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[Paptala]

Here's a topic:

When Sakura confessed to Naruto she mentioned the things that many of us imagined she would eventually say if she confessed:

1) How Sakura saw him go from a prankster to a hero
2) How he's always there to encourage her

The things that made it go wrong were:

1) Mentioning how Sasuke is getting farther away, which made it look as if she chose Naruto because she couldn't get Sasuke
2) Saying how everyone in the village loved him and that she was just one of them. That made her feelings look as if they were part of the crowd and not something special to her.

I guess my question is: If Sakura were to express her love for Naruto, how would it go this time?

Would she mention those good reasons for loving Naruto once again even if they seem kind of redundant and their value drops a little given their association to the previous confession? Would she maybe make it clear that she meant what she said back then about his good points and why that made her fall for him?

Or maybe Sakura could realize that she loves Naruto for different reasons all together. Maybe she could say something about loving his desire and determination to become Hokage. It would be a nice call back to when Sakura nearly forfeited the chunin exams in order to protect Naruto's dream.

Hard to say, really. Because I do think that some of things Sakura was saying in her confession to Naruto were good reasons for loving him - like how he's always thereto encourage her, or how he makes her feel safe, etc.

I'm torn on her saying that she was just one of the villagers that loved him - it could be like you said, or it could be that she was possibly trying to convey that just as Naruto changed the hearts of the villagers, he changed her heart and view of him.

I think though that Sakura was giving some simply logical reasons as to why she would love him - kind of like a list of why she should be in love with Naruto, and why she shouldn't be in love with Sasuke.

Maybe the best confession from Sakura would be something purely from the heart, with no logic in it - something like, "You drive me crazy, you're rash, perverted, ramen-obssesed, but I wouldn't have it any other way! Because all of that is what makes Naruto Naruto." Sakura doesn't love Naruto for being the hero, or for being strong and cool. She loves him for who he is, including his less than stellar qualities (for example, recall that she was a bit sad when she thought that Naruto had grown up emotionally when they reunited in 245).

Edited by Paptala, 18 November 2012 - 04:35 AM.

[redragon88]

Maybe the best confession from Sakura would be something purely from the heart, with no logic in it - something like, "You drive me crazy, you're rash, perverted, ramen-obssesed, but I wouldn't have it any other way! Because all of that is what makes Naruto Naruto." Sakura doesn't love Naruto for being the hero, or for being strong and cool. She loves him for who he is, including his less than stellar qualities (for example, recall that she was a bit sad when she thought that Naruto had grown up emotionally when they reunited in 245).

Dear friend, I think you have just given the perfect answer for when Sakura brings up her feelings for Naruto once again.

As said before, the reason Sakura's confession went wrong was because she gave a logical spin to it. She tried to find understandable reasons for loving Naruto so that he wouldn't doubt her when she said it.

Sakura should take the illogical approach this time. Maybe make a comment that despite being a hero he's still a reckless idiot, but that she loves that reckless idiotic side of his. Naruto just being who he is fills her with happiness.

[Rozette]

need a new topic hun . humm let me think . hey do tsunade know that naruto loves sakura.i think she noticed that when she was curing sasuke.

I didn't want this to go unanswered, so I'll throw in my two cents.

I do think that Tsunade is aware of Naruto's love for Sakura, but moreover, I think she is more aware of Sakura's unconscious feelings being that they are so close and spent so much time together. The obvious stuff. I agree that the evidence of this may have been she was curing Sasuke, or most definitely when Sakura went to visit Naruto after he returned from the Final Valley in the hospital with Shikamaru and herself present.

[Tendo Ryuken]

Ok I got one.

See that I have witness opposite realm of SS being the main pairing and healthiest. Don't ask, I'm pretty tired of it. That said what if all the moments you saw for NS, happened to NH instead. Lets pretend we are in a parallel world where you see my sig as NH instead. Basically, NS and NH moments are switched. What's your feelings toward them? Also, personalities doesn't change. So go!

Really nice idea. let me have a try
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forgot the chapter
Naruto suddenly appeared. blocking a few of white zetsus.

Naruto : are you ok hinata?
Hinata : Narutokun?
Naruto : it seems that you didnt get hurt.

Neji and kiba aproached them.

Naruto : i can sense them. we can move now
neji and kiba and hinata : ok!!

on the other side of the battle field

KABOOM!!, naruto destroyed the 2 of white zetsu who was attacking sakura on the entrance of the medical tent.

