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#561 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:22 AM

QUOTE (Qia @ Jan 17 2013, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unless Karin meets up with him somehow biggrin.gif Then we'll get some Team Taka. They're interesting.

I agree. They are pretty fun to watch. But I think we won't see him until new arc. I think Kishi is doing what that guy from FT did. Show a glimpse of the future (no pun intended) and continue to read the current moment.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:29 AM

Watch Kishi have SasuKarin reconcile their relationship somehow.

Personally, even though I hate sideshipping and the drastic similarities between SS and SK, I could still see it happen in some way.

Preferably, I'd like to see Karin hit Sasuke. It seems plausible, given how she doesn't normally take his BS. -shrugs-

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:33 AM

QUOTE (Qia @ Jan 17 2013, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unless Karin meets up with him somehow biggrin.gif Then we'll get some Team Taka. They're interesting.

I prefer Team Kakashi over Team Taka. Besides, even with Juugo, Karin and Suigetsu there, the focus is going to stay on Sasuke and his scroll, (likely another hax power up that he doesn't have to work for). Please, Kishi, don't ruin this arc by throwing Sasuke in it. He's so bland. I'll pull my hair out if I have to sit through another Sasuke arc. I had to buy extensions after the Danzou fight. arg.gif


Am I the only one around here that doesn't want Karin to meet up with Sasuke? The poor girl has been through enough with that turd.
She should stay in Konoha. I want her to be with the good guys. love.gif
I was really disappointed when Kishimoto drew her squealing over his picture. facepalm.png

Edited by Slextrem, 18 January 2013 - 03:37 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

Pairing poll anyone?
Please I want to know more about it. mellow.gif

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:52 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 17 2013, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I prefer Team Kakashi over Team Taka. Besides, even with Juugo, Karin and Suigetsu there, the focus is going to stay on Sasuke and his scroll, (likely another hax power up that he doesn't have to work for). Please, Kishi, don't ruin this arc by throwing Sasuke in it. He's so bland. I'll pull my hair out if I have to sit through another Sasuke arc. I had to buy extensions after the Danzou fight. arg.gif


Am I the only one around here that doesn't want Karin to meet up with Sasuke? The poor girl has been through enough with that turd.
She should stay in Konoha. I want her to be with the good guys. love.gif
I was really disappointed when Kishimoto drew her squealing over his picture. facepalm.png


It might...I just want Karin to slap Sasuke or something. She just seems like the kind of girl that would, despite the possibility of her feelings still being there. She never once took Sasuke's s***, so yea. Plus, Juugo and Suigetsu don't exactly know he tried to kill her because he, well, snapped and all. I have to admit that when it came to that fight...I sort of skipped some chapters if I could? tongue.gif. Ohh well.

I can't see her staying in Konoha. She's still pretty much a criminal. And I think that whole picture thing was a scheme of hers in order to escape from where they were holding her. Like a distraction.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:58 AM

I actually don't mind some Sasuke focus. It's really interesting to see that he's back in Konoha again. Not happily of course but I wonder if some part of Sasuke will begin to let go of destroying Konoha. I don't expect at all for Sasuke to suddenly think, "You know what? I don't want to kill all of Konoha now." He's far too stubborn for that. But I'm hoping some part of his heart softens. Itachi laid the groundwork. Now it's time to see if that goes anywhere, for better or worse.

Despite this, I'm much more interested in the Juubi vs. Alliance fight (as well as what the hell's happening to the Kages) than Sasuke's mysterious adventure. Compared to those, it does seem bland. xD I'm under the impression that Kishi's shoving the pairing stuff out of the way for a bit. Thank goodness honestly. I despise it when I care more about shipping status than plot. sweat.gif And the best part? Now that 615 was confirmed to most likely be a troll, I can read the manga normally again with worrying over NS. happy.gif Looks like things are back to normal, folks. a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 17 2013, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually don't mind some Sasuke focus. It's really interesting to see that he's back in Konoha again. Not happily of course but I wonder if some part of Sasuke will begin to let go of destroying Konoha. I don't expect at all for Sasuke to suddenly think, "You know what? I don't want to kill all of Konoha now." He's far too stubborn for that. But I'm hoping some part of his heart softens. Itachi laid the groundwork. Now it's time to see if that goes anywhere, for better or worse.

