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[Miss Soupy]

He could easily go either way, but what I'm hoping to see happen is have Naruto and Sakura talk right before his final confrontation with Sasuke, and this conversation will be the set up for the stuff that happens after the fight with Sasuke.

I'd love for Naruto to think of what Itachi told him about Minato succeeding because he had Kushina by his side to support him, and apply it to Sakura being by his side.

Yeah, I think this would be great development if Kishi did it this way. My opinion at this point is that the love subplot wont be completely resolved until after Sasuke is redeemed, but that there is a good chance of more hints being thrown in before that moment. I'd love it if Naruto and Sakura talked beforehand.

I've seen this argument around everywhere, so please, someone point out to me where Naruto is supposedly discarding, demeaning, or lessening the importance of the POAL, because I'm just not seeing it at all.

To me, it made the POAL less important to the story as a whole than I had originally interpreted. No longer is Sasuke being saved truly tied in with it. It is now entirely an action of love towards Sakura. Which is fine, it stands as the most romantic part of the story. He was giving up his chance with her, essentially, because of his selfless love. However, I always considered it might have given him an extra incentive or push to fight harder. He did reflect on Sakura during the VotE fight. I don't think now you can say he is facing Sasuke with Sakura's feelings in mind since she basically told him not to.

That's why I feel Kishi demeaned it somewhat, and why I don't necessarily see its place in the story as big as it was. Though, it is true Naruto himself did not say anything that indicated his feelings had changed. I'm looking more at the way Kishi handled bringing it back into the story like he did. And, from what Sakura understood of the promise, I'm glad she wanted to remove that burden (even though she did not fully understand the true point of his words).

All in all, I don't feel it a threat if the POAL is lessened in any way when it comes to Sasuke. The main point was always that it showed how selfless Naruto's love is for her. As long as Sakura reflects on that point, I don't think it matters if the POAL is put to rest. And also, like people have said, it might pave the way for equally adamant promises between them rather than just a one-sided one. The POAL is nice and all for the development at the time, but I'd rather them start to be honest with one another so they didn't have to make these sacrifices of love.

[Phantom_999]

Yeah, I think this would be great development if Kishi did it this way. My opinion at this point is that the love subplot wont be completely resolved until after Sasuke is redeemed, but that there is a good chance of more hints being thrown in before that moment. I'd love it if Naruto and Sakura talked beforehand.


To me, it made the POAL less important to the story as a whole than I had originally interpreted. No longer is Sasuke being saved truly tied in with it. It is now entirely an action of love towards Sakura. Which is fine, it stands as the most romantic part of the story. He was giving up his chance with her, essentially, because of his selfless love. However, I always considered it might have given him an extra incentive or push to fight harder. He did reflect on Sakura during the VotE fight. I don't think now you can say he is facing Sasuke with Sakura's feelings in mind since she basically told him not to.

That's why I feel Kishi demeaned it somewhat, and why I don't necessarily see its place in the story as big as it was. Though, it is true Naruto himself did not say anything that indicated his feelings had changed. I'm looking more at the way Kishi handled bringing it back into the story like he did. And, from what Sakura understood of the promise, I'm glad she wanted to remove that burden (even though she did not fully understand the true point of his words).

All in all, I don't feel it a threat if the POAL is lessened in any way when it comes to Sasuke. The main point was always that it showed how selfless Naruto's love is for her. As long as Sakura reflects on that point, I don't think it matters if the POAL is put to rest. And also, like people have said, it might pave the way for equally adamant promises between them rather than just a one-sided one. The POAL is nice and all for the development at the time, but I'd rather them start to be honest with one another so they didn't have to make these sacrifices of love.

Yeah I'd like it if they talked before fighting Sasuke. As for the POAL It was only reduced because Naruto has no more intention of CHASING after Sasuke he will still try to save him from hatred but He's not bothering with trying to convince Sasuke to come back anymore.

[Paptala]

To me, it made the POAL less important to the story as a whole than I had originally interpreted. No longer is Sasuke being saved truly tied in with it. It is now entirely an action of love towards Sakura. Which is fine, it stands as the most romantic part of the story. He was giving up his chance with her, essentially, because of his selfless love. However, I always considered it might have given him an extra incentive or push to fight harder. He did reflect on Sakura during the VotE fight. I don't think now you can say he is facing Sasuke with Sakura's feelings in mind since she basically told him not to.

