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#561 megi

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:04 PM

yeah... MS is the right one... I'd like to say that she was speaking about herself... I think that Sakura didn't know that Naruto's heart has entered in the everyone minds but it's just my personal thought...

 

I'd like to say this too. I think she is speaking about herself, and not "we".

 

It is hard to say because there are no pronouns, but I'm sure she is speaking about herself and not "we". But people have the freedom to think what they choose! 

Edit: I forgot to say that Mangastream's translation is better.

 

 

 

''Summanakata'' i know , its very powerful, and that is if Sasuke survives . IF he wanted to do it he would've done it when he arrived to the battlefield , he did no such thing, yes, he may if they both survive after their fight , but that's arguable . That word comes rarely to never from his mouth .

 

I think this is taken out of the context too much. He values her comradeship.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:08 PM

I'd like to say this too. I think she is speaking about herself, and not "we".
 
It is hard to say because there are no pronouns, but I'm sure she is speaking about herself and not "we". But people have the freedom to think what they choose!


Even if she somehow said we, her expression speaks volumes and its hers alone. There's no way an anti can turn or downplay that moment effectively. Lol

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:09 PM

Even if she somehow said we, her expression speaks volumes and its hers alone. There's no way an anti can turn or downplay that moment effectively. Lol

Lol. I'm sure we'll have a surprise about this one.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:15 PM

Even if she somehow said we, her expression speaks volumes and its hers alone. There's no way an anti can turn or downplay that moment effectively. Lol

 

They'll try, no doubt. Very time I think "There's nothing they can say that will surprise me now," they prove me wrong. Sometimes it's amusing but others it's frustrating. This was such a personal moment for Sakura in respect to Naruto, but people just gloss over it because of Hinata's 'Naruto-kun' panel.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:21 PM

They'll try, no doubt. Very time I think "There's nothing they can say that will surprise me now," they prove me wrong. Sometimes it's amusing but others it's frustrating. This was such a personal moment for Sakura in respect to Naruto, but people just gloss over it because of Hinata's 'Naruto-kun' panel.


Lol I know some will definitely try but it would most definitely be a huge fail. That's why I said effectively. Lol no matter what anyone says, she had a very telling expression. Hell, if mimics the expression she made during Hinata's speech. <_< wonder what that means... B)

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:25 PM

I think its gonna be interesting since we haven't seen Naruto kill anybody . He was gonna kill Haku and he almost ended Kakuzu but failed . So maybe he''ll go for Obito? Or Sasuke's gonna get it? hm...

That's where I believe the conflicting issue comes in. Kishi forshadowed that Naruto and Sasuke will have problem dealing with the situation. Sasuke is about no mercy while Naruto is about coming to an agreement. I can see when they get close to defeating Obito, Naruto may not end him as Sasuke wants to go for the kill. I know that Naruto is really pissed at Obito, but again, he knows better that killing him won't do any justice.

Imagine if he did kill Nagato. No one knew if Nagato would come back and fight them again, but instead, he chose redemption for a reward to Naruto. Who to say Obito won't do the same? They have covered many grounds with Obito but not once about love directly. Hokage has been tackled, hope has been tackled, and friends has been tackled, but why is there no love, which happened to be the main factor for Obito. Otherwise, why do we see all of those flashbacks, hints, and reminders. Minato didn't get the chance to understand why, only to understand if he should be blamed. Only Kakashi knows what's going on, but he's absent, which may make sense on why Naruto and Minato don't understand Obito completely.