Despite this, I'm much more interested in the Juubi vs. Alliance fight (as well as what the hell's happening to the Kages) than Sasuke's mysterious adventure. Compared to those, it does seem bland. xD I'm under the impression that Kishi's shoving the pairing stuff out of the way for a bit. Thank goodness honestly. I despise it when I care more about shipping status than plot. sweat.gif And the best part? Now that 615 was confirmed to most likely be a troll, I can read the manga normally again with worrying over NS. happy.gif Looks like things are back to normal, folks. a_thumbs.gif



I'm quite curious about what Sasuke's group is doing in Konoha. Like I posted awhile ago, I think Kishi's probably setting the stage for Team 7's explosive reunion.

Of course, it's possible that it's because I'm totally ready for this War arc to be over and done with. Yes, it's indeed possible. pictureem0.gif

I can think of the possibilities, considering how much damage Sasuke AND Orochimaru can do.....

Will the heroes of the war find their home in ruins?

Find out next time on Naruto Z!
*cue episode preview music*

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:38 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 18 2013, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is just what i'm talking, for Naruto it wasnt romantic.
if we talk about reader's perspective we have a huge amount of romantic scenes, if we talk about characters so we have two or three scenes (of mutual)
I was talking that this scene didnt made any hint of Naruto >> Hinata.


And I said I agree, but that wasn't my point. The point was, even though the chapter wasn't mutual, it was romantic.

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jan 18 2013, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. I don't think Hinata's story is concluded, and I didn't see it the last few times we went through this (with all Hinata's little fawning remarks at the beginning of the war).

I think if anything Kishimoto has left a breadcrumb trail for this pairing since the war arc started, as well as for Sakura.

Hinata's thoughts have been romantic, and their interaction from her pov has a fulfillment of those thoughts.

Naruto slapping everyone else's hand wouldn't have lessened her one-on-one interaction any. She just confirmed that it was the resolution of what she had been thinking and wanting. To stand beside him and hold his hand. She didn't mean that as a friend, and she ain't gonna stop now that she's gotten it!

And I completely agree that this was a romantic, fan-servicey moment. The images look like something off of deviantArt. Not from the manga. Anyway, I agree with where you're coming from!


Thankyou. I actually thought the scene was a fanart the first time I saw it on Tumblr. I just don't think we're out of the woods yet.

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 18 2013, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We can apply this moment as romantic to the audience, but we shouldnt see it as any moment that brings NH any nearer to canon, since there was no romantic sign from narutos side.
As said the audience can see it romantic but the moment itself was just for Hinata development not to make NH closer to canon.

@NaruSaku4life3g: Fully agree there!


He sat there and didn't do anything, so it wasn't a downright rejection either. Maybe Naruto hasn't decided yet, or maybe his ignorance about Hinata's feelings are still a running gag.

QUOTE (Candleguy @ Jan 18 2013, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the funny thing how many non-NS fans would say that Sakura's hug was romantic though?

Somewhere in this fandom there is a major double standard, and that's what bug me. You're being asked to accept the romantic light of Hinata's hand holding, but if you went and argued the possible romantic light of the NS hug back then it would be dismissed as platonic. And I'm not saying that dismissal was unreasonable but if you make that argument the standard applied to that hug apply here.

There are arguments to say there is some romantic context to both of them or there is no romantic context to either. I have yet to hear why Hinata's scenario is more plausibly romantic. then the Sakura hug.

Yet tons of people wholeheartedly accepted the Hinata hand holding as romantic just by face value. Some of these same people of course were quick to judge the NS hug as platonic.

So what standards of context are people using to decide what does or what does not have romantic context?


Wait, are you calling me a non-NS fan?

I've never suggested Sakura's hug was anything less than romantic. It was probably one of my favourite scenes in part II. If you actually read some of my posts down the line, you would've realised I was comparing Sakura's hug to Hinata's face-touching because they were both romantic, despite not being a kiss and not being reciprocated. Personally, I think Sakura's hug can be considered more romantic if you consider what both of them had been through at that point. However, I wasn't comparing which scene was more romantic, I was simply comparing the two to argue that they were both romantic.

