of fact, that's why a lot of people hated her. But it was never done out of pure anger or spite- and was "meant" (emphasis on "meant") to be shown as a friendly punch for pure comedy. Molestation is never comedy. Whether the victim be male or female. That's literal assault.  

 

The art in NnT is unparalleled, I love it.

 

And I don't read FT or OP because I lost interest in both. Not saying they're bad. Just don't read it. Tokyo Ghoul does a WAY better job at pacing than NnT. And better female characters. 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Bhna is destined to be big in the west. Look at All Might for crying out loud. Perfect example of a western hero with Japanese influence. Plus there may be an arc where they'll travel to the west for all we know. That would be pretty cool.  

 

And maybe that's what's making me believe that Merlin's story will never be touched upon. Merlin and Melodias are just so comfortable together, even when he knows of her betrayal. It does bother me. 

 

To each of it's own- you're right. 

 

But no, man I completely disagree. So we're just gonna excuse the fact that Nakaba didn't write about King's aftermath?? That's the same thing Naruto fans do with Naruto- they keep making excuses for the creator, and that's why Kishi still gets away with pulling crap on us. King was fighting a top tier demon, with no help. He was literally drawn as almost losing his life (along with his nails) at the end of this fight. So the readers are supposed to just assume he's okay and make headcanons on how he healed? That should be the writer's job. And even if it is explained how he overcame that situation (which I hope so), it was poorly executed. To see King almost losing his life to now seeing him ONLY care about Diane is just...poorly executed. 

 

We could have known who he is in one simple flashback chapter (like Nakaba tried to do with Hendrickson), there was no need for the waste of chapters. The importance of that fight has been extremely overshadowed, especially since we just entered 4 fights straight without warning. And, in the course of 10 chapters, Gowther is good all over again. It wasn't even elaborated on enough. There's already a solvent to his problem, that was just added in the latest chapter. Like I've said, wasted chapters.  

 

Okay, molesting people =/= hitting people. I think that's a super false comparison. Melodias has never hit Elizabeth- he's molesting Elizabeth. In no way do those two examples justify this. Sakura hitting Naruto is bad, I've never said it was good. Matter of fact, that's why a lot of people hated her. But it was never done out of pure anger or spite- and was "meant" (emphasis on "meant") to be shown as a friendly punch for pure comedy. Molestation is never comedy. Whether the victim be male or female. That's literal assault.  

 

The art in NnT is unparalleled, I love it.

 

And I don't read FT or OP because I lost interest in both. Not saying they're bad. Just don't read it. Tokyo Ghoul does a WAY better job at pacing than NnT. And better female characters. 

And I said that King's part was not well handled, so... ?   Every manga has it flaws, that I said too.

But how he acts - is TOTALLY in character, why don't you like it?  I'm not to judge was it purely executed or not, hope to see in flashback what happend in fairy forest.

 

How we must get known of one of sin's story in one chapter?    Every Sin got their gaiden, and I'm questioning, did you really think that it would be enough for someone extraordinary as Gowther is one 18-20 pages chatpers? That's a joke 

Plus he's wasn't pictured as pure evil, he was just shown  from different side. And fight with Diane, comes out for what's happening now - meeting with King, and now Diana goes to her own village of giants.

 

I'm comparing both of those - used for comedy purpose, Sakura pretty much hit Naruto because of anger at beggining of Shippuuden  And it's not like Mel tries to rape Elizabeth every time .___. or seriosly molesting her even against her will   Both of those - are comedy scenes, that's my point, like it or not - it's yours choise. 

[Pix]

And I said that King's part was not well handled, so... ?   Every manga has it flaws, that I said too.

But how he acts - is TOTALLY in character, why don't you like it?  I'm not to judge was it purely executed or not, hope to see in flashback what happend in fairy forest.

 

How we must get known of one of sin's story in one chapter?    Every Sin got their gaiden, and I'm questioning, did you really think that it would be enough for someone extraordinary as Gowther is one 18-20 pages chatpers? That's a joke 

Plus he's wasn't pictured as pure evil, he was just shown  from different side. And fight with Diane, comes out for what's happening now - meeting with King, and now Diana goes to her own village of giants.

 

I'm comparing both of those - used for comedy purpose, Sakura pretty much hit Naruto because of anger at beggining of Shippuuden  And it's not like Mel tries to rape Elizabeth every time .___. or seriosly molesting her even against her will   Both of those - are comedy scenes, that's my point, like it or not - it's yours choise. 

Their supposed to be comedy but it's a sensitive subject. And the same can be said for Sakura's hitting of Naruto. But molestation is a super serious act, regardless of comedy. And Sakura's anger was supposed to be justified with "comedy" but many fans disagree. That's what I was saying. 

 

But with Gowther- what do mean extraordinary? He's the pawn of Merlin- he doesn't have much a backstory. Him being elaborated on as a doll definitely could have lasted only 20 chapters and that useless fight would have never happened. Gowther isn't like the other sins, who have been living for 100s of years. He's Merlin's tool. That's why he doesn't really need a "gaiden". 

 

And no, that's not King's character. Or maybe it is, I just don't want to believe it. But him only caring for Diane and not checking back with Ban to see if he's okay, or for him to go directly to Diane and not ask if Melodias or the others is okay is just...I don't know what to say really. How did he even know Diane was hurt? And recovering from his injuries is not just his "character" either. He suffered big time after fighting Helbram. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think this is the only thread with mixed views.

[Pix]

I think this is the only thread with mixed views.

Lol nah cause Bleach and Bhna are also pretty mixed.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Lol nah cause Bleach and Bhna are also pretty mixed.

Bleach seems majority on negative. You're right on BnHA.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

But with Gowther- what do mean extraordinary? He's the pawn of Merlin- he doesn't have much a backstory. Him being elaborated on as a doll definitely could have lasted only 20 chapters and that useless fight would have never happened. Gowther isn't like the other sins, who have been living for 100s of years. He's Merlin's tool. That's why he doesn't really need a "gaiden". 

 

And no, that's not King's character. Or maybe it is, I just don't want to believe it. But him only caring for Diane and not checking back with Ban to see if he's okay, or for him to go directly to Diane and not ask if Melodias or the others is okay is just...I don't know what to say really. How did he even know Diane was hurt? And recovering from his injuries is not just his "character" either. He suffered big time after fighting Helbram. 

There is still unknown who exactly created Gowther, for what purpose and etc etc.

 

I already stated that between King's fight and this scene - around 3-6 hours, maybe even more, so he pretty much checked at leasto on Ban and Elains body. To Diane  - he went for confession pretty much. And how he healed - sacred trea was close to him and I can bet it was that move with what he healed Diane, but let's see in further chapters.

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There is still unknown who exactly created Gowther, for what purpose and etc etc.

 

I already stated that between King's fight and this scene - around 3-6 hours, maybe even more, so he pretty much checked at leasto on Ban and Elains body. To Diane  - he went for confession pretty much. And how he healed - sacred trea was close to him and I can bet it was that move with what he healed Diane, but let's see in further chapters.

But see that's my issue: you're inferring things when it's not clear that it happened. We don't know how many hours it's been; King's face did not show signs of a "confession"- he was worried for Diane's safety; where are Ban and Jericho for that matter? We still don't know what happened to them, or even that other fairy attacking Ban. It was done poorly and now we're left with headcanons to fill in the missing pieces. Hopefully Nakaba will resolve at least half of this in next week's chapter. If not, I'm done reading. 

 

And we know that Gowther was created by a wizard in order to find a heart, that still could have been explained enough in 1 chapter. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

So allow me to ask here:

What's better to you now: NnT or BnHA. Why?