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Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:08 PM

so you don't think one will happen probably earlier .?

You mean a pairing happening before Sasuke's death or Naruto vs Sasuke fight ?

 

Either way, I don't think a pairing will happen, as in they know they're together, before Sasuke's death or fight. Before those, things will get clearer to them in terms of Naruto seeing that Sakura loves him, and Sakura showing us or realizing that she loves Naruto.

 

By the way, what I was saying before, I was referring to Sasuke's issue that is part of the ending. I wasn't including the pairing matters which few NS moments could happen in the fight.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:24 PM

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LadyGT I have to say I'm SO glad you're pro-NS, because if you were pro NH or SS...this would be torture. :sweat: You really make the NaruSaku Fam shine.

 

 

Ever since I first saw Kushina, I was thinking she was like Sakura just due to the back-story. Before the majority of other NS fans saw this stuff, I began to think, geez that rescue of Kushina was just like the Sakura rescue only 20 or so chapters previously. Some fans I talked with at the time, when the similarities were noted that the sequences and angles were very similar, especially the rescue, smiles, encouragement, and hugs, I had a discussion with other fans of all types to see if they thought this meant anything.

 

As usual at the time I talked with others about this, many said it was nothing major, but one time is not enough, this is something we have seen over 5 times now. I began to ask them if they thought either Kushina was really nothing like Sakura or if she was just based off Sakura for the sake of convenience to move the story along. So rather than a story design debate, it then sadly degraded into a pairing one in which they thought that this was again either part of the "NS red herring" or "it does absolutely nothing for NS as it was not development" then it somehow turned into a discussion over if Kishi was lazy in designing Kushina and the other sequences. So either Kushina is a factor for Naruto liking Sakura or all these similarities were just made as a choice to save time and cut the flashback story down quickly. Never mind Kishi made Kushina based off stuff he did with Sakura, he just wanted to save time or just mislead fans again....

 

Well aside from Kushinas past with Minato being similar to Sakura and Naruto, the design itself of these panels is just too similar by angle and by expression. Yet we still see next to nothing from the NH side of her somehow being like Kushina or even Minato. Nothing at all. Though this conversation happened a couple years ago, at this point its either kishi is doing this on purpose to give the reader some hints, at least it has a meaning. Or he was just lazy as others say, but to do this deliberately, when he could have just given Kushina a different easier unrelated personality and background to anyone, he could have but he did not. I highly doubt he was being lazy for the sake of time when it came to designing Kushina.

They will deny these parallels till the end, and I'd bet twenty bucks if all of the older generation of pairings paralleled NH they'd rub it in our faces as much as they could. I honestly fear for the paring fandoms of Naruto. Like, when NS becomes canon, that will probably be one of the greatest ****storms the internet has ever witnessed.

 

And I'm just going to throw this out here because of a similar situation I've been in.

 

*activates flame shield*

 

I shipped Harry and Hermione. Or, "Harmony". I shipped them so hard and I didn't even know the meaning of ships or pairings. I just genuinely liked the idea of this pairing. To this day Harry not ending up with Hermione still burns a little, lol. I just could not believe what I was reading when Harry, out of the blue, developed these feelings for Ginny. The whole HG and HR in Book 6/7 felt so contrived and unnatural....Okay, I'm not going to get any further into that. :sweatdrop:

 

Anyways, I'm just saying they should prepare themselves for the "worst". Better safe than "trolled". And that goes for me as well. You just NEVER know what the author is capable of until it's right there in your face. But don't get me wrong, I'm pretty damn confident NS will be canon. The exact opposite feeling I had when I first joined this site. The way Kishi has built this pairing and how gradual this has all been...if it doesn't happen, it would seem like bad writing. Like seriously, what would be the point in putting all of the effort, time, and parallels into building this pairing?



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:51 PM

LadyGT I have to say I'm SO glad you're pro-NS, because if you were pro NH or SS...this would be torture. :sweat: You really make the NaruSaku Fam shine.

