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[sushi.]

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I'm glad it's not a season cliffhanger. Amon and Tarrlok's story was a nice touch. I did feel like Amon had quickly become human and weak in ten minutes though, but that's the problem with creating villains behind masks. The mask rather than the person becomes a villain most of the time. Tough balance!

I think it's true that LoK is more pairing oriented than ATLA was. Frankly, Mako is not my favourite character and some of that is due to his treatment of Asami/Korra, but I also think people are being too hard on him. You'll miss some of the show's awesomeness focusing on the pairings too much Asami/Iroh would be nice to see though!

bold: I agree, and I didn't really like the ep.08 title at first, but now I see it so well. "When extremes meet". Loved it

I wonder what season 2 will be about, I mean this feels more like an arc than a season. In ATLA, it was always one antagonist..(or 3, but they had connection).

Btw, Bryke is open for season 3, and it might happen if season 2 gets as popular as the last.

Edited by sushi., 24 June 2012 - 11:48 PM.

[jworks]

Btw, Bryke is open for season 3, and it might happen if season 2 gets as popular as the last.

That would be great but I'm curious where did you hear that?

[Greed-Sama]

That would be great but I'm curious where did you hear that?

They said it in their interview before the finale of this season.

[Sakura Blossoms]

It's interesting that so many of us here have commented that they didn't see Amon and Tarrlok as brothers coming, when at least two people here posted about it in their season finale predictions XD
So, I at least had a heads-up to that part of the finale
Lol, the first thing I thought when Tarlock admitted the truth was, "ooo, they called it!" XDD

And wow...this series is DARK. I'm sorry, it is D...A...R...K.

- Tarrlok suiciding/murdering himself and his brother
- Horrendous torture, as I literally cringed every single time someone's body was blood-bent into horrifying positions
- Father versus daughter, where the father was going to kill his own daughter
- The general darkness of the whole plot, and the unresolved feelings and issues of an entire populace, who still probably want an entire world free of benders

I'm happy that everything got resolved in the end. Very happy in fact, as I thought the season would end as every episode had ended thus far. With everyone losing. If the season had ended with Korra losing most of her bending powers, and other benders like Lin never having a chance to regain their powers, then they really all lost instead of winning. Except in a Deux Ex Machina moment of epic proportions named Aang, a happy ended was pulled out of the air at the very last moment. I love Aang for being that Deux Ex, even though the fact that this happy happy joy ending came in the very last few minutes of the episode. It just felt...as I said before...pulled out of the literal air at the very last moment.

I won't even comment on the whole Mako-Asami-Korra fiasco.

I don't want to see Asami shoved off onto Iroh, just like people tried to shove her off onto Bolin. An Asami/Iroh pairing would only work for me if Iroh treated Asami with the decency, love, and respect that Mako so clearly did not show her towards the end. He never even 'fessed up to 'the kiss' or apologized for it. And no one jump on me for having an opinion of Mako that's not sparkling. Don't flash the "he's a teenager/he has uncontrollable feelings/his flaws add to his character" lines in my face. I've read them all, and everyone is entitled to their own feelings on a character. These are mine on him. That's it.

All in all it was a decent if dark season finale. Some of it you could see coming. Some you didn't. I'm happy with the ending, even if everything got wrapped up into a neat little bow in the very last minutes.

And a final thought, I'm not sure if I'm impressed or more shocked that Nickelodeon allowed suicide/murder/torture on their airwaves during daytime.

[Chew]

^ I'm super shocked that they allowed that on the show. Just the concept of a murder on Nick pr any other children's network (or youngteens whatever) calls for extreme censorship and we hardly ever got to see characters die on screen- they're usually given an implicit death (like disney). But that explosion. Even so I loved every minute of this finale! And yes this series is very dark.

<3

[Greed-Sama]

I don't want to see Asami shoved off onto Iroh, just like people tried to shove her off onto Bolin. An Asami/Iroh pairing would only work for me if Iroh treated Asami with the decency, love, and respect that Mako so clearly did not show her towards the end. He never even 'fessed up to 'the kiss' or apologized for it. And no one jump on me for having an opinion of Mako that's not sparkling. Don't flash the "he's a teenager/he has uncontrollable feelings/his flaws add to his character" lines in my face. I've read them all, and everyone is entitled to their own feelings on a character. These are mine on him. That's it.

