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[Nefertieh]

My conclusion is with naruto sakura can be herself, with sasuke she has to become someome else that she's not.

Definitely. The aforementioned fan told me she thought Sakura was more "behaved" around Sasuke so she should end up with him. I guess while she's at it, she should probably go back into the kitchen, hm?

[TouKen4Life3g]

About why not put the opportunity in other movies, let's face it, Kishi didn't put any real focus on anyone but Naruto with Sasuke. Looking back again, it was always between Naruto and Sasuke. Sure, we have Team Seven reunion, but that because those characters need to see for themselves to see where is Sasuke going to. Only Naruto maintains his feelings and nothing has changed for Naruto, only more mature. Remember, he is the main character and we are "told" to hope for the best for him to succeed anything that is considered "impossible". Saving a world criminal from the darkness and winning your love interest's heart who belongs to another seem impossible to people's eyes, but Naruto is one step closer to achieve it. So ask yourself, do you really think Naruto will give up for anything? Anything?

Now, people can shut their mouths for thinking Naruto is moving on after the movie presented it like 3 times by Kishimoto himself. What's the point to keep his love mentioned or reminded to us if he's going to move on? Could have been the best time to say, "No, there's another girl I actually like. It's just....not herself." alas, Hinata. So yeah, clearly Kishi wants us to hope for Naruto to be with Sakura. And we're not alone.

[Don-kun]

No, the part where he said he would still be happy if she didn't chose him in the end. Naruto usually never gives up, to say that he will bothers me a bit.

Yes but that doesn't sound like giving up it sounded like accepting her choice but will always keep loving her, that is not good for NH they want Naruto to forget Sakura and fall completely in love with Hinata, but she will always be the backup girl in Naruto eyes since, he will never love her more than how he loves Sakura. In that episode Naruto is speaking like a regular person, but since we the viewers know he is the main character he will get what he really wish for and that is for Sakura to love him back. In addition the Anime Team want us to support Naruto, just look on the way the treated Hinata's love in ep 232 like on obsession and present Naruto's love as an admirable and beautiful thing a boy will say about a girl he really love and wish nothing but the best for her.

My comment was directed at the "why don't they make a movie about sasusaku/ naruhina?" Obviously they do take some liberties with canon characters (especially for Hinata, giving her new techniques and so forth) but they certainly can't make a whole movie on it. It does tend to cause holes in the canon -- like, why would Hinata say that she wanted to hold Naruto's hand so recently in the manga, as if she's never done so before, when she did in the fillers?

Think about his question a little he says Kishimoto had the chance, Kishimoto the creator and owner or of Naruto the original series who can do what ever he pleases, had the chance to make the movie NH and SS but he didn'd then he say is just like the filler episode where Naruto said that he still has feeling for Sakura giving us the understanding that Kishi is perhaps heading towards NS.

[Malverstation]

While I do give the filler points for making Naruto sound like a caring human being as opposed to a creepy stalker, I can't imagine him saying he would give up on anything.

"Even if I don't get to be Hokage one day, I'll be happy."
"Even if I won't keep my promise of a lifetime, I'll be happy."

I don't know. Maybe it was because a naruhina fan told me a few years ago that she thought Naruto would just give up on Sakura one day. I don't think any pairings will become inevitably canon, but I doubt it would be because Sakura decided to get hitched to someone else.

I can agree and disagree. Though, it is his goal and he doesn't give up on things he is dedicated to, I think Naruto has grown to realize that he can't have everything he wants. As a story and fictional character, we want him to have everything and it makes a perfect ending. He said it himself: "how can I become hokage if I can't even save a friend". He needs that value to be able to save and end things well with Sasuke to achieve another goal. What if he never saves Sasuke? Would he ever be valuable enough to become hokage? I don't know. I personally don't think Naruto's given up on Sakura, he is just waiting for things to unfold and put his energy in more serious situations to keep everyone safe.

What I am just confused on are other aspects of things regarding simular situations but this is not the appropriate thread for that. :3

Edited by Malverstation, 14 August 2012 - 02:52 PM.