 

They will deny these parallels till the end, and I'd bet twenty bucks if all of the older generation of pairings paralleled NH they'd rub it in our faces as much as they could. I honestly fear for the paring fandoms of Naruto. Like, when NS becomes canon, that will probably be one of the greatest ****storms the internet has ever witnessed.

 

And I'm just going to throw this out here because of a similar situation I've been in.

 

*activates flame shield*

 

I shipped Harry and Hermione. Or, "Harmony". I shipped them so hard and I didn't even know the meaning of ships or pairings. I just genuinely liked the idea of this pairing. To this day Harry not ending up with Hermione still burns a little, lol. I just could not believe what I was reading when Harry, out of the blue, developed these feelings for Ginny. The whole HG and HR in Book 6/7 felt so contrived and unnatural....Okay, I'm not going to get any further into that. :sweatdrop:

 

Anyways, I'm just saying they should prepare themselves for the "worst". Better safe than "trolled". And that goes for me as well. You just NEVER know what the author is capable of until it's right there in your face. But don't get me wrong, I'm pretty damn confident NS will be canon. The exact opposite feeling I had when I first joined this site. The way Kishi has built this pairing and how gradual this has all been...if it doesn't happen, it would seem like bad writing. Like seriously, what would be the point in putting all of the effort, time, and parallels into building this pairing?

 

Well its just a matter if some people realize if the story even allows for a pairing to take place. NS definitely has a chance, the biggest by far. If anything NS as a relation has gotten the most focus in the series aside from Naruto and Sasuke for that brotherhood relation. NH can it happen? Yeah but its a slim chance and its going to be harder to make when kishi has left out so much time on it he could have used to develop it. Many missed opportunities means it would look even weaker if he didn't get to work on it as much as he could have back in the pain or 4th war arc. Not to mention with 631, its going to be even harder to imagine now. People like to say he messes and teases us with NS as a red herring or trolls the pairings evenly but honest to god, no he does not. He most likely doesn't even care, does he know? Sure but people still missing the point on 469, him even saying he felt he decepted an honest girl who though stubborn truly cares for Naruto, its not that she tried to confess to Naruto, she was trying to save him from his own stubbornness and her own overrelaiance on him, she was concerned for his well-being plain and simple yet others act as if she was somehow trying to manipulate him for her own gain, she only wanted his safety above all. SasuSaku on the other hand, its near death. No way in hell is Sasuke ever going to love Sakura, rather any reason. For a guy who had not even thought much of her when they were friends and just simple comrades, I don't know why people suddenly expect this to come true. Sasuke getting all warm and fuzzy feelings is just crazier than the golden byakugan theory. Sasuke does not do nice. But as it is, NS has everything laid out, Sakura's development will lead to something in the end with Naruto.

 

