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[TouKen4Life3g]

they leave after they fullfill their job, their job was to rescue both naruto and sakura, but after witnessing such opponent and naruto refused to retreat they just take sakura out of that fighting and leave.
leave naruto and menma on a showdown.

@it was like when menma went full force they thought "kitten just got real"

And how Sakura got out of Akatsuki?

[merryGOflava]

When Naruto saves Sakura princess style, did that scene looked romantic and what was Sakura's reaction.

not expecting anything :o but i kinda wanna know ^ this too

>w> though i expect he just saved her fast.

[Don-kun]

^^
Me to lol, I want full detail about NS. The movie God first I can see it later when it becomes avealeble.

I'm curious how that shows, we don't see her express any warmth toward Sakura in the Road to Ninja special, and I heard she mocked Sakura publically about her lack of household skills in the movie... Plus look at how Sakura was when she started the Academy- tearful, afraid of everything. It's not until Ino has an influence on Sakura for some time that we start to see her change. Also Sakura's crushingly low self-esteem, still. I saw the way Mebuki acted toward Sakura and could see why Sakura developed a mother/daughter bond with Tsunade, who is a more balanced tsundere- hot tempered, but recognized and acknowledged Sakura's achievements.

We are all NaruSaku fans here, let try not to question dovahkiin he saw the movie and we need his opinion, I think his reply will be 100% more accurate than all the spoilers we got since he is an 100% NS fan.

Edited by NS means logic, 13 August 2012 - 11:45 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm curious how that shows, we don't see her express any warmth toward Sakura in the Road to Ninja special, and I heard she mocked Sakura publically about her lack of household skills in the movie... Plus look at how Sakura was when she started the Academy- tearful, afraid of everything. It's not until Ino has an influence on Sakura for some time that we start to see her change. Also Sakura's crushingly low self-esteem, still. I saw the way Mebuki acted toward Sakura and could see why Sakura developed a mother/daughter bond with Tsunade, who is a more balanced tsundere- hot tempered, but recognized and acknowledged Sakura's achievements.

she's not mocked publicy her mother after in the middle of all her mother asks her to wash the dishes but she chooses to leave her house and bump into naruto ,they were fighting but it's the idea that i get, paolo did not translated this for me i could be wrong.
I think u dont get it when said they are in constant fighting
this is proved when she says "that's enough" naruto(without naruto noticing) and kushina act the same way in the movie not with the jokes or other stuff but naruto behavior towards his parents, back in the academy days sakura just hae any determination and get it with Ino first and later with Naruto.
her relationship with tsunade is respectfull like a master and student, just look at the first chapters of the shippuuden.

i'm going to add some stuff here, i understand ur way of thinking ciardha but sakura is different than naruto , kushina does hit and yells on naruto when he act stupid but sakura does not act stupid, but she fight with her parents she say this in the 3rd chapter of the manga, in the end she apologies and hugs them, this show mebuki warm hearth.

i think u should know this when parents are dealing with "rebel" kids they sometimes mock or make jokes, ending her conflitous relatioship with her parents, u're reading the novel i think u will see it on the ending.
but again we have to separate things on the manga and this movies because i could not connect the movie with the manga.

Edited by dovahkiin, 14 August 2012 - 12:08 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

^^
Me to lol, I want full detail about NS. The movie God first I can see it later when it becomes avealeble.




We are all NaruSaku fans here, let try not to question dovahkiin he saw the movie and we need his opinion, I think his reply will be 100% more accurate than all the spoilers we got since he is an 100% NS fan.

I like the fact that Kushina teases Naruto about his feelings for Sakura and he's like that time when Sai asked him if he loves her.

I hope we're not pushing you a lot, dovahkiin. Take all the time you want.

[Branden]

I like the fact that Kushina teases Naruto about his feelings for Sakura and he's like that time when Sai asked him if he loves her.

I hope we're not pushing you a lot, dovahkiin. Take all the time you want.

