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#541 六道仙人

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 23 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what I'm thinking that could probably redeem Sakura? The Alliance all getting very hurt and Sakura getting some real badass power-up and heal them all. Otherwise, I don't see any way that Sakura's character can be redeemed.


that's why I say that we would still wait until the end of the battle. Sakura will be the last one who will shine. No way she's going to where are the kage... She said in 573 "We'll be together with everyone..." She still around here, Kishi has something in mind for her. We only wait to see what's his purpose regarding her.

No way that he shows tenten and Akamaru in kyuubi mode and still avoiding Sakura now until the battle. This shows that Kishi has something in mind, I know that we still think about this for years ma this's a battle where everyone want to fight toghether with Naruto for protecting the entire world, not only just Naruto and Bee. Sakura states this, this's a battle which will decide the shinobi world's destiny.

Obito and Madara still here, free by the Juubi, the battle is only at the beginning...
The juubi still have another transformation...

Let's see where is going Kishi here.... We're all frustrating but it's better to wait until the end of the battle. Afterwards we will would give our judments...

Btw Sai is important, he's part of team 7. Of course he isn't important as Sakura but still stay important. Sakura is here on the battlefield, Sai in flight. Maybe they're part of the plan or something...

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:46 PM

WHAT IF!!!

sakura is in the other dimension but isn't attacking obito because shes WAITING!!

think about it....if sakura attacks obito and doesn't get a good shot...then obito would discover she's there and take her out.

so she has one shot and is waiting for him to transport a good portion of his torso or something...


.........am i going crazy?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

So I drew Sakura in a Kyuubi cloak. I'm gonna post that kitten today and call that my Sakura fix for now. I didn't draw her in that Konoha attire. I drew her in her own attired, and I must say it's pretty badass. She's even wearing her forehead protector on her forehead means she's equal to Naruto. biggrin.gif

I'm really starting not to even care about pairings anymore given the constant shoving of Hinata down my throat, the lack of NS interaction even though it's bound to happen eventually, and the lack of Sakura period. It's really just flat out annoying that he's deliberately excluding her. I mean, what's going to be the big reveal when it comes to her and how will her skills be used because i honestly don't even know. The only thing that I can think of her strength increasing drastically because I think if her punches get upgraded her strength is gonna evolve farther than what Rock Lee and Guy are dealing.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 23 2013, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHAT IF!!!

sakura is in the other dimension but isn't attacking obito because shes WAITING!!

think about it....if sakura attacks obito and doesn't get a good shot...then obito would discover she's there and take her out.

so she has one shot and is waiting for him to transport a good portion of his torso or something...


.........am i going crazy?


No you're not going crazy. That would be awesome actually, and it would make sense if this was REALLY going on; the last thing she would want is to have her and possibly Sai's position given away. That's another thing that has my curiosity too: the fact that Sai wasn't shown either. If it was just about Kishi not caring for Sakura anymore, then why isn't Sai there as well. Especially since he practically helped Bee out last time. It's weird, but in a good way I think. Of course we'll have to wait and see if this prediction proves true, but it's an interesting one. happy.gif

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 23 2013, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHAT IF!!!

sakura is in the other dimension but isn't attacking obito because shes WAITING!!

think about it....if sakura attacks obito and doesn't get a good shot...then obito would discover she's there and take her out.

so she has one shot and is waiting for him to transport a good portion of his torso or something...


.........am i going crazy?

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Think about it, is it really a coincidence that both of Naruto's teammates just disappeared out of the blue. No one is worried, they seem to act like nothing happened. Because everything is going smoothly, according to plan.

Sakura seems to be the type to wait and strike for the right moment. She'll hit him right where it hurts. And I can't help but think how easy it would be to use Sai's birds to take a good shot on Madara and Obito, especially now that they're disconnected with the Juubi.

Edited by sushi., 23 January 2013 - 09:04 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 23 2013, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the essence of the anger here is the fear that Sakura will just remain in the background until the battle is over. This might not be the final fight, but it's the fight with the fate of the world at stake so given that Sakura is basically Naruto's closest friend, plus the fact that she herself said they were going to fight together it makes the most sense for her to be along side Naruto in this monumental fight.

The fight with Sasuke will be something that Naruto does alone, this is the only fight that where they can fight together against adversity, so it would be a huge disappointment for Kishi to leave Sakura out just like that. And that's why I believe that she will appear sooner or later. If the battle ends and she doesn't make anything important then I won't know what to think of Kishimoto anymore. It would be the hugest betrayal he could possibly give to Sakura, and that's why I can't believe he would actually dare to do something like that.