So now we're in the last step. To me, I think the breaking point for Naruto and Sasuke will be the decision on killing Obito or sparing him. Obito has pushed Naruto the furthest to make it seem like he will kill him no question asked, yet ironically he's fighting the one who is his dark side. It's as if to say, "I refuse to believe this would be me" but perhaps that's going deep. Anyway, I'll bet Sasuke would be upset at his decision, only to have feeling foolish for a reward, mainly either ending the tree or that revival jutsu. It's like a battle of "I got my revenge by killing" vs "I got my revenge by sparing". Naruto is so going to get a huge reward.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:44 PM

Lol I know some will definitely try but it would most definitely be a huge fail. That's why I said effectively. Lol no matter what anyone says, she had a very telling expression. Hell, if mimics the expression she made during Hinata's speech. <_< wonder what that means... B)

 

Yeah, there's really no logical way to explain away her reaction. I heard so many convoluted theories involving NaruHina and SasuSaku, I can hardly be phased anymore. -_-



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:46 PM

I can't help but wonder, why Sakura's face looked more shocked than the others when the "entering his heart" thing happened...

If it keeps in tone with the suggestion I made about how they were all feeling Naruto's loneliness and pain subjected at the hands of the village then it would fall right in line with the RtN plotline. Except she learns it all in 5 seconds as opposed to a movie.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:47 PM

That's where I believe the conflicting issue comes in. Kishi forshadowed that Naruto and Sasuke will have problem dealing with the situation. Sasuke is about no mercy while Naruto is about coming to an agreement. I can see when they get close to defeating Obito, Naruto may not end him as Sasuke wants to go for the kill. I know that Naruto is really pissed at Obito, but again, he knows better that killing him won't do any justice.

Imagine if he did kill Nagato. No one knew if Nagato would come back and fight them again, but instead, he chose redemption for a reward to Naruto. Who to say Obito won't do the same? They have covered many grounds with Obito but not once about love directly. Hokage has been tackled, hope has been tackled, and friends has been tackled, but why is there no love, which happened to be the main factor for Obito. Otherwise, why do we see all of those flashbacks, hints, and reminders. Minato didn't get the chance to understand why, only to understand if he should be blamed. Only Kakashi knows what's going on, but he's absent, which may make sense on why Naruto and Minato don't understand Obito completely.

So now we're in the last step. To me, I think the breaking point for Naruto and Sasuke will be the decision on killing Obito or sparing him. Obito has pushed Naruto the furthest to make it seem like he will kill him no question asked, yet ironically he's fighting the one who is his dark side. It's as if to say, "I refuse to believe this would be me" but perhaps that's going deep. Anyway, I'll bet Sasuke would be upset at his decision, only to have feeling foolish for a reward, mainly either ending the tree or that revival jutsu. It's like a battle of "I got my revenge by killing" vs "I got my revenge by sparing". Naruto is so going to get a huge reward.

I don't think this time spearing him would be an answer . What's the point doing it twice now ? Nagato was misguided and lead on a leash by Obito , albeit he had his reasons to act like that . This time however is different Obito is blowing out his ''candles'' erasing everybody who has acknowledged Naruto, so i think that hurts him even more when Jiraiya died . Which brings the questions if Sasuke wants to kill Obito will it be for power ? What will Naruto do ? What would TNJ do any good this time ? IF Sasuke aims to kill and Naruto tries to stop him what then? Or Naruto wants to kill Obito and Sasuke stops him thus wanting the Juubi for himself?


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:14 PM

I think its gonna be interesting since we haven't seen Naruto kill anybody . He was gonna kill Haku and he almost ended Kakuzu but failed . So maybe he''ll go for Obito? Or Sasuke's gonna get it? hm...

 

On the one hand, I think it would be really interesting if Naruto is forced to kill Obito, but I'd honestly be surprised if he were forced to do so this late in the game.  Kishimoto has tried very hard to give Naruto extreme powers, while also making it so that Naruto never directly killed anyone.  He's almost killed someone (Kakuzu), but even then Kakashi technically dealt the killing blow.  Naruto is supposed to be special, he's supposed to do something to change the Shinobi world, something to end the cycle of hatred and violence that's bred into the ninja, so how would his killing Obito be different?  Having said that, we already saw him "hug" dark Naruto, so does this mean that this time he'll be forced to kill this dark Naruto?  We also know that he'll guide Sasuke to his own redemption (Naruto won't fail), so will he succeed in guiding Sasuke to his redemption after failing to guide Obito to his own?  It really depends

 

 

If she really was in love with Naruto she would not be getting a development to move on from Sasuke to Naruto.