"the fact"

So its 100% confirmed that Kushina is teasing Naruto about his feelings for Sakura. Good to know. But I must ask, how do you know this?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

well guys i'll sleep it's 22:00 PM i'll be back tomorrow.

[ciardha]

We are all NaruSaku fans here, let try not to question dovahkiin he saw the movie and we need his opinion, I think his reply will be 100% more accurate than all the spoilers we got since he is an 100% NS fan.

NSML, I wasn't questioning the details he reported from the movie, I was just asking where Mebuki showed any warmhearted feelings toward Sakura, he didn't say, and none of the movie summaries we've seen said anyything about that. One of the movie summarizers on NF said that Mebuki mocked Sakura publically about her lack of household skills (that makes me feel slightly better if that person on NF was lying).

But the point does still stand with manga evidence and also evidenced in Mebuki's lack of warmth toward Sakura in the Road to Sakura special, that Mebuki was a tsuntsun mother not a tsundere mother. It's distinctly not normal for a child to be that tearful and frightened of everyone with a crushing lack of self-esteem. (One only has to look at Hinata to see another, but less extreme example of this playing out because of an uber critical parent who doesn't believe in their child. Remember what Minato says to Naruto in the manga about parents supporting and believing in their children. We also have Sakura's hint that her inner self's persona was created to survive - from who? I think the answer points back to Mebuki, who was far too harsh and critical to Sakura, probably because, despite the fact she loves her husband, Sakura was too much like Kizashi, which unfortunately created a vicious circle, (until Ino helps Sakura develop the foundation of her strength) Mebuki even says in Road to Sakura- Sakura is "like her father"... I think, and it sounds like dovahkiin touches on, Kizashi is a passive parent who didn't stand up for Sakura when Mebuki was tearing into Sakura, but as kind of hinted at in Road to Sakura, Kizashi has a compassionate nature and would try to make his upset daughter feel better by telling really corny jokes, and buying her things afterwards.

Mebuki shows her lack of belief and support of Sakura by refusing to give the permission for Sakura to become Jonin. Kazashi doesn't stand up for Sakura, so it makes her feel neither parent believes in her or supports her. This is why Sakura developed a mother/daughter like bond with Tsunade. Tsunade believes in and supports Sakura. Tsunade took the role Mebuki is unable to. Tsunade doesn't mollycoddle Sakura, she trained her hard, but she believed Sakura had the capabilities, and Sakura showed she did. (Sakura's bond with Tsunade is meant to parallel Naruto's with Jiraiya's- except Tsunade was a more dedicated teacher. Tsunade got Sakura to be confident in her abilities, and built on her self-esteem at the same time.) The master-student bond, if the student is a child, if healthy, does replicate a good parent/child bond...

So perhaps Mebuki has a strong will with lack of compassion while Kizashi has strong compassion but a weak will. Sakura gradually became strong willed but also has her father's strong compassion, the blend of those two things created the "will of fire" in Sakura her parents lack.

Edited by ciardha, 14 August 2012 - 12:47 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

"the fact"

So its 100% confirmed that Kushina is teasing Naruto about his feelings for Sakura. Good to know. But I must ask, how do you know this?

Check this thread. I think it's 3 pages back. Dovahkiin, who saw the movie, told us about it.

@dovahkiin: Thanks a lot. See you tomorrow.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 14 August 2012 - 12:17 AM.

[4000TMNT]

The more NaruSaku moments we find in the movie, the more impossible that any other pairing that is not NaruSaku can be canon. I mean come on, Kushina is teasing Naruto about his feeling for Sakura, what more do you want.

[Transformers03]

The more NaruSaku moments we find in the movie, the more impossible that any other pairing that is not NaruSaku can be canon. I mean come on, Kushina is teasing Naruto about his feeling for Sakura, what more do you want.

For them to actually get together.

[merryGOflava]

For them to actually get together.

lol XD i heard dat!