The greatest irony of claims against NS for people using 615 as Neji dying for NH to come true, they completely missed the point of 615. Neji died on his own choice and freewill out of protecting Naruto and Hinata, aka to come full circle, he originally hated both of them and wanted to kill Hinata, look what he did, his end was him freely choosing to intercept the wood stake not because it was his duty as a member of the side branch, it was his own free will and he chose to die to protect them. This was his development full circle, he was free to make his own choice on protecting others. he sacrificed himself out of wanting to save them, not for romance. He simply moved because he chose to freely sacrifice himself. This is what is funny, many don't realize this was Neji's full circle development, Slextrem actually had a video on 615 for the time which said this. Now in this full circle development, its like people can accept things on Naruto and Sasuke's ends for Naruto being accepted and an acknowledged hokage and Sasuke no longer claiming revenge seeing he has a future back home in the leaf. But they think its a god damned impossibility for Sakura to love Naruto. They think the aspect of her hating Naruto in the start but loving him in the end is just too complex and hard to believe. Hey if 635 has Sakura turning away from Sasuke and she still views Naruto as practically her best friend, then what are we to think here that SS will still magically come true or that perhaps 631 and 635 may start to lean at something else, aka Kushina's foreshadow and Sakura gaining affection for Naruto? To many this is impossible.Yet is simple full circle development, we have seen it with Neji (mentioned above), Gaara (hated everyone and was feared by all, father tried to kill him, in the end he forgave his father, found out his uncle didn't actually hate him at all, and even said his father did what he thought was right, now look he is the loved kazekage), team 10 (were a disfuctional group at first but became better, grew up together, Shikamaru accepted a mantle of leadership, Choji became confident, Ino is a determined girl, they lost Asuma but continued to grow, they had their closure with him during the war). Now I just need to ask, we will see more full circle development, but does anyone honestly think that Sakura is somehow incapable of loving Naruto and that after all this development SS is still somehow going to occur or NH should just get rammed into our faces? People don't suspect Hinata's ending being more towards confident and able to lead her clan? Yeah its going to stink for her to not have Naruto for NS but really who's story is this? Narutos or Hinatas? Naruto is the main character, its his trails and ordeals that matter most, especially when we have seen many times, some of his deepest stuff hinges around Sakura. Still no deep love moments from Naruto to Hinata, I mean until they get something like 457 where we find out why Naruto does not confess, NH is still missing a lot. Why would kishi dump NS after putting a good amount of emphasis on it and hardly any on NH? Thats all I need to say, yet people think the smallest stuff will promote NH despite how much NS stuff has been laid out. Again all I can say is the 3 things NS has going for it people just need to deal with:

1. NaruSaku has the most attention, screentime, and development, its the most complex and built. We have more NS moments than Hinata even appears.

2. Naruto has loved Sakura for the entirety of the manga, not once in any other form of media is there with Naruto showing more than a simple flashback of Hinata defending him from pain. This was the only thing Naruto did in terms of returning aside from small talk to her. Yet we see much more on NS side. 631 made it clear that he practically loves her still, even at the aspect of her being his girlfriend (as much as he would want that). If 469 and even 615 didn't turn him, don't know what would. Heck there was even a filler about him saying he still loves Sakura and yet nothing in any form of media of him doubting his love for her or looking more towards Hinata, this is what I find the greatest plot hole for that argument of Naruto being over Sakura, for so much not loving her anymore, the manga, anime, and even a move RtN, have emphasis that he likes her and can get along with her. Yet there is not even a tiny shred of NH advancement anywhere.

3. Sakura's relation with Naruto has changed dynamically, started as hate and how she holds him in high regard, she cares for him a lot, she is best friends, possibly soon to be more with him. She is starting to doubt Sasuke, yet she has doubted her love for him. She is happy with Naruto, she has proven this again and again. Sakura can love Naruto in the end, yet this is impossible to many people.



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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:31 AM

 

Well its just a matter if some people realize if the story even allows for a pairing to take place. NS definitely has a chance, the biggest by far. If anything NS as a relation has gotten the most focus in the series aside from Naruto and Sasuke for that brotherhood relation. NH can it happen? Yeah but its a slim chance and its going to be harder to make when kishi has left out so much time on it he could have used to develop it. Many missed opportunities means it would look even weaker if he didn't get to work on it as much as he could have back in the pain or 4th war arc. Not to mention with 631, its going to be even harder to imagine now. People like to say he messes and teases us with NS as a red herring or trolls the pairings evenly but honest to god, no he does not. He most likely doesn't even care, does he know? Sure but people still missing the point on 469, him even saying he felt he decepted an honest girl who though stubborn truly cares for Naruto, its not that she tried to confess to Naruto, she was trying to save him from his own stubbornness and her own overrelaiance on him, she was concerned for his well-being plain and simple yet others act as if she was somehow trying to manipulate him for her own gain, she only wanted his safety above all. SasuSaku on the other hand, its near death. No way in hell is Sasuke ever going to love Sakura, rather any reason. For a guy who had not even thought much of her when they were friends and just simple comrades, I don't know why people suddenly expect this to come true. Sasuke getting all warm and fuzzy feelings is just crazier than the golden byakugan theory. Sasuke does not do nice. But as it is, NS has everything laid out, Sakura's development will lead to something in the end with Naruto.

