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[Hiraishin]

Yeah, there's really no reason for Sakura to find out about Sasuke's condition. She's busy saving someone else's life right now, and by the time she can see what's going on around her after she's sure Naruto is 100% okay, Sasuke will probably already be saved by whoever showed up at the end of this chapter (if not, Taka).

Edited by Hiraishin, 06 February 2014 - 02:06 AM.

[Ausakura]

James S Cassidy is the type of fan that an writer wants as a friend. 

[TheFirstEvil100]

Okay, why is everyone so afraid of a SasuSaku moment happened at this very moment? It's not going to happen. This is why Karin was brought into play. Why do people keep forgetting that Karin loves Sasuke too and that Kishimoto purposely set it up so she would go? You don't need Sakura going if Karin is already there. I get you want Sakura to have that open choice between the two boys, but come on, that's pretty petty right now. The scene is supposed to be a huge emotional one with Naruto and Sasuke dying and you want a petty scene where Sakura has to choose between Naruto and Sasuke?

Some of you even think that if she knew about Sasuke, she would just abandon Naruto right then and there, but I doubt it. There is a good chance that Sakura wouldn't even know of Sasuke condition at all and I know people are going to use this in arguments. Which again is such a petty argument. I hate this one.

Sasuke has been on the battlefield the whole time and Sakura didn't worry about Sasuke once nor even thought about him. Why all of a sudden now? Because he is dying? If Kishi wanted Sakura to be by Sasuke, he would have set it up that way. Instead she is by Naruto's side keeping him alive. She teared up even at the thought, but kept her composure.

As for "lack of emotion" some are claiming. She is a medical ninja. Just like a real world doctor who is trained to put duty before emotion, she is putting what needs to be done first. It's not like Karin who is thrashing out erratically out of pure emotional trauma or Hinata who gets emotional and trips giving up. She is the strongest of the three. She'll be emotional when Naruto is alive and wakes up. 

It reminds me of that scene in the movie City of Angels where Maggie the doctor is trying to save an Old Man's life by literally massaging his heart. The old man dies anyway and she tells the family with a calm composure. She then goes to a secret staircase and starts crying her eyes out thinking she could have done more to save the man's life. That's what this scene is to me. Sakura is hold back because she has not given up hope yet and when it is all said and done, then she will feel the weight of the emotion. Still, the scene is very emotional internally (no pun intended) and that's where really the magic is. It's not on Sakura's face, it's what she is feeling in her heart.

I wouldn't have it any other way because Sakura is NOT Hinata, she is NOT Karin. She is a strong, yet stubborn girl who never gives up. People want to say that Hinata never gives up and yet we just had a scene where she did and broke down. Here we have Sakura doing the exact opposite of that and not giving up and not letting her emotions cloud her judgement.

 

This is how real story writing is supposed to be. Not just....as Nostaliga Critic..."UUUUNNNNNCCCLLLLLEEEE BEEEEEEEENNNNN OOOHHH"

Yeah its like Kishi said a long time agao in an interview they say Hinata and Kishi says Sakura is not Hinata.

 

I mean she is showing how far she has come I mean look back when she first showed  she has grown so much from being that 12 year old girl who only wanted Sasuke.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I'm really reminded of when Itachi said to Naruto that his dad was able to become Hokakge because of Kushina and his comrades, when looking at Sakura's actions in today's release.  While not directly paralleling her to Kushina, this chapter showed Sakura as being Naruto's primary supporter, the same way Kushina was for Minato.  Sakura wants Naruto to realize his dream.  It's been his driving force.  He says it over and over, "I will become Hokage!".  That's why he can't die now, because he's now closer to reaching it than he's ever been.  She will do whatever it takes to keep him alive.  This isn't the first time, either.  We've seen this as far back as the Chuunin exams.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 06 February 2014 - 02:22 AM.

[Torxe]

awesome chapter

 

Does anyone else think that helping Naruto recover might bring sakura on Madara and/or Obito's radar?