It seems like I've created a monster here. Everybody seems to be keen to jump me and dissect how Sakura's hug was more significant. Unfortunately, I'm not here to argue that naruhina is leading the race.

Edited by Nefertieh, 18 January 2013 - 04:47 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:12 AM

@Nefertieh

Naw, I doubt it's you, specifically, I've seen it happen quite a bit.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:20 AM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 18 2013, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm quite curious about what Sasuke's group is doing in Konoha. Like I posted awhile ago, I think Kishi's probably setting the stage for Team 7's explosive reunion.

Of course, it's possible that it's because I'm totally ready for this War arc to be over and done with. Yes, it's indeed possible. pictureem0.gif

I can think of the possibilities, considering how much damage Sasuke AND Orochimaru can do.....

Will the heroes of the war find their home in ruins?

Find out next time on Naruto Z!
*cue episode preview music*


Oh Gawd, I hope not. arg.gif I have this ever constant fear in the back of my mind that Sasuke would do something so unbelievably atrocious, my wish for Team 7 together will never be fulfilled. I still remember how upset and angry I was when Sasuke turned a 180 after fighting Itachi and figuring out the truth. My line of thinking was pretty much shock, then "No way. Maybe he doesn't mean it. Maybe Sasuke's trying to fool Madara. I won't believe this! He's supposed to return to Konoha as a good guy!" I was in a very sad case of denial for a short time until I saw he actually did mean it and that led me to be angry at him because he had just gotten worse. facepalm.png Maybe I was somewhat of a Sasuke fangirl then XD but never enough to excuse the bad things he did. Now though? My slight Sasuke fangirly-ness disappeared ever since the Kage Summit and though I love him and his complexities, I bash him more than I support him nowadays. laugh.gif At least until Sasuke stops acting like a whiny, emo idiot. rolleyes.gif

But the possibilities are indeed endless. Orochimaru and Sasuke in the Leaf village ... kitten's about to go down. wink.gif However, I don't think Sasuke's angry enough to go on a rampage. He seems more calm and focused than before. Knowing Kishi, who has a tendency to walk on eggshells when it comes to "Sasuke" and "unforgivable dark acts", I'm guessing Emo dude isn't gonna go raging psycotic on us yet like he did in the Kage Summit. cool.gif

I actually can't wait for the next Team 7 reunion. They're always so dramatic, it usually ends up as one of my favorite moments. SasuNaruness is always a plus, but it's interesting to think of how Sakura will react to this. I wonder if through this, she'll get one step closer to realizing who she actually loves. It seems like she has to really chose between them. The time is coming very closely for Sakura.

Agreed. This war seems so ridiculously long, I can't even believe how in the Narutoverse it's only been a few days. How long has it been going on now? Two years? Longer? I just want to see why Kakashi killed Rin and how Obito will be resolved already. I'm ready for a change of pace. happy.gif

Lol at the Dragonball Z reference. laugh.gif

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 18 January 2013 - 05:24 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:22 AM

I'm happy that Hinata wasn't the only one getting chakra... HOWEVER.... Guys, we really can't negate the context of 615... and Sakura didn't get anything either! >_< Naruto held Hinata's hand so much longer and appreciated her. he didn't do that with anyone else. Plus I dont even think hinata is apart of the plan (it was for ino-shika-chou) which would mean that Naruto grabbed Hinata's hand and then gave her chakra of his own free will.

And Naruto sent off clones to high five the alliance. the real Naruto is STILL with Hinata.... he never left her... And now Sasuke is showing up... Sakura is no where in sight... I'm glad we can breathe a little bit but we cannot let our guard down. It was Kurama that helped with Naruto's chakra so that means Naruto himself was the one that grabbed Hinata's hand, you understand? I'm not trying to be pessimistic here, I just want to be realistic.

I really hope Sakura gets chakra cause then we can REALLY say it may have been troll. But for now Naruhina was not trolled. Nothing happened/progressed but it wasnt trolled and its not dead. because if we call this a troll, then we are being a bit hypocritical in my opinion with what happened in 469. NaruSaku is not dead either of course. I think 469 was a bump in the road and showed Sakura caring for Naruto's well being over Sasuke. We just need to be patient...

