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#5741 swagosaurus

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:48 PM

mind=blown.



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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 3 2012, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mind=blown.


yup and lately all sakura does is frown when just thinking of sasuke.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 3 2012, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mind=blown.

Add to that the fact that Sakura has never smiled at anyone else like that in the entire series, not even Sasuke, and it adds even more meaning <3

Plus the fun fact that Naruto, likewise, has given Sakura expressions that he's never given anyone else (the smitten expression he has in 246 watching Sakura punch the ground during the second bell test comes to mind most prominently)
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:04 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't Kishimoto once say in an interview that he would give both Hinata and Sakura a chance with Naruto in the end? If that's true, then won't the clear answer be Sakura because of what Kushina said?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Dec 3 2012, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't Kishimoto once say in an interview that he would give both Hinata and Sakura a chance with Naruto in the end? If that's true, then won't the clear answer be Sakura because of what Kushina said?

I personally dont remind an interview like that. Maybe it was in part one, i dont know the interviews from part one.
But if thats true then i agree with you, but not only because of kushinas words. Also hinata already got her chance by confessing her feellings. Sakuras confession doesnt count because it was not a real confession.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Dec 3 2012, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't Kishimoto once say in an interview that he would give both Hinata and Sakura a chance with Naruto in the end? If that's true, then won't the clear answer be Sakura because of what Kushina said?

Ah! The old "didn't Kishi say in an interview" game. facepalm.png


I'm pretty sure in one of his latest interviews with Corporate magazine Kishi said NaruSaku wouldn't be cannon and that Sasuke would kill Naruto and then become the hokage of Konoha. He went on to talk about how he had no idea where people where getting the "narusaku" pairing from, going as far to say that there is no logic in the pairing whatsoever. When asked about Hinata he said she was the protagonist of the series and would be the hero in the next arc.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

Agree with branden, he never said anything on interviews about pairings.
An year ago that was a magazine talking about "love in naruto" but no interviews at all just a review about the relationships and etc...
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (Konan-sama @ Dec 3 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I wouldn't say all the time... here and there, there's moments like that. fu.png Other than that, yeah. I think it's because Sasuke is being brought up from time to time. When was the last time this happened anyways? The only time I can think of is when she was with the love-letter nin.


Well to be fair Sakura hasn't had many scenes in the war arc. 540 is still a relatively recent scene with her. Besides this, the only other major moment where she gets spotlight is 573 when she's thinking of Naruto with the rookies.

Hopefully this will change soon. I'm hoping she'll hear about Tsunade in some way.

Edited by AzureWaters, 04 December 2012 - 12:11 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:12 AM

QUOTE (Konan-sama @ Dec 3 2012, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I wouldn't say all the time... here and there, there's moments like that. fu.png Other than that, yeah. I think it's because Sasuke is being brought up from time to time. When was the last time this happened anyways? The only time I can think of is when she was with the love-letter nin.

Think of it this way: when was the last time Sakura smiled around Sasuke, because of him, or at the thought of him? Because I'm pretty sure that it was somewhere back in part one.
QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Dec 3 2012, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't Kishimoto once say in an interview that he would give both Hinata and Sakura a chance with Naruto in the end? If that's true, then won't the clear answer be Sakura because of what Kushina said?

As others have said, this is the first time I've ever heard of such an interview, so chances are it doesn't exist. The closest I've heard to that is Kishi saying that he may make one pairing canon (in response to the question of whether he would requit any of the unrequited loves in the series), and then the questioner said, "I hope Hinata gets her chance" and Kishi replied, "Me too"

I took that to mean that Hinata got the chance to confess, not that Naruto was going to reciprocate.

I would take everything from Kishi's interviews with a grain of salt; not that he lies, but he isn't going to give anything away in the interviews that's yet to be revealed. His answers are typically evasive. Also, he's been off before as well (Kakashi's year coming much later than he said it would, and we've yet to see Sakura behaving more like a heroine than she was before).
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:17 AM

The wait for this upcoming chapter has seemed incredibly long. I'm actually so excited; I'm more amped up for the Obi/Rin and Naru/Saku parallel to come into play (kishi plz) though.