Untill now I don't think she's been noticed by any of the two.

[TheFirstEvil100]

To me guys I really like this chapter with a lot going on true the CPR shocked me the most I mean that was bold by Kishi I will give him that as I didn't think he would add that I just thought he would do something else. Also the whole heart thing was cool and good thinking from Sakura this shows how good a medic she is becoming with each chapter.

 

Man even Karin is showing what a bad ass she is, in this chapter and using her head as well same with Sasuke team and I'm just going to say I have no idea who Tobi2 is at this point in time.

 

as for who the one coming up to Sasuke is well we just have to wait until next week.

[Nate River]

Im sorry, I have to say this.

The idea to put forth to tell Sakura that Sasuke is also dying and that she has to make a choice really is such a weak and petty argument to try and make. Also, think about this, it would be so cruel to do as it will mean that Sakura would be a called a "B-word" no matter what choice she makes.  If she stays with Naruto, NH and SS call her a "B-word" and selfish. If she leaves for Sasuke she will also be called a "B-word" and a fangirl. Doing it will ruin Sakura's character even more and she is just now getting more respect.

I'd say not do it at all. Don't even tell Sakura about Sasuke's condition and let the fans speculate all they want. That is the least damage you can do and keep things as civil as you can.

Ruin her character? I think putting them in rather thorny moral dilemma's like that are good for testing their mettle. I suspect she stays with whomever she is currently treating or, if she can determine it, treats the one in most dire need. If you remove Karin from the picture (one can dream) and she bolts for Sasuke right now there are decent odds she kills them both (Naruto dies from her leaving and Sasuke dies before she gets there). Since Naruto's heart only beats by her effort, it's hard to imagine her suddenly stopping to go for Sasuke because of that very reason. Unless someone is right there that is competent enough to take over that task (and who at the same time is less able than her to treat Sasuke), Naruto dies the instant she quits with no assurance she can do a thing for Sasuke.

Anyway, which ever side got the "raw" end of the deal would whine, which would be fine. Let them.

Besides, the real solution to this problem is elderly fodder ninja. They should ask Gaara if Suna can spare a couple more of them.

Moreover, let them speculate what she might do. She's not facing that at the moment, so who cares what she might have done for Sasuke? It's not playing out that way so it's only idle speculation anyway. Karin is headed there. I'm just imagining what's about to happen when she saves Sasuke. If I'm lucky Orochimaru will swoop in and be the hero. If I'm not, I might need to buy a canister of bleach at my local grocery story to help me forget.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I find it crazy that she will be doing the same position for the next couple of chapters until the transfer complete. Obito may cry for not getting that close. Just kidding.

[JG111580]

I agree with those that say the act of the CPR in and of itself is not romantic. However, I do think that it is symbolic. It's been mentioned before, but you can't get any further into someone's personal space. Her lips are on his and her hand is on his heart. Nuf said there. I think the more telling portion of the chapter is the blending of his and her dreams and how desperate she is to keep them alive. It's not just for Naruto, but for herself too. Plus, these thoughts are not complete, so we could get more as the situation becomes more desperate. Probably not a coincidence that Gaara was present when Naruto risked it all to defend Sakura and is here again in this situation.

 

My ideal scenario from this point is Gaara Sakura and Naruto reaching Kakashi Minato and Obito just before Madara. Obito throws in a Sakura/Rin parallel. Madara arrives and wants the other eye. He notices Naruto, still tended to by Sakura. He notices the other half of Kurama in edo Minato. He decides not to take any risks and finish them. Sakura uses her own body to shield Naruto. Kakashi and Gaara create a diversion while Minato uses FTG to take Naruto and Sakura somewhere secluded to create the seal. We get a Minato/Sakura moment, maybe another mention of Kushina. Or Minato gives Sakura a message to pass on to Naruto. Minato creates the seal and heads back to help Gaara and Kakashi. Even with the new seal it takes awhile for Naruto to recover. NaruSaku moment... Dark Kurama has learned the secret of FTG from Minato. 9 tails charkra is the key because Naruto can jump to anyone who has a trace amount of his chakra. Naruto heads back to the battle. In strength Naruto can't compete with Madara, but if he masters FTG, he could use it to deliver lightning fast blows without getting touched in return, weakening Madara enough for another game of tug of war. Maybe Sauske recovers and provides a distraction that leads to end game victory.

