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[Codus N]

It is said that there are factions within the studio. The NS faction and ANS faction. But of course, I'd rather believe they're above that but that Hinata omake saying they're outright Hinata fanboys does look incriminating...

Another reason could be that Kishi specifically asked them to play the pairing game like that. It's also funny enough, now that you think about it, that Sakura-centric endings are often some of the best they can offer. On the other hand, that Hinata ending in Pain arc..... UGH. Just horrible. Period.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It is said that there are factions within the studio. The NS faction and ANS faction. But of course, I'd rather believe they're above that but that Hinata omake saying they're outright Hinata fanboys does look incriminating...

Another reason could be that Kishi specifically asked them to play the pairing game like that. It's also funny enough, now that you think about it, that Sakura-centric endings are often some of the best they can offer. On the other hand, that Hinata ending in Pain arc..... UGH. Just horrible. Period.

Yeah, I remember how they admitted that there are Hinata fans in there. It was rather strange since I didn't think they would admit it. Obvious, yes, but still.

I know right? Even if it's a pairing game, at least they somewhat acknowledge that Sakura is in love with both but undecided which one she loves the most or rather true love. Granted she hasn't have that thought yet, but it would seem the studio believes that she loves both but yet come to the decision. At least, we're not alone. Time will tell.

Good god. I remember that Hinata ending. Yeah, one of the worst of all time. Good thing Sakura makes fun of it, huh?

[Codus N]

And Sakura's endings are some of the best in the series. That's saying something.

Edited by Codus N, 17 August 2012 - 08:09 AM.

[Nefertieh]

When Naruto rejected Sakuras confession. lol

Ha, that certainly added more drama into my ship. Which isn't completely a bad thing because they relationship is definitely not "brother/ sister" as some people would say.

I hope eventually we will get a proper resolution on it. That whole scene is still confusing for a lot of people.

I consider him/her karma on the NH and SS considering their behavior toward Narusaku fans on NF for years. They had someone like ichihime coming to them. It injects some fun into the chapter commentary threads that have been needed for years. I've been tempted a few times to chime in and agree, considering the years of disgusting Sakura hate there. Ichihime is the first wave of payback time. Glad there's a hardcore NS shipper there that can get them more occupied throwing fits and seems to have a very thick skin.

Not really... I'd like to think our ship as a whole doesn't have a lot of trolls like Ichihime. Unfortunately, he's really loud. To the point where he almost sounds like a parody of a narusaku fan.

Edited by Nefertieh, 17 August 2012 - 08:58 AM.

[Codus N]

Not really... I'd like to think our ship as a whole doesn't have a lot of trolls like Ichihime. Unfortunately, he's really loud. To the point where he almost sounds like a parody of a narusaku fan.

Yeah. Me too, I feel the same way.

@NS4Life: I just remembered something.... to be honest, I hated how Bones (FMA:B's studio) got the idea of having Trisha walking in the sunlight and extending her hand to Ed first. Why?? because that concept would've been perfect for the Kyuubi training arc. Just think. Replace Ed & Al with Naruto & Bee and replace Trisha with Kushina and you get an awesome heartwarming opening. Hell, the entire of FMAB's 5th OP itself including the song would've been perfect as the 10th opening instead of the face-palmworthy one that we got. YMMV of course.

In short, I simply hated how they got to use that concept first. The opening's awesome, I just hated the fact they beat Naruto to it with that concept. My only hope is for someone willing to work with me on making a parody of it. Or some brave soul out there already doing it .

[4000TMNT]

Can anyone translate this.

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1611

[Don-kun]

Can anyone translate this.

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1611

Eh You really have a short memory?

[TouKen4Life3g]

And Sakura's endings are some of the best in the series. That's saying something.

Indeed. They are nice for sure. I just remember something. That exclusive ending. The one with Naruto planting and Sakura walking towards him. I like how they actually use the concept of the manga. Sakura feels bad because the environment was damaged, but Naruto starts to repair the damage. Sakura looks at him as Naruto looks at her back. He smiles and then, she smiles. That's so nice. Nice move for both fronts.

Yeah. Me too, I feel the same way.

@NS4Life: I just remembered something.... to be honest, I hated how Bones (FMA:B's studio) got the idea of having Trisha walking in the sunlight and extending her hand to Ed first. Why?? because that concept would've been perfect for the Kyuubi training arc. Just think. Replace Ed & Al with Naruto & Bee and replace Trisha with Kushina and you get an awesome heartwarming opening. Hell, the entire of FMAB's 5th OP itself including the song would've been perfect as the 10th opening instead of the face-palmworthy one that we got. YMMV of course.

