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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:35 PM

 

Yup. This is the chapter where Naruto and Sasuke have "died," Sakura and Karin are desperately trying to revive them but conclude (in mirrored panels) that 'at this rate, they will die'...and Hinata has fallen face first after being tripped by a rock. It's all in Chapter 662, "The Real End."

 

So my thoughts are no matter what came afterward, this is how Kishimoto would have liked to have ended it. With NS, SK and Hinata/Rock-kun.

 

I also have a theory that Kishimoto had had his way, he would have left it as an open ending, like the novelization of the Gutsy Ninja. Where the intent is shown on the part of the characters, but he doesn't have to illustrate the main pairings getting together. Just gives the impression for the readers.

 

(And really, even the actual ending of the manga reflects Kishimoto's tendency to leave things vague, with so many confusing panels and open-ended situations.)

 

Anyway, I think it's significant that 662 was titled "The Real End." I think this is how he would have left it if he wasn't tied to a contract.

 

 

 

Yeah, if he was locked in a contract, and he knew the original direction of the story had been given up in favor of more money for the series...then I could see him trying to insert his opinion in some other, more creative ways. 

 

I think it's simply to fishy to think otherwise. I mean, why call it that title? 

 

 

Knowing the ending that was to come, I honestly think that this is the way Kishimoto would've liked it to go down, if he'd had his way.

 

And that's not to say that either Sakura or Karin would have been absolutely paired up with Naruto and Sasuke in the end. I still bet he would have left it open. But I think it would have ended with those parallels. And most importantly, Hinata wouldn't have been in the mix at all.

 

In "The Real End," Hinata is shown as the side character she's been all along in the manga. Not being able to do enough and falling dramatically short. I think the name of the chapter was intentional, for readers to find when they came back and reread the manga after bait-and-switch ending.

 

Tricksie, is it your purpose in life to write these great posts that really make buffoons like me have to think? lol You bring up a number of very interesting points...

 

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:41 PM

Shaka loved too.

 

who wouldn't love a badass character like Shaka?


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:43 PM

Yeah, if he was locked in a contract, and he knew the original direction of the story had been given up in favor of more money for the series...then I could see him trying to insert his opinion in some other, more creative ways. 
 
I think it's simply to fishy to think otherwise. I mean, why call it that title? 
 
 
Knowing the ending that was to come, I honestly think that this is the way Kishimoto would've liked it to go down, if he'd had his way.
 
And that's not to say that either Sakura or Karin would have been absolutely paired up with Naruto and Sasuke in the end. I still bet he would have left it open. But I think it would have ended with those parallels. And most importantly, Hinata wouldn't have been in the mix at all.
 
In "The Real End," Hinata is shown as the side character she's been all along in the manga. Not being able to do enough and falling dramatically short. I think the name of the chapter was intentional, for readers to find when they came back and reread the manga after bait-and-switch ending.

  
How is it that you keep managing to post these great posts? Too bad I have zero likes.. :cry: you probably took them all anyway

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:43 PM

OMFG!!!! SONIA!!! BIRILLO!!!! The boooring mecha '70s they aired! The terrible Galaxy Express 999 with Oliver Onions' opening! Ransie! Bia! MY CHILDHOOD!!!!! I still remember the lyrics of the openings  :argh: (quanto volevo andare all'angolo delle chiacchere... :umm:)

Mediaset is why Naruto is big with the newer generations tough! 

(I hated Holly&Benji  :hm:  but love Yu Yu and I'm a big big big fan of Saint Seiya  :love: ) Seriously, ask a woman our age (or a few years older) about Sailor Moon and mostly we still get starry eyed about it. (You boys and your 'this is a girl's cartoon I ain't gonna watch it'  :wot:)

 

 

 

YOU DID. :argh:  I loved it! (Still Seiya is the most boring character of the whole series  :ermm: )

 

 

 

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:45 PM

 

Yeah, if he was locked in a contract, and he knew the original direction of the story had been given up in favor of more money for the series...then I could see him trying to insert his opinion in some other, more creative ways. 