This. All of this.

Seriously. Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Fliss]

I don't want to see Asami shoved off onto Iroh, just like people tried to shove her off onto Bolin.

I definitely agree. I always disliked 'pair the squares' couples. I feel like people are shoving the rejects from Makorra (Asami and Bolin) together and saying "OK everything is good now!" It would feel forced :/ Same thing regarding her with Iroh. I would rather have Asami to just be independent to be honest.
If Bryke manages to pull off a realistically put together relationship for Asami, then more power to them. But I'd much rather see some more adventuring than that.

[kirabook]

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Well, I didn't know people were so pissed off about Mako. XD That comes a surprise to me.

I did feel bad for Asami, but I saw that MaKorra pairing from a mile away. I knew there was going to be some heartbreak and breakup in the end, didn't everyone else?

Now then, I need a little refresher, Mako and Korra kissed BEFORE he was with Asami right? *head scatch* if so, why should she care if they kissed before they go together? I don't like that jealous girl attitude. Things that happen outside the relationship, before or after shouldn't matter. As long as they aren't doing that kind of thing while they're in a relationship with you. I truly disliked her attitude towards Mako after that. You don't have to be nice and friendly and everything, but at least talk it out. All she did was push him away with malice when he tried to resume normal activities. Oh boy, that's going to help your relationship for sure girl.

I did feel bad that she was getting heartbroken after all she helped him with, but should he feel obligated to love her for what they did while they were in love? I mean, he wasn't using her. He obviously was quite attracted to her and liked her for who she was and not for the moola.

Relationships go sour, and what would be worse? Staying in a relationship with Asami while being in love with someone else or going ahead and breaking it off? I'm glad it ended on a peaceful note rather than that cliche "I HATE YOU AND WE'RE NO LONGER TOGETHER" mess. Yeah, Mako was quick to move onto Korra, but he was already being a bit close before that. It wasn't as sudden if you put it into perspective. Afterall, they had a certain amount of episodes to work with.


Now then, moving on from pairings since that was not the main focus of the plot, that suicide thing surprised me. No, I'm not surprised it was on Nick. Nick used to host Ren & Stimpy after all. No shocker there.

But it was just so sad. I personally don't think Taarlak murdered his brother. Amon looked sad, yet it seemed like he accepted his fate. It's almost as if he knew what his brother would due and willingly went along with it.

It was pretty strange that he dropped everything and got away so easily after he was discovered, but time restraints do matter. Boy, I'm in love with the music that plays during the scene. MUST HAVE IT SOMEDAY.

As for the ending.... it was way too quick and happy for me. I think something more should have happened for her to regain her bending...

[jworks]

Well all in all I have been pleased enough with the series so far. Yeah some things are left to be desired. For one I'm a little disappointed on how much focus there was on romance. There was just too much of it. It seemed like it was there more just to try to please the audience rather than inform the story. Yes, the goal from the start was to try to tell a more concise story and so they had to fit in a whole romance in 12 episodes. But to me that is just more reason to leave it out.

As for the very ending it was very rushed, but I am glad it had some nice closure. What I would have liked though is while having closure on this particular season, to have a hint of a brewing conflict for next season. Something left open for me to wonder about.

I really don't think this show is 'dark' in the slightest. Just look at the ending, everybody is happy and everyone even gets their bending back. It has more mature moments but while constantly promoting wholesome values. Dark would be if it questioned those values or if those values failed the hero's. For example, not once did any of the "good guys" come close to considering the equalist point of view. In my opinion, the equalist have a good point and aren't exactly extremists. It could have gotten closer to being dark if one of the characters had a serious struggle with the opposing philosophies. It is more mature and I suppose especially for a network dedicated to a young audience but the target audience from the beginning for The Legend of Korra are the fans of ATLA who are now older and more mature.

Actually the scene where Tarlock blows up the boat is hands down my favorite scene of the series so far and certainly the most moving. It was a risk for the writers and I really appreciate that.