 

The greatest irony of claims against NS for people using 615 as Neji dying for NH to come true, they completely missed the point of 615. Neji died on his own choice and freewill out of protecting Naruto and Hinata, aka to come full circle, he originally hated both of them and wanted to kill Hinata, look what he did, his end was him freely choosing to intercept the wood stake not because it was his duty as a member of the side branch, it was his own free will and he chose to die to protect them. This was his development full circle, he was free to make his own choice on protecting others. he sacrificed himself out of wanting to save them, not for romance. He simply moved because he chose to freely sacrifice himself. This is what is funny, many don't realize this was Neji's full circle development, Slextrem actually had a video on 615 for the time which said this. Now in this full circle development, its like people can accept things on Naruto and Sasuke's ends for Naruto being accepted and an acknowledged hokage and Sasuke no longer claiming revenge seeing he has a future back home in the leaf. But they think its a god damned impossibility for Sakura to love Naruto. They think the aspect of her hating Naruto in the start but loving him in the end is just too complex and hard to believe. Hey if 635 has Sakura turning away from Sasuke and she still views Naruto as practically her best friend, then what are we to think here that SS will still magically come true or that perhaps 631 and 635 may start to lean at something else, aka Kushina's foreshadow and Sakura gaining affection for Naruto? To many this is impossible.Yet is simple full circle development, we have seen it with Neji (mentioned above), Gaara (hated everyone and was feared by all, father tried to kill him, in the end he forgave his father, found out his uncle didn't actually hate him at all, and even said his father did what he thought was right, now look he is the loved kazekage), team 10 (were a disfuctional group at first but became better, grew up together, Shikamaru accepted a mantle of leadership, Choji became confident, Ino is a determined girl, they lost Asuma but continued to grow, they had their closure with him during the war). Now I just need to ask, we will see more full circle development, but does anyone honestly think that Sakura is somehow incapable of loving Naruto and that after all this development SS is still somehow going to occur or NH should just get rammed into our faces? People don't suspect Hinata's ending being more towards confident and able to lead her clan? Yeah its going to stink for her to not have Naruto for NS but really who's story is this? Narutos or Hinatas? Naruto is the main character, its his trails and ordeals that matter most, especially when we have seen many times, some of his deepest stuff hinges around Sakura. Still no deep love moments from Naruto to Hinata, I mean until they get something like 457 where we find out why Naruto does not confess, NH is still missing a lot. Why would kishi dump NS after putting a good amount of emphasis on it and hardly any on NH? Thats all I need to say, yet people think the smallest stuff will promote NH despite how much NS stuff has been laid out. Again all I can say is the 3 things NS has going for it people just need to deal with:

1. NaruSaku has the most attention, screentime, and development, its the most complex and built. We have more NS moments than Hinata even appears.

2. Naruto has loved Sakura for the entirety of the manga, not once in any other form of media is there with Naruto showing more than a simple flashback of Hinata defending him from pain. This was the only thing Naruto did in terms of returning aside from small talk to her. Yet we see much more on NS side. 631 made it clear that he practically loves her still, even at the aspect of her being his girlfriend (as much as he would want that). If 469 and even 615 didn't turn him, don't know what would. Heck there was even a filler about him saying he still loves Sakura and yet nothing in any form of media of him doubting his love for her or looking more towards Hinata, this is what I find the greatest plot hole for that argument of Naruto being over Sakura, for so much not loving her anymore, the manga, anime, and even a move RtN, have emphasis that he likes her and can get along with her. Yet there is not even a tiny shred of NH advancement anywhere.

