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#541 ShippudenGirl

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Jun 17 2010, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What Sai says in the english version is no different than the onemanga version. Nothing new was revealed. He still says that Sakura is killing Sasuke because she loves him. That love has to be explained, but most likely it is meant as romantic love. The only difference being the recap, which most likely isn't canon anyways :/ It's about equivalent to the action text put on the chapters at the start and at the end, which is not actually written by kishimoto. So nothing was proven...



QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 17 2010, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dry.gif Yeap. We're just back where we started.


I tried TT^TT ... Uhmm.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 16 2010, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tried TT^TT ... Uhmm.

Well we just have to wait for more moments in the manga XD That's pretty much all we can do at this point...

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:20 AM

someone is touchy

vise versa that you get the same you know that

1. and by what your saying is once your in love you never fall out?

2.you ignore sakura loves naruto as well as stated in manga

3. i will not denie sakura has some remains of feelings for sasuke but in reality its based on fake. but sasuke is also going to kill everyone! her as well

4. sakura was also killing sasuke for WHO? naruto thats right says alot.

now as my opin ns is cannon

Edited by New Revolution, 17 June 2010 - 12:22 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:27 AM

It's obvious that Sakura loves Naruto romantically does she loves Sasuke yes of course but it's not love romantically. She loves him as a friend, teammate as the person who was her first crush that's it. Sai wasn't being specific when he said she "loves" Sasuke the fact that everything she has done was for Naruto's sake than Sasuke's proves my point that she has romantic feelings for Naruto and she feels friendship of her teammate bond for Sasuke period.

-When Sai told her that Naruto loves her she cried, she felt hurt, she was filled with guilt.

-She immediately made a decision to lift the burden of the promise from Naruto and protect him from Sasuke because he's chasing him wanting to bring him back to Konoha.

-She didn't argued with Shikamaru's decision about killing Sasuke she didn't got angry or said I won't let you guys kill Sasuke-kun.

-She was willing to kill Sasuke for Naruto's safety to redeem herlself to him, for always relying on him, for have fallen in love with Sasuke (in past tense).

If you read those points it doesn't says a word about Sakura doing in it for Sasuke's sake, everything she did was for Naruto she quickly took action to relealse Naruto from the promise so he didn't suffer anymore. This proves she loves Naruto romantically, more than Sasuke obviously.

Edited by Gravenimage, 17 June 2010 - 12:32 AM.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jun 17 2010, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
someone is touchy

vise versa that you get the same you know that

1. and by what your saying is once your in love you never fall out?

2.you ignore sakura loves naruto as well as stated in manga

3. i will not denie sakura has some remains of feelings for sasuke but in reality its based on fake. but sasuke is also going to kill everyone! her as well

4. sakura was also killing sasuke for WHO? naruto thats right says alot.

now as my opin ns is cannon


Well, I'm not exactly gonna call them canon until - you know, its official XD but it is obvious Goku-kun - er, I mean Revolution-kun!

And wow... You know how I took pics with the camera? XD My parents just came home with a new giant HP printer, woo! =D

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 17 June 2010 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:33 AM

Come on guys we can all agree that the only reason Sakura has lingering feelings for Sasuke is based on what Naruto said to her when he was henged into Sasuke, besides once that clears up, I'm sure Sakura will get rid of any lingering feelings for him.

Edited by FullMetalMac, 17 June 2010 - 12:44 AM.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jun 16 2010, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
someone is touchy

Eh? XD Not touchy. It just seems so blatantly obvious to me~

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1. and by what your saying is once your in love you never fall out?

Never said that.

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2.you ignore sakura loves naruto as well as stated in manga

Why don't you read my previous posts about Sakura also loving Naruto?

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3. i will not denie sakura has some remains of feelings for sasuke but in reality its based on fake. but sasuke is also going to kill everyone! her as well

Then don't get defensive when I said the exact same thing. Sakura has some form of love for Sasuke.

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4. sakura was also killing sasuke for WHO? naruto thats right says alot.

For Sasuke himself, for Konoha, for Naruto. She has more than one reason for it. But, the reason Sai gives is because she loves Sasuke kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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now as my opin ns is cannon

Kay.

Edited by Miss Soupy, 17 June 2010 - 12:36 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:36 AM

QUOTE (FullMetalMac @ Jun 16 2010, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Come on guys we can all agree that the only reason Sakura has lingering feelings for Sasuke is based on what Naruto said to her when he was henged into Sasuke, besides once that clears up, I'm sure Sakura will get rid of any lingering feels for him.


Yes I agree about that she may still have some small lingering feelings for Sasuke because of the bench scene and that's exactly why Kishi is fnally going to solve that scene in future chapters.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 17 2010, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I'm not exactly gonna call them canon until - you know, its official XD but it is obvious Goku-kun - er, I mean Revolution-kun!

And wow... You know how I took pics with the camera? XD My parents just came home with a new giant HP printer, woo! =D

for once im sticking to my guns on thisxD goku-kun is fine
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Miss Soupy@ i guss we can agree on certain things so agree to disagree k

i wasn't being defensive jest like you stateing my opin

Edited by New Revolution, 17 June 2010 - 12:47 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 17 2010, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes I agree about that she may still have some small lingering feelings for Sasuke because of the bench scene and that's exactly why Kishi is fnally going to solve that scene in future chapters.