In short, I simply hated how they got to use that concept first. The opening's awesome, I just hated the fact they beat Naruto to it with that concept. My only hope is for someone willing to work with me on making a parody of it. Or some brave soul out there already doing it .

I told you. That opening is just great. Funny, I find myself liking 10th opening. It's the most guilty pleasure opening that I ever got. After all, most of them were fillers. The current opening is disappointing because I can't get that strive that they're in a war. It's odd to me.

But to answer you about FMA: B, yes, I wish the concept wasn't used. Heck, just repeat it for Naruto. I can see Naruto doing so much (fighting Tobi, maybe fight Madara, then fighting Sasuke), all in one day. Naruto lying on a ground looking at the sky, then Naruto's parents show up with a holy light on the background and they have the expression of "You did well. Rest, Naruto." It whites out and you see Naruto smiling as he asleep. Sakura will be there and smile for him because he finally got the sleep he needed (basically replace Winry and Ed with Sakura and Naruto. It sounds perfect. The studio must hear us!

Eh You really have a short memory?

Wait, aren't they new? I didn't see them until now.

Btw, great work out there. I agree. Sakura needs to know why Naruto loves her. Other characters know why, but not Sakura. Very good point.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 17 August 2012 - 03:21 PM.

[Codus N]

I told you. That opening is just great. Funny, I find myself liking 10th opening. It's the most guilty pleasure opening that I ever got. After all, most of them were fillers. The current opening is disappointing because I can't get that strive that they're in a war. It's odd to me.

But to answer you about FMA: B, yes, I wish the concept wasn't used. Heck, just repeat it for Naruto. I can see Naruto doing so much (fighting Tobi, maybe fight Madara, then fighting Sasuke), all in one day. Naruto lying on a ground looking at the sky, then Naruto's parents show up with a holy light on the background and they have the expression of "You did well. Rest, Naruto." It whites out and you see Naruto smiling as he asleep. Sakura will be there and smile for him because he finally got the sleep he needed (basically replace Winry and Ed with Sakura and Naruto. It sounds perfect. The studio must hear us!

It also goes in line with them being his 2 "Suns". Man.... now I'm hoping someone will be willing to collaborate with me on this project. Preferably a fellow NS fan as well.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It also goes in line with them being his 2 "Suns". Man.... now I'm hoping someone will be willing to collaborate with me on this project. Preferably a fellow NS fan as well.

Bingo!

Another funny note, I wonder why there's lack of NH openings/endings. It goes to show you that they're Hinata fans, not NH fans. Just a thought occur to me.

Anyway, I just saw the opening and wow, I really wish it was Naruto opening.

[Don-kun]

@NaruSaku4Life3g

Sorry I deleted that post, I decided not to debate anymore with people who refuses to see past Hinata feelings for Naruto and Sakura sad and depressed feelings for Sasuke.

To focus only on that aspect and ignore everything else tells you that they don't care how it happens they only want it to happen, you use 10 scenarios and additionaly you tell them that Sasuke don't like Sakura and Naruto don't like Hinata that way plus he loves Sakura, but they still come back with the same argument while ignoring Naruto's feeling, the importance of Naruto in Sakura's life and the importance of Sakura in Naruto's life. The fact that Sakura feelings for Naruto are still in questions and the other boys don't see the girls that way make you wonder additionallyy the two are very close, care about one another and the two are the main characters.

If you even the resent movie it shows you exactly how Kishi see his characters.

Sakura likes Sasuke for naive reason, Sasuke doesn't care plus break her hear in the Manga, a special ending and now the movie.

Hinata thinks about how she feels for Naruto and wants Naruto, but never consider how Naruto feels about her. Kishi even went overboard by haven Hinata herself questiong Sakura about her relationship with Naruto Plus how many characters in Naruto franchise have question the relationship between Naruto and Sakura, something that is not even funny.

Sakura cares about Naruto and will go distance for him, Naruto still loves Sakura.

The Manga and his 1st Movie as being writed the same way, leaving the viewers wondering if there will be something more than friends between Naruto and Sakura and characters in the story implying that there is something between them, last straw Kushina the owner of the famous speech (find a girl like me).

Edited by NS means logic, 17 August 2012 - 04:17 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@NaruSaku4Life3g

Sorry I deleted that post, I decided not to debate anymore will people who refuses to see past Hinata feelings for Naruto and Sakura sad and depressed feelings for Sasuke.

To focus only on that aspect and ignore everything else tells you that they don't care how it happens they only want it to happen, you use 10 scenarios and additional you tell them that Sasuke don't like Sakura and Naruto don't like Hinata that way plus he loves Sakura, but they still come back with the same argument while ignoring Naruto's feeling the importance of Naruto in Sakura's life and the importance of Sakura in Naruto's life. The fact that Sakura feelings for Naruto are still in questions and the other boys don't see the girls that way.

