either that or they'll just find Asuma dead. After all that's probably why he's getting all this development NOW instead of in past chapters because he's gonna die only to be brought back to life again by another ninja who won't matter... heck maybe Kurenai or something.

The Great NaruSaku Debate Thread!
#541
Guest_Aethos_*
Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:05 PM
either that or they'll just find Asuma dead. After all that's probably why he's getting all this development NOW instead of in past chapters because he's gonna die only to be brought back to life again by another ninja who won't matter... heck maybe Kurenai or something.
#542
Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:48 PM

Let light be our guide towards victory
Whenever there's despair there's a darkness, whenever there's hope there's a light and it's up to us to bring in that light.
#543
Posted 26 July 2006 - 06:56 PM
#544
Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:01 PM
#545
Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:06 PM
#546
Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:51 PM
Let light be our guide towards victory
Whenever there's despair there's a darkness, whenever there's hope there's a light and it's up to us to bring in that light.
#547
Posted 02 August 2006 - 05:33 PM
#548
Posted 03 August 2006 - 03:29 AM
Let light be our guide towards victory
Whenever there's despair there's a darkness, whenever there's hope there's a light and it's up to us to bring in that light.
#549
Posted 03 August 2006 - 08:45 AM
yeah, same here! I'm tired of MK putting it off like an afterthought!

#550
Posted 03 August 2006 - 05:30 PM
Let light be our guide towards victory
Whenever there's despair there's a darkness, whenever there's hope there's a light and it's up to us to bring in that light.
#551
Posted 04 August 2006 - 06:41 AM
Hmm, what will I do?

but in reality, I'd just go in the garage and whack my hand with a hammer until I'm focusing on the pain and Naruto is just an afterthought( and from then I'll just decide not to get involved with it anymore because that'd result to me a sucky-jock gets the girl no matter how much of an a**hole he is-ending.)
#552
Posted 04 August 2006 - 09:32 PM
Let light be our guide towards victory
Whenever there's despair there's a darkness, whenever there's hope there's a light and it's up to us to bring in that light.
#553
Posted 06 August 2006 - 07:09 PM
#554
Posted 08 August 2006 - 12:40 AM
And if she chooses Sasuke?
Hmm, what will I do?

but in reality, I'd just go in the garage and whack my hand with a hammer until I'm focusing on the pain and Naruto is just an afterthought( and from then I'll just decide not to get involved with it anymore because that'd result to me a sucky-jock gets the girl no matter how much of an a**hole he is-ending.)
i agree sasusaku is just a bonehead pairing......
#555
Posted 08 August 2006 - 12:51 AM
Anyway, Sakura isn't that special in the beginning. She's like practically every single other girl in the village-she has a crush on Sasuke just because he's cool, is (more than) easy on the eyes, and is a loner with that 'big, serious past'. Everything your average girl needs to start stalking said boy.
I'm not saying her feelings for him aren't real, or that said feelings are just some stupid crush that was harbored for way too long.
But, let's face it. The only reasons her crush ended up so big in the first place are because of...well, yeah, read the second paragraph. And that she had a rivalry with Ino over him. After that, it just became something where the rivalry between her and Ino became stronger, and she had a lot of time to spend with Sasuke. (Not very love-like...)
Her feelings for him really show, though, in the way that it isn't a -childish- crush. When Sasuke chased after Gaara in the chunin exams, she protected him with her life on the line, standing up to Gaara even though she had seen what he could do to Sasuke. (Though, ninjas are supposed to put their lives on the line every day, as stated by...someone, I forget who)
In 109, she tried to persuade him to stay in the village. In that scene, she told him that she loved him and promised him that if he were to stay -with HER-, she'd make him happy. That shows love...(I guess...)
So...why? ...Heck if I know. He's got talent, looks, and he's from a large, famous clan.
Really, though. That -is- why.
*cough*
Honestly, I don't view it as love, I see it as a crush or even just infatuation. In the beginning, in the Forest of Death, Naruto had to use the bathroom, and Sakura smashed him over the head, screaming that he was ' in the presence of a lady ' and thus shouldn't piss in front of her.
Inner Sakura then proceeded to state that she wouldn't mind if it was Sasuke doing that in front of her, though (eww, what a pervert!).
So, I'll leave it at that with this post. I don't really think of it as Sakura 'loving' Sasuke, but more or so having a crush on him and being infatuated with him.
Or, as some people like to put it, I'm sure. She 'loves' him, but she's not 'in love' with him. You know, the whole thing of liking the person a lot and calling it love, but you're too young and inexperienced to even know what 'love' really is...and. Bleh, you know what I mean.
That's somewhat true when you look at it.
Let light be our guide towards victory
Whenever there's despair there's a darkness, whenever there's hope there's a light and it's up to us to bring in that light.
#556
Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:03 PM
We will see how this goes.