Kishimoto spent so much time building up Naruto and Sakura's bond. The reason she chose to become Tsunade's apprentice was because she wanted to be helpful to Naruto. If Sakura can't at least be of some direct assistance in this deciding fight then Kishi would truly be spitting in Sakura's face.

On one hand it worries me that Kishi is simply looking for an excuse to not use Sakura, which is why he suddenly made Tsunade state that a medical ninja can't be in the front lines. But on the other hand I can't believe that Kishi would be that disrespectful to his heroine. Sakura's whole aspiration for which she endured the rough training of one of the Sannin was for the sake of being able to help Naruto, but if she doesn't get involved in this fight it would be like saying that Sakura's aspirations were not really important in the first place.

Sakura didn't train for nearly three years just to have her climax at healing people in the background. Which is why I'll hold to be believe that she will indeed have a big role, if she doesn't then Kishi has utterly failed as a writer.

I also refuse to believe that her big moment can only come when Sasuke appears. I mean, what exactly would she do? Sasuke is Naruto's opponent. Her big moment will be to fight someone from Taka? As interesting as that can sound I would feel so disappointed that Kishi would purposely leave her out of the fight with the Juubi (destroyer of worlds) just for that. Not to mention that she said she would fight together with Naruto along side everyone. I don't know about any of you but I refuse to accept the concept that fighting together simply means healing in the background.

Maybe Kishi just used Sakura in 573 to emphasize how all of the army was going to help him, but if that was the case then why on earth mention how she as an individual would be together with him. Wouldn't it had made more sense if she said "Naruto, don't worry, I'll heal anyone in trouble with my medical jutsu. I'll make sure the whole army fights together with you". Sakura's role in the background would make more sense that way.

It would all just be stupid if Sakura doesn't fight this time. She trains for years in order to help Naruto, but it culminates in her being on the background and not being relevant to Naruto in any way. The reason I believe Sakura will fight is because I can't possibly believe Kishi would be that monumentally stupid and inconsiderate with his own heroine.

Yes that's the problem it's not about pairings my faith in NS remains the same it's just I don't care about it if Sakura doesn't get decent development, pairings are the least of my concern at this point Sakura has to play an important role now in this battle but I still think the writing is bad even if Kishi has something amazing in store it doesn't excuse her exclusion up to this point.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Jan 23 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes that's the problem it's not about pairings my faith in NS remains the same it's just I don't care about it if Sakura doesn't get decent development, pairings are the least of my concern at this point Sakura has to play an important role now in this battle but I still think the writing is bad even if Kishi has something amazing in store it doesn't excuse her exclusion up to this point.


What if there's a point as to why we haven't seen her for awhile, though? huh.gif

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Jan 23 2013, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty shallow that it took a death to even allow Naruto and Hinata to get closer


Pretty shallow that we have some talking about Tsunade possible death having a big effect on NS to a point where we are hopping that it outshines NH moment after Neji's death. dry.gif

Also I'm a bit frustrated with the behavior that some of us have, it's almost like little kids complaining to their parent that the want to see Barney!

About the Manga.
I could be wrong but I doubt Sakura will make a speech in chapter 573 but then run off to Tsunade, if this happen we will get a flashback of Naruto and Kakashi asking her to go check out the Kages.

Sakura healing fodders is silly because at lease Kishi should show the readers that she is doing that with out having two chapter with out her.

Sakura going to meet up with Sasuke, pardon my French but I think that is the most st**idest scenario someone could ever imagine, Sakura knows that gating in his way might get her killed by him or any other enemy.

For me Sakura could definitely be part of Shikamaru's plan and showing her now will just kill the element of surprise, building up to the moment is just telling us that the plan is destine to fail, when ever we being shown what the goods guys are planing to do with the bad guys, most of the times it fails.

Finally, we saw Sakura in chapter 611, 613, 614, and 615 just gating panel time, 616 reaffirming to the readers that she and Naruto are the heroes and also they are the ones who will be there to save everyone when all hopes are lost, but there was no Sakura and 617 Kishi make sure to let everyone knows that Sakura was MIA, meaning that he purposely removed her for some reason and I really doubt it has anything to do with him being tired of her character otherwise he would of kill her off a long time ago.

About Hinata, what the hell, 615 was a big moment for NH and we clearly see that there was no fallow up either by Naruto or Hinata herself, right now Hinata is acting more like a friend rather than a love hopeless plus she said that after the war she is done chasing him for good.

Why is so hard to wait for Sakura to shine after the Author just stated that all our favorite characters will shine? I'm pretty sure he is fulfilling his words just like he said in that movie interview.

