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[Sakura~]

Am I only one that thinks that the movie is Hinting at part 3 of Naruto ?

I will forever pray for a part 3 :(

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

lol. Why do you have a problem with the main character being the hero of the story? You're pretty much wrong here, but whatever.

I have a problem with the main character being the complete definition of Gary Stu and having pratically no development at all, i could not see it only on the romance aspect of the plot.
 

Yuuki only shows up for a little while in SAO and then disappears for a good portion of it. In ALO, yeah she is there, but she isn't a cheating device and she doesn't have admin commands. Asuna pretty much held her own all throughout SAO and only was put down during the final fight. ALO she was the princess in the tower kind of thing, but it was only one small arc and she actually tried to escape a few times.

You're right that she disappears in SAO but that doesnt prevent that DEUS EX MACHINA ENDING OF SAO when he despite already being dead, a miracle ocurred on the system and while he was vanishing he landed the finishing blow on Heatcliff.
About Asuna, she's a great warrior and a strong leader that becomes support character for the hero and nothing else more.
Just for the Gary Stu the main shines and that's a problem.
 

You also only read maybe a partial of the series you know. There is so many more arcs that show so much more. Of course, these complaints I could apply to every anime/manga and such: Asuka and Shinji, Vash and Meryll, Kaoru and Kenshin. Actually that last line fits more with your compaints than SAO does. Kaoru who is supposed to be the master of her father's dojo is reduced to nothing more than damsel in distress and doesn't help Kenshin at all....but is supposed to be this great warrior.

That's the main problem with animes, the anime is bad, and overrated.
Too many timeskips and we have 12 episodes for 2 arcs, the second half the Alfheim online people barely used magic on a magic world.
The fighting scenes are little and the anime should have been a presentation of the light novel, that's why the first season should had been only about SAO but still it has that flaws i told about, the main being a Gary Stu, a "beater", soloing bosses on a MMO and etc...

I dont even need to point out that on Alfheim Online he received root admin access on the system with only his mental power that's how you surpass GM's.
 (i know the spirit of Kabaya).

You never read the light novels have you?

Not Sword Art Online.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 July 2014 - 07:38 PM.

[oksus]

Except dbz is better.

In my opinion it is not.
Naruto has better written characters and until lately, the power-scaling wasn't nowhere near as ridiculous.
I feel that if Kishimoto takes that route, he will ruin Naruto.

[Geninja]

Naruto is just going to turn into another DBZ

 

I hope not it's time to end it, the anime's already suffering because of the no ending. Way too much filler. It needs to end. I think it will, seems like it's going that route. 

 

To be fair I wouldn't object to a DBZ esque thing where Naruto/Sakura are a family and their son is gonna be some big hero kind of deal or daughter.

 

I do not want Sakura reduced to a Chi Chi role, heck no. Let her fight with the best of them.

Edited by Geninja, 23 July 2014 - 07:37 PM.

[oksus]

I will forever pray for a part 3 :(

As long as it is not DBZ style, I wouldn't mind it.

[deviouslyChaotic]

I hope to god there's no "part 3." Jfc Naruto's been going on long enough just wrap everything up after the war ends and that should be that. Everything SHOULD be resolved by that point. Perhaps a small epilogue might be ok, but adding a whole other part is just nonsensical.

[Geninja]

I hope to god there's no "part 3." Jfc Naruto's been going on long enough just wrap everything up after the war ends and that should be that. Everything SHOULD be resolved by that point. Perhaps a small epilogue might be ok, but adding a whole other part is just nonsensical.

 

Agree with this. 

[Lilac]

If Sasuke suddenly developed romantic feelings for Sakura after treating her like kitten and trying to kill her and let her die  then I seriously have to question Kishimoto sanity and moral values and ask his brother to please gave him his medication . Doing that now only destroys the romance in Naruto by making Sasuke suddenly a sociopath bc in that case Kishi will portray a very sick love and take it into an acount that this is a story still for children so I really don't know the message that he will sent to those kids is morally good for them or anyone for that matter . So in short it ain't happening he might be a troll but not insane .  