She acknowledged Naruto as a lover and as someome better than Sasuke but does this mean that she's in love with him, the answer is no, but she can on the future? Yes, because she is getting development to do so, she confronted Sasuke on the summit and after that she is receiving development to fall in love with Naruto.

The notion that if Sakura does indeed love Naruto on some level (even unbeknownst to herself), she would not need development presumes that Sakura cannot love multiple people, and presumes that Sakura is aware of all of her feelings, that she's given actual thought to her feelings for Naruto, when in fact Kishimoto seems to have avoided having the character actually ask herself and think about "how do I (Sakura) feel about Naruto."  During the Kage arc, we saw her think about old Sasuke, but we didn't see her actually think about Naruto.  Every time someone seems to hint at Sakura's potential romantic feelings for Naruto (Yamato and Sai), they're interupted, the conversation isn't finished.  Sakura looks confused, almost scared, and then moves on; refuses to think about it.

 

We also have to remember that there are different types of love, and romantic/sexual love isn't always the most important.  Sakura loves Naruto, there's no doubt in my mind about that and there's not doubt in my mind that when push comes to shove Sakura will choose Naruto over Sasuke --she already has.  It is for Naruto that she got out of her funk (after she and Sasuke tried to kill each other) and stood up against Sasuke, the majority of her actions (ill thought out or not) were done in order to protect Naruto, relieve his burdens, and act in such a way that if there was success in "operation kill Sasuke," he could still have his friends, he'd only have to hate Sakura (hence why she knocked the boys out).  My only question is are those feelings or could those feelings become romantic/sexual in nature.

 

We also have to remember that even romantic/sexual love can be very different, it can be more or less sexual/lustful, it can be based in reality, it can be based on a fantasy.  Sakura is really loyal, and we've seen that often genin teams become a sort of new family (though Team 8 seems to be an exception), so there's no doubt in my mind that Sakura loves Sasuke but just like we have to explore what the nature of Sakura's feelings for Naruto are, we need to explore what the nature of her feelings for Sasuke are.  What does she really know or understand about Sasuke?  What are her feelings for Sasuke based on?  We saw in her confession to Sasuke that even though she began to understand that loneliness drove him (and Naruto), that she really didn't understand what loneliness is.  We know that to some degree she began liking him because he was some sort of stepping stool, a way for her to show that she has surpassed the females in her class.  We know that she had a fantasy about a guy complimenting her forehead, and that that did happen but she believes that it was Sasuke when it was in fact Naruto.  To me that indicates that her while her love, her loyalty, and her desire to see Sasuke redeemed is very much real, the romantic nature of her love, the intensity of the romantic nature of her love is based on a fantasy and is largely based on some sort of internal build up.  Sakura's feelings are very much like the feelings that many people, especially teenagers, can have when they like someone from a far, when they idolize that person, when they attribute certain qualities to that person that might not be real --might never have been real.  Then let's compare that to her feelings for (and relationship with) Naruto.  What's the difference?  At this point in the story Kishimoto has worked hard to illustrate that Sakura knows Naruto (and even understands him) more than anyone else, in some ways even more than Sasuke.  The last barrier to this was in Sakura's ignorance regarding Naruto's romantic feelings, but once she found out about those, things changed.  She's now able to speak for him, explain him/his feelings to the rest of the world, she's able to relate to his feelings/realize that she's entered his heart even without his needing to think of a regret/an event that relates to her directly.  Everything she feels for Naruto, the feelings she's aware of as well as the feelings she's incapable of admitting to herself at this point, are based on who he actually is and who she actually is (while the majority of her dislike of Naruto was based on who she incorrectly thought he was, and an image of herself that she was trying to convey).