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

NSML, I wasn't questioning the details he reported from the movie, I was just asking where Mebuki showed any warmhearted feelings toward Sakura, he didn't say, and none of the movie summaries we've seen said anyything about that. One of the movie summarizers on NF said that Mebuki mocked Sakura publically about her lack of household skills (that makes me feel slightly better if that person on NF was lying).

But the point does still stand with manga evidence and also evidenced in Mebuki's lack of warmth toward Sakura in the Road to Sakura special, that Mebuki was a tsuntsun mother not a tsundere mother. It's distinctly not normal for a child to be that tearful and frightened of everyone with a crushing lack of self-esteem. (One only has to look at Hinata to see another, but less extreme example of this playing out because of an uber critical parent who doesn't believe in their child. Remember what Minato says to Naruto in the manga about parents supporting and believing in their children. We also have Sakura's hint that her inner self's persona was created to survive - from who? I think the answer points back to Mebuki, who was far too harsh and critical to Sakura, probably because, despite the fact she loves her husband, Sakura was too much like Kizashi, which unfortunately created a vicious circle, (until Ino helps Sakura develop the foundation of her strength) Mebuki even says in Road to Sakura- Sakura is "like her father"... I think, and it sounds like dovahkiin touches on, Kizashi is a passive parent who didn't stand up for Sakura when Mebuki was tearing into Sakura, but as kind of hinted at in Road to Sakura, Kizashi has a compassionate nature and would try to make his upset daughter feel better by telling really corny jokes, and buying her things afterwards.

So perhaps Mebuki has a strong will with lack of compassion while Kizashi has strong compassion but a weak will. Sakura gradually became strong willed but also has her father's strong compassion, the blend of those two things created the "will of fire" in Sakura her parents lack.

she shows warm hearted but since they both are in constant fighting and due to the lack of screen time, we cant see it earlier and the only one manga evidence we got it's her complaining about the things her parents asks her to do.
for me sakura has a decent amount of guilty in that explosive relationship wich is fixed at the ending.

due to the lesson that she learns though the movie, looks like it's her that needs to change and not her parents.
one things certain is they do not have the will of fire, naruto infected sakura with this virus.

[Don-kun]

NSML, I wasn't questioning the details he reported from the movie, I was just asking where Mebuki showed any warmhearted feelings toward Sakura, he didn't say, and none of the movie summaries we've seen said anyything about that. One of the movie summarizers on NF said that Mebuki mocked Sakura publically about her lack of household skills (that makes me feel slightly better if that person on NF was lying).

But the point does still stand with manga evidence and also evidenced in Mebuki's lack of warmth toward Sakura in the Road to Sakura special, that Mebuki was a tsuntsun mother not a tsundere mother. It's distinctly not normal for a child to be that tearful and frightened of everyone with a crushing lack of self-esteem. (One only has to look at Hinata to see another, but less extreme example of this playing out because of an uber critical parent who doesn't believe in their child. Remember what Minato says to Naruto in the manga about parents supporting and believing in their children. We also have Sakura's hint that her inner self's persona was created to survive - from who? I think the answer points back to Mebuki, who was far too harsh and critical to Sakura, probably because, despite the fact she loves her husband, Sakura was too much like Kizashi, which unfortunately created a vicious circle, (until Ino helps Sakura develop the foundation of her strength) Mebuki even says in Road to Sakura- Sakura is "like her father"... I think, and it sounds like dovahkiin touches on, Kizashi is a passive parent who didn't stand up for Sakura when Mebuki was tearing into Sakura, but as kind of hinted at in Road to Sakura, Kizashi has a compassionate nature and would try to make his upset daughter feel better by telling really corny jokes, and buying her things afterwards.

So perhaps Mebuki has a strong will with lack of compassion while Kizashi has strong compassion but a weak will. Sakura gradually became strong willed but also has her father's strong compassion, the blend of those two things created the "will of fire" in Sakura her parents lack.