Even if Obito asks Naruto what he would have done in Obito's situation, or something similar to that effect, it would be good. I understand that we all know Naruto's feelings, but it would be nice to have some reaffirmation after 150ish chapters.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Dec 3 2012, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well to be fair Sakura hasn't had many scenes in the war arc. 540 is still a relatively recent scene with her. Besides this, the only other major moment where she gets spotlight is 573 when she's thinking of Naruto with the rookies.

Hopefully this will change soon. I'm hoping she'll hear about Tsunade in some way.

Naruto and co. seem to have forgotten all about them (though I guess its not that hard to believe, given that their involved in a pressing battle with the most powerful creature imaginable, an old team mate thought dead, and a near unstoppable haxed zombie); one reason I could think of for not immediately asking for someone from the medic division to go check on the kages is because he could feel someone taking care of them in sage mode (though this could be Tsunade healing the others)

That, or Naruto will ask someone to look into it next chapter.

Or it will be ignored until after this fight.

But I agree, I would hope that Sakura gets some character development from this - its the perfect opportunity for it, and Sakura deserves it.
QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 3 2012, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The wait for this upcoming chapter has seemed incredibly long. I'm actually so excited; I'm more amped up for the Obi/Rin and Naru/Saku parallel to come into play (kishi plz) though.

Even if Obito asks Naruto what he would have done in Obito's situation, or something similar to that effect, it would be good. I understand that we all know Naruto's feelings, but it would be nice to have some reaffirmation.

Agreed 100% - I'm actually eager to see if Kishi is going to pick that thread up and run with it myself. And we don't need the reaffirmation, but at this point, it would nice to have something concrete to shut up the constant claims that he's not in love with her anymore. rolleyes.gif

Watch him switch to Sasuke in the next chapter for like the next 6 months though - I would die. I really hope he'll at least see this battle through before going anywhere not interested in Sasuke's side quest at all

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:30 AM

If he switches to Sasuke...my jimmies will be rustled ten-fold. Well, it would be interesting to see him meet back up with Karin (if that happens). I am pretty sure that the 'one who knows everything' is Madara.

Obito's reaction to Sakura (if that happens) is probably the thing I'm looking forward to the most.

Also: just a side-topic I was thinking about. Does anyone else think that the confession scene was one of the most heartwrenching, emotional moments of the manga? Because I certainly did. hit me right in the feels.

My reaction to rereading it/rewatching it:

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 4 2012, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he switches to Sasuke...my jimmies will be rustled ten-fold. Well, it would be interesting to see him meet back up with Karin (if that happens). I am pretty sure that the 'one who knows everything' is Madara.

Obito's reaction to Sakura (if that happens) is probably the thing I'm looking forward to the most.

Also: just a side-topic I was thinking about. Does anyone else think that the confession scene was one of the most heartwrenching, emotional moments of the manga? Because I certainly did.

My reaction to rereading it/rewatching it:


Are you talking about 469? I admit, I'm not a big fan of that confession. lol


Concerning Obito, he may or may not bring up Rin and relate her to Sakura. Actually I'm not sure how he would notice, unless by some interaction between Sakura and Naruto. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't, either.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:56 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 3 2012, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he switches to Sasuke...my jimmies will be rustled ten-fold. Well, it would be interesting to see him meet back up with Karin (if that happens). I am pretty sure that the 'one who knows everything' is Madara.

I would think Sasuke is thinking of who he thinks is Madara - a.k.a. Obito (cause wasn't Madara only revived after Sasuke was out of the picture? how would he even know about him?)

Sasuke showing up at that battlefield seems like it would really complicate things though. I doubt Naruto would be inclined to have their showdown with Juubi running amok in the background (the humungous creature meant to end the world kind of takes precedence), and I certainly don't see Sasuke helping Naruto's side either (b/c then what the hell are they going to fight about after?) So what is he gonna do, just hang out at the side watching? headscratch.gif Perhaps he'll just show up near the end of the battle?

But that scenario would at least ensure that Kishi will stick with this battle until it's done, so that would be good.

Agreed about Karin though - her story actually interests me, even if not as much as the current battle
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Obito's reaction to Sakura (if that happens) is probably the thing I'm looking forward to the most.