3. Sakura's relation with Naruto has changed dynamically, started as hate and how she holds him in high regard, she cares for him a lot, she is best friends, possibly soon to be more with him. She is starting to doubt Sasuke, yet she has doubted her love for him. She is happy with Naruto, she has proven this again and again. Sakura can love Naruto in the end, yet this is impossible to many people.

THIS . Man I hope Kishi can squeeze this pairing in at the end . A simple kiss would do it for me if nothing else . 


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:12 AM

Wonder what would happen if neither pairing happens

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:18 AM

Wonder what would happen if neither pairing happens

that would really be messed up on Kishi's part because that means he was using the pairings just for money , I bet he knew some people was very emotional about the pairings and if this is the case since he was building it up so much to make us believe it would happen and it never does , Kishimoto isn't a very nice person at all imo if he does this  . 


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:25 AM

Wonder what would happen if neither pairing happens

These so called pairing wars would never end. :arg:

 

I think this will happen with Bleach actually. XD


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:51 AM

Wonder what would happen if neither pairing happens

 

Infinite fanfic and fanart wars.  :argh:



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Posted 10 August 2013 - 03:00 AM

I just gained my faith back in Kishi , I was thinking to myself , why would Kishimoto deny Naruto anything he wanted , when Kishimoto had Jairaya clearly state out what he failed at .? Isn't the new gen supposed to surpass the old gen in all aspects .? I hope he don't let me down . 

 

I mean lets be real right now , Yes Naruto's love is selfless for Sakura and all he wants is Sakura to be happy , but then would Naruto truly be happy if Sakura ends going to Sasuke .? He would be to a certain point just because Sakura is happy , but he wouldn't be at 100 because he will always love Sakura and Kishi has made this clear and edged in stone it is , yes he would accept it but he would be really sad . Naruto would tear up inside everyday and I know it . Thats why Naruto needs to be with his Sakura Chan ,because with her he will truly be happy . I feel like he deserves a chance with Sakura , and I know Sakura will give it to him . I guess I feel so strongly about it because Naruto reminds me of myself and I'm in a similar situation like Naruto . I'm in love with her while she likes another dude . 


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 04:09 AM

Well rather one of the biggest things I said a while back, pre 631 ns and nh were all over Kushina for who she was like. 631 comes around, it divided the views of the nh fanbase immensely, some say ok it matters but its not proof, that minato does not know sakura or naruto, that naruto shouldn't listen to his mother (despite all these fans were pre 631'all claiming hinata like Kushina and part of the same bandwagon then they just leap to this reason), I've even seen people still going on about how naruto is still in love with hinata despite nothing ever have been shown for him turning towards hinata. Many go on saying nh will get this big moment, but what can hinata do at this point? Do we really need her to act as a human meat shield a 3rd time? Hinatas actions so far sadly always involved someone being hurt, I'm sorry can we get one major moment without anyone getting pummeled please? This is why if sakura is called a jerk, hinata is an occupational hazard, seriously what kind of bad luck has followed her? Every event someone is hurt. I seriously think that sakura or anyone else is in danger right now if she acts brashly, heck obito is the one I danger if she does something. Please we don't need her rushing in, even then sakura still has the potential to join the fight or do something with tsunade due to their powers. What can hinata do In this situation aside from just helping sakura keep informed? That's the deal with hinata right now, following 633 where is Kishi exactly going with her? She had her moment in 615, it wasn't built on much, naruto liking the idea of sakura as his girlfriend practically claiming he still loves her, sakura being linked to Kushina, now sakura hating Sasuke. What are people going to expect now, SS dying but nh still comes true? That's just it, hinata remains a mystery right now. Just having a hand holding moment isn't going to spell instant canon for nh. 632 didn't do that for ns either but it sure gave an important foreshadow build, like it or not sakura is the only girl compared to Kushina so far, and otherwise can anyone think of a logical or meaningful reason for minato to suddenly see hinata or speak to her and somehow make another Kushina connection, I mean seriously do they expect that? 631 gave a result of people freaking out despite the obvious hints. I mean seriously if people were suprised at 631 how many people seriously were not paying attention, some of this stuff is freaking easy to understand, I don't understand why so many people could not see who Kushina resembled just from her backstory and flashback. Ah tempered background, hated a blonde who loved her, hated a feature about herself, etc. must be hinata. Makes perfect sense rather than her background being linked to family issues, a tough father, etc. if Kushina had a similar background to hinata, it would have been considerbly more like we saw with naruto and hinata in the manga. But seriously the like father like son thing here is just too obvious, I cannot understand how something so easy is warped so much. Again, if people suddenly start going wait sakura gave up on Sasuke? I really don't know how to respond. Are people missing some things so easily hinted?