That's why I feel Kishi demeaned it somewhat, and why I don't necessarily see its place in the story as big as it was. Though, it is true Naruto himself did not say anything that indicated his feelings had changed. I'm looking more at the way Kishi handled bringing it back into the story like he did.

Okay, I see. I never really looked at it that way, because I always took it from the beginning that the POAL really had nothing to do with his own desire to bring back Sasuke, and 470 just confirmed it for me expressly. But I can see a bit better now where you, and others who have said the same, are coming from.

And, from what Sakura understood of the promise, I'm glad she wanted to remove that burden (even though she did not fully understand the true point of his words).

I'm glad she did as well. I understood where both Naruto and Sakura were coming from in their reactions to the confession, what with Sakura doing her best to try and ease Naruto's burdens and protect him, and Naruto trying to do his best to respect Sakura's feelings as he understood them and also trying to protect Sasuke. I would imagine that Sakura's frustration came out of the fact that Naruto was stubbornly blocking her attempts to try and help him, and Naruto's frustration came out from both hearing something that he'd always wanted to hear, yet not being able to believe it and the last person he thought would try and get him to give up on Sasuke doing so (not that she didn't have good reasons for trying to do so of course).

All in all, I don't feel it a threat if the POAL is lessened in any way when it comes to Sasuke. The main point was always that it showed how selfless Naruto's love is for her. As long as Sakura reflects on that point, I don't think it matters if the POAL is put to rest. And also, like people have said, it might pave the way for equally adamant promises between them rather than just a one-sided one. The POAL is nice and all for the development at the time, but I'd rather them start to be honest with one another so they didn't have to make these sacrifices of love.

Exactly; well said.

Edited by Paptala, 10 September 2011 - 10:35 PM.

[TerrorKing]

I don't know about you guys, but I am personally glad that the POAL is now out of the way. All it did was bog down Naruto and Sakura's relationship. I also hope that now they might finally confront eachother without anything else getting in the way. I am, however, unsure just how many pages or chapters Kishi might actually dedicate to this. I could actually see him spending at least 2 or 3 chapters on it. I know that this is a shounen and that romance is only a small bonus, but if Kishi is truly being serious about NS, then one panel of "Hey Naruto I love you. Oh cool, I love you too Sakura-chan.", just isn't going to cut it. I also hope that the romance will be resolved before the final battle, because that way it won't be coloured by whatever the outcome of the battle might be. Who knows, with all this fighting that's been going on recently, we might get a small break from the war. You know, give each party some time to recover before the final push. Maybe then Naruto and Sakura will finally settle down and actually talk to eachother for the first time in god knows how long. As for Hinata, I still believe that her confession will be resolved at some point. I used to not really see the point in having Naruto "reject" her off panel, only for it to then be brought up later. After all, that was a pretty big part of her development as a character. Then again, Sai and Naruto's flashback was also pretty sudden. I certaintly didn't see that one coming. Also, the reason why Kishi would consiously leave out things like Naruto potentially rejecting Hinata untill they are relevant to what is currently happening is of course that it is a perfect way for him to keep the pairing wars going and thus to keep a large portion of the fandom interested.

Edited by TerrorKing, 11 September 2011 - 12:36 AM.

[Super Boom]

Naruto never discarded the promise or said that it didn't mean anything to him anymore or the like. As Red Delicious said, the POAL is separate from his desire to save Sasuke. The POAL had everything to do with his feelings for Sakura, and acknowledging Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. He was already going to save Sasuke before that, so we already knew saving Sasuke didn't hinge on the promise.

It is Naruto's feelings for Sakura that revolve around the promise, not his feelings for Sasuke. And all Naruto essentially said was that regardless of the promise, he'd still want to save Sasuke.

To me, it made the POAL less important to the story as a whole than I had originally interpreted. No longer is Sasuke being saved truly tied in with it. It is now entirely an action of love towards Sakura.

Thanks for pointing that out (both of you), that makes a little more sense. I guess I sort of came to the assumption that the POAL changed, and basically went beyond saving Sasuke, but thinking back on it, I guess it does seem like the scene itself was purely about Naruto and Sakura from the beginning. He was planning on saving Sasuke before he made the promise, so Naruto's feelings were the centerpoint of that promise itself. It certainly fits with what happened in the Iron Country Arc too. The 'promise' was important enough to Naruto that he couldn't confess his feelings to Sakura, but when it came to Sasuke, the promise didn't really change anything. That seems to support the idea that the POAL is much more rooted in the romantic aspect of the plot, and not necessarily in bringing Sasuke back.

