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#5761 SuperChief

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:51 PM



I think SS may not be necro'ed in the movie timeline as we got nothing of it in the trailers...

 

I feel like Sasuke will be totally apart in the storyline. Maybe protecting the kages from the meteorites to gain some good reputation back, when Naruto and co deal with the villain and sh*tty love dramu.

 

SasuSaku is the biggest hetero ship in Japan. If it was going to be in the film, SP would have leveraged that popularity already, like they did with RTN - which was hilarious considering how little Sasuke was actually in that film.

 

 



 

Correct. Go back and read the manga for those who are unclear. When Hinata is out cold during the pain fight, Sakura has a sad look when she realizes she loves Naruto, and has a shocked/jealous face when Naruto holds Hinata's hand. (Which he did to comfort her after Neji's death + Give her chakra + thank her for being by his side, not a blush in sight). 

 

Yup.

 

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Now I'm curious. How many of you considered NS to be most the likely end-pairing after at least the first 10 chapters/episodes in the manga/anime? Because I surely did...

 
I didn't give two kittens about any of the pairings until Chūnin Exams when Naruto went all out against Gaara in order to save Sakura.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:51 PM

Sasuke has a poncho. Not a cape wrapped around his head. I'm 100% sure that's just another henchman.

plus none of sasuke's techniques have orange, it's just not his color


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#5763 abloublou

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:52 PM

Now I'm curious. How many of you considered NS to be most the likely end-pairing after at least the first 10 chapters/episodes in the manga/anime? Because I surely did...

I started seeing it as extremelly likely when we see Sakura blushing when meeting grown up Naruto.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:53 PM

Honestly, NaruSaku never came to mind for me at first, since I saw Naruto's crush on Sakura as comic relief, since Sakura would usually kick his ass if it came up, lol.

SasuSaku was the most likely to me, but that was only because Sakura liked Sasuke. Glad that's not the case now though :sweatdrop:

I trusted you! :argh: 

XD I understand your position, the reason I said most likely was because back then, in part 1, I considered SS a threat as well :yes:


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:56 PM

I trusted you! :argh: 
XD I understand your position, the reason I said most likely was because back then, in part 1, I considered SS a threat as well :yes:

I'm sorry! :argh:
NaruSaku really didn't occur to me until part 2, but I didn't start shipping it until the CPR chapter. I was converted after that beautiful moment :wub:
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:56 PM

Now I'm curious. How many of you considered NS to be most the likely end-pairing after at least the first 10 chapters/episodes in the manga/anime? Because I surely did...

I was,but as the story progressed i forgot about pairings coz i was too much into the story and then part 2 i remembered it greaty and started to ship strongly from the moment where naruto returns to the village after been gone with jiraiya for 3 yrs.I so loved the part where sakura asked naruto whether she's more womanly...from then heaven and earth bridge onwards my shipping for narusaku increased with each moment/interaction and panel,to put it bluntly the entire manga coz they have been together all the time....sai reveal to sakura about naruto's love....LOI arc....then the warc arc.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:58 PM

Anyone thought that Naruto confessed to Sakura at the end of the manga and she accepts. I think the big secret in the movie is that their together, I find it strange that they haven't reveal Sakura's role in the movie.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:59 PM

 
You're assuming the movie is NH because of well crafted trailers and concern. It's very likely the movie is what the professor told his student on that page, a way to send off Hinata and have her character addressed and story-line fulfilled by having her own journey, at the same time making Sakura realize her jealousy (which she has shown in all moments Hinata has shown love for Naruto that she was present for). It's a common literary device, you have the main female character confused about her feelings for the main male, which are resolved when another woman shows credible interest. I think this movie will have Hinata play a larger role, have her feelings addressed, and her story resolved but I don't see NH happening. It just doesn't work, fit, or make sense with everything else Kishi has written and put out throughout Naruto. 
 
This movie will be about more than just Hinata's first love, it will also be about Naruto's. As you've suggested, if NS hasn't happened in the movie, then it wasn't resolved in the manga. Which means it has to be in the movie. Kishi didn't spend all that time developing characters, physically being exhausted drawing them, wrapping Kushina's character around Sakura and using her as a means of sending a NS undertone to just not resolve it.
 
Again, gotta leave the caveat that all this may be false if Kishi just got lazy and let SP dictate the end of his story, which even knowing Kishi, I don't think He'd do. The man has always been NS, its what he's given the most time to, follows in line with the literary style he's had all along, and is the only way to not break Sakura's development and Naruto's way of ninja. 


I'm not assuming anything will be canon. I'm pointing out the likelihood of events based on information we so know, because people's "positive" conclusions are so unlikely that it's making me feel worse.

Hinata gave Naruto a romantic scarf.
"It must be her giving up on him!".

Sakura tells Hinata something and she blushes.
"Sakura must be encouraging Hinata to give her boyfriend a romantic scarf!"

I'm not going to even bother with what someone's professor said. She told him the series from her perspective, it's entirely possible she didn't even tell him all the facts for him to give him a balanced opinion. Plus, that would be assuming Kishimoto is consistent, which isn't very convincing at this point, now that he's added new childhood memories between Naruto and Hinata.
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:59 PM

I started seeing it as extremelly likely when we see Sakura blushing when meeting grown up Naruto.