 

I'd also like to know Bee's status, if word of Naruto's condition is spreading on the front line and how it is affecting everyone, and if Karin might be Naruto's first cousin due to the similarity of her abilities to Kushina. They are rare and valued afterall and Oorchimaru probably recognized that. Or she is a Kushina replica as Yamato is a replica of the first hokage.

 

If anyone is interested in foreshadowing of the events of the manga up till now, take a look back at chaper one. There is an image of the leaf village with Naruto in the foreground surrounded by flames. To his right is a toad (Gambunta?) blowing smoke that is also wrapping around Naruto. Kakashi is standing on the toad's head with arms folded. The two things I find most interesting about this image are how Sakura is depicted and how Sauske is depicted. Sakura is actually tucked into the toad's robe directly over the his heart. She is looking in Naruto's direction, shielding her eyes trying to see him more clearly. I think this speaks to where Kishimoto has intended to take Sakura's story all along leading up to the current event. Sauske is the only figure to Naruto's left. He is alone, aloof, and riding atop a hawk. I guess that one's pretty self explanitory. Anyway, thought it was interesting.  

 

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[MangaReader]

James S Cassidy is the type of fan that an writer wants as a friend. 

I must be the artist's best-friend lol... *sigh* 

[DattebayoXShannaro]

awesome chapter

 

Does anyone else think that helping Naruto recover might bring sakura on Madara and/or Obito's radar?

Untill now I don't think she's been noticed by any of the two.

 

Madara, no.  Obito, well, it would be kind of hard for him not to in my opinion.  I mean she'll be right there in his eyes.  She's a medic, and the way she's prolonging Naruto's life shows determination.  It would be hard for him not to relate her to Rin, considering it's Obito we're talking about.

 

I find it crazy that she will be doing the same position for the next couple of chapters until the transfer complete. Obito may cry for not getting that close. Just kidding.

 

The Rin thing was so exasperatedly emphasized that any joke about it now comes across as bad taste, no offense.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 06 February 2014 - 02:44 AM.

[harry4e]

Im sorry, I have to say this.

The idea to put forth to tell Sakura that Sasuke is also dying and that she has to make a choice really is such a weak and petty argument to try and make. Also, think about this, it would be so cruel to do as it will mean that Sakura would be a called a "B-word" no matter what choice she makes.  If she stays with Naruto, NH and SS call her a "B-word" and selfish. If she leaves for Sasuke she will also be called a "B-word" and a fangirl. Doing it will ruin Sakura's character even more and she is just now getting more respect.

I'd say not do it at all. Don't even tell Sakura about Sasuke's condition and let the fans speculate all they want. That is the least damage you can do and keep things as civil as you can.

 

 

Does it really matter? I think allot of people forget that Sakura has put Naruto's dreams and feeling above Sasuke before. first was during the Chunnin exams when she was going to raise her hand because she didn't want to hurt Narutos chance of becoming Hokage, knowing full well how Sasuke would react, and then recently when she went on the mission to kill Sasuke, she did it to free Naruto of Sasuke...SasuSaku fans can argue all they want but as it stands right now, if Sakura knew both Sasuke and Naruto were dying and could only goto save one, she would goto save Naruto...even if she might love Sasuke, she cares for Naruto allot more, she knows Naruto is more important to Konoha and the world ....she has proven she can live in a world without Sasuke, but can she live in a world without Naruto? He's the one who's been there for her, who stood up for her, who beleived in her and inspired her to become stronger.