 

I think it's simply to fishy to think otherwise. I mean, why call it that title? 

 

 

Knowing the ending that was to come, I honestly think that this is the way Kishimoto would've liked it to go down, if he'd had his way.

 

And that's not to say that either Sakura or Karin would have been absolutely paired up with Naruto and Sasuke in the end. I still bet he would have left it open. But I think it would have ended with those parallels. And most importantly, Hinata wouldn't have been in the mix at all.

 

In "The Real End," Hinata is shown as the side character she's been all along in the manga. Not being able to do enough and falling dramatically short. I think the name of the chapter was intentional, for readers to find when they came back and reread the manga after bait-and-switch ending.

Maybe that's also why SP felt threatened by this part of the manga...and decided to put that stupid filler in the middle. 

 

guys, I'm starting to get addicted to TG... 


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:46 PM

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:47 PM

Maybe that's also why SP felt threatened by this part of the manga...and decided to put that stupid filler in the middle. 
 
guys, I'm starting to get addicted to TG...

Yes, young padawan...come over to the dark side...:chuckle:

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:48 PM

 

who wouldn't love a badass character like Shaka?

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:51 PM

Uniqlo is a brand for clothing line? (Just know it, thanks for tekopi) Why does Uniqlo make Naruto's OVA?

 

Anyone knows? I'm late here.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:55 PM

Uniqlo is a brand for clothing line? (Just know it, thanks for tekopi) Why does Uniqlo make Naruto's OVA?

 

Anyone knows? I'm late here.

Besides of troll us I think was 10 years of anyversary.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:02 PM

Yes, young padawan...come over to the dark side... :chuckle:

*follows the "dark" light*...wait... I hope you have cookies there  :hm:


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:10 PM

@Liu bie

OMG! I love that OVA. The animation is great. And if I'm not mistaken there are no dialogue, right? But why need dialogue if the story line itself is beautiful  :love:

 

And this "tickets got sold out in US", I have a question for everyone:

 

In what cinema they're showing the last? Is it a big cinema? And by saying big, I mean a cinema company that you can find everywhere and for everyone (from low to high economy), not the premium ones (cinema with high price tickets and -maybe- only in big cities.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:11 PM

http://absolueprick....373584/narusaku

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:11 PM

I'm talking about in general and you should know by now that there's no information regarding the cost for The Last

Here's an article explaining profits for a movie http://io9.com/57473...o-be-profitable

 

The thing is, The Last's production and promotional budgets aren't on the same level as the Chronicles of Narnia or Terminator. Making a return on those two respective investments so that the final estimates are in the positive shouldn't be as difficult when the ideal profit return is less than 150 million Yen away from being realised. Even a small percentage return in the international releases will garner additional profit that wasn't originally there for Pierrot, and with a potential market of 850,000,000 people altogether, I would surmise that any foreseen costs like tariffs, distribution, and promotion will have been accounted for via theatrical ticket sales. 

 

As I already said, The Last's production value can't be much that much greater than the likes of RtN. An estimate of $10 million seems considerable for a movie franchise with such lacklustre standards as Pierrot's Naruto. Even if the promotional costs were to run as high as 45-50% of said production value, it's still technically a net profit, albeit small for the time being. 


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:14 PM

one idiot less in the NS world.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:16 PM

Why is it Sakura's fault? This is all Kishi's fault plain and simple. What an idiot.


 


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:17 PM

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:18 PM

WTF?!?

OHHH How I hate that people always, always, ALWAYS blame Sakura for everything.  :hm:

Naruto liked her only for rivalry? Well it's clearly HER fault!. :zaru:  I hate this so so so so much.

 

What makes me mad is not that NS is not canon, but the fact that the Last asspull and 700 rewrote Naruto's bonds, 1st friend? Hinata! 1st love? Hinata! OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS HINATA! And who cares about Sasuke and Sakura no? 

Then it's always logically Sakura's fault. 

 

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:18 PM

Que puedo decir la desesperacion.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:19 PM

one idiot less in the NS world.


Why is it Sakura's fault? This is all Kishi's fault plain and simple. What an idiot.


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