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[Kster95]

We should be more excited about that article. I guess its just me. 

[Swagkura]

So Hinata being a homewrecker is a bigger possibility than Naruto and Sakura not being together in this film?

I don't think that's the case. Hinata's already portrayed as a sweet and innocent girl, so why would they show her trying to come in between Naruto & Sakura? And I'm sure Sakura already knows that Naruto's only interested in and only wants to be with her, so Sakura probably doesn't see the big deal of Hinata giving him a scarf, since Hinata doesn't offer any kind of competition towards her relationship with Naruto.

[Nefertieh]

Unless Kishi again, just makes a huge mistake, we're going to see Narusaku resolution, and the only end that stays true to the narrative and the relationship and tension he's been building between them for a decade is a NS end. Not concerned, I'd like to think that as careless as Kishi can be, as a writer and storyteller he wouldn't be so careless with the end of his story. 

We see Naruto with the red scarf. We see Hinata shopping with the red scarf. And we see the scarf torn to shreds as she falls. The scarf obviously symbolizes Kushina's thread of fate, and one of the main reasons NH and this movie don't frighten me is because Kishi wrote in Kushina and her desires to have Naruto find a woman like her halfway through the story.
The parallels Kishi very purposefully made between Sakura and Kushina are significant. Not only do they both have the angry inner person, treat the men the love the same way (rough on the outside to cover up concern on the inside, i.e. hitting Naruto before the hug) and a resemblance in personality, but very specific character plot points. Their specific bodily insecurities for example, Kushina fell in love with Minato because he liked what she had been teased about her whole life, her red hair (red thread of fate). Kishi wrote that as a direct reference and parallel to Sakura's forehead insecurity, which Naruto in Chp3 said was cute (disguised in Sasuke form). Those parallels are not wasted between two important characters in Naruto's life, especially with the "find one like" reference. 
The Kushina parallels, on top of Naruto and Sakura's overwhelmingly large development, their time together, the growth in their relationship, the indications of Sakura's feelings for Naruto pointed out by several characters Kishi uses as a mouthpiece (Kakashi, Sai, Yamato), the fact that vast majority of (non-cannon but interesting) movies and opening animations indicate romance between Naruto and Sakura, the fact that Kakashi (also used as a mouthpiece) told us that Sakura's love for Sasuke is now more a companionate love and desire to just bring a guy she loved back from the brink of self-destruction and the obvious anti-SS moments (which Kishi uses to only further provide opportunities for NS moments) in the very recent manga all point to a NS endgame. 
Not concerned.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt had he not decided to drag out the story with a two hour movie.

Even if, which I doubt, but even if NH happens, I will be at peace knowing that it's incredibly crappy writing.

Ha!

[Hallox93]

六道仙人 has confirmed "first" actually means "the beginning" of love.

 

But even if you are correct, and as you have suggested NS hasn't happened, this could be very easily referring to NS as well. I'm not concerned. Too much NS, not nearly enough NH development. Kishi has been working on the Last for two years, as long as the war arc, if he wanted a NH endgame, he would have been giving NH moment after moment and slamming away at NS. The girl tripped trying to get to Naruto and face-planted. Funny yes, but also symbolic. 

[Nefertieh]

Naruto and Sakura not yet being together makes NS really lame, IMO. Not sure I would like to still ship it if that's the case.
 
Not that I would start shipping NH.
 
Naruto's love life is maybe  taking a turn for the worst.

Well, I was shipping narusaku together far before I or anyone else considered then to be a likely endgame pairing. That was near the beginning of part II. They have chemistry, even emotionally-incompetent Sai wouldn't stop commenting about it. XD

[machi]

And Sasuke's fighting with Naruto again. Maybe he didn't confess to Sakura. :(

I agree with everything else except Naruto isn't fighting Sasuke, it's that Toneri or whatever his name is, the fodder villain

[Nefertieh]

I agree with everything else except Naruto isn't fighting Sasuke, it's that Toneri or whatever his name is, the fodder villain

In the trailer, you see him fight Sasuke.

[dejavu]

Soooo according to the movie summary/description there would be meteorites falling on earth...

c-could they be Rock-kun's friends?? Like when Hinata fell flat on the rocky ground.. rock-kun heard her wish and called forth his friends from afar.. meteorite-chan! And now they would be put into the movie.. This is so heartwarming! LOL kidding aside im so happy reading most of the posts here.. now i am excited to see this movie.. but not as excited as to see the next chapter though..


I hope we get to see more of Shino and Kiba in this movie that are properly drawn in the likeness of kishi's sketch.. they are afterall teamates of Hinata. They probably have a few mins of exposure only though..

[redragon88]

Maybe "first love / beginning of love" refers to that flashback when they were kids, were it all began, and how that memory is connected to events going on with the movie (Hinata's feelings and the scarf). I don't think it necessarily means that the climax of the movie is about someone's love starting.

[abloublou]

Soooo according to the movie summary/description there would be meteorites falling on earth...

c-could they be Rock-kun's friends?? Like when Hinata fell flat on the rocky ground.. rock-kun heard her wish and called forth his friends from afar.. meteorite-chan! And now they would be put into the movie.. This is so heartwarming! LOL kidding aside im so happy reading most of the posts here.. now i am excited to see this movie.. but not as excited as to see the next chapter though..


