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Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE (Hopestar @ Jul 22 2006, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Besides during this training arc the main focus it's on Naruto in creating his own jutsu. Obviously we may see sight of Sakura & Sai until the monk, who witness Hidan & Kakuzu tredery in the temple, reports to Tsunade. From then on Team Kakashi (and maybe Team Asuma) will play a role in defeating our two comedian Akatsuki members.


either that or they'll just find Asuma dead. After all that's probably why he's getting all this development NOW instead of in past chapters because he's gonna die only to be brought back to life again by another ninja who won't matter... heck maybe Kurenai or something.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:48 PM

Man this is never wrecking a_smashy.gif At this rate my bet on chapter 320 is when we see Sakura & Sai, Tsunade should already be unaware of Hidan & Kakuzu prescence on the Fire Country and Naruto should almost learn wind jutsu.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 06:56 PM

hmmmmmmmm that looks pretty good to me but we'll just have to wait and see just like with everything else.

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:01 PM

this might be off topic, but do you have idea what kakuzu's technique is?

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:06 PM

uhhhhhhh i think that is going off topic but not sure and i have no clue as of yet.

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:51 PM

From the recent chapter, Tsunade is sending out a squad to take care of Hidan & Kakuzu which will probably become a failure. At the most Ithink it will be up to Naruto to take them down after his training.
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Posted 02 August 2006 - 05:33 PM

true. it could, will, may, shall, and... um... i ran out... might! yeah, could, will, may, shall, might happen.

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 03:29 AM

In due of course all we have do is patiance though there are many impatiance fans in buliding which is quite understanding because I am also impatiance myself. Damn why can' t they have Sakura choose and get it over with it the suspenious kills me!
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Posted 03 August 2006 - 08:45 AM

QUOTE (Hopestar @ Aug 3 2006, 03:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In due of course all we have do is patiance though there are many impatiance fans in buliding which is quite understanding because I am also impatiance myself. Damn why can' t they have Sakura choose and get it over with it the suspenious kills me!


yeah, same here! I'm tired of MK putting it off like an afterthought! mad.gif but it would super piss me off if in the end he paired the characters with husbands and wives not even mentioned in the story.(if Sakura picks Naruto, i'll do beavis'es karate kick dance)

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 05:30 PM

And if she chooses Sasuke?
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Posted 04 August 2006 - 06:41 AM

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And if she chooses Sasuke?


Hmm, what will I do? a_plotting.gif I'll mangatize myself, go to konoha, knab sasuke and leave him in san francisco(believe me, she'll never see him again! :devil: ) and I'll help Naruto seduce Sakura and deal with Hinata by pushing her towards Kiba(because honestly, Naruto and Kiba are both literally same in personality.).

but in reality, I'd just go in the garage and whack my hand with a hammer until I'm focusing on the pain and Naruto is just an afterthought( and from then I'll just decide not to get involved with it anymore because that'd result to me a sucky-jock gets the girl no matter how much of an a**hole he is-ending.)

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 09:32 PM

Well if Sakura & Naruto do become couple I'll be like on SS vs. NS "In your face I told ya they gotta but did you believe no!" I can alot of us NS fans bragging to SS & NH about the case which I promise will turn ugly on Narutofan site.
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Posted 06 August 2006 - 07:09 PM

If they do become a pairing, I wont bash. Because then that just shows I'm worse than all the people that bash our pairing. And I think bashing doesn't solve anything. XD

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 12:40 AM

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QUOTE (Hopestar @ Aug 3 2006, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And if she chooses Sasuke?


Hmm, what will I do? a_plotting.gif I'll mangatize myself, go to konoha, knab sasuke and leave him in san francisco(believe me, she'll never see him again! :devil: ) and I'll help Naruto seduce Sakura and deal with Hinata by pushing her towards Kiba(because honestly, Naruto and Kiba are both literally same in personality.).

but in reality, I'd just go in the garage and whack my hand with a hammer until I'm focusing on the pain and Naruto is just an afterthought( and from then I'll just decide not to get involved with it anymore because that'd result to me a sucky-jock gets the girl no matter how much of an a**hole he is-ending.)


i agree sasusaku is just a bonehead pairing......