I don't know about you guys, but I am personally glad that the POAL is now out of the way. All it did was bog down Naruto and Sakura's relationship. I also hope that now they might finally confront eachother without anything else getting in the way.

I certainly hope so too. I think, now that Sakura doesn't have that guilt hanging over her shoulders, and that she knows about Naruto's feelings, it'll pave the way for them to finally discuss everything, whether for good or bad. I think Sakura could really benefit from that talk as well.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 11 September 2011 - 05:33 AM.

[Phantom_999]

YUP so it would make sense then that Sakura asks to make a new promise to be safe and stay alive, right? because that last one was just a saddle he was burdened with

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 September 2011 - 02:01 PM.

[bthug]

Sup peeps, its been a while since i've been here, so any news on the narusaku front?

[Anguyen92]

Sup peeps, its been a while since i've been here, so any news on the narusaku front?

Well, as usual, no, and at this point, I really don't have an estimate on when that moment would come. But when it happens, it will be good and tasteful, and we would all be satisfied. It could come at any moment. It could be five chapters or it could be 20 chapters. I have no idea.

[Fenris]

Who remembers this?

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Sakura: You must have drempt a perverted dream when you were passed out.
Naruto: I didn’t have any dream like that!
Naruto: It was more like a sweeter dream than that.
Sakura: Ah, so it was a perverted dream after all then!
Naruto: Hey, believe me, it was a sweet dream.
Sakura: You’re too good to be true!
Naruto: Its the truth Sakura-chan!

[Phantom_999]

Me thinks she was jealous Naruto was not dreaming of her!

[merryGOflava]

Me thinks she was jealous Naruto was not dreaming of her!

shes always gets like that~

[Anguyen92]

You know, before all this war began and all of that crap, it kinda puts things in perspective and how we just yearn for those days again of seeing Naruto and Sakura and some other characters just eat ramen and all of that good stuff. What happened man? How did it get to this point?

Edited by Anguyen92, 13 September 2011 - 04:55 AM.

[redkunai66]

plot happened?
but yeah i miss em too :/

[rastaman]

I got a serious question. How do I get lots of views on youtube If I try the vegeta dance? I still have to practice the split but the
flic-flac shouldn't be a major problem.
That's definitely what I'm gonna do if NS does come true

[Phantom_999]

You know, before all this war began and all of that crap, it kinda puts things in perspective and how we just yearn for those days again of seeing Naruto and Sakura and some other characters just eat ramen and all of that good stuff. What happened man? How did it get to this point?

I know... I miss those days, too. I like that we see more action now but I still get nostalgic.

Well you know you never really see happy, warm times in war because it's turmoil and chaos. unless you mean WHY Kishi made the war in the first place? Then he could either be concluding the manga or be setting the stage for new plots in the story

[Anguyen92]

^^ Hmmmm, setting the stage for new plots, like what? I just wish that things were the way they were, before the war began. Where Naruto, Sakura, etc, were just dealing with regular missions and contemplating their own romantic feelings. But I guess once the war is all said and done, Kishi might not go back to that then. Ehhhh, oh well.

Edited by Anguyen92, 13 September 2011 - 10:16 PM.

[Phantom_999]

can't say but we can't pretend he WON'T pull something new out of the hat if he wanted

[redkunai66]

can't say but we can't pretend he WON'T pull something new out of the hat if he wanted

but why do you think he still has something to pull though? i mean besides the mandara final confrontation that has to occur- i can only think of kabuto as a baddie that naruto has to take down. unless naruto will go dbz on us and make another bad guy for the main cast to defeat- i really don't think we need to stretch the series like that.

as much as i liked the fluff and everyday interactions- we're reading a shounen- not shoujo or josei or slice of life :/

Edited by redkunai66, 14 September 2011 - 01:12 AM.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

can't say but we can't pretend he WON'T pull something new out of the hat if he wanted

Its likey the war arc is the end so dont get your hopes up. Besides I dont really want Naruto to drag out.

[Fenris]

I'm still not caught up in the chapters. Is the war going on yet? >.<

Bleh. As long as Sakura doesn't end up with Sasuke and Hinata does't end up with Naruto and there's some confession between NaruSaku, I don't care how it ends.