[Saku-chan]

Having just watched the season finale, let me just say that I am very impressed by everything. Amon's back story is really cool and I'm glad that we are moving on in the plot and that it won't turn into a BLEACH-esque scenario where there is only one villain ever... EVER. (For a while at least. XD)

When I made my prediction, I was expecting that to be the end of the series, not the end of the season, but I'm glad that I was wrong. XD

In the upcoming season I hope that there will be more tie ins from the old gang. Even though the Equalists will lose steam due to Amon being a phony, I think they will return with the Lieutenant as the leader because obviously a lot of people did resent benders. I'm looking forward to how they are going to deal with that.

[Nee-sama]

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I thought the finale was epic. Jaw dropped when the air bending family was about to be debended. I think I was just as shocked as Korra at that point, even though I was not surprised her plan to expose Amon as a bender failed. Loved the ending! Loved how nearly everything got wrapped up and Aang restored Korra's bending, heretofore Korra is able to restore Lin's and everyone elses. It just wouldn't sit right to leave Lin without her earthbending. In fact, I was surprised to see so much get wrapped up. I'm left wondering what will be Korra's next battle, especially now that she's unlocked her power and she can finally be the badass avatar she's meant to be. I can not wait until season 2!

[sardns]

This just dawned on me: what will happen to the non-benders of Republic City now that the Equalist movement is dead? Sure, the Equalists were wrong to make bending illegal, bomb the streets and take innocent people's bending away, but they weren't wrong about benders oppressing them. Now, that I think about it, I'm a bit disappointed that Korra and her friends didn't see where the Equalists were coming from and try to bridge the power gap between benders and non-benders in their own way.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

This just dawned on me: what will happen to the non-benders of Republic City now that the Equalist movement is dead? Sure, the Equalists were wrong to make bending illegal, bomb the streets and take innocent people's bending away, but they weren't wrong about benders oppressing them. Now, that I think about it, I'm a bit disappointed that Korra and her friends didn't see where the Equalists were coming from and try to bridge the power gap between benders and non-benders in their own way.

With Amon's outing, the Equalist movement will lose credibility, doesn't mean that non-bender support will die down, considering what Korra has done in their defense. Hopefully, it'll be more peaceful now, instead of giant robots, bombings, and terrorism.

When I made my prediction, I was expecting that to be the end of the series, not the end of the season, but I'm glad that I was wrong. XD

You would've been correct, Korra was meant to be a 12 episode miniseries, but they got the green light to make more, so there's more seasons.

Edited by shadow_Uzumaki, 28 June 2012 - 07:45 PM.

[Abel Nightroad]

Here is my two cents.

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It took Aang 4 full seasons before he was able to Godmod and energy bend. It took Kora 12 episodes.

If you ask me, aside from the deus ex machina of it all, things seem like they might be starting on a 'Dragonball' like trend where heroes and villains just keep one upping each other in power. In other words, it could end up where the only opponent that would actually give Kora a challange, if things continue going at this rate, would be another fully trained Avatar.

I would have actually prefered things be left as a cliff hanger with Amon surviving and Kora having to quest to regain her bending. Maybe, after a couple seasons, if they only then decided to give her the energy bending bit, would I buy it as believable and not just a cheap 'pulled out of their hind ends' thing to avoid a cliff hanger. There are plenty of great series that have had epic season ending cliff hangers.

All through Aang's journey, there was one main arc through all the seasons: Ozen. With Amon dead, or so we have been lead to believe (did they ever actually state on screen, while standing over the body while it was on screen, he was truely and officially dead?), there is no such thread. I feel it would have been great story if Amon returned plotting revenge on Korra or something, no?

I'm in a rush at the moment, so that's all I've got for now.

[sushi.]

Here is my two cents.

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It took Aang 4 full seasons before he was able to Godmod and energy bend. It took Kora 12 episodes.

If you ask me, aside from the deus ex machina of it all, things seem like they might be starting on a 'Dragonball' like trend where heroes and villains just keep one upping each other in power. In other words, it could end up where the only opponent that would actually give Kora a challange, if things continue going at this rate, would be another fully trained Avatar.