I hope we get to see more of Shino and Kiba in this movie that are properly drawn in the likeness of kishi's sketch.. they are afterall teamates of Hinata. They probably have a few mins of exposure only though..

They are so hot, it would be a shame if we didn't see them.

[sindy]

[I'm not really buying into the "this movie is about Hinata moving on from Naruto" theory. If that was the case, then Naruto and Sakura would share the spotlight, while Hinata's feelings would be sidecasted as a subplot that resolves by itself. 
Hinata growing out of her feelings simply doesn't warrant a movie of its own.]

 

I don't think it is about her moving on. I think it's closure for NH and a way to give limelight to that ship, even if isn't canon. I can say with confidence she won't get with the villain, that's ridiculous. Hinata will have her feelings understood and addressed by Naruto as they haven't been before. I think it's going to end with Hinata saying something about the torn scarf, and how no matter how hard she tried it just doesn't seem to be fated for Naruto to love her. Naruto will be saddened to see her obviously upset, but she'll smile and thank him for inspiring her, accrediting him for allowing her to become strong, thanking her for allowing her to adopt his ninja way. She'll become the Hyuuga clan leader and change the branch-head family tradition, becoming a strong and capable leader. While obviously still in that half-sad-but-happy-for-you look, she'll tell Naruto that even though her first love wasn't fated, He, as he never has done before, shouldn't give up on his. Naruto will thank her for reminding him, smile apologetically and run to find Sakura. 

 

for me that movie it is all about that childhood filler , nothing about her confession nor about holding hands .

 

i think it will closure  only that childhood filler , neither nh or ns will happen it will be open ending , with naruto except hinata's scarf as Apologies for him begin mean to her when he was child.

[Kster95]

Maybe "first love / beginning of love" refers to that flashback when they were kids, were it all began, and how that memory is connected to events going on with the movie (Hinata's feelings and the scarf). I don't think it necessarily means that the climax of the movie is about someone's love starting.

 

Good counter to that. A story of first love. Doesnt exactly mean new love will start. 

[finnishfagut]

In the trailer, you see him fight Sasuke.

You only see Sasuke standing. No-one fights him.

[Nefertieh]

Maybe "first love / beginning of love" refers to that flashback when they were kids, were it all began, and how that memory is connected to events going on with the movie (Hinata's feelings and the scarf). I don't think it necessarily means that the climax of the movie is about someone's love starting.

The translators have directly confirmed "the beginning of love" refers to NEW love.

[Hallox93]

I would give him the benefit of the doubt had he not decided to drag out the story with a two hour movie.


Ha!

 

You're assuming the movie is NH because of well crafted trailers and concern. It's very likely the movie is what the professor told his student on that page, a way to send off Hinata and have her character addressed and story-line fulfilled by having her own journey, at the same time making Sakura realize her jealousy (which she has shown in all moments Hinata has shown love for Naruto that she was present for). It's a common literary device, you have the main female character confused about her feelings for the main male, which are resolved when another woman shows credible interest. I think this movie will have Hinata play a larger role, have her feelings addressed, and her story resolved but I don't see NH happening. It just doesn't work, fit, or make sense with everything else Kishi has written and put out throughout Naruto. 

 

This movie will be about more than just Hinata's first love, it will also be about Naruto's. As you've suggested, if NS hasn't happened in the movie, then it wasn't resolved in the manga. Which means it has to be in the movie. Kishi didn't spend all that time developing characters, physically being exhausted drawing them, wrapping Kushina's character around Sakura and using her as a means of sending a NS undertone to just not resolve it.

 

Again, gotta leave the caveat that all this may be false if Kishi just got lazy and let SP dictate the end of his story, which even knowing Kishi, I don't think He'd do. The man has always been NS, its what he's given the most time to, follows in line with the literary style he's had all along, and is the only way to not break Sakura's development and Naruto's way of ninja. 

[Kster95]

What that poster confirms: 

 

Hinata's feelings have some secret to them 

 

NH has not happened

 

Hinata's feelings are subplot

 

Hyuga development and the world ending are main plot. 

[Hallox93]

The translators have directly confirmed "the beginning of love" refers to NEW love.

 

Which again, if NS hasn't happened can refer to the new, full-blown romance between Naruto and Sakura. It's open-ended for a reason. It's smart marketing. 

[Kster95]

The translators have directly confirmed "the beginning of love" refers to NEW love.

 

What did they say exactly. If its simply a story of beginning love then it works out that way too. 

[NSmakessense]

 

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I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.
 
I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his awesome post!
answer was.
"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You can’t put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. That’s only valid if you are writing a short film cause you don’t have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as you’re telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"
 
the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.
 
" It means he really didn’t think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didn’t mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you don’t, things like this happen. It’s like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if they’re right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and it’s ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and it’s clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, you’re telling me the writer of this story hasn’t been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. It’s bad writing"
 
I explain about Hinata’s love for Naruto. 
 
"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"
I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.
"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And it’s use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesn’t realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".
 
I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.
 
"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and he’s the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"
 
So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.
 
"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldn’t really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"
I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 
 
"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 
"No, sir"
"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"
"Course I will"
So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I don’t want to end up feeling disappointed.
 

 

This is why I refuse to believe in NH happening

[SuperChief]

I'm mad at Sakura rooting for her anyways ...I had something else in my mind

 

I wouldn't be. Sakura doesn't support NaruHina, so that makes it more likely she's supporting Hinata to get some closure.