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 04:59 AM

So...I just spent the last week while I was sick re-reading the entire manga. It took a while, but after reading the entire thing...I have to ask myself what's going on in the heads on NH supporters, especially the desperate ones.  I have a few online friends I keep in touch with on a site that was once neutral to the pairings, but has been overrun by NH fans. You wouldn't believe the amount of BS they post there! There was one person who said:

 

'"You can't rely on manga evidence" 

 

Excuse me, but what?! You can't rely on manga evidence?! I'm gonna feel bad for this guy/gal if/when NS actually happens. 

 

I just finished reading the entire manga up to this point, and well...I just don't get it. Other than her confession, the chunin exams and chapter 615...there's just nothing that indicates NaruHina. NaruSaku looks as obvious as a house fire to me. But I guess we can't all have the same viewpoints. But still...saying you can't rely on manga evidence? And say NS fans are the desperate ones??? Maybe you need to find a new anime or hobby, my friend, because you're WAY too desperate for a fictional pairing to happen.



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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:27 AM

At this rate, I think we lost ourselves and to be honest, the war probably lost our track. I don't know but after reading many comments, I think we are always on the right track. The one thing to worry really is if the ending will have NaruSaku becoming canon. Scratch that, we should worry if Kishi will do it justice. You may be saying I am cocky, but honestly, I really think we gotten too deep that Kishi probably didn't think about it and decided to mess our mind that is still the same, vague but we make a big deal. I don't know, don't mind me, it does seem obvious. I think what makes me like it is the story behind, but that's another story.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 10:59 AM

At this rate, I think we lost ourselves and to be honest, the war probably lost our track. I don't know but after reading many comments, I think we are always on the right track. The one thing to worry really is if the ending will have NaruSaku becoming canon. Scratch that, we should worry if Kishi will do it justice. You may be saying I am cocky, but honestly, I really think we gotten too deep that Kishi probably didn't think about it and decided to mess our mind that is still the same, vague but we make a big deal. I don't know, don't mind me, it does seem obvious. I think what makes me like it is the story behind, but that's another story.


Really we are just waiting on more stuff from the manga. Least we have some debate stuff like how will ns occur or what events should come up to trigger a ns moment.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:59 AM

Really we are just waiting on more stuff from the manga. Least we have some debate stuff like how will ns occur or what events should come up to trigger a ns moment.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:17 PM

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Me: Uchiha Revival?
Uchiha Revival: Yeah?
Me: Sasuke's gay. How can that happen?
Uchiha Revival: How can what happen?
Me: Exactly.


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:20 PM

Funny convoy on League of Legends.

Uchiha Revival has entered the room.
 
Me: Uchiha Revival?
Uchiha Revival: Yeah?
Me: Sasuke's gay. How can that happen?
Uchiha Revival: How can what happen?
Me: Exactly.