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 12:51 AM

Yeah and I will admit SasuSakuers' arguments are tiresome because they have barely any value evidences of part 2 and all they do is keep bringing up events in part 1. So what Sakura said "I love you" but remember she's trying to convince Sasuke in staying in whatever way possible. Plus from the backgroung of part 1, Sakura had a crush & was infaturated by him.

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Hmm...I agree with Hopestar to a certain extent; love at first sight is nothing special, mainly because it means you know nothing about the person. (basically what Distrikt_Sikx said, I guess)

Anyway, Sakura isn't that special in the beginning. She's like practically every single other girl in the village-she has a crush on Sasuke just because he's cool, is (more than) easy on the eyes, and is a loner with that 'big, serious past'. Everything your average girl needs to start stalking said boy.

I'm not saying her feelings for him aren't real, or that said feelings are just some stupid crush that was harbored for way too long.

But, let's face it. The only reasons her crush ended up so big in the first place are because of...well, yeah, read the second paragraph. And that she had a rivalry with Ino over him. After that, it just became something where the rivalry between her and Ino became stronger, and she had a lot of time to spend with Sasuke. (Not very love-like...)

Her feelings for him really show, though, in the way that it isn't a -childish- crush. When Sasuke chased after Gaara in the chunin exams, she protected him with her life on the line, standing up to Gaara even though she had seen what he could do to Sasuke. (Though, ninjas are supposed to put their lives on the line every day, as stated by...someone, I forget who)

In 109, she tried to persuade him to stay in the village. In that scene, she told him that she loved him and promised him that if he were to stay -with HER-, she'd make him happy. That shows love...(I guess...)

So...why? ...Heck if I know. He's got talent, looks, and he's from a large, famous clan.
Really, though. That -is- why.

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Honestly, I don't view it as love, I see it as a crush or even just infatuation. In the beginning, in the Forest of Death, Naruto had to use the bathroom, and Sakura smashed him over the head, screaming that he was ' in the presence of a lady ' and thus shouldn't piss in front of her.
Inner Sakura then proceeded to state that she wouldn't mind if it was Sasuke doing that in front of her, though (eww, what a pervert!).

So, I'll leave it at that with this post. I don't really think of it as Sakura 'loving' Sasuke, but more or so having a crush on him and being infatuated with him.

Or, as some people like to put it, I'm sure. She 'loves' him, but she's not 'in love' with him. You know, the whole thing of liking the person a lot and calling it love, but you're too young and inexperienced to even know what 'love' really is...and. Bleh, you know what I mean.


That's somewhat true when you look at it.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:03 PM

Honestly, the SasuSaku don't have a leg to stand on. Sakura clearly states that she is doin everything in her power to help Naruto get Sasuke back. I think she wants Sasuke back only for the sake of Team 7, and yet Naruto, being as dense as he is (god, I know how that is :shamefulcry0js: ) Still thinks Sakura wants her love back.

We will see how this goes.


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 07:24 AM

Found some arguments for you guys:

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You see, there is no proof that Sakura loves Naruto romantically. If she did, she would have actually accepted his date requests without adding something like "only if you pay" tacked on at the end or when she recently shot him down.

In all honestly I think ultimetely in the end, Sasuke WILL come back. Come on it's a manga. =/ Also, Naruto's NINDO.

"I'll definately bring Sasuke back! It's a promise of a lifetime!" Then Kiba asks if he could keep that promise and Naruto smirks "I never go back on my word! That's my way of the ninja!" Sooo yeah.

To me, the promise of a lifetime cemented the death of NaruSaku.


Made a post saying that Hinata's feelings are of admiration then I got this:

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But 282 contradicts that. And Kishimoto also confirmed that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were genuine and that she loved him. [databook]

Sasuke profile - "The love that Sakura felt for him was enough to fulfil his lonliness."

Then:

"He could not give into those feelings."

