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#521 Nate River

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:38 AM

Which makes me question on about the fandoms own mentality.

We are starting to care more about the love affair of the manga, than the actual story. This isn't a harem

I understand people are annoyed, but the fact that some take it so far as to start quite a rukus over something so innocent really shows how desperate the Naruto fandom can be sometimes. That's why, to me, there was no NH moment. Just Naruto doing his thing, Hinata doing her thing, and everyone doing theirs.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:42 AM

Well 2 more weeks until we have to deal with infamous 615 moment in naruto shippuden -_-............god let there be a NS moment before then :D lol

Oh and also please please please PLEASE!!! at least one time in the manga can Sakura punch Sasuke for being an a**hole!!! That would be Awesome!!! Lol

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:56 AM

So, any ideas on what these Edo Hokages can do? We have a guy who is still stabbed in place, we have a guy who is probably still low on chakra, that time will tell on that, we have a guy who just saw all of his people got wiped out and perhaps the only guy that can fight, and we have a guy who is armless and pretty much can be comical by saying, "I can't feel my arms." So, any ideas?

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:59 AM

No falling out of love with someone who degrades you, ignores you and tries to kill you 3 times is a pretty valid reason for any person with commom sense, logic and dignity(execpt in Kishi's world of course). That she still has romantic aspirations for Sasuke right now doesn't make her character any justice, it just makes her a fool.
Sakura choosing Naruto over Sasuke is good for NS but I don't see how it's good for her character, her feelings for Sasuke and the love triangle hurt her character more than anything else.

This is the example why the love triangle on this manga sucks.
It's basically the same thing during the confession, she knew he's evil and she still loved him and now she's falling out of love for the same reasons she recited on her confession towards Naruto.
But then comes the problem that Sasuke will be redeemed and will care about his teammates aswell.
Bringing that her whole reasons of her falling out of love from Sasuke becoming null and void.

Because he would be no longer the same Sasuke who tried to kill her three times and didnt cared about her.
The solely reason why Googleismyfriend think like that is to avoid this bs.

Also Sakura choosing Naruto over Sasuke is good for NS as long as it doesnt give the impression that Naruto is the second choice which appears to be with the current development.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:05 PM

Oddly enough, shouldn't you be happy that you know she's out of the picture. You made it sound like once they get out of Susanoo, Naruto will fly out and sense Hinata one and Madara would be like, "Why are you trying to save one?" Naruto would go all flashbacks on Hinata and probably in the next chapter, she is free while all aren't.

Not that I'm agreeing with NH but I don't think that's how they'll see it. From what I've read, they see it as Hinata being the alarm to wake Naruto, which will prompt him to rescue Hinata and then the others. They don't see him as singling her out and ignoring the others, more like her being the catalyst for the rescue.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:05 PM

So, any ideas on what these Edo Hokages can do? We have a guy who is still stabbed in place, we have a guy who is probably still low on chakra, that time will tell on that, we have a guy who just saw all of his people got wiped out and perhaps the only guy that can fight, and we have a guy who is armless and pretty much can be comical by saying, "I can't feel my arms." So, any ideas?

Naruto and Sakura, Hashirama and Tobirama, Hiruzen and Sasuke, Minato and Kakashi vs Madara? Btw, Naruto and Sakura not for pairing's sake, but she really needs someone stronger with her. Sakura and Kakashi will be weak relative to the other two man teams. That's why Kakashi goes with Minato(Were in same team so better combination and they form a peefect tag team. Two genius in one team) and Naruto goes with Sakura(They have the best teamwork. It was stated at the beginning of Part 2 during the bell test by Shizune). Hashirama and Tobirama in one team because they are brothers and even they had a good teamwork, apparently. Well Sasuke and Hiruzen.....dunno really.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:14 PM

This is the example why the love triangle on this manga sucks.
It's basically the same thing during the confession, she knew he's evil and she still loved him and now she's falling out of love for the same reasons she recited on her confession towards Naruto.
But then comes the problem that Sasuke will be redeemed and will care about his teammates aswell.
Bringing that her whole reasons of her falling out of love from Sasuke becoming null and void.

Because he would be no longer the same Sasuke who tried to kill her three times and didnt cared about her.
The solely reason why Googleismyfriend think like that is to avoid this bs.

Also Sakura choosing Naruto over Sasuke is good for NS as long as it doesnt give the impression that Naruto is the second choice which appears to be with the current development.

That's what Kishi wants. NS will become canon, but at the same time she'll have Sasuke on the side since he's good and all.

 

she'll get the best of both worlds (hannah montana voice)


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:36 PM

Not that I'm agreeing with NH but I don't think that's how they'll see it. From what I've read, they see it as Hinata being the alarm to wake Naruto, which will prompt him to rescue Hinata and then the others. They don't see him as singling her out and ignoring the others, more like her being the catalyst for the rescue.

I get it but the real princess is in another castle. Next to Naruto. The friends of Naruto are gone for now, but his closed bonds are alive but could be in very danger. Madara will not be like "Hey, can you go inside the tree, please?" He's going to kill them.