Just want to see a friendly spoiler without any doubt and if you trust him then I'm fine with it since you mention that you didn't easily trust anyone. So peace and love. Also can you compress your post a little I feel like a usualy get lost in them since they are too long, I will be grateful if you do that since I like reading your post, but after reading two I don't want to read anyone else post.

Edited by NS means logic, 14 August 2012 - 12:01 PM.

[Orenji]

Aww poor Dovah. Getting bombarded with questions.

I want to know where it seems that Mebuki is a hard parent? To me she seems to be just a mom who asks her child to do chores.

It's distinctly not normal for a child to be that tearful and frightened of everyone with a crushing lack of self-esteem. (One only has to look at Hinata to see another, but less extreme example of this playing out because of an uber critical parent who doesn't believe in their child.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sakura had low self-esteem because people picked on her for her forehead.. not because of lack of support from her parents. The only information about Sakura's relationship with her parents that I have is from the episode, as I have yet to see the movie and there has not been any chapter about them. I did not see anything that would suggest that Sakura thought her mom was overly critical or harsh.

So to me, from what I know, which I admit may not be all that there is out there, I think Sakura is a noraml teenager in that her parents ask her to do chores and she complains like they're the worst people in the world (haha, been there done that!). They probably love their daughter more than anything and did not want her to become a jonin because the missions are much higher ranked and she would be put in much more danger.

[Strangelove]

have these pictures been added yet?
http://www.pixiv.net...d...6813&page=1


SO MANY EDITS LATER: tried to add individual pics but just isn't working =_= if you have a pixiv account feel free to click the link....

Wuh O.O

Why is Tobi with a Dragon Ball?

Damn, if I knew they had those in the Naruto world, I would have gone there already >:O

[Paptala]

@dovahkiin Thanks so much for sharing details about the movie with us!! We all really appreciate it!

Can't wait until you come back to answer more questions of us demanding NS fans

I'm most excited about the fact that you confirmed that:

1. Kushina does indeed tease Naruto about Sakura, and that Naruto got all flustered (yay for subtle - or not so subtle - parental approval of NaruSaku)

2. Naruto saves Sakura bridal style - further strengthening the MinaKushi parallels

I'm glad that the movie left you with the impression that it did, that NaruSaku will be canon, and that Kishi's preferred family dynamics are reflected in Naruto and Sakura's relationship.

It reminds me of these posts I found on shipping confessions in tumblr:




It's interesting that both NS and anti-NS fans see the parallels, and acknowledge what it means for NaruSaku's potential to be canon And to think, these were out before the movie came out - I can only imagine people's reactions when it actually becomes available here online.

And can I say that I will be absolutely reveling in NaruSaku gif heaven? I cannot wait!

Edited by Paptala, 14 August 2012 - 01:59 AM.

[Malverstation]

Aww poor Dovah. Getting bombarded with questions.

I want to know where it seems that Mebuki is a hard parent? To me she seems to be just a mom who asks her child to do chores.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sakura had low self-esteem because people picked on her for her forehead.. not because of lack of support from her parents. The only information about Sakura's relationship with her parents that I have is from the episode, as I have yet to see the movie and there has not been any chapter about them. I did not see anything that would suggest that Sakura thought her mom was overly critical or harsh.

So to me, from what I know, which I admit may not be all that there is out there, I think Sakura is a noraml teenager in that her parents ask her to do chores and she complains like they're the worst people in the world (haha, been there done that!). They probably love their daughter more than anything and did not want her to become a jonin because the missions are much higher ranked and she would be put in much more danger.

^^ I was just about to reply with the same statement but saw you posted it first.

Kishimoto said Sakura has a normal teenager life. I can't name one teenager who did not butt heads with a or both parents. The point of the movie for Sakura was to appreciate her parents. If Her mom was really that bad, I am sure Kishimoto would have twisted things a bit differently.

[ciardha]

she shows warm hearted but since they both are in constant fighting and due to the lack of screen time, we cant see it earlier and the only one manga evidence we got it's her complaining about the things her parents asks her to do.