[ciardha]

What's wonderful about the ending of the movie is that Sakura is so open about being in a relationship with Naruto that when Naruto asks for another date, she teases in front of her parents that she and Naruto had just been on the longest dste ever and in the novel it makes it clear Naruto's reaction sentence "That was a date?!" was him being playful back by exaggerating his reaction to silly proportions.

Kishimoto is telling viewers with that narusaku isn't something in the future, it's already there.

And as well, he kills off Sasusaku by showing viewers that even if Sasuke had been a lady charmer it would have had zero effect on her far more intense bond with Naruto. In the movie, after Sasuke gives her the rose but before she sees him with other girls, Sakura is feeling lonely and goes to find and talk to Naruto. It's on her way to talk to Naruto that she sees Sasuke and the other girls.

Edited by ciardha, 14 August 2012 - 03:10 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I can agree and disagree. Though, it is his goal and he doesn't give up on things he is dedicated to, I think Naruto has grown to realize that he can't have everything he wants. As a story and fictional character, we want him to have everything and it makes a perfect ending. He said it himself: "how can I become hokage if I can't even save a friend". He needs that value to be able to save and end things well with Sasuke to achieve another goal. What if he never saves Sasuke? Would he ever be valuable enough to become hokage? I don't know.

What I am just confused on are other aspects of things regarding simular situations but this is not the appropriate thread for that. :3

See, stuff like that we don't want the main character, Naruto, to lose. We want him to succeed. I remember when the village celebrated that Naruto is the hero of Konoha. That chapter made me so happy for many reasons. He is the hero, he becomes a role model for kids, and he even got a hug from his love interest, Sakura, in which a lot of people saw it romantic (boys were blushing shocked, girls find it very cute). It was a great chapter, let alone episode. It was something that I invested my time to watch him succeed and it was worth it. Now, he got to deal with the situation with his team. He wants to save Sasuke from the darkness and he will protect Sakura along the way. Romance always come in the end or close to the end, if it's something that I learned from many anime/manga, especially shounen.

In short, we not supposed to give up on Naruto. We will continue to support him until his dreams, wishes, and everything that he wants, become true. Heck, even Kishi said it in the autographed photo just now. Never give up.

[Nefertieh]

Yes but that doesn't sound like giving up it sounded like accepting her choice but will always keep loving her, that is not good for NH they want Naruto to forget Sakura and fall completely in love with Hinata, but she will always be the backup girl in Naruto eyes since, he will never love her more than how he loves Sakura. In that episode Naruto is speaking like a regular person, but since we the viewers know he is the main character he will get what he really wish for and that is for Sakura to love him back. In addition the Anime Team want us to support Naruto, just look on the way the treated Hinata's love in ep 232 like on obsession and present Naruto's love as an admirable and beautiful thing a boy will say about a girl he really love and wish nothing but the best for her.

I think we have different definitions of "giving up." If you mean he would always love her, then no, the anime team didn't make it sound like he was happy to give up. But I meant "giving up" as in, content with not achieving his goal.

Think about his question a little he says Kishimoto had the chance, Kishimoto the creator and owner or of Naruto the original series who can do what ever he pleases, had the chance to make the movie NH and SS but he didn'd then he say is just like the filler episode where Naruto said that he still has feeling for Sakura giving us the understanding that Kishi is perhaps heading towards NS.

I thought the question was directed at the previous movies. Refer to the quote: "Noticed that all the movies, there were room for SasuSaku and NaruHina, yet they didn't take the opportunity, or rather, they didn't want to."

I can't imagine how he could've developed sasusaku without Sasuke being out of character. I mean, I try to be open-minded about these things. >_> I actually think Sasuke's closest 'soulmate' would be Naruto, even though I don't ship yaoi. :C

I can agree and disagree. Though, it is his goal and he doesn't give up on things he is dedicated to, I think Naruto has grown to realize that he can't have everything he wants. As a story and fictional character, we want him to have everything and it makes a perfect ending. He said it himself: "how can I become hokage if I can't even save a friend". He needs that value to be able to save and end things well with Sasuke to achieve another goal. What if he never saves Sasuke? Would he ever be valuable enough to become hokage? I don't know. I personally don't think Naruto's given up on Sakura, he is just waiting for things to unfold and put his energy in more serious situations to keep everyone safe.