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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

Well rather one of the biggest things I said a while back, pre 631 ns and nh were all over Kushina for who she was like. 631 comes around, it divided the views of the nh fanbase immensely, some say ok it matters but its not proof, that minato does not know sakura or naruto, that naruto shouldn't listen to his mother (despite all these fans were pre 631'all claiming hinata like Kushina and part of the same bandwagon then they just leap to this reason), I've even seen people still going on about how naruto is still in love with hinata despite nothing ever have been shown for him turning towards hinata. Many go on saying nh will get this big moment, but what can hinata do at this point? Do we really need her to act as a human meat shield a 3rd time? Hinatas actions so far sadly always involved someone being hurt, I'm sorry can we get one major moment without anyone getting pummeled please? This is why if sakura is called a jerk, hinata is an occupational hazard, seriously what kind of bad luck has followed her? Every event someone is hurt. I seriously think that sakura or anyone else is in danger right now if she acts brashly, heck obito is the one I danger if she does something. Please we don't need her rushing in, even then sakura still has the potential to join the fight or do something with tsunade due to their powers. What can hinata do In this situation aside from just helping sakura keep informed? That's the deal with hinata right now, following 633 where is Kishi exactly going with her? She had her moment in 615, it wasn't built on much, naruto liking the idea of sakura as his girlfriend practically claiming he still loves her, sakura being linked to Kushina, now sakura hating Sasuke. What are people going to expect now, SS dying but nh still comes true? That's just it, hinata remains a mystery right now. Just having a hand holding moment isn't going to spell instant canon for nh. 632 didn't do that for ns either but it sure gave an important foreshadow build, like it or not sakura is the only girl compared to Kushina so far, and otherwise can anyone think of a logical or meaningful reason for minato to suddenly see hinata or speak to her and somehow make another Kushina connection, I mean seriously do they expect that? 631 gave a result of people freaking out despite the obvious hints. I mean seriously if people were suprised at 631 how many people seriously were not paying attention, some of this stuff is freaking easy to understand, I don't understand why so many people could not see who Kushina resembled just from her backstory and flashback. Ah tempered background, hated a blonde who loved her, hated a feature about herself, etc. must be hinata. Makes perfect sense rather than her background being linked to family issues, a tough father, etc. if Kushina had a similar background to hinata, it would have been considerbly more like we saw with naruto and hinata in the manga. But seriously the like father like son thing here is just too obvious, I cannot understand how something so easy is warped so much. Again, if people suddenly start going wait sakura gave up on Sasuke? I really don't know how to respond. Are people missing some things so easily hinted?

 

Its easier to get passed them , her ''love'' for Sasuke was reconfirmed a couple of chapters 468 ,540 heck people believe she creaming his name first (blushing/fangirling) is prove of her love or Sasuke has feelings for her by simply saying her name. How does that begin to make sense it alludes me every single day if i think/write about it ..
They don't believe that she ever loved/felt something about Naruto in the first place because of those chapters , but they avoid the previous 500 + where there is panel time between Naruto+ Sakura developing , growing , sharing pain and secrets .
Mostly in part 2 she became more found of him , seeing him more as a man who is capable of great things and more importantly who can give moral support every time. Sure that can be said that he is her best friend and i will agree to that if she romantically loves Sasuke the interaction between NS seems like one sided and platonic. Even though we know its more than that we've seen many many scenes of her smiling/admiring warming up to him without he to prove his love to her .
 

