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[nsfan17]

I was at that narusaku manifesto and noticed that person wrote some things regarding naruhina as well. particularly the "disliking naruhina as a hinata fan article." it notes how hinata was the first person to acknowledge naruto and to admire him and to relate to him. does this affect narusaku's chances?

[CloudMountainJuror]

I was at that narusaku manifesto and noticed that person wrote some things regarding naruhina as well. particularly the "disliking naruhina as a hinata fan article." it notes how hinata was the first person to acknowledge naruto and to admire him and to relate to him. does this affect narusaku's chances?

Hinata was first, yes, but that doesn't mean she'll win the race so to speak. Especially not at this rate.

[RedDelicious]

Well, I've made the argument before that Hinata may have acknowledged Naruto first, but not for best reasons that some think. I'm going to point an unflattering light on Hinata, which is harsher than what I think about her, but I think contains a grain of truth.

Hinata used to support Naruto as the loser who doesn't let his failures keep him down. She got to feel pity for him, as he was the only member of their class to be below her (in her mind). She is most vocal (in support) when she thinks he is about to lose, is usually surprised when he manages to win, and stays away from him when he is celebrating his victory. Think about the Pein fight. She only stepped in when she thought he had lost, and she was not trying to rescue him. Her (in her own words, selfish) purpose was to show that she could fight a losing (suicidal) battle in support of someone important to her. (I think that after her confession, she is probably in a healthier state of mind and has more self-confidence.)

That's why I like Sakura better. Even when she thought she hated Naruto, she enjoyed when he did pranks, or something clever in combat, or when he showed his strength. When she yells at Naruto to keep fighting, it is because she expects him to win, despite the odds. At the same time, she does not want him to suffer to achieve his goals. (She tried to stop Naruto when she saw what going 4-tails was doing to him.)

Think back to the hospital scene in chapter 236, when Sakura was outside Naruto's door. At the time, it seemed pretty obvious that she was broken up because Sasuke wasn't coming back. But now, I wonder... She went looking for Naruto first, not Sasuke. Her hesitation could have been due to Naruto's pain, not her own loss. She had seen Naruto beaten, but rarely seen him fail. She came to celebrate with Naruto in his triumph, and now had to console him. She then tried to reassure him the same way that he had done so many times for her (but she thought was sarcastic taunting in the past): she put on a big grin and cracked jokes instead of showing her sorrow. And when she saw that his spirit was back, she did *not* say "you'll get him next time" or "I'll take care of it while you are in the hospital". She said, we'll do it *together*.

Edited by RedDelicious, 30 September 2011 - 02:30 PM.

[Fenris]

Tbh, about that whole thing sonicsucks posted, I just have a few words to say. The show is called Naruto, not Sasuke.

And,

Think back to the hospital scene in chapter 236, when Sakura was outside Naruto's door. At the time, it seemed pretty obvious that she was broken up because Sasuke wasn't coming back. But now, I wonder... She went looking for Naruto first, not Sasuke. Her hesitation could have been due to Naruto's pain, not her own loss. She had seen Naruto beaten, but rarely seen him fail. She came to celebrate with Naruto in his triumph, and now had to console him. She then tried to reassure him the same way that he had done so many times for her (but she thought was sarcastic taunting in the past): she put on a big grin and cracked jokes instead of showing her sorrow. And when she saw that his spirit was back, she did *not* say "you'll get him next time" or "I'll take care of it while you are in the hospital". She said, we'll do it *together*.

She also thought of Naruto first when she was fighting with Sasori and caught in the poison fog. He was her determination to get out, because she remembered "her promise."

Edited by iamfenris, 30 September 2011 - 03:40 PM.

[Anguyen92]

I was at that narusaku manifesto and noticed that person wrote some things regarding naruhina as well. particularly the "disliking naruhina as a hinata fan article." it notes how hinata was the first person to acknowledge naruto and to admire him and to relate to him. does this affect narusaku's chances?

Not necessarily, it does not really matter who was first to acknowledge and admire and all of that stuff. Its pretty much who the person was that wants and tries to actually help you, spend time with, and love, sometimes in a non-intimate way. I mean, you know, despite Hinata acknowledging Naruto first, what did she do to help him, in a feelings manner?

I mean let's face it, how many people here, who are in current relationships, had the actual person hate you at first, but after spending a good amount of time together, that they see who you were as a person, and grown to like you very much?

[Fenris]

Well, I've made the argument before that Hinata may have acknowledged Naruto first, but not for best reasons that some think. I'm going to point an unflattering light on Hinata, which is harsher than what I think about her, but I think contains a grain of truth.