Even the resent movie shows you exactly how Kishi see his characters.
Sakura likes Sasuke for naive reason, Sasuke doesn't care plus break her hear in the Manga a special ending and now the movie.

Hinata thinks about how she feels for Naruto and wants Naruto, but never consider how Naruto feels about her. Kishi even went overboard by haven Hinata herself questioning Sakura about her relationship with Naruto Plus how many characters in Naruto franchise have question the relationship between Naruto and Sakura that is not even funny.

Sakura cares about Naruto and will go distance for him, Naruto still loves Sakura.

That's exactly how he has been writing his Manga and his 1st Movie as being made the same way, leaving the viewers wondering if there will be something more than friends between Naruto and Sakura.

Exactly.

If this movie is like a intro to his manga, then it is really consistent. Kishi just present his characters again on the big screen. Naruto's love was addressed couple of times in the movie and even Kushina teases him, which he has a priceless reaction. Naruto wouldn't react if he didn't love Sakura. Again, there are many opportunities that Kishi could have make Naruto interested in Hinata, but none. Sakura was used to be fooled by Sasuke and once again, Sasuke is proven to be the wrong guy. Sakura understands Naruto more than ever and finds him as a close friend that she can count on. They both show that they cared for each other a lot, leaving people curious if they can be lovers. Much like in the manga, when Temari beat Tayuya and smiles at Shikamura as he smile back, people, especially my friends, thought they can be a couple. This is the same impression that leaves audience wondering. Besides, Kishi put their bonds on the spotlight.

[kirabook]

What opening is everyone speaking of? 8o

[Don-kun]

Exactly.

If this movie is like a intro to his manga, then it is really consistent. Kishi just present his characters again on the big screen. Naruto's love was addressed couple of times in the movie and even Kushina teases him, which he has a priceless reaction. Naruto wouldn't react if he didn't love Sakura. Again, there are many opportunities that Kishi could have make Naruto interested in Hinata, but none. Sakura was used to be fooled by Sasuke and once again, Sasuke is proven to be the wrong guy. Sakura understands Naruto more than ever and finds him as a close friend that she can count on. They both show that they cared for each other a lot, leaving people curious if they can be lovers. Much like in the manga, when Temari beat Tayuya and smiles at Shikamura as he smile back, people, especially my friends, thought they can be a couple. This is the same impression that leaves audience wondering. Besides, Kishi put their bonds on the spotlight.

To show you that I'm not a biased fan, If this movie was the other way NH and SS, I would be wondering if that's is really how Kishimoto see his a character, way back I made a comment saying that we should not ignore the movie since it counts as Author's intent while saying that Kishi might be given life to the dead SS and asking fans not to give up on the pairing or he is planing to kill off the pairing again.

NH and SS knows that if this is coming from Kishi it means a lot, but like always the refusal to acknowledge the odd only to focus on their own interpretation.

Things you need to wonder.
- Why Kishi made Sakura and original character when that could be avoided by making her AU.
- Why have 3 people question the relationship between NaruSaku (Kiba, Kushina, Hinata).
- Why did he need to make Saasuke a player and not show genuine feelings to Sakura giving the understanding that if Sasuke change their could be a chance between the two, but instead he is telling the viewers that Sakura feelings are naive and she needs to grow out that flaw, while telling the viewers that no matter if Sasuke is good or bad he still does not like Sakura.
- Or why he didn't avoid that scenario by haven Sakura say, this isn't the real Sasuke and she will not be persuaded by him.
- Why he make Naruto's feeling so obvious in the movie if in the Manga according to NH and SS he doesn't love her anymore.
- Why made Sakura disguise the fact that she was ok dating Naruto and later tease him about the longest date ever.

So many questions about Kishi and his characters are open to be debated, but NH and SS already built a wall, so they can only focus on Naruto not loving Sakura anymore, Sakura confession, Hinatas feelings, and 540, nothing else penetrates that wall.

Edited by NS means logic, 17 August 2012 - 05:40 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

What opening is everyone speaking of? 8o

Oh no, we were talking about how last Naruto opening should be. I suggest it should get the idea from the last opening of FMA: B. It's great and it can work.

To show you that I'm not a biased fan, If this movie was the other way NH and SS, I would be wondering if that's is really how Kishimoto see his a character, way back I made a comment saying that we should not ignore the movie since it counts as Author's intent while saying that Kishi might be given life to the dead SS and asking fans not to give up on the pairing or he is planing to kill off the pairing again.