 

You are right though, not having her know is for the best, there are enough people who hate her for one stupid reason or another as it is, And let's face it I doubt her reaction would come close to Karin's. I've not been a fan of hers for the most part, she's a bit scary and her obsession with Sasuke is creepy, but her reaction was pretty awesome, and went a long way to convince me atleast that maybe Karin/Sasuke isn't so bad afterall, and who knows maybe that was the point, Kishi needed to show Karin as a real contender for Sasuke's black heart.

[James S Cassidy]

Ruin her character? I think putting them in rather thorny moral dilemma's like that are good for testing their mettle. I suspect she stays with whomever she is currently treating or, if she can determine it, treats the one in most dire need. If you remove Karin from the picture (one can dream) and she bolts for Sasuke right now there are decent odds she kills them both (Naruto dies from her leaving and Sasuke dies before she gets there). Since Naruto's heart only beats by her effort, it's hard to imagine her suddenly stopping to go for Sasuke because of that very reason. Unless someone is right there that is competent enough to take over that task (and who at the same time is less able than her to treat Sasuke), Naruto dies the instant she quits with no assurance she can do a thing for Sasuke.

Anyway, which ever side got the "raw" end of the deal would whine, which would be fine. Let them.

Besides, the real solution to this problem is elderly fodder ninja. They should ask Gaara if Suna can spare a couple more of them.

Moreover, let them speculate what she might do. She's not facing that at the moment, so who cares what she might have done for Sasuke? It's not playing out that way so it's only idle speculation anyway. Karin is headed there. I'm just imagining what's about to happen when she saves Sasuke. If I'm lucky Orochimaru will swoop in and be the hero and if I'm not I might need to by a canister of bleach at my local grocery story to help me forget.

The problem is, Nate, that unlike me and you and some other fans who look at "story" possibilities...many, many, many, other fans from other fandoms only look at the pairing possibilities and that is what I am talking about. Here is where I know you are going to say "Well, their opinions don't matter." They do actually and it all depends on the greater goal of the writer in question. If you want your audience for the majority to like a certain character or see them in a certain light, then don't put them or make them go into situation that you know might get them hated for it. Especially with an audience as shallow and as tunnel-visioned as the Naruto fandom.

You guys keep trying to say "forget about them and focus on the story, it doesn't matter what opinion they have," but honestly I should argue that maybe we all should put the pairing wars on a backpedal and actually focus on the story itself. Here is the irony of it all as well, if every fan, regardless of pairing choice, just focused on what is good for the story and not what is good for their pairing choice then the pairing wars wouldn't even exist.

Unfortunately, that is not the world we live in. We live in a fandom where a majority of the fanbase cares more about their own pairing and what moments their pairng gets than actually what it an awesome story plot. You know this to be true. Kishimoto even knows this considering that he even hears some fan comments and even finds some of them disturbing when he answers with a "I thought I did this, but apparently I was told wrong by fans that it wasn't like this at all."

So inessence it is our fault and we have no one to blame, but ourselves.

Yeah, it would be great from a story telling point of view, but all the drama that it would kick up would not be worth it. You're better off using it for something else. You are also guilty of the same thing with characters and plot devices that you find unreasonable even though it actually can be a good story plot. I am the same way with Sasuke as you are with Obito and Karin.

That kind of story plot would be better used for the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke where "This is the end, this is where all questions get answered."

Edit: To add to what I already typed, why would Kishi need to do it anyway? How many times did Sakura choose Naruto over Sasuke in this battle already? Shouldn't need to keep doing something to drive home a point that has already been established many times over.
 

 

Does it really matter? I think allot of people forget that Sakura has put Naruto's dreams and feeling above Sasuke before. first was during the Chunnin exams when she was going to raise her hand because she didn't want to hurt Narutos chance of becoming Hokage, knowing full well how Sasuke would react, and then recently when she went on the mission to kill Sasuke, she did it to free Naruto of Sasuke...SasuSaku fans can argue all they want but as it stands right now, if Sakura knew both Sasuke and Naruto were dying and could only goto save one, she would goto save Naruto...even if she might love Sasuke, she cares for Naruto allot more, she knows Naruto is more important to Konoha and the world ....she has proven she can live in a world without Sasuke, but can she live in a world without Naruto? He's the one who's been there for her, who stood up for her, who beleived in her and inspired her to become stronger.