Yup, same here - hopefully we'll get to see some of that next chapter.

But as Azure said, who knows if Kishi will have Obito even notice. Because Sakura definitely would need to do something Rin-esque, and if Naruto's feelings were going to be brought up, there would have to be some sort of interaction b/t Naruto and Sakura for Obito to observe and relate to him and Rin, and that may be a bit too much to expect from him.

On the other hand, as has been said before though, Obito's love for Rin, and the love triangle in Obito's team is just so similar to Team 7's, and it's such a big part of Obito and his motivations that it seems more likely to be brought up.

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Also: just a side-topic I was thinking about. Does anyone else think that the confession scene was one of the most heartwrenching, emotional moments of the manga? Because I certainly did. hit me right in the feels.

My reaction to rereading it/rewatching it:

The confession is both aggravating and full of feels. Aggravating because its so complicated (and misunderstood, imo, by a great portion of the general fandom), and full of feels because of everything else - Sakura being so selfless in trying to help Naruto (even if she definitely should have gone about it in better ways) and put his feelings before her own, and Naruto for so obviously wanting what Sakura was saying to be true, but not being able to believe her shamefulcry0js.gif shamefulcry0js.gif shamefulcry0js.gif

These two need to talk about that already. hm.png

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:12 AM

It's not the right time to switch to Sasuke at this point. It's took nearly 40 chapters to finally bring the alliance to Naruto, so the focus isn't going to deviate just yet. Remember the Invasion of Pain? We didn't see Sasuke again until after Nagato's death. The way I see it, Chap. 593 is the last we'll see of Sasuke & his motley crew in this arc .at least The only time the story's focus might change to him is when Kishi settles whats going on right now.

Also, while I agree with Azure that Obito may or may not bring Rin up in front of Sakura, I think a lot of it revolves on whether Kishi has Sakura do anything significant with/around Naruto to prompt Obito to draw on similarities. That said, Obito's been quick to mention the things he and Naruto share, so he may deduce that Sakura is to Naruto what Rin was him, and if/when he does, he'll be almost certain to act on it.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:54 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Dec 3 2012, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would think Sasuke is thinking of who he thinks is Madara - a.k.a. Obito (cause wasn't Madara only revived after Sasuke was out of the picture? how would he even know about him?)


Well, on the page where it says that, it shows a picture of both Obito and the true Madara. But, moot point. He'll find out soon enough.

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Sasuke showing up at that battlefield seems like it would really complicate things though. I doubt Naruto would be inclined to have their showdown with Juubi running amok in the background (the humungous creature meant to end the world kind of takes precedence), and I certainly don't see Sasuke helping Naruto's side either (b/c then what the hell are they going to fight about after?) So what is he gonna do, just hang out at the side watching? headscratch.gif Perhaps he'll just show up near the end of the battle?


True, very true. IMO, I can somehow see Sasuke helping Naruto kill Madara (after he finds out what that absolute boss did to his clan).


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But as Azure said, who knows if Kishi will have Obito even notice. Because Sakura definitely would need to do something Rin-esque, and if Naruto's feelings were going to be brought up, there would have to be some sort of interaction b/t Naruto and Sakura for Obito to observe and relate to him and Rin, and that may be a bit too much to expect from him.


Well, Obito right now is seeing the similarities between him and Naruto; it almost seems like it's leading into that. Plus, with Obito's claim that Naruto will become like him, then it's borderline foreshadowing for Sakura to somehow be involved.
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On the other hand, as has been said before though, Obito's love for Rin, and the love triangle in Obito's team is just so similar to Team 7's, and it's such a big part of Obito and his motivations that it seems more likely to be brought up.


