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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:22 PM

Hashi/Madara is the least thing i want being shown, i mean Madara was cool until Kishi forced Naruto/Sasuke on him, Madara lost all my respect, and Hashirama wanted to kill himself for Madara, both of them i just facepalm, i feel sorry for the second hokage, at least he was lucid enough to want to kill Madara on the right time and sadly was blamed for doing the right thing(killing Madara's brother).

If the second failed at something would be because he accepted Hashirama's request, he should had slapped him and killed Madara right there.

I agree Tobirama is my new favorite , he is a badass and the best hokage not that the others weren't but yeah like you said Hashi failed , Minato could have killed Tobito ( but that's plot ) Hiruzen died also because of plot even though he made the most mistakes ..
 

 

 

No bashing or anything , but look at this ridiculous post with these ridiculous questions a NH fan just sent to me , I couldn't help but laugh . 

 

 

few questions for you, if he really works for the narusaku japanese fans, how come that sakura is still in love with sasuke and why did she not think of naruto instead of sasuke when the ninja has given her the love letter,or both of them to make two fandoms happy, and why are narusakus moments always like.. urgh..comedy or talking about sasuke.. they haven't really had a serious moment.. why doesn't he held hands with sakura instead of hinata.. wouldn't it be right?they are on the same team lol

 

Ignore them , they just jelly ^_^.

Im currently debating with an SS fan who agreed that Sakura's love for Sasuke is selfish and most of my posts , even though she still denies or avoids 631 (says was comedy) ^^.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:26 PM

I agree Tobirama is my new favorite , he is a badass and the best hokage not that the others weren't but yeah like you said Hashi failed , Minato could have killed Tobito ( but that's plot ) Hiruzen died also because of plot even though he made the most mistakes ..
 

 

Ignore them , they just jelly ^_^.

Im currently debating with an SS fan who agreed that Sakura's love for Sasuke is selfish and most of my posts , even though she still denies or avoids 631 (says was comedy) ^^.

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HAHA , THATS HOW YOU NS IS COMING . 


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

HAHA , THATS HOW YOU NS IS COMING . 

Actually ,she is very sweet and fun to talk to also she is calm and mature , its a pleasure talking with her ^^. :happy:


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:56 PM

Awesome posts everyone :) Especially, Inferno!
 

 
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but in the last official poll which you can find in chapter 531, Hinata was actually 2 ranks above Sakura and that was actually before she got her moments this arc, I can't imagine how high she would be now.
 

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Sakura is the one not being even in top 10 here.

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Nah, no need for the apology since you dont know things quite well about the popularity. Lemme clear things up.

First of all. Im talkimg about the overall popularity poll for the top ten most popular charavters in naruto, you know, thr one where you add up all the polls including the seventh one. Yeah, hinata isnt in the top ten. And so what if sakura got 2 ranks lower than hinata here? You do know that iruka, the 4 most popular character, and sakura the seventh most popular one always get higher ranks than hinata? Hinata only beat sakura twice, counting this one would be the third. While sakura won all the others.You do know that the only reason hinata got such votes is becuase they think shes "cute" and "oppai" and maybe other reasons

but since this is the second poll for part 2 (in the 1st poll for part 2 hinata wasnt even present) which took place after her confession to naruto, she got a bit more votes than sakura and iruka. And even after hinatas only move in the manga she got number 10. Please, thats nothung compared to the rest of the top ten that do MUCH more and the japanese know very well. And this poll was during the war. And mind you, but hinata did nothing in those chapters for you to claim "something". Even though this came out after hinata had her roles in the manga which was only to confess to naruto and then disapear, and if it was something big, then why didnt hinata beat sakira through the roof? Why isnt hinata in any colorspreads for the characters? And why has she been instead neglected in naruto official artwork, advertisings in okayama and in shops and plush dolls, keychains etc? And instead its been sakura, team 7, minato kushina and many of the top ten characters?

And I doubt that just because she was the reason to kill neji, the 8th most popular character in naruto overall, get chakra from naruto and nothing after that, that it will be the reason for even higher votes for her, when in fact, I dont even expect anything compared to the rest. And instead other characters that have impressively improved and developed, for example, sakura, naruto, sasuke, ino-shika-cho, kages, obito, kakashi and many others. I dont even expect to see hinata in the next poll, if there will be one. Becuase its looking ugly for her, well, shes never really had that type of popularity. In fact, I expect high votes for the kages, team 7, team gai, team 10, hokages, obito, akatsuki.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 06:17 PM

Actually ,she is very sweet and fun to talk to also she is calm and mature , its a pleasure talking with her ^^. :happy:

Why does she support the pairing if she believes Sakura's part is selfish? I know that selfishness in human nature, but it's best to be with a guy that brings out the best in you.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 06:23 PM

I understand that you're a Sakura fan, but she isn't a good developed character. Not in my opinion.
 