The problem began since chapter 3 and the bench scene Ive looked at it very very carefully and saw that this is what makes her love Sasuke there is nothing more , seriously.. Either than being cool and indifferent what is more to add ? Yep , i got nothing .
Naruto's ''little'' comment on Sakura's forehead made her dream come true and she is in love with that fake Sasuke , that is what i think. Naruto's plan backfired and that made her love/like Sasuke even more.. I remember him stating that he will go act like a jerk to Sakura disguised as Sasuke again making her loathing him. Unfortunately that didn't happen and he  got her mislead  .
Following the path of logic Sakura loves 2 Naruto's  just the Sasuke one more ^^. Her feelings for SAsuke in part 1 were stressed more then once , seeing an illusion of him filled with kunai and a broken leg , then his head cut off and sitting on the ground , the chuunin exam , his incapacitation from Itachi , made her cry and she huged/hold him tight . Here i agree with Inferno that her real feelings for Naruto were stressed too many times , but she thinks she loves SAsuke so people and herself can't acknowledge those feelings she keeps bottled up inside for Naruto. She will get another shock , that much we can agree right? I mean if she sees Naruto half dead /dead what will her reaction be? H&E bridge or OVA2011? My point is , you don't know what you are missing until you lose it . And I'm pretty sure Kishimoto is gonna stress her or even make her cry.

SS wont happen guys its simply illogical and incomprehensible. Imagine , Sasuke is redeemed back in the village so what happens?
What is Sakura gonna do? Jump on Sasuke's neck and kiss him? Maybe.. maybe not . If this redemption has the magical powers to install feelings into Sasuke and render Sakura's development and interaction with Naruto to her 1st part counter part then Kishi has created an indescribable manga . Sasuke never even liked her or viewed her in that way i mean romantically , he has had 0 interest in romance what so ever . Bromance , sure , but romance nope.  Its .. not happening from a narrative point anyway and if we follow logic .

He loves her so much that he tried to murder her and Naruto several times ? She herself tried to do so too? What kind of relationship is this gonna end or be ? I can't begin to believe or imagine it .. Though I've been seeing stuff like '' the healing will begin'' .. what healing ? I just don't know.. Sakura doesn't understand or even comes close to his heart .. the only person is Naruto and from that narrative point it supports NaruSasu (sadly :D ) .

NH hasn't got any chances ,sad but true . Naruto loves Sakura and even if the inconceivable happens and SS becomes canon , do you think he will jump to Hinata , just because he can't have Sakura? I remember him saying '' Hey dad Sakura is my GF.. Her answer? .....

How will that turn up to be? Naruto going to her and saying '' HEY, i just developed feelings for you , lets go'' Nope , it doesn't work that way , not in NH not in SS . That's cruel and disgusting for the other side , isn't it? Or that is just me ^^?

Naruto parallels Jiraiya in almost every aspect , did Jiraiya moved on after he was rejected multiple times from Tsunade ? No.
There you have it folks . There is no going back or from 631 even with 100 asspulls it can't be changed so easly ...


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:45 PM

'"You can't rely on manga evidence" 

 

Excuse me, but what?! You can't rely on manga evidence?! I'm gonna feel bad for this guy/gal if/when NS actually happens. 

 

I just finished reading the entire manga up to this point, and well...I just don't get it. Other than her confession, the chunin exams and chapter 615...there's just nothing that indicates NaruHina. NaruSaku looks as obvious as a house fire to me. But I guess we can't all have the same viewpoints. But still...saying you can't rely on manga evidence? And say NS fans are the desperate ones??? Maybe you need to find a new anime or hobby, my friend, because you're WAY too desperate for a fictional pairing to happen.

 

What the actual f***? Do these people even hear themselfs talk/write... No wonder they got trolled and another big slap is coming along ..
 

Are they watching/reading a soap opera or something else?
Nope scratch that idea its stupid..


Edited by Psychox, 10 August 2013 - 12:46 PM.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:47 PM

Funny convoy on League of Legends.

Uchiha Revival has entered the room.

 

Me: Uchiha Revival?
Uchiha Revival: Yeah?
Me: Sasuke's gay. How can that happen?
Uchiha Revival: How can what happen?
Me: Exactly.

 

We can only assume that he is hetero by default ... He has shown 0 interest in romance ..


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:24 PM

 

We can only assume that he is hetero by default ... He has shown 0 interest in romance ..

I still think he is probably kitten . 


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