 

But does that mean that she absolutely loves Naruto in a romantic/sexual manner already?  No, but I do think Kishimoto seems to be striving for the possibility that she does but cannot realize her feelings because she's still hung up on Sasuke, because she has a low self confidence when it comes to romance, and primarily because if she realizes her feelings for Naruto and moves on from Sasuke too soon, the romantic plot would be finished.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:13 PM

I don't think this time spearing him would be an answer . What's the point doing it twice now ? Nagato was misguided and lead on a leash by Obito , albeit he had his reasons to act like that . This time however is different Obito is blowing out his ''candles'' erasing everybody who has acknowledged Naruto, so i think that hurts him even more when Jiraiya died . Which brings the questions if Sasuke wants to kill Obito will it be for power ? What will Naruto do ? What would TNJ do any good this time ? IF Sasuke aims to kill and Naruto tries to stop him what then? Or Naruto wants to kill Obito and Sasuke stops him thus wanting the Juubi for himself?

That's not the point. Understand that Naruto still wants to kill him but sparing is the answer because what good would it do to kill him. For Obito, this is Naruto's greatest challenge yet for coming around. What makes it a point to do it twice you asked? Say if the tree is impossible which Madara sure made it seem like. What good is killing Obito? Will it stop? Will it bring anything but "Hooray..."? There's a reason why Obito is getting many flashbacks and such, because as we despise him, we wonder if there's a good ending for him. He's Nagato but on hard difficulty level. He's too once a human. Not only that but Naruto sensed that Obito is in dark pain.

As you may not be aware but Naruto is supposed to be like "Jesus" (no religion talk please). If you heard many stories, no matter how bad it is, you always seem to forgive. Why else you see many stories that don't kill the villain, rather the villain takes its own life, good or bad. Let's not forget that Kishi is a fan of those animated film, which most likely we will see a somewhat fantasy ending. Other characters go on different paths but not Naruto. That said it's best to keep Sasuke the one with kill is the solution as Naruto is "Must be other way" solution.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:59 PM

 

On the one hand, I think it would be really interesting if Naruto is forced to kill Obito, but I'd honestly be surprised if he were forced to do so this late in the game.  Kishimoto has tried very hard to give Naruto extreme powers, while also making it so that Naruto never directly killed anyone.  He's almost killed someone (Kakuzu), but even then Kakashi technically dealt the killing blow.  Naruto is supposed to be special, he's supposed to do something to change the Shinobi world, something to end the cycle of hatred and violence that's bred into the ninja, so how would his killing Obito be different?  Having said that, we already saw him "hug" dark Naruto, so does this mean that this time he'll be forced to kill this dark Naruto?  We also know that he'll guide Sasuke to his own redemption (Naruto won't fail), so will he succeed in guiding Sasuke to his redemption after failing to guide Obito to his own?  It really depends

 

 

The notion that if Sakura does indeed love Naruto on some level (even unbeknownst to herself), she would not need development presumes that Sakura cannot love multiple people, and presumes that Sakura is aware of all of her feelings, that she's given actual thought to her feelings for Naruto, when in fact Kishimoto seems to have avoided having the character actually ask herself and think about "how do I (Sakura) feel about Naruto."  During the Kage arc, we saw her think about old Sasuke, but we didn't see her actually think about Naruto.  Every time someone seems to hint at Sakura's potential romantic feelings for Naruto (Yamato and Sai), they're interupted, the conversation isn't finished.  Sakura looks confused, almost scared, and then moves on; refuses to think about it.

 

We also have to remember that there are different types of love, and romantic/sexual love isn't always the most important.  Sakura loves Naruto, there's no doubt in my mind about that and there's not doubt in my mind that when push comes to shove Sakura will choose Naruto over Sasuke --she already has.  It is for Naruto that she got out of her funk (after she and Sasuke tried to kill each other) and stood up against Sasuke, the majority of her actions (ill thought out or not) were done in order to protect Naruto, relieve his burdens, and act in such a way that if there was success in "operation kill Sasuke," he could still have his friends, he'd only have to hate Sakura (hence why she knocked the boys out).  My only question is are those feelings or could those feelings become romantic/sexual in nature.