NH and SS knows that if this is coming from Kishi it means a lot, but like always the refusal to acknowledge the odd only to focus on their own interpretation.

Thinks you need to wonder.
- Why Kishi made Sakura and original character when that could be avoided by making her AU.
- Why have 3 people question the relationship between NaruSaku (Kiba, Kushina, Hinata).
- Why did he need to make Saasuke a player and not show genuine feelings to Sakura giving the understanding that if Sasuke change their could be a change between the two, but instead he is telling the viewers that Sakura feelings are naive and she needs to grow out that flaw, while telling the viewers that no matter if Sasuke is good or bad he still does not like Sakura.
- Or why he didn't avoid that scenario by haven Sakura say, this isn't the real Sasuke and she will not be persuaded by him.
- Why he make Naruto's feeling so obvious in the movie if in the Manga according to NH and SS he doesn't love her anymore.
- Why made Sakura disguise the fact that she was ok dating Naruto and later tease him about the longest date ever.

So many questions about Kishi and his characters are open to be debated, but NH and SS already built a wall, so they can only focus on Naruto not loving Sakura anymore, Sakura confession, Hinatas, feelings and 540 nothing else penetrates that wall.

This.

It's bad when we all thought that this movie is vital to the manga in terms of direction. We all acknowledged it, but after the movie released, now it's only us that acknowledge it. It doesn't have to be canon, but it's the author intention that helps us understand clearer. When they found out the movie has NaruSaku bonds as a theme, everyone dismissed this movie and some say that the anime studio themselves did it. For those who acknowledged this movie made by Kishi, they become afraid that NaruSaku is highly the endgame. All those points you point out are the reason why Kishi intentionally did it for NaruSaku, especially this movie developed them closer. I agree with a lot of people. If the manga ends with different pairings, this movie will be awkward to watch. Wait until the manga brings another NaruSaku interaction. It will happen soon.

[HalfStarStudios]

NH fan is trying to tell me that Kishi barely did anything in this movie and hated it because the anime team didn't let him development as much as he wanted.

Seems legit huh?

[sushi.]

NH fan is trying to tell me that Kishi barely did anything in this movie and hated it because the anime team didn't let him development as much as he wanted.

Seems legit huh?

eheh..

just ask him for a source and you'll see him stfu

[Verilance]

NH fan is trying to tell me that Kishi barely did anything in this movie and hated it because the anime team didn't let him development as much as he wanted.

Seems legit huh?

That explains why he was used so much in the specials previewing the movie especially the ones where he was talking about why he wrote it in the first place.

[TouKen4Life3g]

NH fan is trying to tell me that Kishi barely did anything in this movie and hated it because the anime team didn't let him development as much as he wanted.

Seems legit huh?

That fan is right. Kishi barely did anything in the movie.

I mean he was interviewed by a lot of people, shows his face to describe the story, shows his office, got the power to ask a band to do his theme, ads that says 100% his story, made his workers cry, and so on. Yeah, I am convinced that Kishi wasn't involved. But don't worry, not like this movie is the highest gross in Naruto movies history. So, it's all good. Besides, who is Kishi? He's a biased NaruSaku fan anyway.

[choco2]

Oh no, we were talking about how last Naruto opening should be. I suggest it should get the idea from the last opening of FMA: B. It's great and it can work.


This.

It's bad when we all thought that this movie is vital to the manga in terms of direction. We all acknowledged it, but after the movie released, now it's only us that acknowledge it. It doesn't have to be canon, but it's the author intention that helps us understand clearer. When they found out the movie has NaruSaku bonds as a theme, everyone dismissed this movie and some say that the anime studio themselves did it. For those who acknowledged this movie made by Kishi, they become afraid that NaruSaku is highly the endgame. All those points you point out are the reason why Kishi intentionally did it for NaruSaku, especially this movie developed them closer. I agree with a lot of people. If the manga ends with different pairings, this movie will be awkward to watch. Wait until the manga brings another NaruSaku interaction. It will happen soon.

This.

It's good when SS fan who drew this picture, he can't lie to himself after watch the movie and saw narusaku is what kishi want
even he felt like narusaku will be next generation of minakush (after all these parallels and naruto's parents teasing him about sakura lol)


Also he start to like narusaku

NH fan is trying to tell me that Kishi barely did anything in this movie and hated it because the anime team didn't let him development as much as he wanted.

Seems legit huh?

in his interview:
he said:" This is first movie he made it and he is so happy, also he told his fans to watch it because it will be the best movie among all Naruto movies and what he wants''


NH/SS fans LOOOOOL

Edited by choco2, 17 August 2012 - 10:18 PM.