#557
Posted 16 August 2006 - 07:24 AM
In all honestly I think ultimetely in the end, Sasuke WILL come back. Come on it's a manga. =/ Also, Naruto's NINDO.
"I'll definately bring Sasuke back! It's a promise of a lifetime!" Then Kiba asks if he could keep that promise and Naruto smirks "I never go back on my word! That's my way of the ninja!" Sooo yeah.
To me, the promise of a lifetime cemented the death of NaruSaku.
Made a post saying that Hinata's feelings are of admiration then I got this:
Sasuke profile - "The love that Sakura felt for him was enough to fulfil his lonliness."
Then:
"He could not give into those feelings."
Sasuke stopped himself from developing feelings for Sakura. It's basically implyed right there. =/
She was willing to betray her own village just to be with him. How is that a simple crush? =/ Then again, that's my view.
Feel free to discuss. I need to go to bed...
#558
Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:15 PM
I agree that there's no actual proof right now. But there are hints. Her reaction to Yamato's comment kinda makes it look like she hasn't fully realized it yet. Besides, how does saying "only if you pay" make it less of a date? She still accepted, and girls make their boyfriends pay for them all the time. And she didn't shoot him down in 311. She said he should've been studying ninjutsu instead of planning a date, and in the situation they're in, training IS more important.
282 just restated the fact that Hinata is nervous around Naruto. Not any different from how a shy girl would feel around her favorite celebrity or something. And if we're going by the databook, the relationships chart specifically says that Hinata admires Naruto.
Then:
"He could not give into those feelings."
The databook never says that. It says in Sasuke's profile, "The one who filled his lonely existence was Sakura. But he cannot let her in". When someone is obsessed with you, it's bound to make you feel a little special and less lonely, and he can't let her in because he's severing all ties.
Strange view... To most, the promise of a lifetime strengthened the possiblility of NaruSaku. If Sasuke comes back(hopefully not, I like him the way he is), I think there's a possibility that that's when Sakura could realize she'd rather be with Naruto.
Won't argue with this since it's just how the person feels. But really, Part 1 is over and lots of things have changed since then.
And right before he knocked her out, she threatened to scream for help, instead of begging him to take her with him or something. The way I see it, she wasn't willing to leave with him.
#559
Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:17 PM
The databook never says that. It says in Sasuke's profile, "The one who filled his lonely existence was Sakura. But he cannot let her in". When someone is obsessed with you, it's bound to make you feel a little special and less lonely, and he can't let her in because he's severing all ties.
Quite honestly, I've never had much faith in any of the stuff in the databooks. I don't think they hold any hidden meanings or anything. It's just giving you a snapshot of what you might have gotten from the manga, although in its brevity, I think that some details may get twisted and may not be strictly correct. For instance, Jiraiya's toad stomach jutsu is described as "inescapable". Obviously, this is wrong since Itachi did escape it.
I don't think that admiration really describes all of how Hinata feels about Naruto. IMO, it is a bit more than that, but I don't think it's especially relevant unless Naruto stops caring about Sakura in that way and his feelings seem also seem clear. He may not be fervently chasing her, but his feelings don't seem to have wavered in over 300 chapters.
I've also heard that the Japanese word used in Hinata's description doesn't translate cleanly as admiration and also has other connotations. I can buy that since it matches up to my own interpretation of her behavior. Or I can accept that the databook just got it "wrong". (Since it's just my interpretation, I'm not going to claim that the databook is outright wrong.)
As to the description of Sasuke in the databook, if we were supposed to get that impression from the manga, I didn't do a very good job of reading and re-reading it. Sasuke seems greatly affected by Naruto. And he barely gives Sakura a second glance. And when he does think about her, he thinks about her and Naruto.
Anyway, the short version is that I don't really care about what the databooks say.

#560
Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:33 PM
They seem to be forgetting that Sakura is.. 12 at this point. Just because she acts childish now doesn't mean she's going to stay that way all her life. She doesn't want to be seen with an unpopular boy.. especially when she has the risk of her rival, Ino, seeing her. Sure she's acting childish now, but just look at Part 2.. with Sasuke gone, Naruto and Sakura now have time to learn more about eachother. I can bet if Naruto asked her to go on one of his Ramen dates with him, she would reply 'why not?' with a smile. She's matured now, and she's past those popularity issues.
When Sasuke comes back will that mean that Sakura will be overjoyed and run back into his arms? Absolutely not. Sasuke betrayed his village, along with everyone in it. He has never returned Sakura's feelings toward him because he believes his only purpose is to avenge his clan. When she told him she loved him with all her heart, what did Sasuke do? He didn't hug her, he didn't kiss her... he didn't even smile. He reminded her how annoying she was and knocked her out. Sasuke now views everyone who gets close to him just people in the way. Do you think Sasuke will just.. come back? What gives anyone the idea that Sasuke even wants to. He's being trained by a powerful Sannin, and he's gaining more power with everyday. That's want he ultimately wanted. Each Sannin represent each of our main characters. Jiraiya=Naruto, Tsunade=Sakura, and Orochimaru=Sasuke. Now lets look at Orochimaru.. did he ever return to Konoha?
Naruto made an important promise to Sakura, he promised her with all his heart. Then when he fought with Sasuke, he fought with everything he had to keep that promise.. in the end he failed. Episode 135's title was 'The Promise That Couldn't Be Kept' and probably will never be.
When Naruto returned to the village injured and covered in bandages... Sakura told him it was alright that the was unable to bring Sasuke back, but Naruto insisted and told her again that he'd get Sasuke no matter what. At that point Sakura took the time to admire him, she looked at his injures, and realised how far Naruto would go for her.. something that Sasuke would never do.
Notice in part 2 Sakura's change.. she no longer cares about that promise even though Naruto is still hell bent on keeping it. She went with him this time around and she said she'd help Naruto keep the promise. She didn't go for herself because she wanted Sasuke back, she went because she wanted that promise to dissapear from Naruto's mind.. she didn't want to see him like his was back in episode 135. When Naruto and Sakura met up with Sasuke again, they fought to get him back.. When Sakura jumped in to help, Sasuke didn't even hesitate to kill her. His revenge and gaining power is now the only thing Sasuke cares about now.

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