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[SuperChief]

Sakura's "increased womanhood" has an effect on Naruto because he's hitting that.

[Kster95]

Nowhere does it say her feelings went nowhere for two years. How did you come to that conclusion? She's just in still in Naruto's shadow. It's no different from the rest of her life.
 

 

"Hinata's feelings are secret" 

"Her feelings have yet to reach him - where are these hidden feelings headed towards?" 

 

Completely opposite of what the poster says. 

 

Its been two years and NH still didnt happen. 

[Harbour]

In before Hinata will fly on the Moon with her beloved Toneri to guard the Gedo Mazo.

That the fate of Hyuuga clan.

[abloublou]

 

"Hinata's feelings are secret" 

"Her feelings have yet to reach him - where are these hidden feelings headed towards?" 

 

Completely opposite of what the poster says. 

 

Its been two years and NH still didnt happen. 

 She already confessed in front of everyone. What is secret about it ?

Or is it about something else ?

[Hallox93]

Please, I would love nothing more than if someone could reassure my that my fears are misguided with some good, convincing argument.

Everything I've said so far is based on facts or analysing facts. I was one of the few people trying to calm other people down in 615, 469, and 693 because people thought narusaku was dead.

 

The only reason you should be nervous is if Kishi makes a huge mistake, which is what NH would be. But stay calm, this man has clearly shipped NS from the start, giving them the most development together, to closest relationship in the story (rivaled only by Sasuke and Naruto, which I'd say is still less) and constantly bringing up Sakura's possible feelings for Naruto through several other characters. This man made RtN, an hour and a half kushina parallel and NS fest. While RtN is not completely canon, It's clear where his mind is on those two characters relationships. So only if Kishi got tired and didn't know to end and was careless enough to let SP completely dictate the ending of HIS story, which I'm sure he wouldn't, NS is endgame.

NH cannot hand a candle. We should know when we read the final on thursday. I personally believe the movie is an explanation to NH fans why it didn't happen and a way to give their ship some limelight and address before the story closes out. 

Just looking at the literary style, and the characters personality and development is enough to convince me that the only real way to end the story and stay true to the narrative is a NS endgame. Go read Slemtrex's Narusaku build up and go through all those moments. Made me regain so much confidence. There is plenty of recent evidence, nothing has swayed NS.

 

[abloublou]

In before Hinata will fly on the Moon with her beloved Toneri to guard the Gedo Mazo.

That the fate of Hyuuga clan.

He's a better love interest to her than Naruto.

 

At least he notices her existence and shows interest in her.

 

And he's nice to look at with a nice VA.

Edited by abloublou, 02 November 2014 - 12:29 PM.

[Kster95]

 She already confessed in front of everyone. What is secret about it ?

Or is it about something else ?

 

Oh yeah that changes everything. See there is so much more to this then we know. All we know is Hinata has a secret about her feelings that isnt she loves Naruto and NH hasnt happened for 2 years. 

Edited by Kster95, 02 November 2014 - 12:31 PM.

[Hallox93]

The way Naruto never answered her confession was cringy as hell, but it's too late to make up for that. Naruto already looks like an uncaring douche. (for the sake of not crushing the NH fanbase too early , but still...)

 

That is a good point. And Naruto addressing it in the manga wouldn't do either, seeing as 699 is right after the Sasuke battle and 700 is an epilogue beyond The Last. And even though it's not romantic, it's clear that Naruto cares about her as a person in the manga. I agree though, interested to see an explanation as to what has happened to make hinata want to confess...again... after two years and why it hasn't been addressed already. Maybe it had and Naruto and Sakura has already become a thing and this is Hinata's last stand effort. who knows. just excited to find out and not really concerned. Even if NH happens, which I don't think Kishi is so careless with his characters, I'll have some measure of peace knowing that it was a last minute, got tired and didn't know how to end it, horribly written and contradictory to his own story waste of an amazingly built relationship between Naruto and Sakura, the two most human and strong characters. 

[Namikaze Sakura]

Sorry it's quite tiring to see Hinata this, Hinata that on every page and every post (well including this) 
Thank you for the information with regards to the movie, and I thoroughly enjoyed every positive analysis in here! Yeah NS is most of the time in a rollercoaster ride. I actually enjoyed lurking, reading your posts guys but recently, I can definitely feel how this made NS fans down, most especially when the series is nearing its end. I couldn't compare the reactions from RtN to this one; I missed that. The trailers or other promotional stuff shouldn't really bother me but its exaggeration, (mis)interpretation and over the top presumption made by fans making them give up, and worst, jump to another ship surely does bother me. It couldn't be helped maybe. 

 

So the main villain (?) got puppets as his subordinates or something, like Edo-tensei ones?
I wonder too, why a Hyuuga. Is it a make up for not being properly treated (recognized) in the last battle? Haha. Why Hinata? Maybe she already got the leadership of her clan? Or would also that mean she got the strongest (?????) Byakugan at that timeline. There are lots of details to look forward to. And I will really, really hope there is more to this movie that I should be watching out for. The ending of the manga's given, for sure.

 

Edited by Namikaze Sakura, 03 November 2014 - 04:32 AM.

[NSmakessense]

Please, I would love nothing more than if someone could reassure my that my fears are misguided with some good, convincing argument.