She's had three moments in this war. Compared to Naruto and Sasuke and even Kakashi, she is incredibly sidelined.

I respect your opinion and all :yes: but even though im a sakura fan i wont try and make her sound better than she is, even though at times i may sound like it, but im really not. But she has had just as much as in impact as sasuke and naruto and kakashi in the manga. She hasnt had soo many roles in this war, but she has had roles, and impact full ones. Like how she solved the problem to the zetsus and figured out their secret, and how she was able to fight along side naruto and sasuke and keep up with them and restore many peoples energy and save lives and not to mention restore naruto to his full strength (im just mentioning what she did in the war, other than the things she did before the war) but its still not done and the war is still going on. Plus sakura is the heroine, so whether its war or not sakura will get more roles just like sasuke naruto and kakashi. Just becuase sasuke naruto and kakashis roles drag on more than sakira, doesnt mean they're more than her. We're still yet to see more and more from team 7 until the manga is over (as well as team 10, team gau, the hokages, kages, and enemies).

Kakashi sasuke and naruto and sakura, from what the manga shows, they have done an equal amount of development and screentime (and after them comes team 10, team gai, the hokage, kages, akatsuki etc) and in this war as well. Kakashi fought zabuza alongside his squad and defeated them. Naruto as we've seen has done all that stuff with itachi nagato and bee and after that joined the war and greatly helped and with obito as well. If theres anyone that outshines the other in team seven in terms development/screentime its naruto, but hes the hero (and even then, that doesnt mean kakashi, sasuke and sakura havent done just as good) sasuke hasnt really done anything in the war, but as of the latest chapters he has. And not to mention when he and itachi defeated kabuto. :smile:

You see, im just stating facts. You might not like how sakura is developing compared to her team mates, but thats just how you read the manga, and even though saying sakura isnt a good developed character is kinda harsh considering everything shes done in the manga and all the physical/mental development, but even so I respect your opinion.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:04 PM

Why does she support the pairing if she believes Sakura's part is selfish? I know that selfishness in human nature, but it's best to be with a guy that brings out the best in you.

Dunno ^^, the thing is she already lost  wit this statement , but now tries to downplay NS as usual ^^, saying they have no sub plot development  only main plot POAL , H&E bridge and so on. Lets see how will she react to the initiative , because i proved her that Sasuke has no feelings (Romantic for Sakura) . :smug:


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:06 PM

Why does she support the pairing if she believes Sakura's part is selfish? I know that selfishness in human nature, but it's best to be with a guy that brings out the best in you.

Coz nice guys only get friendzoned.

Look at Obito, he died for Rin and she still confessed to Kakashi after he said Obito loved her and he was a trash for trying to abandon her.

 

And in the end she dies at Kakashi's hands.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:08 PM

Dunno ^^, the thing is she already lost  wit this statement , but now tries to downplay NS as usual ^^, saying they have no sub plot development  only main plot POAL , H&E bridge and so on. Lets see how will she react to the initiative , because i proved her that Sasuke has no feelings (Romantic for Sakura) . :smug:

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

Dunno ^^, the thing is she already lost  wit this statement , but now tries to downplay NS as usual ^^, saying they have no sub plot development  only main plot POAL , H&E bridge and so on. Lets see how will she react to the initiative , because i proved her that Sasuke has no feelings (Romantic for Sakura) . :smug:

Well... he tried to kill her without hesitation.......................................


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:32 PM

Well... he tried to kill her without hesitation.......................................

It was self-defense. :zaru:  (yes, a serious argument I've heard a lot)

 

I read the chapter again. It seems even Karin's assumption(she must love him too) is based on Sakura's trick. "Ever since you left, I've regretted not going with you.", was what triggered Karin's statement. Interesting. :smug: I also find it ironic how people cling to this, yet disregard MInato's statement as ignorant..;p

 

Back to the murder attempts..

Sakura walks up to Karin after Sasuke asked Sakura to kill her. BAM, Chidori from behind. He may have suspected an ulterior motive, but it is not self-defense. Kakashi comes, they fight.