Naruto : are you ok sakura -chan?
Sakura : Naruto ?!
Sakura : why am i always ended up being a burden to him? and why is he here? isnt he supposed to be somewhere safe?
Naruto : dont worry sakurachan, you has never been a burden to me. by the way, granpa raikage and granny tsunade gave me their permission to enter the battlefield.
Sakura : what? dont be silly, im not thinking about that.. how come he read my mind?! is this his new ability
Naruto : everything is in your eyes. and ..
Sizune : HOLD ON. are you really naruto? how can we tell that you are not an enemy.
Naruto : im naruto .
Sakura : he is naruto, sizune san.
Sizune : sakura, you didnt know that those two white thingy was enemies. how can you be sure now?
Sakura : i don't know. i just can tell he is naruto. look at his eyes sizune san, you can tell ..

Ryuken's side note : i can edit the post if you find any misspelling or bad grammar . i can also bring you more scene if you want

Edited by Ryuken, 18 November 2012 - 08:19 AM.

[candycane-chan]

/\ No!!
I can never imagine their moments flipped.
I didn't like any of the NH moments and all of them make sakura look out of character and lacking faith in naruto.
But if this was the case then I wouldn't have supported NS.

[Tendo Ryuken]

/\ No!!
I can never imagine their moments flipped.
I didn't like any of the NH moments and all of them make sakura look out of character and lacking faith in naruto.
But if this was the case then I wouldn't have supported NS.

i thought i made the scene without make sakura out of character. hmm.. can you point me my mistake anyway?

[candycane-chan]

i thought i made the scene without make sakura out of character. hmm.. can you point me my mistake anyway?

I didn't mean that particular moment ( though you did a good job in keeping sakura in character )
I was talking about the other moments ,mostly the stalking and fidgeting and shyness. I can't see those in a tsundere. ( there are characters like that but I find them uninteresting). and to see sakura's character revolve around nothing but him doesn't seem right either. whenever something small and simple happens she worries about him , I just think that she would have so little in him .....so no

[Tendo Ryuken]

I didn't mean that particular moment ( though you did a good job in keeping sakura in character )
I was talking about the other moments ,mostly the stalking and fidgeting and shyness. I can't see those in a tsundere. ( there are characters like that but I find them uninteresting). and to see sakura's character revolve around nothing but him doesn't seem right either. whenever something small and simple happens she worries about him , I just think that she would have so little in him .....so no

i see. and thanks for your compliment

btw. i think i have to say this, Hinata got only few screen time and from those screen time i can guarantee that she has never stalk anyone (at least the manga. i dont know about the anime since i dont watch them)

and also this :

its true that Hinata would do everything for naruto's sake, BUT
NOT everything she did was for naruto

[Gravenimage]

Ok I got one.

See that I have witness opposite realm of SS being the main pairing and healthiest. Don't ask, I'm pretty tired of it. That said what if all the moments you saw for NS, happened to NH instead. Lets pretend we are in a parallel world where you see my sig as NH instead. Basically, NS and NH moments are switched. What's your feelings toward them? Also, personalities doesn't change. So go!

Lol sounds like a lame idea for a fan fiction.

[narulsaku]

Lol sounds like a lame idea for a fan fiction.

yeha i totally agree. and hey what about road to sakura. that just got into my mind.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Lol at the replies. Well yeah, that's the point. It would seem only fanfic would make it possible. Imagine if Hinata got all the screen time from Sakura. Would you say your pairing would be different if that was the case? Like RtN, it's Naruto and Hinata that got trapped in AU!.

[PhenixElite]

Lol at the replies. Well yeah, that's the point. It would seem only fanfic would make it possible. Imagine if Hinata got all the screen time from Sakura. Would you say your pairing would be different if that was the case? Like RtN, it's Naruto and Hinata that got trapped in AU!.

If it was like that then Hinata would be a main character and sakura would be the side charcter. So also hinata would also be a tsundere and naruto would be i love with her, but hinata would be in love with sasuke right?
Hmm i think if it was like that then i would be NH shipper because i dont know what to do with a pairing without development (like in reality NH and SS).

Naruto would have done so much for hinata and sakura would be the boring shy girl in the background. So i think everyone here would ship NH then because hinata would be exactly sakuras character just different looks.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If it was like that then Hinata would be a main character and sakura would be the side charcter. So also hinata would also be a tsundere and naruto would be i love with her, but hinata would be in love with sasuke right?
Hmm i think if it was like that then i would be NH shipper because i dont know what to do with a pairing without development (like in reality NH and SS).