Sasuke stopped himself from developing feelings for Sakura. It's basically implyed right there. =/


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Yeah and when she dashed towards Naruto she also said "NARUTO! Forget the promise! I will save Sasuke-kun myself!" - Yes she cares for Naruto. But Sasuke too. So Ive seen people say about Sakura's growing feelings for Naruto will be wasted if she doesnt end up with him... Well I could say that for SasuSaku too. The entire PART 1 would be wasted [on her feelings part] if she ended up with Naruto. IMO, there is too much development on Sakura's feelings for Sasuke to have them thrown away so she ends up with Naruto. Again, that's just how I feel.


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Well I disagree. I think she WAS in love with him. "I LOVE YOU WITH ALL MY HEART!" "I would do ANYTHING for you!" "If you can't stay, then take me with you..."

She was willing to betray her own village just to be with him. How is that a simple crush? =/ Then again, that's my view.


Feel free to discuss. I need to go to bed...

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:15 PM

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You see, there is no proof that Sakura loves Naruto romantically. If she did, she would have actually accepted his date requests without adding something like "only if you pay" tacked on at the end or when she recently shot him down.

I agree that there's no actual proof right now. But there are hints. Her reaction to Yamato's comment kinda makes it look like she hasn't fully realized it yet. Besides, how does saying "only if you pay" make it less of a date? She still accepted, and girls make their boyfriends pay for them all the time. And she didn't shoot him down in 311. She said he should've been studying ninjutsu instead of planning a date, and in the situation they're in, training IS more important.
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But 282 contradicts that. And Kishimoto also confirmed that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were genuine and that she loved him. [databook]

282 just restated the fact that Hinata is nervous around Naruto. Not any different from how a shy girl would feel around her favorite celebrity or something. And if we're going by the databook, the relationships chart specifically says that Hinata admires Naruto.
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Sasuke profile - "The love that Sakura felt for him was enough to fulfil his lonliness."

Then:

"He could not give into those feelings."

The databook never says that. It says in Sasuke's profile, "The one who filled his lonely existence was Sakura. But he cannot let her in". When someone is obsessed with you, it's bound to make you feel a little special and less lonely, and he can't let her in because he's severing all ties.
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To me, the promise of a lifetime cemented the death of NaruSaku.

Strange view... To most, the promise of a lifetime strengthened the possiblility of NaruSaku. If Sasuke comes back(hopefully not, I like him the way he is), I think there's a possibility that that's when Sakura could realize she'd rather be with Naruto.
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Yeah and when she dashed towards Naruto she also said "NARUTO! Forget the promise! I will save Sasuke-kun myself!" - Yes she cares for Naruto. But Sasuke too. So Ive seen people say about Sakura's growing feelings for Naruto will be wasted if she doesnt end up with him... Well I could say that for SasuSaku too. The entire PART 1 would be wasted [on her feelings part] if she ended up with Naruto. IMO, there is too much development on Sakura's feelings for Sasuke to have them thrown away so she ends up with Naruto. Again, that's just how I feel.

Won't argue with this since it's just how the person feels. But really, Part 1 is over and lots of things have changed since then.
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She was willing to betray her own village just to be with him. How is that a simple crush? =/ Then again, that's my view.

And right before he knocked her out, she threatened to scream for help, instead of begging him to take her with him or something. The way I see it, she wasn't willing to leave with him.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:17 PM

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282 just restated the fact that Hinata is nervous around Naruto. Not any different from how a shy girl would feel around her favorite celebrity or something. And if we're going by the databook, the relationships chart specifically says that Hinata admires Naruto.

The databook never says that. It says in Sasuke's profile, "The one who filled his lonely existence was Sakura. But he cannot let her in". When someone is obsessed with you, it's bound to make you feel a little special and less lonely, and he can't let her in because he's severing all ties.


Quite honestly, I've never had much faith in any of the stuff in the databooks. I don't think they hold any hidden meanings or anything. It's just giving you a snapshot of what you might have gotten from the manga, although in its brevity, I think that some details may get twisted and may not be strictly correct. For instance, Jiraiya's toad stomach jutsu is described as "inescapable". Obviously, this is wrong since Itachi did escape it.