 

Well at least someone understands cover or not this gives SS credibility to a very kitten paring its disgusting to consider their development as a paring one but by doing this he  lowers NS's credibility not to mention Sakura for the way he portrayed her in here trust me you don't want to go to the other sites especially those who are anti Sakura . But yeah I agree with you as well no more games and subtle hints now is the time for the real deal and moments if he seriously wants to handle NS canon as well done and not at the last minute we care about the journey the most not whether is just canon or not .  

 

If part II had never happened, I could have begrudingly accepted SS. The attempted murder ruined it...It makes me uneasy. Obito, while under Madara's influence, is basically responsible for Naruto's parents/Neji's deaths, yet he's a redeemed forgiven hero now. I'm not trying to be negative perse, just more objective. It'll be a lot less disappointing for me that way if things keep going south for us.

 

I really like the interpretation that the SS cover just means Sasuke was holding up Sakura last chapter, but...If it's supposed to be a comparison to last chapter, why isn't it Obito instead of Kakashi/Naruto on the other horses? And why it vaguely romantic, with the blushing and whatnot? Last chapter wasn't romantic.

[luffyq1]

In my opinion it is not.
Naruto has better written characters and until lately, the power-scaling wasn't nowhere near as ridiculous.
I feel that if Kishimoto takes that route, he will ruin Naruto.

Having Characters that are better written than Naruto isn't something to write home about. Dbz didn't become arguably the most popular anime of all time because of its decent writing.

[Gojira]

.....And then Kishi gives us a huge NS moment in the upcoming chapters and everyone will forget the stupid cover art, and 685, and be over excited and such....just like how everyone forgot a lot of things in the past because apparently we live moment by moment.
From the way I see it, Kishi has every fandom at the edge of his seat. NS, NH, SS...we are all actually in the same canoe, but we all have paddles going in different directions and instead of going straight we are just going in circles. It's just funny how some feel Kishi is against us when he basically is toying with every fandom. Naruto hasn't changed his feelings and shown no hints of doing so, Sasuke hasn't changed his feelings and show no hints of doing so, Sakura....is up in the air and we can't decide what is real (Though I still take Kakashi's words to heart), Hinata hasn't changed at all, and Karin hasn't changed at all.
Welcome to the apparently straight line affect of Kishi romance subplot:
Hinata---->Naruto----->Sakura------->?
Karin ---->Sasuke----->Itachi/Naruto.
What's worse is when you think about it Naruto loving Hinata and Sasuke loving Sakura is OOC. Being this late in the game how could they just fall in love with someone else? Or maybe we are just toying with ourselves? How funny would it be if in the end we found out that Kishi basically says "How could you not figure it out? I thought I made it obvious" and turns out we were the ones who blinded ourselves.

It worked for BallxMei in 666 Satan

Again wondering what the difference is between this an 632

Sakura also blushed when Naruto used the male harem and admitted herself that she was a pervert. Theres a difference between finding someone attractive and being in love with someone. Look at Miroku from Inuyasha, Musica from Rave, Ginji/Ban from GetBackers every single one of this characters at
are perverts and had the hots for tge female lead but werent in love with them

Same thing with Sakura. The only thing we have to worry about is an open ending or a silver medal ending as long as Kishi scratches those both.out ill be happy however the timeskip to adulthood is what worries me

[Shizuku]

I'll be honest, I have less confidence than before. But I still want to believe that Sakura isn't in love with Sasuke. I mean, the only pairing that had an opportunity to resolve the unrequited love was NS (remember what yamato said in 297, right?). SS nor NH has that, they have huge moments too, but none compares to that moment,  in terms of what I'm talking about: A clear prove that maybe the other part was finally returning those love feelings. I know it's old, but I won't forget what yamato said, if sakura wasn't falling in love with naruto then that page shouldn't have existed .