I would have actually prefered things be left as a cliff hanger with Amon surviving and Kora having to quest to regain her bending. Maybe, after a couple seasons, if they only then decided to give her the energy bending bit, would I buy it as believable and not just a cheap 'pulled out of their hind ends' thing to avoid a cliff hanger. There are plenty of great series that have had epic season ending cliff hangers.

All through Aang's journey, there was one main arc through all the seasons: Ozen. With Amon dead, or so we have been lead to believe (did they ever actually state on screen, while standing over the body while it was on screen, he was truely and officially dead?), there is no such thread. I feel it would have been great story if Amon returned plotting revenge on Korra or something, no?

I'm in a rush at the moment, so that's all I've got for now.

Well, the avatar becomes more and more powerful every life, because a spirit joins. Like Aang could pwn at all elements in the avatar state. And...did you mean Ozai? (What is Ozen..?)

It would be silly to trick us with Amon secretly being alive. Then I hope Tarrlok is too, but did you see the huge explosion? If they didn't die right away, they probably collapsed and drowned, or maybe the healed themselves. I just hope season 2 will tie to the previous, or else there would be like two different series.

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Btw, there will be a new comic book called "The Search", the plot will involve Azula's mental hospitality and Zuko's mom. Again, it's written by Gene Yang, and the answer Ikki destroyed () in the LoK-pilot.

[jworks]

Here is my two cents.

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It took Aang 4 full seasons before he was able to Godmod and energy bend. It took Kora 12 episodes.

If you ask me, aside from the deus ex machina of it all, things seem like they might be starting on a 'Dragonball' like trend where heroes and villains just keep one upping each other in power. In other words, it could end up where the only opponent that would actually give Kora a challange, if things continue going at this rate, would be another fully trained Avatar.

I would have actually prefered things be left as a cliff hanger with Amon surviving and Kora having to quest to regain her bending. Maybe, after a couple seasons, if they only then decided to give her the energy bending bit, would I buy it as believable and not just a cheap 'pulled out of their hind ends' thing to avoid a cliff hanger. There are plenty of great series that have had epic season ending cliff hangers.

All through Aang's journey, there was one main arc through all the seasons: Ozen. With Amon dead, or so we have been lead to believe (did they ever actually state on screen, while standing over the body while it was on screen, he was truely and officially dead?), there is no such thread. I feel it would have been great story if Amon returned plotting revenge on Korra or something, no?

I'm in a rush at the moment, so that's all I've got for now.

Actually 3 seasons.

Keep in mind that The Legend of Korra was pitched as a mini-series from the start. In fact the second, 14 episode, season that Nick signed on for didn't come until later (meaning after Nick contracted the first season), probably after the writing for the first season was done. So the creators had to tell a full avatar story in 12 episodes.

Yeah one of the great things about ATLA was it took its time telling an epic, around the world, story. But they didn't have this luxury this time per the deal with Nick. Besides, I've read interviews where the creators talk about how they wanted to tell a different type of story this time and in a different way. I think they did great.

But yes, I would have liked to see some foreshadowing for next season! Something I could obsess over until book two starts!

[merryGOflava]

Here is my two cents.

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It took Aang 4 full seasons before he was able to Godmod and energy bend. It took Kora 12 episodes.

If you ask me, aside from the deus ex machina of it all, things seem like they might be starting on a 'Dragonball' like trend where heroes and villains just keep one upping each other in power. In other words, it could end up where the only opponent that would actually give Kora a challange, if things continue going at this rate, would be another fully trained Avatar.

I would have actually prefered things be left as a cliff hanger with Amon surviving and Kora having to quest to regain her bending. Maybe, after a couple seasons, if they only then decided to give her the energy bending bit, would I buy it as believable and not just a cheap 'pulled out of their hind ends' thing to avoid a cliff hanger. There are plenty of great series that have had epic season ending cliff hangers.

All through Aang's journey, there was one main arc through all the seasons: Ozen. With Amon dead, or so we have been lead to believe (did they ever actually state on screen, while standing over the body while it was on screen, he was truely and officially dead?), there is no such thread. I feel it would have been great story if Amon returned plotting revenge on Korra or something, no?