I don't think that admiration really describes all of how Hinata feels about Naruto. IMO, it is a bit more than that, but I don't think it's especially relevant unless Naruto stops caring about Sakura in that way and his feelings seem also seem clear. He may not be fervently chasing her, but his feelings don't seem to have wavered in over 300 chapters.

I've also heard that the Japanese word used in Hinata's description doesn't translate cleanly as admiration and also has other connotations. I can buy that since it matches up to my own interpretation of her behavior. Or I can accept that the databook just got it "wrong". (Since it's just my interpretation, I'm not going to claim that the databook is outright wrong.)

As to the description of Sasuke in the databook, if we were supposed to get that impression from the manga, I didn't do a very good job of reading and re-reading it. Sasuke seems greatly affected by Naruto. And he barely gives Sakura a second glance. And when he does think about her, he thinks about her and Naruto.

Anyway, the short version is that I don't really care about what the databooks say. smile.gif

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:33 PM

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You see, there is no proof that Sakura loves Naruto romantically. If she did, she would have actually accepted his date requests without adding something like "only if you pay" tacked on at the end or when she recently shot him down.


They seem to be forgetting that Sakura is.. 12 at this point. Just because she acts childish now doesn't mean she's going to stay that way all her life. She doesn't want to be seen with an unpopular boy.. especially when she has the risk of her rival, Ino, seeing her. Sure she's acting childish now, but just look at Part 2.. with Sasuke gone, Naruto and Sakura now have time to learn more about eachother. I can bet if Naruto asked her to go on one of his Ramen dates with him, she would reply 'why not?' with a smile. She's matured now, and she's past those popularity issues.

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In all honestly I think ultimetely in the end, Sasuke WILL come back. Come on it's a manga. =/ Also, Naruto's NINDO.


When Sasuke comes back will that mean that Sakura will be overjoyed and run back into his arms? Absolutely not. Sasuke betrayed his village, along with everyone in it. He has never returned Sakura's feelings toward him because he believes his only purpose is to avenge his clan. When she told him she loved him with all her heart, what did Sasuke do? He didn't hug her, he didn't kiss her... he didn't even smile. He reminded her how annoying she was and knocked her out. Sasuke now views everyone who gets close to him just people in the way. Do you think Sasuke will just.. come back? What gives anyone the idea that Sasuke even wants to. He's being trained by a powerful Sannin, and he's gaining more power with everyday. That's want he ultimately wanted. Each Sannin represent each of our main characters. Jiraiya=Naruto, Tsunade=Sakura, and Orochimaru=Sasuke. Now lets look at Orochimaru.. did he ever return to Konoha?

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"I'll definately bring Sasuke back! It's a promise of a lifetime!" Then Kiba asks if he could keep that promise and Naruto smirks "I never go back on my word! That's my way of the ninja!" Sooo yeah. To me, the promise of a lifetime cemented the death of NaruSaku.


Naruto made an important promise to Sakura, he promised her with all his heart. Then when he fought with Sasuke, he fought with everything he had to keep that promise.. in the end he failed. Episode 135's title was 'The Promise That Couldn't Be Kept' and probably will never be.

When Naruto returned to the village injured and covered in bandages... Sakura told him it was alright that the was unable to bring Sasuke back, but Naruto insisted and told her again that he'd get Sasuke no matter what. At that point Sakura took the time to admire him, she looked at his injures, and realised how far Naruto would go for her.. something that Sasuke would never do.

Notice in part 2 Sakura's change.. she no longer cares about that promise even though Naruto is still hell bent on keeping it. She went with him this time around and she said she'd help Naruto keep the promise. She didn't go for herself because she wanted Sasuke back, she went because she wanted that promise to dissapear from Naruto's mind.. she didn't want to see him like his was back in episode 135. When Naruto and Sakura met up with Sasuke again, they fought to get him back.. When Sakura jumped in to help, Sasuke didn't even hesitate to kill her. His revenge and gaining power is now the only thing Sasuke cares about now.




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