Ah, okay. I get where you are coming from. Chapter 3 where she is complaining to Sasuke about how strict her parents are...

If you'll indulge me here, I'll explain what gives me pause about that statement- that I see Sakura as underplaying things, not just complaining about normal parenting. It sounds very typical, but... We never hear Sakura complaining to anyone else about her parents, not until this version of Sakura in the movie, where she rants about them to Naruto (who doesn't understand at all due to not being raised by his parents... ) Sakura only tells two people who she feels enough trust in- neither boy understands though... I put that piece together with what we saw of Sakura personality prior and even sometime after her friendship with Ino. Sakura is even more crushed psychologically than Hinata was, she's also very fearful of adults that have authority over her, even at the start of part 1. Any criticism by those that she puts her trust in basically puts her into an emotional tailspin. It's too bad Kishimoto couldn't figure out a place to introduce Sakura's parents in part 1 like he did the majority of the kids. I think if fans in the west would have seen Mebuki verbally laying into part 1 Sakura it would have heightened sympathy for her. (she's always been far more popular in Japan than in the west, but that probably would have made her even more liked in Japan, out of sympathy).

Sakura complains but she's actually naively envious of Naruto being, as she would see it, free to be himself. Look at how minimal her "rebellion" is in the genjutsu world- she pigs out on her favorite food and doesn't clean up the mess. No real acting out or even pranks from what we've heard.

This also explains Sakura's overpowering wish for approval from those she cares about and how negative things they say to her still cuts her like a knife inside and makes her tear into herself.... It all goes back to her parents not believing in and supporting her...

We may still agree to disagree on this point but I just feel like Mebuki was meant to be similar to Hinata's father in how she views her child. Where Hinata's father changed after the Chunnin exams, Mebuki still doesn't believe in or support Sakura, and Kizashi won't challenge Mebuki because he's too passive. I think they need a bit of Naruto's "talk-no-jutsu"

[Gravenimage]

Ah, okay. I get where you are coming from. Chapter 3 where she is complaining to Sasuke about how strict her parents are...

If you'll indulge me here, I'll explain what gives me pause about that statement- that I see Sakura as underplaying things, not just complaining about normal parenting. It sounds very typical, but... We never hear Sakura complaining to anyone else about her parents, not until this version of Sakura in the movie, where she rants about them to Naruto (who doesn't understand at all due to not being raised by his parents... ) Sakura only tells two people who she feels enough trust in- neither boy understands though... I put that piece together with what we saw of Sakura personality prior and even sometime after her friendship with Ino. Sakura is even more crushed psychologically than Hinata was, she's also very fearful of adults that have authority over her, even at the start of part 1. Any criticism by those that she puts her trust in basically puts her into an emotional tailspin. It's too bad Kishimoto couldn't figure out a place to introduce Sakura's parents in part 1 like he did the majority of the kids. I think if fans in the west would have seen Mebuki verbally laying into part 1 Sakura it would have heightened sympathy for her. (she's always been far more popular in Japan than in the west, but that probably would have made her even more liked in Japan, out of sympathy).

Sakura complains but she's actually naively envious of Naruto being, as she would see it, free to be himself. Look at how minimal her "rebellion" is in the genjutsu world- she pigs out on her favorite food and doesn't clean up the mess. No real acting out or even pranks from what we've heard.

This also explains Sakura's overpowering wish for approval from those she cares about and how negative things they say to her still cuts her like a knife inside and makes her tear into herself.... It all goes back to her parents not believing in and supporting her...

We may still agree to disagree on this point but I just feel like Mebuki was meant to be similar to Hinata's father in how she views her child. Where Hinata's father changed after the Chunnin exams, Mebuki still doesn't believe in or support Sakura, and Kizashi won't challenge Mebuki because he's too passive. I think they need a bit of Naruto's "talk-no-jutsu"

You may be right. Who knows if Kishi in the manga will show a panel of Naruto talking to her parents and eventually he change them for the better.

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 August 2012 - 02:48 AM.