I see your point :D

 

 

I didn't give two kittens about any of the pairings until Chūnin Exams when Naruto went all out against Gaara in order to save Sakura.

 

LOL don't misunderstand me when I said that I saw it most as the likely my reaction back then was probaby something like this: "I can see Naruto getting this girl in the end lol" no overthinking things XD I only started thinking seriously about this prossibly in part 2, because of some reason I don't remember  :argh: 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:00 PM

Everyone who is still devastated and unsure of NS ... read this: 

 

http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read


"We live in a world that is so quick to convince us to ignore our feelings. Feeling stressed? Get a massage. Feeling angry? Go to the bar with your friends and blow off steam. Feeling lonely? Meet someone in cyberspace and have a conversation on the computer. Depressed? Take a pill. Anxiety? Take 2 pills. Feeling happy? Well, by George, don’t talk about that because no one likes a bragger. Same with being sad, no one likes a Debbie Downer. But, heaven FORBID, that you actually TALK about your feelings and process them in a healthy way."
 
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:01 PM

I'm sorry! :argh:
NaruSaku really didn't occur to me until part 2, but I didn't start shipping it until the CPR chapter. I was converted after that beautiful moment :wub:

Mess your a late shipper. :grouphug:



 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:02 PM

Which can mean many things easily. I agree, it's a movie about romantic love but again, that does not even remotely entail that Naruto returns that love. It could be referring to Hinata's love being addressed and Naruto's love for Sakura coming to fruition.


Ofcourse that is a possibility. But I'm simply replying to someone who said love was a subplot.
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:03 PM

I was,but as the story progressed i forgot about pairings coz i was too much into the story and then part 2 i remembered it greaty and started to ship strongly from the moment where naruto returns to the village after been gone with jiraiya for 3 yrs.I so loved the part where sakura asked naruto whether she's more womanly...from then heaven and earth bridge onwards my shipping for narusaku increased with each moment/interaction and panel,to put it bluntly the entire manga coz they have been together all the time....sai reveal to sakura about naruto's love....LOI arc....then the warc arc.

I can so relate with you in this, in part 1 the story was kittening great. Ah! Those were the days...

 

I'm sorry! :argh:
NaruSaku really didn't occur to me until part 2, but I didn't start shipping it until the CPR chapter. I was converted after that beautiful moment :wub:

NS eventually converts anyone :pimp:  except hardcore NH/SS fans

Everyone who is still devastated and unsure of NS ... read this: 

 

http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read

Someone already brought this up. But what's a good read is always welcomed :thanks:


Edited by NSmakessense, 02 November 2014 - 02:04 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

I am not very worried at all for the movie now. 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:07 PM

 
It will involve heavily Hinata's feelings of love, Kishi never really touched upon love, hints but not greatly. I see him greatly touching upon that with this flashback and Hinata moving on most likely. 


I prefer not to jump to conclusions.

It's open ended for a reason. They won't give away the endgame in a trailer. Trailers are meant to draw you in and induce hype, not give away what they know is a huge answer in a movie that fills in the gaps between the real finale this thursday in chp 700.


I'm talking about Kishimoto's official statement, not the trailer. And that was a response to someone downplaying love as a subplot.
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:08 PM

We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I suddenly remembered Neji since the plot revolves around the Hyuga clan.  :cry:


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:08 PM

Ofcourse that is a possibility. But I'm simply replying to someone who said love was a subplot.

 

Trust me its subplot. They arent making the movie  just Hinata/NH fans. Its for all fans. There are more interesting things going on in the movie. 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:08 PM

I am not very worried at all for the movie now. 


I am worried

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:08 PM

I'm not assuming anything will be canon. I'm pointing out the likelihood of events based on information we so know, because people's "positive" conclusions are so unlikely that it's making me feel worse.

Hinata gave Naruto a romantic scarf.
"It must be her giving up on him!".

Sakura tells Hinata something and she blushes.
"Sakura must be encouraging Hinata to give her boyfriend a romantic scarf!"

I'm not going to even bother with what someone's professor said. She told him the series from her perspective, it's entirely possible she didn't even tell him all the facts for him to give him a balanced opinion. Plus, that would be assuming Kishimoto is consistent, which isn't very convincing at this point, now that he's added new childhood memories between Naruto and Hinata.

 

I think Hinata is giving Naruto the scarf will be her trying to get her feelings addressed. Will happen early in the movie.

No idea what Sakura could be saying, but Hinata blushing almost always means Naruto, and as very recently pointed out Sakura is not a fan of NH. We know she's compassionate though. Not going to guess on this one.

you are absolutely right, Kishi can be inconsistent at times. But NS has been constant throughout the series. he's inconsistent with minor plot details (like Naruto forgetting to address Hinata's confession) not huge ones he's been weaving for a decade like Naruto and Sakura's relationship.

 


Edited by Hallox93, 02 November 2014 - 02:12 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 02:09 PM

Mess your a late shipper. :grouphug:

Lol, I know. I'm just happy I started shipping it before the manga is over :sweat:

NS eventually converts anyone :pimp:  except hardcore NH/SS fans

I was one of those hardcore SS fans. But that ship has sailed drastically :fan:
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