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Posted 11 August 2013 - 02:21 AM

It's going to be when Sasuke flares up against naruto, basically what would Sakura's limit be before something bad happens to naruto. The aspect of either dying is what she fears, but we mainly need to see where her distrust of Sasuke leads too. But I'll say this, things look negative from her to Sasuke yet she always views naruto greatly. If anything sakura is maturing but at this point it could possibly be that she subconsciously loves naruto, not realizing it yet. It's not going to happen all at once but there will be a trigger to make her realize what it is she truely feels for naruto. Even then many events for ns remain in play we can say, naruto confessing to her, the forehead ordeal, sakura revealing she knows how naruto feels, revisiting the land of iron actions (if that's needed, I mean it's also likely naruto forgave sakura or understood why she did what she did after sai told him). Ever since 631, many new things opened up for ns, don't be suprised if the whole forehead event comes up.

I like your theory . I hope this will be how it pans out . 


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 02:37 AM

how do you think SS will end .? What do you think will be the breaking point .?

To be honest, I don't know in his standpoint but I look forward to it. As for breaking point, well it can be either when Sasuke attacks or heck, even before anything Sasuke takes. Sakura can in fact move on where she stands. It all takes with a talk. At one point, I actually think it could end BEFORE Rin parallel. That way, it will be less awkward. But who knows, it can work either way.

I do believe SS can end and then go to NS full force. If there's another arc, expect a lot of NS before the finale. Also, I learned that having more than one feelings can lead confusion and/or blockage. I believe Sakura is in blockage because the world can figure out her feelings for Naruto but not her. In one show, once the girl ended a relationship, she went through thinking and she came to conclusion that she loves the protagonist a lot. In fact, it's true love, not love. Sakura's true love is Naruto. The only way it can go beyond is ending one feeling/blockage.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:10 AM

To be honest, I don't know in his standpoint but I look forward to it. As for breaking point, well it can be either when Sasuke attacks or heck, even before anything Sasuke takes. Sakura can in fact move on where she stands. It all takes with a talk. At one point, I actually think it could end BEFORE Rin parallel. That way, it will be less awkward. But who knows, it can work either way.

I do believe SS can end and then go to NS full force. If there's another arc, expect a lot of NS before the finale. Also, I learned that having more than one feelings can lead confusion and/or blockage. I believe Sakura is in blockage because the world can figure out her feelings for Naruto but not her. In one show, once the girl ended a relationship, she went through thinking and she came to conclusion that she loves the protagonist a lot. In fact, it's true love, not love. Sakura's true love is Naruto. The only way it can go beyond is ending one feeling/blockage.

one thing for sure , it will be a next arc . Naruto has to fight Sasuke . Yeah I too believe she was in blockage , thats why she never told Naruto that she still loves Sasuke . This is what Naruto assumes at this point imo . She knows about her lingering feelings for Sasuke but , from the way she acts she knows its something with Naruto too , she knows somewhere deep down she is in love with Naruto but isn't sure yet . 


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:27 AM

I think it was something like "Your words may sound sincere, but I know your smile is fake".

 

Thank you because there are people out there still saying Sakura was sincere, I just neeeded to be sure



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:33 AM

Thank you because there are people out there still saying Sakura was sincere, I just neeeded to be sure

she was far from sincere , I think she realized at that point that she wasn't happy he was there . 


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 04:50 AM

Just watched Iruka deliver the Heaven and Earth speech and it really is all encompassing/foreshadowing.

 

For starters its Naruto and Sakura that open the scrolls. Iruka is telling Naruto how he lacks "heaven" and then Sakura giggles, which leads to Iruka telling her how she lacks "earth".

 

Come together and the righteous paths becomes revealed and the mission easier (or something like that)

 

Flash forward and Sakura has clearly gained "earth" and Naruto has gained "heaven" evident in the latest chapter with his heads up Senju thinking. 

 

Anyway the heaven and earth comparison is pretty awesome on Kishi's part, not to mention NS really took its first giant step on the H&E Bridge. 

 

Also maybe Naruto and Sakura will fight together as foreshadowed in the last part of the Iruka's speech



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 05:12 AM

Just watched Iruka deliver the Heaven and Earth speech and it really is all encompassing/foreshadowing.

 

For starters its Naruto and Sakura that open the scrolls. Iruka is telling Naruto how he lacks "heaven" and then Sakura giggles, which leads to Iruka telling her how she lacks "earth".

 

Come together and the righteous paths becomes revealed and the mission easier (or something like that)

 

Flash forward and Sakura has clearly gained "earth" and Naruto has gained "heaven" evident in the latest chapter with his heads up Senju thinking. 

 

Anyway the heaven and earth comparison is pretty awesome on Kishi's part, not to mention NS really took its first giant step on the H&E Bridge. 

 

Also maybe Naruto and Sakura will fight together as foreshadowed in the last part of the Iruka's speech

good point , hopefully Kishi follows through . 


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 05:28 AM

In arc wise, it all started in 539-540. It would seem that Sakura is really being tested on her love. 540 is about the guy who she loves. 635 is about how she feels with that guy around. Both are negatives and Sasuke has no intentions to show any kindness or careness, let alone his goal is dark. So don't think he will pull Gajeel, Zuko, or any characters who know he was wrong and tried to redeem.