 

You are right though, not having her know is for the best, there are enough people who hate her for one stupid reason or another as it is, And let's face it I doubt her reaction would come close to Karin's. I've not been a fan of hers for the most part, she's a bit scary and her obsession with Sasuke is creepy, but her reaction was pretty awesome, and went a long way to convince me atleast that maybe Karin/Sasuke isn't so bad afterall, and who knows maybe that was the point, Kishi needed to show Karin as a real contender for Sasuke's black heart.

 

To about 70% of the fanbase it does. You see how bad they react to an ambiguous hint; imagine what a confirmation would do? As I said, I blame the fandom themselves for putting their own wants and needs above the story itself.

It would be best to keep it for a plot device in the end.

We are no different and we all know this to be true as we also sometimes jump at things that mean nothing.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 06 February 2014 - 03:12 AM.

[Inferno180]

I just want to see what happens with minato, sooner he can help naruto, sooner all these crazy hopes and theories of sakura dying can end. I seriously hate how people think sakura will just sacrifice herself for naruto in essence to open up an opportunity for nh. Really if that's how it goes, some people are only hoping for a character death despite how it would ruin so much if the story, forget Sakura's character development and all the investment in her, forget the Kushina foreshadow, forget events like 631, just end it all and make naruto sponaneously fall in love with hinata because sakura is no longer loving, that's what will happen if sakura died.

I also don't like the sakura sacrifices herself and obito revives her, really while it could make sense with a whole breaking a cycle things resolving and granting naruto something why bother with the long drama, sakura used for minatos jutsu only to be revived by obito? Why not just obito who is slowly dying no matter what?. I still think if minato needs a living person for the transfer, obito is the better choice because well he is directly correlated with naruto and he is no longer a villain. It makes sense for obitos redemption to be the one who in turn helps in narutos recovery.

Really next it all depends on minatos actions and what the jutsu requires, if anything it should just be minato maybe going away but this all depends if the transfer is based in the reaper death seal, otherwise if he has a convinent quick transfer then no issue, really in this situation I can only think if how obito used his own six paths jinchurki and how easily separated the tailed beasts were from their hosts, who knows Kishi may just make things simple and just let minato undue the seal on himself and put it into naruto.

Really it's all based in kurama being the only tailed beast split in half, the true kurama is what naruto carried, kurama only with his yang chakra. Yin or dark kurama developed on his own because of the split, this one comes to naruto maybe it will be convienent.

I just don't want to see sakura go at at, if she dies for good, well that's a lot ruined. If she is temporarily dead, just drama and ire, I would rather avoid that. Seriously if a sacrifice is needed by minato, wouldn't obito make the most sense?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Oh my god. 28 PAGES IN ONE DAY. THE NARUSAKU FANDON HAS EXPLODED.

 

This chapter ... I can't believe all of this happened. I'm still processing it somewhere.  I think I'm still in shock lol, but I will say this CHAPTER WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I have some minor issues with a few details, but it's not that much of a big deal to me because SAKURA.

 

I'll be honest. Sakura's been my favorite female character for years, but I did not expect for a second for her to be able to remain her composure the moment she found out Naruto lost the Kyuubi. I feel kinda bad for being as surprised as I was, but I've never been so glad to be wrong. Sakura's come a long way and how she started off as, even from the beginning of Shippuden (She cried at the mere thought of Naruto losing Kurama, but look at her now). Sakura's tactics were really desperate and brutal (ex. actually grabbing his damn heart by opening him up ... just wow.  ) and she seems almost like she's entirely calm, but then you see that monologue at the end of the chapter that shows she actually hurting and afraid, but she's trying to ignore that so Naruto can live and not give up when he needs her most. AAH, the selflessness of NaruSaku omg.