I'm in a rush at the moment, so that's all I've got for now.

agree...i would have liked a cliff-hanger better :o

[Konohakitten]

Actually 3 seasons.

Keep in mind that The Legend of Korra was pitched as a mini-series from the start. In fact the second, 14 episode, season that Nick signed on for didn't come until later (meaning after Nick contracted the first season), probably after the writing for the first season was done. So the creators had to tell a full avatar story in 12 episodes.

Yeah one of the great things about ATLA was it took its time telling an epic, around the world, story. But they didn't have this luxury this time per the deal with Nick. Besides, I've read interviews where the creators talk about how they wanted to tell a different type of story this time and in a different way. I think they did great.

But yes, I would have liked to see some foreshadowing for next season! Something I could obsess over until book two starts!

Yup I hear yeah. I dont think I would have liked LOK as much if it had followed ATLA exactly. Dont get me wrong I loved all of ALTLA especially the story telling. The six years that it ran were just breath taking. Then we have LOK with a whopping 14 episodes, but I loved every minute of it. I found myself caring for characters that only had a set amount of episodes to development, which to me personally takes great skill. As for the ending closing everything was smart or at least I think it was. They had no idea if Nick would want and another season so its better to end things then to leave lose ends.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Well, here's things to consider about Korra.

By the beginning of the series, she's already had some knowledge of the other 3 bending arts and she was discovered to be Avatar early in life. With the spread of information that follows after the unification of all nations, it's easy to assume there are information available on Earthbending, Waterbending, and Firebending. It's possible that, before the White Lotus arrived in Korra's home, her parents may have obtained some of these instructions somehow.

Then, Korra was pretty much trained in her entire life in the bending arts, along with instruction on the spiritual side of things. Despite not achieving it until later, that instruction on the spiritual side most likely helped along. Korra was just far too impulsive and aggressive to connect to the Spirit World. As an Avatar, she already possess an innate advantage when concerned with spiritual matters and the bending arts, she just needed the right push.

Aang was the opposite, he was powerful spiritually and was quite proficient at Airbending at an early age. However, he was found to be Avatar much later in life AND froze for about 100 years. He resurfaced at a time of war, when the Fire Nation suppressed the other Bending Arts, so it was difficult for Aang to learn the other 3 bending arts with a war going on.

So, in other words, Korra somewhat had it easy. Didn't stop the crew to write some great character development for Korra, though.

[Konohakitten]

Well, here's things to consider about Korra.

By the beginning of the series, she's already had some knowledge of the other 3 bending arts and she was discovered to be Avatar early in life. With the spread of information that follows after the unification of all nations, it's easy to assume there are information available on Earthbending, Waterbending, and Firebending. It's possible that, before the White Lotus arrived in Korra's home, her parents may have obtained some of these instructions somehow.

Then, Korra was pretty much trained in her entire life in the bending arts, along with instruction on the spiritual side of things. Despite not achieving it until later, that instruction on the spiritual side most likely helped along. Korra was just far too impulsive and aggressive to connect to the Spirit World. As an Avatar, she already possess an innate advantage when concerned with spiritual matters and the bending arts, she just needed the right push.

Aang was the opposite, he was powerful spiritually and was quite proficient at Airbending at an early age. However, he was found to be Avatar much later in life AND froze for about 100 years. He resurfaced at a time of war, when the Fire Nation suppressed the other Bending Arts, so it was difficult for Aang to learn the other 3 bending arts with a war going on.

So, in other words, Korra somewhat had it easy. Didn't stop the crew to write some great character development for Korra, though.

I couldn't agree more, Korra's circumstances were so different from Aang's. Not only did the White Lotus discover her at such a young age, but she already knew three of the four elements. So you're right she was trained from then on and she always knew she was the avatar. Aang didnt find out till he was 12 which is why he ran away then we go and skip 100 years. So yes Korra did have more of the upper hand since she was found at a young age and basically she born in a time of peace. Plus like someone added before new Avatars are stronger then the their past lives. I think focusing on her spiritual side will be the center of season 2 She just cant have one encounter with Aang and then all of a sudden be a spiritual guru.

Edited by Konohakitten, 01 July 2012 - 05:36 PM.