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#541 Nostradamus

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:02 PM

 

You never know until you try. But in the event that their presence doesn't yield much difference, they should use the alternative plan in order to weaken Kaguya.

 

The problem might be that Hagoromo's power is just the fractured half of a single whole. From the account given about the conflicts that ravaged the continent when the Jubi first existed, the two children of Kaguya fought the Ten-Tails as an act of penitence for their mother's crimes. Now if you subscribe to the theory that the siblings challenged Kaguya herself, it would suggest that they had the power to match her strength; similar to the current state where Naruto and Sasuke were able to stave Madara off. That could be the missing piece to beating her. Ashura and Indra were only segments to a halve of a whole puzzle. Instead of having the necessary 50% power to tally up and equal Kaguya who represents 100% of the Otsutsuki's power, they only have 25% each. How that translates into their combat skills is that their speed, strength, and acuity are child's play to this being (with 50% each they could at least hold their own). 

 

I think you might be right about Hamura playing a part in this. His knowledge and gifts are what Naruto and Sasuke need to overcome the final benchmark in the line of succession which is the Sage of the Six Paths himself and his brother. Overtake them and you have a chance of beating Kaguya (unless they choose to take another approach that was suggested). 

True you'll never know until you try. However just like ramenanmitsu said the Edo Hokage's weren't a match for Obito when he was the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi. Now I want to say something similar to what you said about percentages. The way I see it right now is: Naruto+Sasuke=Hagoromo; Hagoromo+Hamura=Kaguya. Just like you said Naruto and Sasuke only have 50% of the power needed to defeat Kaguya.

Maybe really amazing strategy and working together coming from everyone will be enough to equal the remaining 50%. But I doubt that.

They need help desperately.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:10 PM

True about Edo, which is why we think this is the end of them. The best they can do is to help them dodge instantly or take the bullet. It's better than nothing.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:14 PM

Won't that be messed up leaving Obito to the lava? I can see maybe Sasuke saying why the hell you save him. Kakashi would be grateful and I think Sakura would be too. He did save her and Naruto, go figure.

But can't forgot he played a huge role in starting this kitten in the first place. That's why he going to hell.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:17 PM

I swear if Kishi powers up N/S AGAIN, but leaves Sakura out, I will start burning Sh**!


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:20 PM

I swear if Kishi powers up N/S AGAIN, but leaves Sakura out, I will start burning Sh**!

I'm gonna take my anger out on my laptop and get a new one.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:21 PM

But can't forgot he played a huge role in starting this kitten in the first place. That's why he going to hell.

I'm just saying right now, Naruto isn't going to let him die. So in a way, if there's anyone going to save them, it will be either Minato or Naruto. Which brings up this point on who to save Kakashi and Sakura. See how it works.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:22 PM

I'm just saying right now, Naruto isn't going to let him die. So in a way, if there's anyone going to save them, it will be either Minato or Naruto. Which brings up this point on who to save Kakashi and Sakura. See how it works.

Minato saves Obito, while Tobirama saves Saku/ Kaka? Or we can reverse it.

 

@luffy, I would feel terrible the next second if I did that. But fires are your friends cause you can burn worthless things all you want.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:24 PM

Because of this chapter I really think there will be a part 3 coming...First of all Kaguya doesn't really feel like the final villain...Why does she need an army if she already conquered the world!? I think she's about to fight an even bigger enemy on another planet or dimension or a new continent?.... I fear that Kishi will prolong this manga for 5 more years+.

 

I just checked NF and even them are all talking about space ninja and aliens, lol. I wasn't sure if they were serious but then I saw this:

Now I understand why. Welp Naruto Z is coming.

 

Yeah....an evil Space emperor. Don't worry they will all be resurrected by a magical dragon.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:26 PM

Minato saves Obito, while Tobirama saves Saku/ Kaka? Or we can reverse it.
 
@luffy, I would feel terrible the next second if I did that. But fires are your friends cause you can burn worthless things all you want.

That could work too, though how can they teleport there without a mark?

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:26 PM

I'm just saying right now, Naruto isn't going to let him die. So in a way, if there's anyone going to save them, it will be either Minato or Naruto. Which brings up this point on who to save Kakashi and Sakura. See how it works.