Hinata used to support Naruto as the loser who doesn't let his failures keep him down. She got to feel pity for him, as he was the only member of their class to be below her (in her mind). She is most vocal (in support) when she thinks he is about to lose, is usually surprised when he manages to win, and stays away from him when he is celebrating his victory. Think about the Pein fight. She only stepped in when she thought he had lost, and she was not trying to rescue him. Her (in her own words, selfish) purpose was to show that she could fight a losing (suicidal) battle in support of someone important to her. (I think that after her confession, she is probably in a healthier state of mind and has more self-confidence.)

That's why I like Sakura better. Even when she thought she hated Naruto, she enjoyed when he did pranks, or something clever in combat, or when he showed his strength. When she yells at Naruto to keep fighting, it is because she expects him to win, despite the odds. At the same time, she does not want him to suffer to achieve his goals. (She tried to stop Naruto when she saw what going 4-tails was doing to him.)

Think back to the hospital scene in chapter 236, when Sakura was outside Naruto's door. At the time, it seemed pretty obvious that she was broken up because Sasuke wasn't coming back. But now, I wonder... She went looking for Naruto first, not Sasuke. Her hesitation could have been due to Naruto's pain, not her own loss. She had seen Naruto beaten, but rarely seen him fail. She came to celebrate with Naruto in his triumph, and now had to console him. She then tried to reassure him the same way that he had done so many times for her (but she thought was sarcastic taunting in the past): she put on a big grin and cracked jokes instead of showing her sorrow. And when she saw that his spirit was back, she did *not* say "you'll get him next time" or "I'll take care of it while you are in the hospital". She said, we'll do it *together*.

Not necessarily, it does not really matter who was first to acknowledge and admire and all of that stuff. Its pretty much who the person was that wants and tries to actually help you, spend time with, and love, sometimes in a non-intimate way. I mean, you know, despite Hinata acknowledging Naruto first, what did she do to help him, in a feelings manner?

I mean let's face it, how many people here, who are in current relationships, had the actual person hate you at first, but after spending a good amount of time together, that they see who you were as a person, and grown to like you very much?

Well, I haven't had people feel that way about me before, but I've felt that way about other people. I used to hate a few people I used to know, but now I really care about them.

[Phantom_999]

I don't see SS as being likely, but I suppose I'd be lying if I said I couldn't see it happening (of course, it would require a lot of imagination to see it XD)

I do believe NS is Kishi's intended pairing.


Howdy! XD Unrequited love, I mean towards Sasuke

Yeah I know I was talking about she has Naruto who returns her feelings

Edited by Phantom_999, 30 September 2011 - 07:55 PM.

[Fenris]

What is this and why do I like it so much. It's from an episode right? Shannnarrroo.

[Anguyen92]

^^ Either that came from an episode, or someone, from deviantart, is really a good f'en drawer and probably had some animator buddies spruces something up.

[Fenris]

Hmm. The only thing is, it came from a Tumblr naruto .gif maker who gif's episodes. The tag said "filler."

And by the way, I can also see something like this happening..

Edited by iamfenris, 01 October 2011 - 01:22 AM.

[Amy-chan]

What is this and why do I like it so much. It's from an episode right? Shannnarrroo.

Hehe, made me laugh.

[Fenris]

^^ Either that came from an episode, or someone, from deviantart, is really a good f'en drawer and probably had some animator buddies spruces something up.

Hehe, made me laugh.

Too bad, if it is real, then it's probably filler. D:

Edited by iamfenris, 01 October 2011 - 01:36 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

Well, I've made the argument before that Hinata may have acknowledged Naruto first, but not for best reasons that some think. I'm going to point an unflattering light on Hinata, which is harsher than what I think about her, but I think contains a grain of truth.

I love it when NH fans try to point this out XD I personally find it a weakness of the pairing that Hinata is supposedly able to understand Naruto so well from the start (and I do give them that she did, in some ways), yet she did nothing to help him. They say she watched him so closely that she knew the real Naruto, the boy underneath all the pranks. I say, then why didn't she help him? If Hinata really did know him, she would have known how desperately lonely he was. She would have gotten past her shyness and tried to talk to him, since she 'knew' how he felt. Hinata had a head start on Sakura to be someone really special to Naruto. She didn't use her golden opportunity and I think that is what cost her any close relationship with him.

[merryGOflava]

What is this and why do I like it so much. It's from an episode right? Shannnarrroo.

filler in fact it was the episode that sasuke and naruto got stuck together :3

[catsi563]

Well, I've made the argument before that Hinata may have acknowledged Naruto first, but not for best reasons that some think

I love this argument too because its blatantly untrue. The first person to acknowledge Naruto was the Third Hokage, and the first one to openly acknowledge him was Iruka in the very first chapter.