Kishi as stated again on again that Sakura is the heroine, we will get her time she is by far the female with the most focus on this Manga and later down this story many hater will be tired of her focus and our side will look like silly people for winning all the times Hinata shows up and Sakura doesn't, the story is about Naruto and he gets the same treatment, what makes Sakura any special? This manga is not about Sakura is about Naruto we are acting as if she being treated like Ten Ten or Shino.

Right now most of Sakura development is about her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke something we already know but we refuse to accept, Kishi already made a big mess with her confession and I'm afraid they cannot act anymore like if nothing ever happen (sakura likes Naruto and Naruto loves her plus they are Main char. they need a resolution, Sakura will get her great moment but for now it might not be with Naruto until all side characters are out of the way.

We all want more Sakura, but at lease wait for the side characters to get their development, if that happen and there is still no Sakura, then we have all rights to question Kishi's doing.

Edited by Don-kun, 23 January 2013 - 09:15 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 23 2013, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that's why I say that we would still wait until the end of the battle. Sakura will be the last one who will shine. No way she's going to where are the kage... She said in 573 "We'll be together with everyone..." She still around here, Kishi has something in mind for her. We only wait to see what's his purpose regarding her.

No way that he shows tenten and Akamaru in kyuubi mode and still avoiding Sakura now until the battle. This shows that Kishi has something in mind, I know that we still think about this for years ma this's a battle where everyone want to fight toghether with Naruto for protecting the entire world, not only just Naruto and Bee. Sakura states this, this's a battle which will decide the shinobi world's destiny.

Obito and Madara still here, free by the Juubi, the battle is only at the beginning...
The juubi still have another transformation...

Let's see where is going Kishi here.... We're all frustrating but it's better to wait until the end of the battle. Afterwards we will would give our judments...

Btw Sai is important, he's part of team 7. Of course he isn't important as Sakura but still stay important. Sakura is here on the battlefield, Sai in flight. Maybe they're part of the plan or something...




Exactly, it's way to early to judge right now. We know Sakura is going to be last, so lets just wait a little longer.
We don't know what Kishimoto has up his sleeve in regards to our Sakura-Chan.
She could be missing for a reason, in fact this is probably all apart of Shikamaru's Dad's plan.
Last chapter this fandom was reassured by the color spread that Sakura is and always will be the heroine, that doesn't change with chapter 617.
Don't freak out when Hinata gets one little panel, Sakura is still the heroine, her time will come. smile.gif


QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 23 2013, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHAT IF!!!

sakura is in the other dimension but isn't attacking obito because shes WAITING!!

think about it....if sakura attacks obito and doesn't get a good shot...then obito would discover she's there and take her out.

so she has one shot and is waiting for him to transport a good portion of his torso or something...


.........am i going crazy?


That would be amazing!
I also want Sakura to land a hit on Mr. 10-tails! biggrin.gif

I know our girl has to be doing something, & when she appears its guaranteed to be something incredible. love.gif

Edited by That Uchiha, 23 January 2013 - 09:14 PM.

 
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

So, more and more, the possibility of Sakura and Sai are in Kamui waiting to hit Obito at the right time seems the right idea. But, still, no one knows for sure.
Though, the fact that Naruto's teammates are not shown, means that there's something in store for them.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Jan 23 2013, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty shallow that we have some talking about Tsunade possible death having a big effect on NS to a point where we are hopping that it outshines NH moment after Neji's death. dry.gif

Hope your not talking about me... cause I never once stated I support that theory mellow.gif (I think that's stupid honestly)

Otherwise, I agree with everything

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 23 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what I'm thinking that could probably redeem Sakura? The Alliance all getting very hurt and Sakura getting some real badass power-up and heal them all. Otherwise, I don't see any way that Sakura's character can be redeemed.

That would be great, I like the idea more than her being in Obito's dimension.

QUOTE (Qia @ Jan 23 2013, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What if there's a point as to why we haven't seen her for awhile, though? huh.gif

It still is bad writing that's not a good way to write your story and characters.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Jan 23 2013, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That would be great, I like the idea more than her being in Obito's dimension.


It still is bad writing that's not a good way to write your story and characters.


But...let's just say for the sake of this argument that Sakura IS really in another dimension with Sai. If it's supposed to be a surprise, then why would he give that away now? What I'm basically trying to say is this: We haven't exactly seen this entire battle yet, so why are we already complaining that she's being ignored if we don't even know yet if she's doing something important?

Edited by Qia, 23 January 2013 - 09:22 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Jan 23 2013, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hope your not talking about me... cause I never once stated I support that theory mellow.gif (I think that's stupid honestly)

Otherwise, I agree with everything

He's probably talking about me. laugh.gif

Well then.. I never said Tsunade's death would be the NS trump card. If I did, please quote the exact post, because I don't remember. They will comfort eachother and begome closer for sure, but they won't become canon because of it. Because they have something more, only themselves can bring them together. a death will not be the base of their marriage. I am just following the logic of some NH fans. If NH became canon this way, Tsunade's death will outshine it. Some say "Neji brought them together" and I've even heard that they'll name their kid after him LOL..