I'm wondering what Madara's comment on Hinata was all about. :/

Edited by AnimeGirl_123, 18 January 2013 - 05:25 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE (AnimeGirl_123 @ Jan 17 2013, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm happy that Hinata wasn't the only one getting chakra... HOWEVER.... Guys, we really can't negate the context of 615... and Sakura didn't get anything either! >_< Naruto held Hinata's hand so much longer and appreciated her. he didn't do that with anyone else. Plus I dont even think hinata is apart of the plan (it was for ino-shika-chou) which would mean that Naruto grabbed Hinata's hand and then gave her chakra of his own free will.

And Naruto sent off clones to high five the alliance. the real Naruto is STILL with Hinata.... he never left her... And now Sasuke is showing up... Sakura is no where in sight... I'm glad we can breathe a little bit but we cannot let our guard down. It was Kurama that helped with Naruto's chakra so that means Naruto himself was the one that grabbed Hinata's hand, you understand? I'm not trying to be pessimistic here, I just want to be realistic.

I really hope Sakura gets chakra cause then we can REALLY say it may have been troll. But for now Naruhina was not trolled. Nothing happened/progressed but it wasnt trolled and its not dead. NaruSaku is not dead either! We just need to be patient...

I'm wondering what Madara's comment on Hinata was all about. :/



Pretty sure it was because she was the first to use narutos chakra for the offensive, so it was just him talking about the power up and nothing more.

And about the hand grab, he pretty much HAD to grab it, not just for chakra but also for the fact that if he didn't, her hand would still be on his face, do you know how awkward that would be for her hand to still be sitting there lol.

Edited by zatheko, 18 January 2013 - 05:27 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:28 AM

Well, damage ain't limited to wholesale slaughter, y'know. wink.gif


Maybe they're there for some covert assignment requiring stealth, guile, and intelligence....

Yet, they're standing in the middle of some kind of park.... In full regalia..... ninja.gif

Granted, they're there at night, but.... Ninja? Wanted missing nin status? headscratch.gif

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Well, Konoha's probably vastly unguarded now that the Alliance HQ is destroyed and, well, most of the Shinobi are out there fighting something the size of a mountain.....


Hrm, you think they're just gonna gather information on where everyone are and then run over to the battlefield?

Ooh, then a bout between Sasuke and Naruto in front of the entire Shinobi Alliance! cool.gifcool.gif

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:28 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Jan 18 2013, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty sure it was because she was the first to use narutos chakra for the offensive, so it was just him talking about the power up and nothing more.


I hope so. because he didnt comment on anyone else. When will we get the raw? I did NOT like manga streams version of his line. Ugh. NaruSaku drought is so rough. heck SAKURA drought too. Please let her get chakra and from the real Naruto to even out the game with Naruhina. Naruto loves Sakura, so she should be playing a part in the war with him.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:31 AM

QUOTE (AnimeGirl_123 @ Jan 17 2013, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope so. because he didnt comment on anyone else. When will we get the raw? I did NOT like manga streams version of his line. Ugh. NaruSaku drought is so rough. heck SAKURA drought too. Please let her get chakra and from the real Naruto to even out the game with Naruhina. Naruto loves Sakura, so she should be playing a part in the war with him.


Thats really all you need to remember, naruto loves sakura, hinata can have as many romantic moments with naruto as she wants, but if its not romantic to naruto himself, it won't matter.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Jan 18 2013, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats really all you need to remember, naruto loves sakura, hinata can have as many romantic moments with naruto as she wants, but if its not romantic to naruto himself, it won't matter.


Yes and until that changes, NaruSaku is here to stay. Why should it change? Naruto never gives up. I hate how many antis downplay his love. You can obviously see his blush when she tells him she loves him. They say that his love is the least developed. Ok, maybe it is the least show cased but there have been many moments that are more powerful to overcome the lack of show case. Like the hospital scene and promise of a lifetime. You can SEE the seriousness in Naruto's feelings. That's why when Kiba teased Naruto about Hinata and 615 happened... I was very confused. Why is Kishi starting Naruto ----> Hinata NOW? if Naruhina was end game shouldn't it have been developed long ago? Instead we have Narusaku development since PART ONE. I really can't wait until the war is over and team 7 has it's time. We will most likely know what pairings are then.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