What I am just confused on are other aspects of things regarding simular situations but this is not the appropriate thread for that. :3

I think that would be an interesting development, especially considering how Itachi gave a speech about how someone doesn't become Hokage to be acknowledged but the other way around. However I think that theme was already covered earlier in part I -- I remember it well because it was so similar to what Tidus said in FFX. xD Something about how adults understand you can't have everything in life, a fact which Naruto retorts, and again reinforces his idealism and heroism.

The quote you have there -- maybe he's just prioritizing things?

Edited by Nefertieh, 14 August 2012 - 03:07 PM.

[Malverstation]

See, stuff like that we don't want the main character, Naruto, to lose. We want him to succeed. I remember when the village celebrated that Naruto is the hero of Konoha. That chapter made me so happy for many reasons. He is the hero, he becomes a role model for kids, and he even got a hug from his love interest, Sakura, in which a lot of people saw it romantic (boys were blushing shocked, girls find it very cute). It was a great chapter, let alone episode. It was something that I invested my time to watch him succeed and it was worth it. Now, he got to deal with the situation with his team. He wants to save Sasuke from the darkness and he will protect Sakura along the way. Romance always come in the end or close to the end, if it's something that I learned from many anime/manga, especially shounen.

In short, we not supposed to give up on Naruto. We will continue to support him until his dreams, wishes, and everything that he wants, become true. Heck, even Kishi said it in the autographed photo just now. Never give up.

And isn't this what Kishimoto was telling us to do with that Naruto/Manma picture? I do believe he will get everything in the end. Accomplish everything Jiraiya couldn't...including the girl.

Edited by Malverstation, 14 August 2012 - 03:04 PM.

[Don-kun]

About why not put the opportunity in other movies, let's face it, Kishi didn't put any real focus on anyone but Naruto with Sasuke. Looking back again, it was always between Naruto and Sasuke. Sure, we have Team Seven reunion, but that because those characters need to see for themselves to see where is Sasuke going to. Only Naruto maintains his feelings and nothing has changed for Naruto, only more mature. Remember, he is the main character and we are "told" to hope for the best for him to succeed anything that is considered "impossible". Saving a world criminal from the darkness and winning your love interest's heart who belongs to another seem impossible to people's eyes, but Naruto is one step closer to achieve it. So ask yourself, do you really think Naruto will give up for anything? Anything?

Now, people can shut their mouths for thinking Naruto is moving on after the movie presented it like 3 times by Kishimoto himself. What's the point to keep his love mentioned or reminded to us if he's going to move on? Could have been the best time to say, "No, there's another girl I actually like. It's just....not herself." alas, Hinata. So yeah, clearly Kishi wants us to hope for Naruto to be with Sakura. And we're not alone.

This is how I saw it too, Kishi and the Animators want us to support Naruto, Kishi wants us to think that Naruto will save a friend, managed to become Hokage and why not achieve his dream of Sakura to loving him one day. other wise why keep him wishing for her love.

And for the movie, the day I saw that design where Naruto was smiling while looking at Sakura design. I knew Kishi will focus on Naruto's feelings for her on this movie. So that raise the question again why keep Naruto openly in love with Sakura at this stage?

[TouKen4Life3g]

And isn't this what Kishimoto was telling us to do with that Naruto/Manma picture? I do believe he will get everything in the end. Accomplish everything Jiraiya couldn't...including the girl.

Exactly!

The reason why he had Jiraiya's flashbacking to all the failure he has was to address us audience that he's passing down to Naruto because he saw him as himself, only this time, he will succeed everything. Jiraiya was a faliure as much as I hate to say it, because all of the hardship that happens in his life. Now, he knows that Naruto will surpass him in every ways, which is why he said his chapter has ended and Naruto's story has begun. That's symbolic right there. Imagine if Naruto didn't do saving his best friend and win his love interest's love. What was the point of Jiraiya's faith on Naruto? It will come off bad and not a good message to us. Kishi is all about sending messages. So far, it's been on his favor. We just have to keep waiting for Naruto to overcome everything.