Naruto would have done so much for hinata and sakura would be the boring shy girl in the background. So i think everyone here would ship NH then because hinata would be exactly sakuras character just different looks.

Well, I did say their personality would be the same.

[PhenixElite]

Well, I did say their personality would be the same.

Well if they had the sam peronalities then i still would ship NS. But i would wonder why kishi is making so much development for NH if the main character is in love with Sakura from episode 3.
Maybe because hes going to change the main characters hearth. Same like its happening in reality with sakura right now.

But after all i wouldnt stop shipping NS because i just think that a character like hinata doe not fit with someone like naruto. He needs a dominant woman like his mother.

[Tendo Ryuken]

If it was like that then Hinata would be a main character and sakura would be the side charcter. So also hinata would also be a tsundere and naruto would be i love with her, but hinata would be in love with sasuke right?
Hmm i think if it was like that then i would be NH shipper because i dont know what to do with a pairing without development (like in reality NH and SS).

Naruto would have done so much for hinata and sakura would be the boring shy girl in the background. So i think everyone here would ship NH then because hinata would be exactly sakuras character just different looks.

lol that would be a really different story

@NaruSaku4Life3g

im sorry. i thought you were asking for playing some kind of games

if you guys dont mind. i would like to tell you my very neutral opinion (i hope its neutral enough lol)

in my first day on this forum, Paptala told me that Sakura is the heroine and i DO believe him. but the flow of the manga since the Pain invasion arc is really going to the opposite side.

1. Tsunade overshadowed her in term of impact for the story. as a hokage, tsunade did so many thing such as protecting sasuke, and protecting the entire village from pain's assault, and playing a big role at fighting between 5 kages vs madara. and if you are asking about female character who can understand naruto, and have faith in him the most. then the answer is tsunade. if kishimoto really wanted to make his own heroine to shine, theres nothing to prevent him from doing so. look at naruto and jiraiya, then sasuke and orochimaru, and you will understand my point. but the fact is kishi was too busy with his beloved uchiha and jinchuriki to think about his poor heroine. people said that kishi is bad at writing about female character but i never thought that he is this bad.

2. as tsunade's apprentice, she is overshadowed by sizune. again, look at naruto and nagato, then sasuke and kabuto. i bet their current power is stronger than their fellow apprentice. of course sakura might surpass sizune and even tsunade in the future, but according to kishi's style i really doubt that. lets just pray for god to show kishimoto the right way.

3. as a woman for the hero, she is overshadowed by hinata. hey!! think before you blame me. why do you think hinata is more popular than sakura? EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE OF NOTHING BUT KISHIMOTO HIMSELF. please look back at pain invasion arc. we can see sakura supporting tsunade. we can see shikamaru leading the 'dechiper team', we can see lee, neji, sai, tenten outside the village. we can see ino and her father protecting the information about the black rod. we can see choji reporting about deva pain to the hokage. so, where is hinata? she was nowhere insight then
KABOOOM!!!!!!!
she appeared out of nowhere and took one of the most important role in the arc as the trigger to turn the tide of the battle. THAT WAS A ROLE FOR THE HEROINE GO****NIT. i really cant understand what has gotten into kishi's mind. If you want to blame someone, it has to be kishi. not me. and like its not bad enough, kishi said in one of his interview that sakura got slipped his mind. cheh..

my apology if i said something inaprotiate. and keep in mind that everything i said above is pure my opinion. it is always possible that im wrong. and one more thing,
------- I HAVE NO INTENTION TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION --------
honestly, i get nothing from doing that.

[narulsaku]

okey great thinking ryuken. i agree with you and about that pein arc,and hinata , i am personally confuse. kisi did it just for the fans or if that would be sakura who would have saved naruto then she would be injured. and there would be no one to heal her. and she would have not hugged naruto. and we didnt have get a ns moment. thats what i think. ps~~~ sorry for the gramatical mistake.

[PhenixElite]

lol that would be a really different story

@NaruSaku4Life3g

im sorry. i thought you were asking for playing some kind of games

if you guys dont mind. i would like to tell you my very neutral opinion (i hope its neutral enough lol)

in my first day on this forum, Paptala told me that Sakura is the heroine and i DO believe him. but the flow of the manga since the Pain invasion arc is really going to the opposite side.