 

I give Sakura so much props for being this desperate to save Naruto but still try to be professional about it. You know how much Sakura's clinging to hope that he will survive and that she refuses to give up or accept any other possibility until the worse actually happens. It's just so different from Hinata who immediately gave up while Sakura is so determined that she won't even let herself cry when she probably wants to and it's just.    I don't understand the belief that Sakura was being unemotional in this. She was very emotional, but she just made more of an attempt to control it. You saw that one panel of shock and panic when Naruto stopped breathing, didn't you? The ending was pretty obvious too.

 

And of course ... the CPR rumor turned out to be true. Oh my god, I was so fangirling at first when I saw the scene. I swear I thought a CPR speculation was trolling, but I was so wrong and this chapter was so perfect. I'm not saying Sakura had romantic intentions there because she clearly did not. It was not the time or place for that. It was just CPR, a procedural standard to help save his life. It was very professional, but that doesn't you can't some sort of enjoyment out of it considering that was the only lip-locking scene in the whole series and closest to a "kiss" either Sakura or Naruto had. No matter the intentions, at least we can say Sakura is the first girl to hug Naruto and meet his lips. No Hinata thank god.   Lol, Naruto will have the biggest kitten-eating grin on his face when he finds out Sakura "kissed" him.  And it probably doesn't mean anything, but did you guys notice how Sakura kept her hand on Naruto's face when she stopped her CPR for a moment and looked at him?

 

As for Karin ... I'm kinda mixed over her at this chapter. She was a complete badass taking them on to try to get to Sasuke, but I didn't like how she revealed to have Kushina's chains as an ability. It's cool and everything, but I just thought it was a major asspull considering she didn't use this against Sasuke or Danzo. Even if she activated it just now like Orochimaru seemed to imply, I still don't like it much. I dunno, it's just ... meh. I'm not much of a Karin fan or SasuKarin fan, especially of the latter. I don't think Sasuke's meant to be with anyone, but I'll give the SK fans some credit. From a storytelling POV, the contrast of Karin going to save Sasuke and Sakura trying to save Naruto all at the same time is some intense parallel.  The fact that Karin/SasuKarin was lumped with Sakura and by default NaruSaku might even be some form of foreshadowing if we know Kishi's style. I still hate Sasuke with anyone, but you can't deny that could very easily apply to SK. It also couldn't (I personally hope so), but you never know.

 

All in all amazing chapter overall. NaruSaku is going to have a lot of more juicy moments ahead ....

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 06 February 2014 - 03:19 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You do know I was kidding about Obito, right?

Edit: I never noticed Orochimaru's panel have him said "I finall understand..." Um, what does that mean?

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 06 February 2014 - 03:31 AM.

[LadyofHubris]

Pretty amazing chapter. I'm surprised to see twenty-eight pages in one day though. People were seriously celebrating, huh? 

[StrawberryAcappella]

Yea, great chapter. When Sakura put her heart into hid chest was really crazy for me though ( she's a medic bamf and I love that she's finally being featured), I guess im just faint of heart. But at the sane time I love it because SHE HAS LITTERALY TOUCHED HIS HEART! And now in the future the people of konoha will talk about how their Hokages life was saved by the awesomest medic nin ever. At least that s hopeful thinking on my part. They're legends now. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, I know we are calmed and understand the situation but I do wonder how Japan audience reacted with that first CPR. I mean hardcore fans could jump to conclusion ASAP. It sure showed that for RtN.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

You do know I was kidding about Obito, right?

Edit: I never noticed Orochimaru's panel have him said "I finall understand..." Um, what does that mean?

 

I know.  It's just that Obito's obsession over Rin has been emphasized to the point that any joke relating to it comes across as bad taste in my opinion.

 

I hope we do get exposition on that line from Orochimaru.  It could give Karin some much needed depth to her character.