Sakura comes back to share the burden with Kakashi, she tries to kill Sasuke, but can't. He chokes her throat, and is ready to slash it.

 

That's not self-defense. Sasuke avoided the attack, then he tried to kill her. It can't be justified.

 

What makes the murder attempt so bad isn't the hesitation, but the remorse. He doesn't show remorse to Sakura, but sincerely apologized to Karin. Of course it's still not too late to apologize to Sakura, but it's really really bad when there isn't even a hint of regret, now that Sasuke is "good".


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:32 PM

Well... he tried to kill her without hesitation.......................................

They tent to convert everything into drama and angst , so no surprise there or it was self defense  . They screamed after 540 and 635 SS canon . So ... yeah .. :sweatdrop:


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:38 PM

Well... he tried to kill her without hesitation.......................................

 

Three times and counting... and there's also the fact he doesn't feel anything for her at all. Chances are not looking good for their ship. 

 

But again, who Sasuke hasn't tried to kill yet?


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:39 PM

 

Three times and counting... and there's also the fact he doesn't feel anything for her at all. Chances are not looking good for their ship. 

 

But again, who Sasuke hasn't try to kill yet?

Himself . :zaru:


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:47 PM

It's possible that Tsunade could bring it up like if she shows up, she will comment on Sakura's progress and then just bring up a small history that the seal has been passed down since Mito and so on.

That is very possible. If Mito will be brought up, it will be either from Tsunade, Hashirama or Madara. It would be nice if more information about Mito will be said if she's brought up. The Yin seal is an important power seeing that Tsunade and Mito has it.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:58 PM

That is very possible. If Mito will be brought up, it will be either from Tsunade, Hashirama or Madara. It would be nice if more information about Mito will be said if she's brought up. The Yin seal is an important power seeing that Tsunade and Mito has them.

True. I think we will get more of her later on.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:02 PM

It's funny how little impact the murder attempt on Sakura made on Sasuke's character.

Even when he tried to kill Karin, it had a big impact. The face he makes in chapter 482, page 12.

 

He tried to kill Sakura, but acts like nothing happened. We could remove it from the story and it won't change anything about Sasuke.

 

What it changed was Sakura. She got a wakeupcall, an update on his newfound cruelty.

True. I think we will get more of her later on.

I want to know about her personality. I have a feeling I will like her, and I already do. Her seal too, but I think if it were to be brought up Hashirama would've already done it. He has acknowledged Sakura after all.

 

btw guys, What do you think is the obstacle for NS?


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:18 PM

I want to know about her personality. I have a feeling I will like her, and I already do. Her seal too, but I think if it were to be brought up Hashirama would've already done it. He has acknowledged Sakura after all.

 

btw guys, What do you think is the obstacle for NS?

If Hashirama is the one to say something about Mito, I think he won't say anything about the Yin seal. Actually, I think the probability about the subject that she's brought up from won't be the seal, at least from Hashirama.

Somehow, I see it like when Hashirama and Madara are interacting then Madara brought her up concerning Kurama; his power or that the nine tailed fox was sealed in her or any other thing. But, I don't think it will be like that if she's brought up.

 

NS's obstacle is Sasuke. When the two understands their issue that concerns Sasuke then the road to NS is a clearer way in their eyes.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:24 PM

It's funny how little impact the murder attempt on Sakura made on Sasuke's character.

Even when he tried to kill Karin, it had a big impact. The face he makes in chapter 482, page 12.

 

He tried to kill Sakura, but acts like nothing happened. We could remove it from the story and it won't change anything about Sasuke.

 

What it changed was Sakura. She got a wakeupcall, an update on his newfound cruelty.

I want to know about her personality. I have a feeling I will like her, and I already do. Her seal too, but I think if it were to be brought up Hashirama would've already done it. He has acknowledged Sakura after all.

 

btw guys, What do you think is the obstacle for NS?

I've updated the blog .^^

OT: Hm , the bump of the road is her lingering feelings i think for Sasuke .

Btw do you guys think that Sasuke will get his redemption and will be allowed to go back in the village , because some people cling to that and the happy ending which i too hope for :D


Edited by Psychox, 14 August 2013 - 08:27 PM.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:41 PM

 What do you think is the obstacle for NS?

 

Sakura's indecisiveness.She got like what 3 reality checks about sasuke already, i do hope she clears her mind in upcoming chapters.


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