Everything I've said so far is based on facts or analysing facts. I was one of the few people trying to calm other people down in 615, 469, and 693 because people thought narusaku was dead.

 

The only reason you should be nervous is if Kishi makes a huge mistake, which is what NH would be. But stay calm, this man has clearly shipped NS from the start, giving them the most development together, to closest relationship in the story (rivaled only by Sasuke and Naruto, which I'd say is still less) and constantly bringing up Sakura's possible feelings for Naruto through several other characters. This man made RtN, an hour and a half kushina parallel and NS fest. While RtN is not completely canon, It's clear where his mind is on those two characters relationships. So only if Kishi got tired and didn't know to end and was careless enough to let SP completely dictate the ending of HIS story, which I'm sure he wouldn't, NS is endgame.

NH cannot hand a candle. We should know when we read the final on thursday. I personally believe the movie is an explanation to NH fans why it didn't happen and a way to give their ship some limelight and address before the story closes out. 

Just looking at the literary style, and the characters personality and development is enough to convince me that the only real way to end the story and stay true to the narrative is a NS endgame. Go read Slemtrex's Narusaku build up and go through all those moments. Made me regain so much confidence. There is plenty of recent evidence, nothing has swayed NS.

 

 

I'm glad I skipped all the pages to get the opportunity to read this comment. Here, accept this like please.

[Kster95]

I am so happy about that poster. It really breathe life into this movie. Hinata's feeling being subplot with the main plot being developing the Hyuga clan and the world ending. 

Edited by Kster95, 02 November 2014 - 12:40 PM.

[Hallox93]

He's a better love interest to her than Naruto.

 

At least he notices her existence and shows interest in her.

 

And he's nice to look at with a nice VA.

 

We all know Naruto cares for Hinata as a person. I too am curious why they say it's secret when the whole world knows it's not, the girl chose to most ridiculous time and place to announce it to the world. But Naruto has a good heart and doesn't ignore people (on purpose). He's thanked her plenty of times for sticking up for him and being at his side. To me, that's satisfying enough of an address of her feelings. Not really his responsibility to address the love of a woman who barely knows him and has been in the shadows the entire narrative, not to mention it would be a bit awkward. That's why I think this movie he's going to realize that he never answered her, and in travelling with her and seeing her strength in saving her sister, will be proud of her and thank her, but won't reciprocate those feelings. 

[abloublou]

I am so happy about that poster. It really breathe life into this movie. Hinata's feeling being subplot with the main plot being developing the Hyuga clan and the world ending. 

What poster ?

[Kster95]

Hanbi will be kidnapped, brainwashed and will be forced to fight Hinata. Pretty much the only fight I would be excited to see Hinata in. Its will kinda be a redo of Neji and hinata's fight in part 1. 

[Kster95]

What poster ?

 

The one just posted about Hinata's feelings. 

[Nefertieh]

 
"Hinata's feelings are secret" 

"Her feelings have yet to reach him - where are these hidden feelings headed towards?" 
 
Completely opposite of what the poster says. 
 
Its been two years and NH still didnt happen. 

Narusaku didn't happen either.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Narusaku didn't happen either.

How did you know that from these sentences about Hinata?

[StriderC]

I basically discussed something similar to this on the podcast and even on the forum. As a writer my self who also took a lot of courses in writing and reading, I have to say that this teacher knows their stuff. Someone even I have forgotten myself. If NH were to become canon, then Kishimoto is a terrible writer. So have so few moment and to never look upon them at all really shows that Kishimoto is a poor writer. Since stories are not like real life, everything in the story needs to be made clear and concise. Even if things are to remain a mystery until the end, you still have to set things up in a way that leads to the final conclusion. You can't just randomly make something occur just to suit a change of heart.
I admit I gain some doubt over this stuff, but it wasn't because of lost of faith, but rather I was afraid of NH being asspulled into canon and ruining the story completely. So we all have our issues with the story, but I have been okay with most of it. Yeah stuff I hated. Others I loved, but I still loved the story as a whole despite it's flaws. Making NH canon when no development occurred before would have just ruined it for me entirely. A step too far. This is especially true when you do this in a movie that is purely optional.

Exactly. Had it been better developed then I wouldn't care if NH happened but that little development it got during the war isn't gonna cut if for me. I felt like Kishi was side stepping a bit when it came to NS during the war. Sure I pretty much looked past it but it was like he was trying to milk pairings. Especially SS and NH. I also felt like he didnt so as much as he could have in certain situations involving both Narito and Sakura. For instance, when Naruto was on the verge of dying. I felt like some of her feelings should have came into realization. Hell a sequence of flashbacks would have been perfect. With NS there has to be consistence because of the way it was built. That's just the way it is.

[Kster95]

Narusaku didn't happen either.

 

You dont know that though. 

[StriderC]

I'm not really buying into the "this movie is about Hinata moving on from Naruto" theory. If that was the case, then Naruto and Sakura would share the spotlight, while Hinata's feelings would be sidecasted as a subplot that resolves by itself.
Hinata growing out of her feelings simply doesn't warrant a movie of its own.

Well she got a whole episode with beautiful animation dedicated to her feelings and an extended fight scene. That wasn't warranted but they went all out anyway.