 

SS fans still have hope in their pairing particularly because of Itachi's truth. Most are actually betting all their money on it. They think once Itachi's truth gets revealed to Sakura SS will make a come back. All her doubts and negatives feelings about Sasuke will be erased, etc. And of course, she will do anything to help him. After all, Naruto didn't know what do do about Sasuke until Tobi told him about the truth.

 

 

Tbh, i don't really blame them thinking that, but if Sasuke really wants to kill Naruto, I don't think it'll help.



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 05:44 AM

 

SS fans still have hope in their pairing particularly because of Itachi's truth. Most are actually betting all their money on it. They think once Itachi's truth gets revealed to Sakura SS will make a come back. All her doubts and negatives feelings about Sasuke will be erased, etc. And of course, she will do anything to help him. After all, Naruto didn't know what do do about Sasuke until Tobi told him about the truth.

 

 

Tbh, i don't really blame them thinking that, but if Sasuke really wants to kill Naruto, I don't think it'll help.

poppycock , SS is over with imo its no coming back .  


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 06:08 AM

SS fans still have hope in their pairing particularly because of Itachi's truth. Most are actually betting all their money on it. They think once Itachi's truth gets revealed to Sakura SS will make a come back. All her doubts and negatives feelings about Sasuke will be erased, etc. And of course, she will do anything to help him. After all, Naruto didn't know what do do about Sasuke until Tobi told him about the truth.
 
 
Tbh, i don't really blame them thinking that, but if Sasuke really wants to kill Naruto, I don't think it'll help.

That doesn't really help. When Naruto heard it, he didn't want to believe it because it only made Sasuke's reason justified to seek revenge. The whole point was to address that Sasuke came to this conclusion on his own, not Tobi. Also, Naruto didn't have an answer until he starts chasing him because he was lost with words and didn't understand what to say. I am tired that one truth solves all when Kakashi clearly say that the truth does more damage than good. That's why Naruto has no choice but fight Sasuke to the death.

Also, in writing, when it comes to love drops, it never returns unless you did have a relationship to begin with though even then, you can still lose. Once she drops feelings, it's all over. Not ifs and buts. Same to Naruto, but the story is leaning that he will never change. If that's really their last hope, well then, good luck with that.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 06:31 AM

That doesn't really help. When Naruto heard it, he didn't want to believe it because it only made Sasuke's reason justified to seek revenge. The whole point was to address that Sasuke came to this conclusion on his own, not Tobi. Also, Naruto didn't have an answer until he starts chasing him because he was lost with words and didn't understand what to say. I am tired that one truth solves all when Kakashi clearly say that the truth does more damage than good. That's why Naruto has no choice but fight Sasuke to the death.

Also, in writing, when it comes to love drops, it never returns unless you did have a relationship to begin with though even then, you can still lose. Once she drops feelings, it's all over. Not ifs and buts. Same to Naruto, but the story is leaning that he will never change. If that's really their last hope, well then, good luck with that.

THIS .  Its no other conclusion than for Naruto and Sasuke to have to fight . They last hope is pretty much a ghost of a hope because it been dead in 635 . once the trust is gone its kind of over . And it took her to realize this when both and Naruto and Sasuke was in the same place that says alot for me . 


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:07 AM

 

SS fans still have hope in their pairing particularly because of Itachi's truth. Most are actually betting all their money on it. They think once Itachi's truth gets revealed to Sakura SS will make a come back. All her doubts and negatives feelings about Sasuke will be erased, etc. And of course, she will do anything to help him. After all, Naruto didn't know what do do about Sasuke until Tobi told him about the truth.

 

 

Tbh, i don't really blame them thinking that, but if Sasuke really wants to kill Naruto, I don't think it'll help.

 

That doesn't help one bit  when he learned  the truth about Itachi he could have chosen to head back and start anew. What did he do ? Went crazy and became obsessed even more..  He had a chance of redeeming himself then and there he chose darkness. Tobi/obito didn't twist him or put him onder genjustu , but he did what he did himself .. wanting to kill little kids and such ..

They forget Sasuke doesn't give a f__k , right? Sakura's feelings have been lingering on a string of hay , there is nothing to fix by her , since she doesn't understand him a iota . The person who can help is Naruto and not Sakura , those who have experienced the same pain can truly understand the others suffering .. (credit goes to Nagato ^^). They haven't been in a close relationship like Sakura and Naruto not even best friends so that she could help/heal him. I do think if she learns the truth she will start to hate him even.. or is it just me?
If that is gonna help them, then good luck.


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:18 AM

hmm last volume with the team 7 reunion kishi made a point to also emphasize their relationship. But it is a one sided triangle.
first is Sasuke towards Naruto and every single one of them indicates it's gonna be ugly. Sakura towards Sasuke we have the shock and answer in 635. So she is happy that Sasuke is fighting as a team with them again but knows it won't last. She especially knows about the if we fight we both are gonna die.
And oddly even thou not so emphasized is what happened with the kushina = Sakura.
Anyway for NS it's a yes more or less but it will be adressed more seriously.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:31 AM

maybe sakura will give a small katsuyu clone to naruto for his final fight against sasuke. or even earlier against jubito.