 

We also have to remember that even romantic/sexual love can be very different, it can be more or less sexual/lustful, it can be based in reality, it can be based on a fantasy.  Sakura is really loyal, and we've seen that often genin teams become a sort of new family (though Team 8 seems to be an exception), so there's no doubt in my mind that Sakura loves Sasuke but just like we have to explore what the nature of Sakura's feelings for Naruto are, we need to explore what the nature of her feelings for Sasuke are.  What does she really know or understand about Sasuke?  What are her feelings for Sasuke based on?  We saw in her confession to Sasuke that even though she began to understand that loneliness drove him (and Naruto), that she really didn't understand what loneliness is.  We know that to some degree she began liking him because he was some sort of stepping stool, a way for her to show that she has surpassed the females in her class.  We know that she had a fantasy about a guy complimenting her forehead, and that that did happen but she believes that it was Sasuke when it was in fact Naruto.  To me that indicates that her while her love, her loyalty, and her desire to see Sasuke redeemed is very much real, the romantic nature of her love, the intensity of the romantic nature of her love is based on a fantasy and is largely based on some sort of internal build up.  Sakura's feelings are very much like the feelings that many people, especially teenagers, can have when they like someone from a far, when they idolize that person, when they attribute certain qualities to that person that might not be real --might never have been real.  Then let's compare that to her feelings for (and relationship with) Naruto.  What's the difference?  At this point in the story Kishimoto has worked hard to illustrate that Sakura knows Naruto (and even understands him) more than anyone else, in some ways even more than Sasuke.  The last barrier to this was in Sakura's ignorance regarding Naruto's romantic feelings, but once she found out about those, things changed.  She's now able to speak for him, explain him/his feelings to the rest of the world, she's able to relate to his feelings/realize that she's entered his heart even without his needing to think of a regret/an event that relates to her directly.  Everything she feels for Naruto, the feelings she's aware of as well as the feelings she's incapable of admitting to herself at this point, are based on who he actually is and who she actually is (while the majority of her dislike of Naruto was based on who she incorrectly thought he was, and an image of herself that she was trying to convey).

 

But does that mean that she absolutely loves Naruto in a romantic/sexual manner already?  No, but I do think Kishimoto seems to be striving for the possibility that she does but cannot realize her feelings because she's still hung up on Sasuke, because she has a low self confidence when it comes to romance, and primarily because if she realizes her feelings for Naruto and moves on from Sasuke too soon, the romantic plot would be finished.

That's the solely reason why i say that the confession is fake(which is not bad) and people still cant accept it for whatever reason.
The nature of ther confession was about romantic feelings which she hasnt developed yet.

The bolded just represent my point perfectly i'll give you a 10/10 for this post.

 

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:00 PM

Sakura's confession is so complex that it won't be fair to label it as fake vs. real.

 

Some parts were true and some were not. I believe she did not blush out of emberassment because she has after all tried to be intimate with Naruto before in public. Also notice the contrasts in her facial expressions when saying she loves Naruto, and when she said she doesn't love Sasuke. When she says she loves Naruto, she has a small smile and is blushing. Then she goes over to talking about Sasuke, her expression is more nervous here; She starts wearing her typical "lying smile" and even starts sweating.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:11 PM

Sakura's confession is so complex that it won't be fair to label it as fake vs. real.

 

Some parts were true and some were not. I believe she did not blush out of emberassment because she has after all tried to be intimate with Naruto before in public. Also notice the contrasts in her facial expressions when saying she loves Naruto, and when she said she doesn't love Sasuke. When she says she loves Naruto, she has a small smile and is blushing. Then she goes over to talking about Sasuke, her expression is more nervous here; She starts wearing her typical "lying smile" and even starts sweating.

I believe the fact it's complex is that the reason that people could not distinguish "Love in general" with "romantic love/sexual" like morgaine4 suggested.
Kishi lt it very clear to scenes like the bridge and the hug and many others, that she cannot love Naruto on this way unless she resolve her issue with Sasuke.
I belive she indeed loves Naruto but not on a romantic level yet, she's little by little developing it, first Kishi showed she felt attracted to Naruto's spirit on part 1, His physical attributes on part 2(begining), we have a hiatus due to Naruto's progression as a character (annoying kid(He raged often on his opponents) to someome more mature), awesome ninja(Pain's arc), Sai's speech and the idea of being his girlfriend(confession), Great guy thing(540), Acknowledgement(recent).