@narusaku256: Don't know yet. I'll keep my mouth shut. Besides, everyone is separated from Team 7 location. We don't know what these guys will do next. Lastly, many of them are handicapped, so we don't even know if they will work with Team 7 in terms of combat, especially Hashirama and Minato. Unless someone ask Naruto/Sasuke to go back and take them off.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:45 PM

tenten is our only hope..she will save the world !! :hm:



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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

tenten is our only hope..she will save the world !! :hm:

Isn't she caught?

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 01:45 PM

Is she. Who knows? I mean, I don't think she can resist IT?



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Posted 22 May 2014 - 01:51 PM

tenten is our only hope..she will save the world !! :hm:

The great Ten-Ten has a greater importance that Hinata. I love this so much.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 02:04 PM

The great Ten-Ten has a greater importance that Hinata. I love this so much.

That is if she's still around though doubt it. Still, she still holds a game changer. Who knew.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 02:51 PM

It seems that Obito and Kabuto will also be joining Team 7 and the edo hokages in the upcoming chapters.
Reason for Kabuto: He has snake senjutsu. When he battled it out with Itachi and Sasuke before he got caught in Izanami, he created a huge light to blind Itachi and Sasuke so that he can play his move. But that light could harm him too. So he had covered his eyes with some special layer which made him immune to the bright light and Itachi's genjutsu traps specifically and I guess he stated that the flaps on his eyes make him immune to any genjutsu. So MAYBE he won't be affected by IT

Reason for Obito: Well, technically he was dead when IT was activated and upon that he is an Uchiha, so when he comes back to his senses, he must be outta IT and upon that since he has BZ over him, which didn't seem to be affected by IT, it raises the chances even more.

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#535 James S Cassidy

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 02:52 PM

Starting to?

 

Yes. Believe it or not, Nate, people used to care about the main plot just as much as they cared about the pairings. When we had little or no details, the plot used to be the main focus with the occasional discussion about the pairings.

It's has gotten a lot worse and now even here. Sometimes I question whether or not some fans here are really NaruSaku fans with the way they discuss.

This is why I stopped reading about half the posts people make cause I find myself find contradictions and hypocrisies in it.

I literally can label some posts as people saying:
"All NS moments are to be taken ambiguously and with a grain of salt, but any hint or any remote chance of something being a SS or NH is to be taken straight up and seen as a threat."

This has been especially true with the last 3 chapters where apparently Kakashi saying that "Sakura's feelings have change about Sasuke" is said to be "too ambiguous to tell," yet those same people this week are taking Hinata's panel and Naruto's reaction as literally "Naruto senses Hinata specifically and now he wants to go save her cause he fell in love with her all of sudden."

I say this chapter is even more "ambiguous" than the last two chapters. To me, more than anything, I think people need to be consistent in their feelings about this manga. I don't really care what they think, but when those "thoughts" or theories becomes selective, then I find fault with it.

You can pay attention to the pairings, but don't let it be the only thing you see from it.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:16 PM

Yeah, I still don't have my goggles on, but seems like people put it back or put a new one, now with one word equal romance.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:22 PM

 
Yes. Believe it or not, Nate, people used to care about the main plot just as much as they cared about the pairings. When we had little or no details, the plot used to be the main focus with the occasional discussion about the pairings.

It's has gotten a lot worse and now even here. Sometimes I question whether or not some fans here are really NaruSaku fans with the way they discuss.

This is why I stopped reading about half the posts people make cause I find myself find contradictions and hypocrisies in it.

I literally can label some posts as people saying:
"All NS moments are to be taken ambiguously and with a grain of salt, but any hint or any remote chance of something being a SS or NH is to be taken straight up and seen as a threat."

This has been especially true with the last 3 chapters where apparently Kakashi saying that "Sakura's feelings have change about Sasuke" is said to be "too ambiguous to tell," yet those same people this week are taking Hinata's panel and Naruto's reaction as literally "Naruto senses Hinata specifically and now he wants to go save her cause he fell in love with her all of sudden."

I say this chapter is even more "ambiguous" than the last two chapters. To me, more than anything, I think people need to be consistent in their feelings about this manga. I don't really care what they think, but when those "thoughts" or theories becomes selective, then I find fault with it.

You can pay attention to the pairings, but don't let it be the only thing you see from it.


Actually James, even though I agree with you, I think Nate made a different implication with his question. Instead of actually asking if the fandom has started to care more about the pairings, I think he made the question a bit sarcastically, implying that its been quite a long time since people care more about pairings than about story plot.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:52 PM

Well 2 more weeks until we have to deal with infamous 615 moment in naruto shippuden -_-............god let there be a NS moment before then :D lol


WHAT?! Nooo, that's my birthday week!! Worst present ever made >.> Well, I hope Kishi will sweaten it at least D:

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:55 PM

Look at this way, it won't be like 166. It's covering 3 chapters, so no large overdose of filler.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 04:21 PM

do you guys think tenten still have a chance to shine :umm:

 

she finally knows what one of the sage tool does when it absorbed madara's headpiece (he threw it away to expose his forehead sharineegan)

 

and she was wishing to meet someone from the cloud village. bee comes to mind right away, if he can survive the bijuu extraction like no big deal i think he can survive tsukuyomi too.


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