[FireFox]

 

I am generally amused that people honestly think sasusaku is now going to be canon thanks to a cover image, enough to flood the chapter discussion about it over and over again.

 

Perhaps it would be better suited for the debate threat. Sorry, but calling Kishimoto names really rubbed me the wrong way.

Well I never even considered SS a paring to as a whole its a disaster and a poison to this manga its worse then even Twilight if that's possible what I and few others were merely pointing out is that doing kitten like in the cover gives it "some"  credibility which is rediculous in the first place . But thinking that SS is canon just by this is well     I don't even know how to put it  and you can erase me from that list for sure I talking about a totally different subject , and I get if you like him as author but for me I defended his writing long enough and what can I say lost all the respect I had for him sorry but this is how I fell Kishi has a problem with consistency in his manga and that's the truth .

 

And that is why I am saying we should probably wait....Not that you are wrong...but seriously complaining about things now will only make matters worse. Remember what We discussed in PM....

Yeah sorry bro out of respect for you I will stop now since I think my view are pretty much clear on this whole cover kitten matter stay safe  .

[Inferno180]

Tbh, about the movie, I think Kishi will adopt DBZ style with going further with the story...

 

Hard to think he would keep going if there really is a next generation deal, I mean I suspect the ending to be a start of a new generation, not needing a continuation. Ending a story with a clear future is usually a good way to end a series.

 

Otherwise for next chapter, its otherwise been shown that we got a sakura rin parallel today from kakashi, but if Obito does this next chapter, well if something is thought of between him and how he saw rin and if he even thinks of naruto with sakura like that, that may be game set and match, stuff like this kinda like 631 wouldn't be done just as a side deal if it happens again.

 

With Obito's death, I suspect this fight with Kagyua may last 10-12 more chapters since next chapter is bound to be a sad one and we get Obito's last words. I don't think Naruto or Sasuke will be able to get him out of this one with their seals.

[六道仙人]

no obito-senpai cannot die without having seen SS babies <3

 

new movie will be around Naruto's becoming Hokage... I'm sure about this... he will be around 20-23 years old....

[Geninja]

I don't understand this hope for Part 3. Some people in here are already impatient as hell when it comes to the ships. Evidenced by last nights utter meltdown over an AU cover of all things. Why the heck do you want this war with the other pairings and this doubt to continue to plague you guys for multiple years more? If there is a part 3 do you guys think the pairings would be wrapped up in part 2? Have we not learned by now?

 

I think the more clearer understanding is people want a part 3 but only if the pairings are resolved and it's Naruto/his child and perhaps Sakura(not in a Chi Chi role) or the next generation or whatever.

Edited by Geninja, 23 July 2014 - 07:46 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Sorry to say it but... you cannot actually say covers mean nothing. Look at the last cover ... A short respite from an arduous journey which was the cover before they got to Kaguya's world. The design of the cover was a short description of what was about to come: Team 7 going to Kaguya's dimensions, Sakura holding onto Naruto pointing towards the castle which in manga was traduced as Sakura working together with Naruto to get Sasuke back, Sasuke was far-away looking at his bow like he was out of the picture which in the manga was traduced as Sasuke being thrown off in the separate dimension and Kakashi in the back just standing there doing nothing which represented in the manga as he currently was: uncapable of helping in any way.

So covers DO tell something and I'm sorry to say it but the truth here is that Kishi is screwing-up his own writing. And all for what? For ship tease and all that kitten?

Why couldn't have he made Sakura stay on a separate horse like the others? I am not bothered by his drawing per se, I am bothered by its representation and the way he is contradicting his own manga and ruining some development and its image.
How the hell can you tell me that, as a new reader, you're supposed to pick-up that Sakura has no feelings for Sasuke when he draws her blushing? Come on, let's not try to find the man excuses anymore. In the end, in this whole pathetic war between fans, he does have its guilt. Things could've been made differently and we all know it.
And I would say more but... I think I'm gonna stop here because idk if people will really understand that this trespasses the innocent play with pairings, it's about consistency at this point. It all kittening went downhill after Pein Arc. But meh, I digress...