1. Tsunade overshadowed her in term of impact for the story. as a hokage, tsunade did so many thing such as protecting sasuke, and protecting the entire village from pain's assault, and playing a big role at fighting between 5 kages vs madara. and if you are asking about female character who can understand naruto, and have faith in him the most. then the answer is tsunade. if kishimoto really wanted to make his own heroine to shine, theres nothing to prevent him from doing so. look at naruto and jiraiya, then sasuke and orochimaru, and you will understand my point. but the fact is kishi was too busy with his beloved uchiha and jinchuriki to think about his poor heroine. people said that kishi is bad at writing about female character but i never thought that he is this bad.

2. as tsunade's apprentice, she is overshadowed by sizune. again, look at naruto and nagato, then sasuke and kabuto. i bet their current power is stronger than their fellow apprentice. of course sakura might surpass sizune and even tsunade in the future, but according to kishi's style i really doubt that. lets just pray for god to show kishimoto the right way.

3. as a woman for the hero, she is overshadowed by hinata. hey!! think before you blame me. why do you think hinata is more popular than sakura? EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE OF NOTHING BUT KISHIMOTO HIMSELF. please look back at pain invasion arc. we can see sakura supporting tsunade. we can see shikamaru leading the 'dechiper team', we can see lee, neji, sai, tenten outside the village. we can see ino and her father protecting the information about the black rod. we can see choji reporting about deva pain to the hokage. so, where is hinata? she was nowhere insight then
KABOOOM!!!!!!!
she appeared out of nowhere and took one of the most important role in the arc as the trigger to turn the tide of the battle. THAT WAS A ROLE FOR THE HEROINE GO****NIT. i really cant understand what has gotten into kishi's mind. If you want to blame someone, it has to be kishi. not me. and like its not bad enough, kishi said in one of his interview that sakura got slipped his mind. cheh..

my apology if i said something inaprotiate. and keep in mind that everything i said above is pure my opinion. it is always possible that im wrong. and one more thing,
------- I HAVE NO INTENTION TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION --------
honestly, i get nothing from doing that.

Hmmm everyone became so doubtfull this last days, at least thats my opinion. Maybe its just that everyone is too much overthinking everything.
I never thought about a problem with sakrua beeing the heroine. During the pain arc she got a lot of screentime. She healed a lot of ninjas invluding hinata and co.
About hinata i also see no problem because her confession was necessary, hinatas confeesion was required at some point in the manga.(Better that time then later during the war)
Also in the end sakura made the big impact with her hug, so wheres the problem?

ABout kishis interview, i also dont see a problem because you have to understand that theres not always place for sakura to show up. I mean naruto was split fro sakura the whole time so its clear that we dont see sakura that often

In the end we all know that sakura already got a lot of development and the rest of the rookies didnt get a lot at all, so the war was the best place to show it.
Now as soon as the rookies arrive im sure we will get some naruto and dakura development again and also showing that sakura is the heroine.

[narulsaku]

yes phenixelite i dont have any problem with that. but that confesion many nh fans boast of that its a nh moment. and kisi is going to do nh . they also say that why ns isnt a onesided pairing too. when sakura still loves sasuke.

[Don-kun]

Dear friend, I think you have just given the perfect answer for when Sakura brings up her feelings for Naruto once again.

As said before, the reason Sakura's confession went wrong was because she gave a logical spin to it. She tried to find understandable reasons for loving Naruto so that he wouldn't doubt her when she said it.

Sakura should take the illogical approach this time. Maybe make a comment that despite being a hero he's still a reckless idiot, but that she loves that reckless idiotic side of his. Naruto just being who he is fills her with happiness.

The mean something like, You such a baka, but you are my BAKA.
Something like these?

Sakura --Click here to view--

Or this.

Sakura. --Click here to view--

This is a Natural Sakura, while is might seem touching it also keeps the funny Tsundere and the goofy hero part, something that is very essential in a Shonen Manga, what SS and NH wish for for a large romantic development, something we might never get in a Shonen Manga.
Naruto's confession, well that is for another topic.

People who are setting themselves up for a long romantic event are just setting up them self for disappointments.

[redragon88]

@Don-kun

Well I'll be, that was picture perfect. Literally.

That's precisely the approach that Sakura should take next time she addresses her feelings for Naruto. And as you said, it goes perfectly with the atmosphere of an action shonen manga and it's tsundere heroine.

It's like that second comic said, it's not that Naruto became someone Sakura desires, Naruto became part of Sakura's life. If Naruto wasn't with her then it would be the same as part of her being cut out, so she'll fight to remain by his side.

P.S. Could you tell where you found those images?