QUOTE (AnimeGirl_123 @ Jan 17 2013, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes and until that changes, NaruSaku is here to stay. Why should it change? Naruto never gives up. I hate how many antis downplay his love. You can obviously see his blush when she tells him she loves him. They say that his love is the least developed. Ok, maybe it is the least show cased but there have been many moments that are more powerful to overcome the lack of show case. Like the hospital scene and promise of a lifetime. You can SEE the seriousness in Naruto's feelings. That's why when Kiba teased Naruto about Hinata and 615 happened... I was very confused. Why is Kishi starting Naruto ----> Hinata NOW? if Naruhina was end game shouldn't it have been developed long ago? Instead we have Narusaku development since PART ONE. I really can't wait until the war is over and team 7 has it's time. We will most likely know what pairings are then.


Well it's not really developing naruto to hinata, I see it as jsut hinata development, hinatas character is pretty much BASED on naruto, so it makes sense to have him play a part in her development, and when kiba made that comment, naruto didn't even aknowledge it. I'm sure if someone made that comment about sakura instead of hinata he would have done something.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:45 AM

Isn't it the Hyuuga's part of the plan to protect/shield Naruto right now? If so, they should all probably get a bit of a boost right now. They'll need to be fighting off anything that comes in his direction. *I could have misread though XD*

Again, so little time actually passed in this chapter. We can consider this chapter "Phase 1". Next will be "Phase 2", for which another group of people will probably get a Kurama chakra boost. Then there's "Phase 3, 4, etc." Be patient and wait for the plan to come into fruition. Sakura's part in this is not coming until later most likely.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:50 AM

^Maybe to shield him but not to give chakra, so thats why I think Naruto held Hinata's hand and gave her chakra on his own.

@zatheko - I don't think Kiba's comment was just Hinata development... If it was, he would be teasing her... Not Naruto. He didn't respond but he didn't deny it either. And 615 was boarder line mutual between them even though Hinata's side was romantic and Naruto's may or may not have been. I'm just trying to be a bit open minded, and looking at things from all sides. Ultimately though it's NaruSaku that has the most development. It's NARUSAKU that was there since chapter three. It can't be erased in three chapters.

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Jan 17 2013, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm just afraid that kishi is not done with NaruHina moments(or Hinata Moments). I just fear since Hinata is right next to Naruto, I feel next chapter might be another Hinata moment or even worse a NaruHina moment. I just hope kishi use this opportunity to finally end NaruHina by a short dialogue about their feelings next chapter.


SAME HERE. this is what is bothering me! WHY are they STILL next to each other if the hand holding stuff was only for chakra? Hinata even got to attack the Juubi yet after that she is next to Naruto and he did not leave her side either. Shouldn't he be fighting? Maybe he will leave her side next chapter to attack. I think that would make more sense. He can't be next to her forever. I don't think we will get much talk of their feelings next chapter, I just hope we don't get anymore Naruhina stuff. They still got something small this chapter too (cause they were still holding hands and such) so hopefully next chapter they will completely separate. I have a feeling we will see Sakura again soon too. Maybe not a Narusaku moment, but Sakura doing something in the war. It would be awesome for her to smash the Juubi and Naruto be impressed by her like he was in the bell test. laugh.gif

TO BE HONEST. I somewhat like Naruhina because it was my first Naruto ship. But Narusaku just has so much more. So I would be extremely disappointed if he continues with Naruhina.

Edited by AnimeGirl_123, 18 January 2013 - 05:51 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:52 AM

QUOTE (AnimeGirl_123 @ Jan 17 2013, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@zatheko - I don't think Kiba's comment was just Hinata development... If it was, he would be teasing her... Not Naruto. He didn't respond but he didn't deny it either. And 615 was boarder line mutual between them even though Hinata's side was romantic and Naruto's may or may not have been. I'm just trying to be a bit open minded, and looking at things from all sides. Ultimately though it's NaruSaku that has the most development. It's NARUSAKU that was there since chapter three. It can't be erased in three chapters.


I didn't mean the comment was for her development, I'm saying that the comment proved that he doesn't feel that way about hinata, if he was really in love with hinata a comment like that wouldn't be COMPLETELY ignored, he would have shown something whether a blush or a comment back or some sort of face, instead the first thing he does it talk to sakura.

Edited by zatheko, 18 January 2013 - 05:53 AM.





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