@NS means logic: I agree. Naruto will always love her, no matter what. Naruto just needs to tell her himself to show Sakura how serious Naruto is with her. For now, I can see Naruto's confession to start off comedy, like Naruto will struggle a little to confess and before she leaves, Naruto will scream out and tell her to be with him. Think as FMA. It seems like him too. He really feels flustered when his love comes to topic.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 14 August 2012 - 03:18 PM.

[Living Lavish]

No, the part where he said he would still be happy if she didn't chose him in the end. Naruto usually never gives up, to say that he will bothers me a bit.

He never said he would be happy. Naruto would be in pain, but he said he be happy FOR HER even if she didn't choose him because he supports her happiness.

edit: ok just saw you're reply to Ns Means lol

Edited by Living Lavish, 14 August 2012 - 03:22 PM.

[Transformers03]

What's wonderful about the ending of the movie is that Sakura is so open about being in a relationship with Naruto that when Naruto asks for another date, she teases in front of her parents that she and Naruto had just been on the longest dste ever and in the novel it makes it clear Naruto's reaction sentence "That was a date?!" was him being playful back by exaggerating his reaction to silly proportions.

Kishimoto is telling viewers with that narusaku isn't something in the future, it's already there.

And as well, he kills off Sasusaku by showing viewers that even if Sasuke had been a lady charmer it would have had zero effect on her far more intense bond with Naruto. In the movie, after Sasuke gives her the rose but before she sees him with other girls, Sakura is feeling lonely and goes to find and talk to Naruto. It's on her way to talk to Naruto that she sees Sasuke and the other girls.

Heh, I was actually thinking of something similar, that they kind of act little be too.........couple-ish. You don't just take a normal friend out on a 'date', nor don't you joke about it with them later. I also similar feeling at the beginning of the summit arc, maybe around the time when she hugged him. In fact, I think it is around the time when I found out she confessed to him, that ask myself, "Wait, I thought you guys were already sort of together." Why, because they already seemed like a couple to me.

[TouKen4Life3g]

B-rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1503

Hm, is this what dovah saw? Especially when he said that Sakura blush a little when Naruto saves her. Not to mention that smile when he saves her. That genuine smile.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 14 August 2012 - 05:16 PM.

[redragon88]

B-rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1503

Hm, is this what dovah saw? Especially when he said that Sakura blush a little when Naruto saves her.

Hey ramenamitsu, if you ever find the time to continue with the translations I know a lot of people would appreciate it. Only if you are free to work on it of course.

[merryGOflava]

B-rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1503

Hm, is this what dovah saw? Especially when he said that Sakura blush a little when Naruto saves her. Not to mention that smile when he saves her. That genuine smile.

something about naruto and sakura are the hero and heroine.....but i cant translate the kanji >:U

it feels like sakura's popularity went up XD huh?

[Codus N]

B-rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1503

Hm, is this what dovah saw? Especially when he said that Sakura blush a little when Naruto saves her. Not to mention that smile when he saves her. That genuine smile.

Of all the fanarts I've seen, this person has the best art style and is only second to LadyGT in my book.

[ciardha]

something about naruto and sakura are the hero and heroine.....but i cant translate the kanji >:U

it feels like sakura's popularity went up XD huh?

She's already way more popular in Japan than she is elsewhere, but it may jump up her popularity in Japan even moreso which is great by me. She always polls either as the top or at minimum the second most popular female character in even Japan's Jump Naruto reader polls. Plus look at a much larger segment of Japanese Naruto fandom- the listing of favorite Naruto pairings online, in the hetro and yuri ones look at how many of the top ones include Sakura...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Of all the fanarts I've seen, this person has the best art style and is only second to LadyGT in my book.

This.

Which reminds me, the look when she is watching Naruto vs. Menma in Kyuubi match is really cute. Something about it makes me like her much more. Dammit, Kishi.

[Transformers03]

This.

Which reminds me, the look when she is watching Naruto vs. Menma in Kyuubi match is really cute. Something about it makes me like her much more. Dammit, Kishi.

I know.
Dammit, Kishi, why don't you have Sakura more in the manga?

[merryGOflava]

im so happy the only princess in the movie was sakura T^T i was getting tried of all these filler movie chicks!