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:40 PM

That's the solely reason why i say that the confession is fake(which is not bad) and people still cant accept it for whatever reason.
The nature of ther confession was about romantic feelings which she hasnt developed yet.

The bolded just represent my point perfectly i'll give you a 10/10 for this post.

 

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Haha, well thank you very much.  I do think we differ slightly in one aspect, on the possibility of whether or not she developed feelings for Naruto.  I think it's quite possible that she has developed romantic/sexual feelings for Naruto, but she's not aware of them and that she can't/won't act on them until she's over Sasuke romantically/sexually (and honestly, if Sakura realizes her feelings for Naruto before she's over Sasuke, can you imagine the sort of shaming the character would receive?  I hope Kishimoto has Sakura clarify her feelings for Sasuke first, the poor, fictional girl receives enough hate.).

 

 

Sakura's confession is so complex that it won't be fair to label it as fake vs. real.

 

 

Very true, her confession was very complex, very ambiguous so much so that there isn't a right answer.  I think it can be interpreted in many ways.  I know many dislike her confession to Naruto, but it's one of my favorite moments.  I think it was one of Kishi's best "writer" moments, and seeing what Sakura went through, what she was willing to go through etc etc...it's one of my favorite Sakura moments.

 



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:22 AM

I can't with the "she can't love Naruto because she loves Sasuke" at all tbh. There is a such thing as loving two individuals and being conflicted. As Sushi stated, there is no right answer to her confession until SHE clarifies what they were at that particular time. Until then, it will and will remain up for intepretation. There's no denial when it comes to how certain NS fans feel over that scene. If she didn't retaliate and go into defense mode, I'd be saying she likely lied about it all but she retaliated, and she didn't deny what was being questioned of her.

Anyway, I've always felt she developed feelings for Naruto subconsciously throughout the story. Someone made an excellent point. I don't remember who, but they made a comparison between Naruto and Sakura and how they are similar regarding the fact that they don't give up. Her fights reinforce this and it could very well transfer over to her feelings. She probsbly wanted to believe Sasuke was the one and she held on to hope because she didn't want to fail in winning his affections
Sounds familiar right? The only difference is, with Naruto and his affections, he gained a ton of ground and he's on his way to winning her over completely. Just my two cents.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:26 AM

uh what irks me the most right now is the confession scene because the english dub just reached episode 206, and those sakura haters just love throwing their comments at us. Some of them were even like useless sakura only wants sasuke so bad, and even one comment said Kishi was making sakura her honest, but a hater said, "That's  a big lie, in denial narusaku fanboy". I'm sitting here going like "Yeah keep being in denial about that because  it's gonna hurt you guys more once another Narusaku moment comes up at the end of the war" not be bashing, but I'm just speaking the truth.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:43 AM

 

Haha, well thank you very much.  I do think we differ slightly in one aspect, on the possibility of whether or not she developed feelings for Naruto.  I think it's quite possible that she has developed romantic/sexual feelings for Naruto, but she's not aware of them and that she can't/won't act on them until she's over Sasuke romantically/sexually (and honestly, if Sakura realizes her feelings for Naruto before she's over Sasuke, can you imagine the sort of shaming the character would receive?  I hope Kishimoto has Sakura clarify her feelings for Sasuke first, the poor, fictional girl receives enough hate.).

 

 

I believe she did, she does have an attraction to him but she has to resolve her issue with Sasuke first

It's not about talking to him but rather realizing what love really is.
She does love Naruto but doesnt acknowledge on a romance level, the question is why?
It's answered on the summit, she bluntly believes she loves Sasuke, she believes she's an horrible person and has a low view about herself.
i believe that NS needs an impactfull moment where she realizes it, Naruto never talked about what he views on Sakura, he doesnt need a confession but he justn eeds to compliment her, or at least fix this low view about herself.

