Posted 11 August 2013 - 02:31 PM
Only reason people tend to say ns is dead is because aside from hating sakura in most cases it's more about just selective reading. But there are arguements against ns I just cannot fathom, I mean some had meaning before but now it just seems like some are spoken without a second thought, these are just some arguements I disagree with entirely.
1. Many called it dead due to 469 yet never considered how naruto might have thought once sai told him Sakura's plan, heck even Kishi said something's himself over this ordeal and yet people still dub it the fail fission when it had nothing to do with her trying to get his love, only to get him to safety or make amends as sai said. Funny thing is, despite these claims, it's insane how those statements can come back to bit other groups like nh in the butt, I mean naruto giving up on sakura, that would ideally make him settling for hinata out of pity, that would be the real second settlement pairing, nh, not to mention giving up undermines the entire point of nh, how could hinata stand it if naruto gave up? How could naruto stand any girl he couldn't keep his promise too?
2. Naruto loves hinata now, Just when did naruto stop loving sakura? I mean seriously yeah it's only practically stated that he likes sakura still in 631 being thrilled at the idea if her being his girlfriend, but seriously he could have just called her a friend or even leave the minato part out. Even then between 469 and 631, where was there ever a notion of naruto loving hinata or thinking of her as more than a friend? We got notions of naruto still loving sakura in the anime even if it was just a filler, yet no time for anything nh related? Does that not speak irony or is nh just too perfect for its assured confidence?
3. Many still think 615 set everything into canon for nh: sorry no just no, neji didn't die for love, he died on his own choice to end the story line involving them all. Didn't anyone see this especially nh fans as the opposite of when we first met neji and how he thought of those 2? Not to mention, where is all the gradual development between pain and this moment to just have gotten naruto looking at her more than sakura? I mean one short memory, that supposed to cut it? It's not like when 615 came around naruto suddenly had resolved everything with sakura, it's not like their story was done. Yet people acted like it was already said and done.
4. Sasusaku is going to happen, Even a simple child knows sasusaku is impossible as the story is written, I seriously question anyone who believes this justification, why is Sasuke suddenly supposed to be overcome with nice feelings for sakura he never had before? Why is sakura only supposed to hope for him to be good? He'll this is why I don't like SS aside from how negative it's been, it's because Sasuke would get another free freaking pass, never mind the heroes merits, everything naruto doing just gets tossed aside again by Sasuke, now I know how angry naruto used to get at Sasuke, people always treated him to like he had a free pass option. Why should everything just fail for him again especially if its also the girl he has made a great friendship with or hokage? Even more, why give hinata a free pass? What is so overly critical about her love compared to narutos for sakura? We see naruto has selfless reasons for his love for sakura, sakura has returned some feelings to naruto, just not love yet, she is starting to distrust Sasuke, people think oh well she will still keep loving him. No okay just no, do people even think these arguements out? The same can be said for narusaku, naruto never stop loving sakura can be so easily said as well. Yet this late I the story, Kishi put a good emphasis on narusaku, we have seen reasons why naruto loves sakura, that fall inline with the main story regarding Sasuke. They act as if sakura loving naruto is impossible, sorry but if sakura can start to distrust Sasuke as she has begun, she can start to gain affection for naruto. Where does hinatas love just suddenly get the right to insert itself? Why do people think hinatas limited merits are worthy of being held on a pedistal? Naruto is the hero, his merits and actions give him the right to his goals above all others first. That's how these stories work, hero basically get the first dibs when it comes to goals being achieved. Hinata is a minor character, her voice in this is much smaller.
5. I am truely ashamed at the western fandom at times, I mean it's not the results of 631, rather its just how could people have honestly been suprised at 631? Not even needing to be pairing oriented, how clear as day did Kishi make sakura and Kushina? I just cannot believe how people cannot read some of the simplist material. For those in the pairing stuff, they either freaked out or just plain denounced the moment when 631 came and acted like it was to be angry at Kishi despite we said this stuff years ahead of time or said it was a joke, misinterpreted, or naruto is not one to listen to Kushina. I'm sorry but at this point it's like, were people also suprised when the geo statue was the ten tails? We're people honestly surprised when naruto would eventually gain control of kuramas power? Are people going to be suprised when naruto succeeds against Sasuke? Seriously, these things are obvious and going to happen or already have, so how hard is it for the brains of the readers to connect an early moment in the series between the hero and heroine to a similar backstory the heroes own mother has? I cannot say I'm suprised by this because literature rates in America have been falling, geez I'm glad I have enough of an education to read well. What's worst of all, this is stuff for middle school boys as the target audience, many who don't even ship anything, so why do people act like its somehow supposed to be ultra cryptic stuff only a few can ever see, is Kishi part of a game of shadows? Hey the only, cryptic things he ever did was mislead people from itachi being evil, tobis identity, and kabutos trump card, everything else is easily seen. The only story element he did himself sometimes the reader had to catch was seeing the hidden in the hidden as they say in the manga, secrets within secrets, yet that hardly comes up anymore. Even then there were visual clues to help warn the reader of something coming up beforehand.
6. Ns is a joke, red herring, etc. sorry but no, this is the worst of all, you don't put in a lot of development t and interaction for nothing, narusaku has the longest built relation ship, as of right now it is the longest built. Yet people think this is all supposed to end and make way for nh which only got a bit more recently within the last 6th if the story. Sorry the truth is if nh happens, nuns was not a red herring, it would still be better developed as mere friendship, ultimately this makes nh look even worse and weaker than it is, if Kishi had out more time in nh in the past like ns, then it would be stronger but he did not. Hinata had no real relevance in part 2 until pain came around, then vanished for more than another 100 chapters before 615. Yes in the 4th war he had a short memory of what she did in pain it that's it, a short memory, if that mattered how many memories of sakura has he held? Those he enjoys? Those important to the story? Heck if 457 was important in sai remembering it, it's also in narutos memory and he knows why he loves sakura but cannot assert himself to tell her yet. So we are to expect ns as something to never occur? Sorry you don't write all this and dump it on someone else. Ns and nh were even at the end of part 1 but ns gained more and more attention, the biggest setup for ns so far can be sakura not trusting Sasuke and how she resolved to help naruto, she cares for naruto, but what will happen when it's Sasuke threatening naruto? Even then hinata has no purpose in the final conflict, mainly because she does not even know Sasuke only that naruto is going to handle him. So how is hinata suddenly to understand narutos conflict with Sasuke? Does she understand it like sakura? No she does not, that's a major weakness of nh right there, even then 631, no matter how its argued, kushinas foreshadow will continue to come into play, sakura being the only girl compared to Kushina so far in canon material is reason enough to consider the potential of ns, what reason is there to change this or suddenly pull it again but on hinata? What reason does minato even have to meet hinata? Much as they others may say parallels do not matter, they do, we have seen them numerous times, 631 is just another. It was written for a reason, minato was around Kushina when they died so how is it wrong in any other way? Sakura is a girl he sees like Kushina, heck the audience should be aware of this by now, yet it's kinda shocking how people just choose to blot this out.
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