[Phantom_999]

Well, I've made the argument before that Hinata may have acknowledged Naruto first, but not for best reasons that some think. I'm going to point an unflattering light on Hinata, which is harsher than what I think about her, but I think contains a grain of truth.

Hinata used to support Naruto as the loser who doesn't let his failures keep him down. She got to feel pity for him, as he was the only member of their class to be below her (in her mind). She is most vocal (in support) when she thinks he is about to lose, is usually surprised when he manages to win, and stays away from him when he is celebrating his victory. Think about the Pein fight. She only stepped in when she thought he had lost, and she was not trying to rescue him. Her (in her own words, selfish) purpose was to show that she could fight a losing (suicidal) battle in support of someone important to her. (I think that after her confession, she is probably in a healthier state of mind and has more self-confidence.)

That's why I like Sakura better. Even when she thought she hated Naruto, she enjoyed when he did pranks, or something clever in combat, or when he showed his strength. When she yells at Naruto to keep fighting, it is because she expects him to win, despite the odds. At the same time, she does not want him to suffer to achieve his goals. (She tried to stop Naruto when she saw what going 4-tails was doing to him.)

Think back to the hospital scene in chapter 236, when Sakura was outside Naruto's door. At the time, it seemed pretty obvious that she was broken up because Sasuke wasn't coming back. But now, I wonder... She went looking for Naruto first, not Sasuke. Her hesitation could have been due to Naruto's pain, not her own loss. She had seen Naruto beaten, but rarely seen him fail. She came to celebrate with Naruto in his triumph, and now had to console him. She then tried to reassure him the same way that he had done so many times for her (but she thought was sarcastic taunting in the past): she put on a big grin and cracked jokes instead of showing her sorrow. And when she saw that his spirit was back, she did *not* say "you'll get him next time" or "I'll take care of it while you are in the hospital". She said, we'll do it *together*.

I'd like to add to that if you don't mind and this will STING NH fans but must be said none the less. *Ahem* SHE NEVER, I REPEAT, NEVER VOICED HER ENCOURAGEMENT DIRECTLY TO NARUTO IN PART ONE NOR SHOWED ANY PHYSICAL SUPPORT. SO IT'S WORTH ZIP. NIL. NADA. If she Had, like Sakura did and Narto noticed and appreciated it, well there is your foundation and argument. But NO such luck.

Edited by Phantom_999, 01 October 2011 - 02:40 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

What is this and why do I like it so much. It's from an episode right? Shannnarrroo.

It is from a episode where Naruto is talking about how he could make Sakura fall in love with him after he got stronger by mastering the first original rasangan.. ohhh how we love the old Naruto.

[Fenris]

Actually, something more like this:

http://ladygt93.devi...a...0&offset=33

Yeah. I really hope that whole forehead conversation comes up again soon. I really don't think Kishi would of made it if he didn't intend to go somewhere with it in the future.

[Fenris]

Me too. I am most certain that this will come up before the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. The forehead scene will probably be the final push for NS. Can't wait til the Naruto vs Sasuke fight!

I really hope so. What makes you think it'll be before the Naruto-Sasuke fight? I'm curious to know. I'm not caught up on the manga so I might of been missing somethings.

[Anguyen92]

Well, I always imagined that before naruto left to fight sasuke Sakura will tell him not to leave because she doesn't want him to die and naruto makes another Promise to her that he will come back alive. *Note that when jirayai left to go investigate in the hidden rain village he makes a bet with tsunade that he will die (since she always loses) and she is crying and doesn't want him to go, but in the end he does die* Then sakura asks if she can come with him but he says no cause it's too dangerous. Then sakura is crying about how she thinks she's useless and naruto kisses her forehead and tells her she's not and the whole bench scene is brought up again. To answer your question, one of the major themes of the story is surpassing the generation right? I feel like Narusaku is the next gen of jiratsu but the only difference is that NS is going down the right path. P.S. I hope you can understand this cause sometimes I even get lost in my own comments.

Yep, I understand the text. With the whole surpassing the next generation, Naruto must do the things that Jiriaya himself could not do before he died. Manage to be with the girl he loves and bring peace to the world. And yep, it would be nice if the things above were to happen. It just seems right, before the inevitable battle between Naruto and Sasuke happens.

Can't wait to see how this turns out. Kishi has yet to disappoint me in a chapter and I'll be damned if he do it for the first time by blowing the narusaku moment before the battle with Sasuke.

Edited by Anguyen92, 01 October 2011 - 05:04 AM.