I'm not saying he shouldn't. Just pointing out that 1 good deed doesn't erase a kitten storm of bad deeds. Not like it matters if Naruto saves him, it ain't like he's gonna survive this war anyway. Sacrifice or succumb to injury. Pick one.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:27 PM

I'm not saying he shouldn't. Just pointing out that 1 good deed doesn't erase a kitten storm of bad deeds. Not like it matters if Naruto saves him, it ain't like he's gonna survive this war anyway. Sacrifice or succumb to injury. Pick one.

Oh I know that. Just wondering what's the purpose of Obito in this battle. Surely, it will be important.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:29 PM

That could work too, though how can they teleport there without a mark?

Well, Obito has a permanent mark from Minato right? And did Tobirama even need to mark places? Couldn't he teleport where ever he wanted, within his rage or something?


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:32 PM

Oh I know that. Just wondering what's the purpose of Obito in this battle. Surely, it will be important.

Now he's just a catalyst for us to feel sad and not pin any of the blame on Sasuke when he gets redeemed. It's not like Obito didn't think before his actions.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:33 PM

Well, Obito has a permanent mark from Minato right? And did Tobirama even need to mark places? Couldn't he teleport where ever he wanted, within his rage or something?

Didn't Obito mark disappear though because his body changed? Luckily those guys can teleport back and forth quick because if there's a interval, they will die with them. Lol.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:34 PM

Now he's just a catalyst for us to feel sad and not pin any of the blame on Sasuke when he gets redeemed. It's not like Obito didn't think before his actions.

I'm only referring now. It's clear that he's there for a reason.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:39 PM

I'm only referring now. It's clear that he's there for a reason.

Corpses can be spectators too. His story line has been wring dry. The last thing that took place was the blame game with Juudara.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:41 PM

Corpses can be spectators too. His story line has been wring dry. The last thing that took place was the blame game with Juudara.

Lol corpse. Seriously, give it time. Like how they did 666, it suppose to be a "surprise" when he awakes.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:42 PM

Hashirama didn't fight Obito personally but he seemed to be having a difficult time against Edo Madara so he might only be marginally noticeable to Kaguya. Still, when you put him next to the current crop of fighters that Naruto and Sasuke have as allies, he might not appear so weak. His Mokuton abilities could certainly have more use for the team than whatever Kakashi and Sakura can muster. 



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 02:51 PM

I'm gonna take my anger out on my laptop and get a new one.

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That could work too, though how can they teleport there without a mark?

Didn't Minato already marked Naruto ? Also that FTG kunai is in the near so there is that i think ? as for Obito he's still here for the redemption and to say his goodbye to MinaKakaNaru possible something NS related also he already got his revenge on Madara through BZ/Kaguya .


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 03:04 PM

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Didn't Minato already marked Naruto ? Also that FTG kunai is in the near so there is that i think ? as for Obito he's still here for the redemption and to say his goodbye to MinaKakaNaru possible something NS related also he already got his revenge on Madara through BZ/Kaguya .

LOL, I saw the video that came from, dude pissed his pants.

 

Also, I agree about the final redemption and possible NS things. It sucks when practically all the villains get redeemed, because I never know when to feel bad for them or not.

 

Hell, even with Itachi there were some things that didn't add up.

 

Ex. If he knew that Orochimaru wanted his eyes, but was too weak to get them, why didn't he think his naive, hate driven, sharingan having brother would be targeted? I also didn't like to tortures he put young Sasuke through in the genjutsus.( I say young, cause older Sasuke can face plant in the lava pit for all I care.)

 

I just feel he could've did a better job at that, rather than let himself get killed for nothing in the end and leave Sasuke alone for so long. He didn't want Sasuke to know the truth and yet he had suspicions of Tobi and even created a plan in case the two came in contact, but that brings me back to my Orochimaru statement.I just feel, Itachi could have done a lot better with Sasuke, but whatever I do feel bad for him a lot more than I not.

 

Sorry for the rant, I just agree with luffy for the most part one deed does not erase the other hundred.


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