Exactly. Funny how a guy who says he's bad at writing romance makes romance one of the biggest plotpoints (relatively speaking) of the manga. It's the whole reason the manga is anything. :zaru

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The confession is both aggravating and full of feels. Aggravating because its so complicated (and misunderstood, imo, by a great portion of the general fandom), and full of feels because of everything else - Sakura being so selfless in trying to help Naruto (even if she definitely should have gone about it in better ways) and put his feelings before her own, and Naruto for so obviously wanting what Sakura was saying to be true, but not being able to believe her shamefulcry0js.gif shamefulcry0js.gif shamefulcry0js.gif

These two need to talk about that already. hm.png


That scene is such a misunderstood and for some reason, disliked subject. IMO, Kishi couldn't have done it better. I'm not sure why he would have Sakura confess in the middle of the manga, though (as romance is typically resolved at the end). He's a slippery pickle.

Bolded: Eh, I'm not sure they will talk about it. I mean, Sai pretty much explained Sakura's whole side of the story and her motives. But I could see it being brought up in the final confrontation between the two, alongside the bench scene and what-not.


QUOTE (Quinny52 @ Dec 3 2012, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, while I agree with Azure that Obito may or may not bring Rin up in front of Sakura, I think a lot of it revolves on whether Kishi has Sakura do anything significant with/around Naruto to prompt Obito to draw on similarities. That said, Obito's been quick to mention the things he and Naruto share, so he may deduce that Sakura is to Naruto what Rin was him, and if/when he does, he'll be almost certain to act on it.


This. I wonder, if he does see/act like this, what he'll do? Try to kill Sakura?

Edited by swagosaurus, 04 December 2012 - 01:55 AM.



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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Dec 4 2012, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would think Sasuke is thinking of who he thinks is Madara - a.k.a. Obito (cause wasn't Madara only revived after Sasuke was out of the picture? how would he even know about him?)

If I remember correctly Suigetsu told Sasuke after Itachi defeated Kabuto that Edo Madara didn't vanish so I think Sasuke did connect the dots and knows Tobi and Madara are not the same person.

As for Obito noticing Sakura is like Rin I won't hold my breath but who knows maybe, after all Naruto said to Sakura to heal Kakashi first which may mean he will need to be healed too (if the translation is even correct) and then Obito might notice the similiraties between their relationship and his own with Rin altough at this point it's fanfic at best.

Just my own supposition but I think the real talk between Sakura and Naruto will be before Naruto fights Sasuke I can't remember the exact chapter it was around chapter 490 but Sakura noticed that Naruto was hiding something about Sasuke maybe this time Naruto will talk to Sakura about it since he learned his lesson and now knows he can't shoulder everything by himself this has been one of the main issue in their relationship the fact that sometimes they try too much to protect each other and don't trust the other one enough.

Edit : I don't see Sasuke fighting alongside Naruto to defeat Madara, I think this fight is supposed to be the fight that will consolidate Naruto as the savior of the world.

Edited by Awes9, 04 December 2012 - 02:39 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:12 AM

Im sure that we'll get to see obito realizing what sakura means to naruto. But i personally doubt that we'll get to see that in the upcoming chapter. My opinion about this is that all about the parrallel will be resolved at the end of the fight when obito's nearly defeated.

For the next chapter i think all we will get is the alliance trying to make a plan to somehow defeat both of them.

Its just a theory, but is there someone who sees a possibiltiy (if madaras is the man who knows everything), that sasuke shows up and its like in the ova, that madara and obito watch the fight between naruto and sasuke. Then naruto redeems sasuke and he helps naruto to defeat madara?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:56 AM

Seeing an additional parallel made would be quite interesting and it would help to strengthen the relation that Sakura has to Naruto, but I'm not going to hold my breath on it. It's been mentioned already but Kishi doesn't always keep his promises with characters. Let's hope that it does happen though because if anyone deserves character development it's Sakura.





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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 4 2012, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im sure that we'll get to see obito realizing what sakura means to naruto. But i personally doubt that we'll get to see that in the upcoming chapter. My opinion about this is that all about the parrallel will be resolved at the end of the fight when obito's nearly defeated.

For the next chapter i think all we will get is the alliance trying to make a plan to somehow defeat both of them.

Its just a theory, but is there someone who sees a possibiltiy (if madaras is the man who knows everything), that sasuke shows up and its like in the ova, that madara and obito watch the fight between naruto and sasuke. Then naruto redeems sasuke and he helps naruto to defeat madara?


I dont want to sasuke show soon, i do think sasuke will be at obito's hideout.
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