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 08:30 AM

hmm last volume with the team 7 reunion kishi made a point to also emphasize their relationship. But it is a one sided triangle.
first is Sasuke towards Naruto and every single one of them indicates it's gonna be ugly. Sakura towards Sasuke we have the shock and answer in 635. So she is happy that Sasuke is fighting as a team with them again but knows it won't last. She especially knows about the if we fight we both are gonna die.
And oddly even thou not so emphasized is what happened with the kushina = Sakura.
Anyway for NS it's a yes more or less but it will be adressed more seriously.

what do you mean it will be addressed more seriously .?


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 09:18 AM

what do you mean it will be addressed more seriously .?

 

The NS thing. Either they talk or something, right now the priority is to win the war not clear up their feelings.



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 11:20 AM

Ok, something just crossed my mind. You know how the NH fans are always saying 'Sakura will just use Naruto as a backup because Sasuke isn't there'? I wonder if Kishi got sick and tired of seeing posts like that on every single Naruto related page on the internet and decided he'd put Sasuke in the story all of a sudden to show Sakura has really moved on. I doubt it, but it'd make my day if he wrote that.
 
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Sakura: Yeah...about that...I love Naruto now.  :narusaku:
 
NH fans:  :jawdrop:
 
NS fans:  :banana:


Kishi doesnt have a computer, and even if he does, the western fanbase isnt his fanbase. He wont be lurking around in NF or anything. He doesnt know english as far as I've read about the guy. In the japanese fanbase there isnt any of that kitten. They know very well that sakura is an awesome heroine that isnt written poorly who wouldnt do that. They dont give a ship about hinata. They dont. And yeah, she might have loud fans in japan, but its nothing compared to the top 10 most popular characters in naruto. Its really nothing compared to them. The top 10 characters that are thr most popular and the position they earned makes sense and its perfect. And whats even better is that hinata isnt even in the top ten. So basically the top 10 chsracters are the ones that the japanese most prefer. Kakashi naruto sasuke iruka shikamaru sakura gaara neji itachi lee. These are characters that are greatly developed and improved. Not only that but the akatsuki, hokage, kage, kushina, shikamaru, lee, neji. Team 10, team gai and team 7 are the three teams that are the most popular and well written with major connection to the story.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 12:33 PM

Kishi doesnt have a computer, and even if he does, the western fanbase isnt his fanbase. He wont be lurking around in NF or anything. He doesnt know english as far as I've read about the guy. In the japanese fanbase there isnt any of that kitten. They know very well that sakura is an awesome heroine that isnt written poorly who wouldnt do that. They dont give a ship about hinata. They dont. And yeah, she might have loud fans in japan, but its nothing compared to the top 10 most popular characters in naruto. Its really nothing compared to them. The top 10 characters that are thr most popular and the position they earned makes sense and its perfect. And whats even better is that hinata isnt even in the top ten. So basically the top 10 chsracters are the ones that the japanese most prefer. Kakashi naruto sasuke iruka shikamaru sakura gaara neji itachi lee. These are characters that are greatly developed and improved. Not only that but the akatsuki, hokage, kage, kushina, shikamaru, lee, neji. Team 10, team gai and team 7 are the three teams that are the most popular and well written with major connection to the story.

he has a computer , but he just dont give a damn about Hinata and her followers . I just can't see Naruto working so hard , going through so much pain and being selfess to make Sakura happy , just to fail at getting Sakura in the end  . And I saw a picture of Kishi's workdesk he got a Naruto and Sakura keychain on his lamp:)


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 01:21 PM

he has a computer , but he just dont give a damn about Hinata and her followers . I just can't see Naruto working so hard , going through so much pain and being selfess to make Sakura happy , just to fail at getting Sakura in the end  . And I saw a picture of Kishi's workdesk he got a Naruto and Sakura keychain on his lamp:)

What I remember was that in one of his old interviews he said he doesnt have a computer. Or he has those old computers. I fprgot but im preetty sure he doesnt have a computer. Besides, the japanese fans are pretty active with events and what not. So he probably knows that team 7 and those top ten charaters and many other popular characters (not hinata or shino) are positively taken.

Oh and, he only had a sakura key chain. Not naruto. There was this other closer shot where he had alot of sasuke concept art and itachi. And he had at the side a whole bunch of different shades of yellow markers and beside that was a whole bunch of different shade of pink and another one with a whole bunch of different shade of green and another one with a whole bunch of different shade of blue. Basically team 7 colors. Starting from naruto--> sakura--> kakashi--> sasuke.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 01:23 PM

I think we'll see something from Sakura either before they win or when the war is over concerning Sasuke. Like Sasuke is going to make a move that we'll have her angry, or she'll say something that we'll understand that she doesn't see him the way she sees him before as romantically and a person who knows that Sasuke is up to no good or something close to this.

 

When that happens, all is remain is her concerning Naruto and we might see another negative view from her to Sasuke in their final fight.






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