Yep, I agree that that's the scene that brings Sakura the image of Sasuke - though it is completely wrong, Kishimoto should and probably will give it a conclusion.

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Ahaha XD Okay!

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 17 June 2010 - 12:41 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:34 AM

Just because 474 original hasn't changed, won't mean anything changing the way it is now. still have killing attempts, Epic Save by Naruto and Kushina.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:02 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 17 2010, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just because 474 original hasn't changed, won't mean anything changing the way it is now. still have killing attempts, Epic Save by Naruto and Kushina.

no it depends on the persons pov 474 to you maybe not but to some us yes it does change things.

becides that i agree sleep.gif

Edited by New Revolution, 17 June 2010 - 04:03 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 05:07 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 16 2010, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's obvious that Sakura loves Naruto romantically does she loves Sasuke yes of course but it's not love romantically. She loves him as a friend, teammate as the person who was her first crush that's it. Sai wasn't being specific when he said she "loves" Sasuke the fact that everything she has done was for Naruto's sake than Sasuke's proves my point that she has romantic feelings for Naruto and she feels friendship of her teammate bond for Sasuke period.

-When Sai told her that Naruto loves her she cried, she felt hurt, she was filled with guilt.

-She immediately made a decision to lift the burden of the promise from Naruto and protect him from Sasuke because he's chasing him wanting to bring him back to Konoha.

-She didn't argued with Shikamaru's decision about killing Sasuke she didn't got angry or said I won't let you guys kill Sasuke-kun.

-She was willing to kill Sasuke for Naruto's safety to redeem herlself to him, for always relying on him, for have fallen in love with Sasuke (in past tense).

If you read those points it doesn't says a word about Sakura doing in it for Sasuke's sake, everything she did was for Naruto she quickly took action to relealse Naruto from the promise so he didn't suffer anymore. This proves she loves Naruto romantically, more than Sasuke obviously.


Exactly. I read the manga and could see that, it's as bewildering to me as it is to Kishimoto how anyone could read it any differently than that. And to expand on one of your points, Ino was devastated and did cry about the decision but I think she's moved on romantically from Sasuke too- to Chouji, who plays a very similar role in Ino's life as Naruto does Sakura. With Ino's reaction compared to Sakura's, I'd understand a percentage of readers thinking Ino still was in love with Sasuke, but I think it's pretty obvious that it's as it is for Sakura- just memories of being an more innocent child with a fantasy crush on a boy. Sakura was more realistic, she knew it was hopeless, and she has put that girlish fantasy aside. She has the memory of it, but no she has no romantic feelings for Sasuke anymore.

Look at how Kishimoto visualized Sakura's flashbacks of Sasuke when she couldn't quite bring herself to kill Sasuke- note the lack of a romantic tone, it just jumps out at you. She was seeing the images of a younger, much more innocent Sasuke that halted her. Not any romantic feelings. The same thing motivated Kakashi's actions too, as I noted, he wasn't trying to kill Sasuke either, he was trying to reason with someone completely insane and violent. It's what has held Naruto back as well. The team mate bond runs deeper than many American readers understand. It's a kind of familial type love.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:09 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 16 2010, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well looks like the big fight of 474 is finally over we know the truth now. And that box quote says it all Sakura was telling the truth to Naruto in her confession. The other fandoms can say whatever they like but we know the real truth.


where this quote?


QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jun 16 2010, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it proves sakura loves naruto end of story kish said it sakura said it an sai said it. She was trying to kill sasuke to distroy the feelings she had left of her crush of the person she thinks he was on a ilushon as well as save him two bird one stone.
proven Cannon sakura has ben in love with naruto for awile now .


where this ?

and i have heared that is no chapter the next week ...is that right????????

Edited by ahmed, 30 October 2010 - 04:08 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 06:06 AM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 17 2010, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
where this quote?


I believe he was talking about the viz media translation.


QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 17 2010, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
where this ?


He's just trying to connect the dots. (speculating) happy.gif

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 17 2010, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and i have heared that is no chapter the next weak ...is that right????????


Yeah there won't be a chapter next week. sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 06:26 PM

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Yeah there won't be a chapter next week. sweatdrop.gif


why?



and i want to know why no one enter the debate?
becuase it is over now.......sakura was telling the truth about her confession to naruto??????

Edited by ahmed, 18 June 2010 - 06:28 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 18 2010, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why?



and i want to know why no one enter the debate?
becuase it is over now.......sakura was telling the truth about her confession to naruto??????


she was telling the truth she is over sasuke




umm got nothing becides that to debate about xD.

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 06:50 PM

the debate thread tends to run in cycles. wlel hit on a topic , chew on it a bit, then discuss other things until the next hot topic comes around. since the mangas on going hot topics will keep popping up.
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Posted 18 June 2010 - 06:52 PM

And there's the repeating cycle in which the following phrases of "Sakura is over Sasuke, Hinata is a minor character nothing more and Sakura's confession" will hit into a loop over and over at which point I will post this emoticon argh1.png and yell, "CYCLE!!!"

Edited by Insurrection, 18 June 2010 - 06:53 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 07:02 PM

I guess we're doomed to repeat this cycle until things get resolved in the manga. ermm.gif

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