My problem with this is is how selective we have become as a fanbase to what we deem is important and what isn't. We sit here and we look at all this stuff we deem as "proof," but too many times have I seen people look at something NS related and people tell them "Don't be delusional," "That means nothing," "You're looking too deep," "That doesn't represent the manga story," et cetera.

But bring in something NH or SS related and all of a sudden it apparently "proves" without a doubt that SS and NH become canon? It proves without a doubt about everything? You either accept all of it or you accept none of it. I rather accept none of it because I could easily manipulate the results any way I want to.

"Oh look, a manga cover with Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, and Ino on it. That means that NarutoIno/NaruSaku/SasuSaku/SasuIno/SasuNaru/SakuIno is canon."

What makes me even more frustrated is when people lie and say they don't do this and every week I see them do it all the time. I poke at the irony of Naruto and Sakura being on the cover of Shonen Jumps and the media seeing NaruSaku as the main focus only for people tell me I am being delusional. If we are going to accept this, then I say we accept everything ranging from the movies, to advertisements, to Kishi drawn posters, to everything Naruto related and more.

That's the most fair I can say otherwise being selective just proves paranoia.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 July 2014 - 07:57 PM.

[narusaku256]

Well I never even considered SS a paring to as a whole its a disaster and a poison to this manga its worse then even Twilight if that's possible what I and few others were merely pointing out is that doing kitten like in the cover gives it "some"  credibility which is rediculous in the first place . But thinking that SS is canon just by this is well     I don't even know how to put it  and you can erase me from that list for sure I talking about a totally different subject , and I get if you like him as author but for me I defended his writing long enough and what can I say lost all the respect I had for him sorry but this is how I fell Kishi has a problem with consistency in his manga and that's the truth .
 
Yeah sorry bro out of respect for you I will stop now since I think my view are pretty much clear on this whole cover kitten matter stay safe  .

Now there you go! Yes! I think everyone gets full well what we and the others wanted to say. We can stop now since 'cover pic' or the moment is really not our issue! Stay safe XD. Yeah! And....thanks anyways

Edited by narusaku256, 23 July 2014 - 07:48 PM.

[Nostradamus]

No, I haven't lost faith in NS, I said this multiple times. My pet-peeve is with how Kishi chooses to screw with NaruSaku's image, that's all. As well with Sakura's image, because as I said multiple times, before being a fan of NS I am a fan of Sakura.

So let's take this on turns: Sakura is the heroine of this manga, right? Then why have her shown just riding on the back while the others do the action? When was the last time we had a cool cover with her showing some cool action, like it happens when it comes to Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi? No, she's just there to be pretty eyes, sometimes damsel in distress. Why not have her riding her own horse and shooting motherf***ing ninjas or whatever, like the others? What's she's not deemable? All that it is to her is a background? Does she need rescue all the time? Why it has to be always at Sakura's expense? And we wonder ourselves why 99.99% of this fandom considers her useless.

 

So finally you saw the light, Georgiana. You finally understood how Kishi writes Sakura. Understanding his method with her is easy.

Kishi always gives one amazing moment in the story, something that makes Naruto look like an complete moron. Example when Sasuke arrived, Naruto glued his lips to Sasuke arse, while Sakura remained skeptic about Sasuke. And I could go on and on.

 

But then for no reason all the development she gets is somehow lost for the next 4-5 moments. She becomes a damsel in distress or as most people call her useless. And when you stop and think about her previous moments you go "huh what the hell happened?" where did all that greatness vanish?

[FreakySandra1995]

At times like this, I wish I could make a funny video again, so everyone might be able to relax and have fun. What a shame there are not any clips available who would suit the situation.

[Gojira]

Hate it when i spend alot of time on a comment and people just ignore it