 

 

I can't with the "she can't love Naruto because she loves Sasuke" at all tbh. There is a such thing as loving two individuals and being conflicted. As Sushi stated, there is no right answer to her confession until SHE clarifies what they were at that particular time. Until then, it will and will remain up for intepretation. There's no denial when it comes to how certain NS fans feel over that scene. If she didn't retaliate and go into defense mode, I'd be saying she likely lied about it all but she retaliated, and she didn't deny what was being questioned of her.

Anyway, I've always felt she developed feelings for Naruto subconsciously throughout the story. Someone made an excellent point. I don't remember who, but they made a comparison between Naruto and Sakura and how they are similar regarding the fact that they don't give up. Her fights reinforce this and it could very well transfer over to her feelings. She probsbly wanted to believe Sasuke was the one and she held on to hope because she didn't want to fail in winning his affections
Sounds familiar right? The only difference is, with Naruto and his affections, he gained a ton of ground and he's on his way to winning her over completely. Just my two cents.

 

It's up to your interpretation, like morgana said, there's a difference between Love and Romantic Love.

On the confession we saw Sakura's "Love" for Naruto stronger than her "Romantice/Sexual Love" for Sasuke.

Still she could not kill him but it was strong enough to accept the idea of being Naruto's girlfriend without "romantically loving him".

I mean the point is, she acknowledged that her "love" for him was enough, but Naruto knew that she loved Sasuke and he was right, Sakura also knew it would not work, but she did the confession anyway and the reason was because she could not bring herself to tell him the truth, the truth would hurt him which he even fainted so it's not to blame her.
She yes, like you pointed out, she does feel attracted to Naruto on that level, but the fact is that she has yet to grow up and i feel that she's not blatantly in love with Naruto to a point that she can say without any second doubts, Kishi himself has stated many times that Sakura doenst have words to describe her feelings for Naruto, which were is the catch, she has to resolve this issue with Sasuke, she doesnt need to talk with him but if she grows up and stop thinking low about herself she would surely stop loving him.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:53 AM

But does that mean that she absolutely loves Naruto in a romantic/sexual manner already?  No, but I do think Kishimoto seems to be striving for the possibility that she does but cannot realize her feelings because she's still hung up on Sasuke, because she has a low self confidence when it comes to romance, and primarily because if she realizes her feelings for Naruto and moves on from Sasuke too soon, the romantic plot would be finished.


You have some good points but I don't think we can conclude that the only thing barring Sakura from being with Naruto is her feelings for Sasuke. It is currently quite ambiguous when it comes to Sakura's feelings towards Naruto, and it seems rather disappointing that a large group of the fanbase are quickly to dismiss her feelings towards Naruto as "purely platonic" because she doesn't fangirl over him.

The one thing we do know is that Sakura can't reciprocate Naruto's feelings because I doubt Kishimoto would want a pairing to be canon until the end or near the end of the manga. Becoming a canon couple is just the end of the destination; it wouldn't be entertaining otherwise.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 02:09 AM

You have some good points but I don't think we can conclude that the only thing barring Sakura from being with Naruto is her feelings for Sasuke. It is currently quite ambiguous when it comes to Sakura's feelings towards Naruto, and it seems rather disappointing that a large group of the fanbase are quickly to dismiss her feelings towards Naruto as "purely platonic" because she doesn't fangirl over him.

The one thing we do know is that Sakura can't reciprocate Naruto's feelings because I doubt Kishimoto would want a pairing to be canon until the end or near the end of the manga. Becoming a canon couple is just the end of the destination; it wouldn't be entertaining otherwise.

I think we can all agree that he cant even hold SS anymore after what he've done, showing any kind of SS fanservice would just ruin her character, look at Karin and Ino.

For me Ns is inevitable i'm just looking forward to how he will do it, Obi/Rin might play or not nd most important Sakura being Kushina killed off the charade.


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