What a love story..
Neji 2: mother, how did you and father get together?
Hinata: Well..Neji 1 died, it was kind of a bloody version of the red thread of fate.

Edited by sushi., 23 January 2013 - 09:35 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (Qia @ Jan 23 2013, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But...let's just say for the sake of this argument that Sakura IS really in another dimension with Sai. If it's supposed to be a surprise, then why would he give that away now? What I'm basically trying to say is this: We haven't exactly seen this entire battle yet, so why are we already complaining that she's being ignored if we don't even know yet if she's doing something important?

There's no build up or foreshadowing for that, I don't want something out of the blue. I think I made it clear why I think it's bad writing if you're satisfied with that good for you but I'm not, the hinata crap was bad enough. And anyway Sakura should have received focus far earlier than that.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

Oh by the way guys. I have a question about Naruto's dislocated shoulder. Correct me if I'm wrong but...the real Naruto hadn't moved from where he was before, and it was his clones that distributed the chakra, right? I can't remember if he had moved after he'd gotten the injury (and my internet's slow so I can't check). Would the clones have this same injury? And if not, would that help to explain why he hadn't pointed it out until now? Now that he was actually moving? And that's probably why he hadn't left Hinata's side, because he couldn't move? And had simply forgotten as he got caught up in things and only recently remembered? Does this make sense? huh.gif

Edited by Qia, 23 January 2013 - 09:33 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

Hinata

You relocated my shoulder



Just like how you relocated my heart



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:35 PM

[quote name='StriderC' date='Jan 23 2013, 12:47 PM' post='432614']
So I drew Sakura in a Kyuubi cloak. I'm gonna post that kitten today and call that my Sakura fix for now. I didn't draw her in that Konoha attire. I drew her in her own attired, and I must say it's pretty badass. She's even wearing her forehead protector on her forehead means she's equal to Naruto. biggrin.gif

I'm really starting not to even care about pairings anymore given the constant shoving of Hinata down my throat, the lack of NS interaction even though it's bound to happen eventually, and the lack of Sakura period. It's really just flat out annoying that he's deliberately excluding her. I mean, what's going to be the big reveal when it comes to her and how will her skills be used because i honestly don't even know. The only thing that I can think of her strength increasing drastically because I think if her punches get upgraded her strength is gonna evolve farther than what Rock Lee and Guy are dealing.


omg! post the picture of sakura in the kyuubi cloak. biggrin.gif

can you also color the picture strider?




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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Jan 23 2013, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's no build up or foreshadowing for that, I don't want something out of the blue. I think I made it clear why I think it's bad writing if you're satisfied with that good for you but I'm not, the hinata crap was bad enough. And anyway Sakura should have received focus far earlier than that.


Okay fine. But what if there's a reason for why she hasn't been given much focus that we'll find out later on? It's just that...I can't understand why people are complaining NOW, when we haven't seen everything there is to see yet. If later chapters don't help to clear up all of this, then I can understand why there should be a complaint. But this whole battle with the alliance and Obidara ( tongue.gif) only just started to me, and people are already complaining. Idk ...maybe I'm just sick of it all ;-;. The complaining. And the relentless bashing coming from both sides of this whole Naruto fandom. I don't mean to single anyone out, but I just needed to get that out.

Edited by Qia, 23 January 2013 - 09:44 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

okay I read the chapter.
"Neji's death won't be in vain! Neji's spirit burns bright in all of us!"
Reading through some parts of this thread all I can say is pairing fans are loaded with double standards. I don't bother reading anything what the opposing pairing is saying, NOTHING.

Using the almost exclusive Neji's Gentle Fist, Hinata was nearby; she can SEE his dislocated shoulder and accurately fix Nauto's shoulder in mid battle formation; they're in the middle of actually fighting! Why would Sakura show up--out of NO WHERE to make Naruto stop, in mid motion mind you, and heal him? It would make no sense! Hinata was the logical choice, it went with the whole Neji' burn bright in all of us comment. If it matters to some, Naruto's focus was on Lee's present action and not on Hinata fixing his shoulder.

The question becomes : Is their interaction ( N x H) a romantic gesture and the answer is NO.

Sakura will have her time, I just wish it will be AWESOME for ME/US who are her fans, not her enemies/haters because they will deny it, bash it and downgrade it, but for me/us.
The chapter was almost exciting.

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